Since everyone other than the complete wackos already knew it was shot down by a Russian missile, this isn't really news. The only real question is who shot it down and why (including, why was it flying over a war zone where both sides had Russian surface-to-air missiles?).
Around the world, tech company executives rub their hands in glee at the thought of all the profits coming there way after the US government destroy any remaining trust in the US industry.
The problem is that Android issues aren't 'routinely taken care of'. Most Android devices will never see a fix for this, because manufacturers have abandoned them and carriers want you to upgrade to a new phone.
I almost wonder whether Google are encouraging people to publicize Android vulnerabilities so they can say 'look, this isn't working, we need to be able to push updates to phones ourselves'. They have to do that if Android has any future.
The entertainment industry has a long history of ignoring their customers and trying to dictate what is popular.
That's what happens in industries with government-granted monopolies. What are their customers going to do? Go to one of their competitors when they want to watch Game Of Downton Abbey? Oops, copyright, you lose.
Is it any different then say apt-get using unsecured http or ftp connections?
Yes. Apt doesn't run executables, it extracts.deb files that are signed by the distro key. The worst you could do would be to give the machine a different.deb file to the one it requested, which is potentially problematic (e.g. send an old version that has known security holes), but nowhere near as risky.
This attack will apparently run any Microsoft-signed executable with any command-line arguments. That's just hilarious.
I'm especially pissed that they are allowed to autoplay on mobile devices. Your bandwidth means nothing to these vultures.
Can't speak for Apple, but Android is just a mobile ad-delivery platform.
I was quite shocked when I browsed Slashdot a few days ago on an Android tablet. Far more of the screen space was taken up with ads than stories. No wonder it's lost so many posters over the last few years as mobile usage has grown.
Oh, wait. That's how it used to be in the "good old days" of web browsing. Before the advertisers got greedy and evil. Since they had their chance to play nicely and chose not to do so, why should I care about their mythical lost revenue? Ad blocking FTW!
In the 'good old days' of web browsing... there were no ads. And you could actually find information you wanted, because the web wasn't flooded with a bazillion sites that exist solely to capture search queries and feed you ads.
If there was a big market for cars that can only drive 100 miles, auto manufacturers would be reducing the size of their gas tanks to reduce weight and gain 0.25mpg.
Since they're not doing that, clearly it's not a market big enough to care about.
Some of the most corrupt countries in the world are without any regulation or control, eg. right-wing laissez faire. Fx Somalia with almost non-existent central government. Or a number of US supported South-American countries.
Yeah, you're right. None of those countries have governments, do they?
Go back to Fluffy Lefty Fantasy World. You'll be happier there.
My point is that there are potential criminal penalties enforced by the state if the driver of the cab isn't the licensee.
So what?
The British government thinks it's quite OK for convicted rapists to become cab drivers, so why would you care whether the driver is the one they licensed?
Citation needed. Business is chock full of corruption. Especially in markets that lack regulation and control.
Absent 'regulation and control' to keep competitors out of the market, corrupt business usually goes out of business.
'Regulation and control' is one of the greatest sources of business corruption, as a business can buy the regulators and use them to keep competitors out. But, hey, it probably works perfectly in Left-Wing Fantasy Land.
So... what are we going to do? Say good bye to mobility? For if we don't have the means to produce electricity to power cars, we sure don't have the oil to do so, considering that you can produce electricity out of oil PLUS a lot of other means, too...
No, you can't produce electricity from oil, because GLOBAL WARMING!
In case you hadn't noticed, Obama is pushing a plan to significant reduce electricity production while dramatically increasing the price. Unless you get away from the GLOBAL WARMING! claptrap, you're not going to be increasing electricity production any time soon.
It doesn't matter if your OS doesn't spy on you at that point. Linux doesn't run the vast majority of commercial apps so that makes it a non-starter, unless your needs are so limited that even Android would do.
The vast majority of people use their computer for web-browsing and simple word processing, and have no need for those 'commercial apps' that Linux lacks.
All other operating systems don't require you to become an IT pro to setup and use, and they're far more useful because of what actually runs on them. So shove your elitism where the sun don't shine.
Are you seriously suggesting that Joe Clueless could install and setup Windows? From a Windows retail disk? Finding all the drivers he needs to update and installing them?
Where I work, we now just have a VM for each project, with whatever OS it runs on, and use X-forwarding to run the apps on the local desktop, whatever it may be.
Oh, except I forgot, the hipsters are going to kill X-forwarding, too.
It's funny how/. folks still don't get it. Consumers/users don't know anything about their PCs or devices, and they don't care.
They care when it starts displaying a slideshow of their pr0n stash in the Start Menu.
The real problem is that operating systems pretty much reached the 'all done' point ten years ago, when they did everything that anyone could reasonably want them to do. Everything since has just been trying to find new things they could add to justify pushing a new version. Writing 'The Cloud' services is much more exciting for hipsters than fixing bugs.
I move desktop, my documents, and a few other folders to the D: drive on Windows and get most of the same functionality.
Aside from having to reinstall all your apps after you reinstall the OS, because they stuffed all the important config information in the registry, which you just wiped.
And that's assuming you already know the magic install commands to actually get all your user files onto d: instead of c:.
As much as many here who are libertarian do you think it is time for laws to prohibit this? The free market appearently is too small to care about this.
You don't need laws. You just need to eliminate software copyright, so there's actually a free market in software.
If anyone could hack the spyware out of Windows and sell their own version, this wouldn't be happening.
Problem is, the hipsters are trying to push all this crap into Linux, too.
Pretty soon, I'm sure systemd will be sending all your logs to 'the cloud' because it lets them do some hipster shit that no user actually cares about.
No, it was a decent idea, it was just a weak novel; I didn't even get through the free preview ebook from Amazon. I've read better fan fiction free on the web.
I'd hardly call it the worst novel of the last 20 years, but giving it a Hugo was a better joke than anything I read in the ebook.
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Since everyone other than the complete wackos already knew it was shot down by a Russian missile, this isn't really news. The only real question is who shot it down and why (including, why was it flying over a war zone where both sides had Russian surface-to-air missiles?).
TFA makes no mention of what happens if you stop supplying the energy required to confine the plasma. This could be a weak spot in the system.
It explodes in a 40MT blast. Didn't you see Aliens?
But how are you going to know whether your spouse is a Soviet agent if you don't spy on them?
You realize that ABS cuts the brakes, right? So, if you can take over the ABS controller, you can stop the car from braking?
There's no way in hell a device attached to the bus connector under the steering wheel should be allowed to do such a thing.
Around the world, tech company executives rub their hands in glee at the thought of all the profits coming there way after the US government destroy any remaining trust in the US industry.
The problem is that Android issues aren't 'routinely taken care of'. Most Android devices will never see a fix for this, because manufacturers have abandoned them and carriers want you to upgrade to a new phone.
I almost wonder whether Google are encouraging people to publicize Android vulnerabilities so they can say 'look, this isn't working, we need to be able to push updates to phones ourselves'. They have to do that if Android has any future.
The entertainment industry has a long history of ignoring their customers and trying to dictate what is popular.
That's what happens in industries with government-granted monopolies. What are their customers going to do? Go to one of their competitors when they want to watch Game Of Downton Abbey? Oops, copyright, you lose.
the scripts are in the deb so the signature also prevent that
Yes, exactly.
This hole is a consequence of using random executables as installers, rather than a special installer file type.
Is it any different then say apt-get using unsecured http or ftp connections?
Yes. Apt doesn't run executables, it extracts .deb files that are signed by the distro key. The worst you could do would be to give the machine a different .deb file to the one it requested, which is potentially problematic (e.g. send an old version that has known security holes), but nowhere near as risky.
This attack will apparently run any Microsoft-signed executable with any command-line arguments. That's just hilarious.
I'm especially pissed that they are allowed to autoplay on mobile devices. Your bandwidth means nothing to these vultures.
Can't speak for Apple, but Android is just a mobile ad-delivery platform.
I was quite shocked when I browsed Slashdot a few days ago on an Android tablet. Far more of the screen space was taken up with ads than stories. No wonder it's lost so many posters over the last few years as mobile usage has grown.
Oh, wait. That's how it used to be in the "good old days" of web browsing. Before the advertisers got greedy and evil. Since they had their chance to play nicely and chose not to do so, why should I care about their mythical lost revenue? Ad blocking FTW!
In the 'good old days' of web browsing... there were no ads. And you could actually find information you wanted, because the web wasn't flooded with a bazillion sites that exist solely to capture search queries and feed you ads.
If there was a big market for cars that can only drive 100 miles, auto manufacturers would be reducing the size of their gas tanks to reduce weight and gain 0.25mpg.
Since they're not doing that, clearly it's not a market big enough to care about.
Some of the most corrupt countries in the world are without any regulation or control, eg. right-wing laissez faire. Fx Somalia with almost non-existent central government. Or a number of US supported South-American countries.
Yeah, you're right. None of those countries have governments, do they?
Go back to Fluffy Lefty Fantasy World. You'll be happier there.
My point is that there are potential criminal penalties enforced by the state if the driver of the cab isn't the licensee.
So what?
The British government thinks it's quite OK for convicted rapists to become cab drivers, so why would you care whether the driver is the one they licensed?
Citation needed. Business is chock full of corruption. Especially in markets that lack regulation and control.
Absent 'regulation and control' to keep competitors out of the market, corrupt business usually goes out of business.
'Regulation and control' is one of the greatest sources of business corruption, as a business can buy the regulators and use them to keep competitors out. But, hey, it probably works perfectly in Left-Wing Fantasy Land.
So... what are we going to do? Say good bye to mobility? For if we don't have the means to produce electricity to power cars, we sure don't have the oil to do so, considering that you can produce electricity out of oil PLUS a lot of other means, too...
No, you can't produce electricity from oil, because GLOBAL WARMING!
In case you hadn't noticed, Obama is pushing a plan to significant reduce electricity production while dramatically increasing the price. Unless you get away from the GLOBAL WARMING! claptrap, you're not going to be increasing electricity production any time soon.
It doesn't matter if your OS doesn't spy on you at that point. Linux doesn't run the vast majority of commercial apps so that makes it a non-starter, unless your needs are so limited that even Android would do.
The vast majority of people use their computer for web-browsing and simple word processing, and have no need for those 'commercial apps' that Linux lacks.
All other operating systems don't require you to become an IT pro to setup and use, and they're far more useful because of what actually runs on them. So shove your elitism where the sun don't shine.
Are you seriously suggesting that Joe Clueless could install and setup Windows? From a Windows retail disk? Finding all the drivers he needs to update and installing them?
Good one.
Where I work, we now just have a VM for each project, with whatever OS it runs on, and use X-forwarding to run the apps on the local desktop, whatever it may be.
Oh, except I forgot, the hipsters are going to kill X-forwarding, too.
I think what I meant was should government get involved forcing companies to stop it.
Again, the reason companies can get away with this is because the government gives them a monopoly on the distribution of their software.
And why would a government want companies to remove spyware that lets their spies read your stuff?
It is perfectly reasonable to refuse Windows users access to your wi-fi. Do so, and let them know why.
Good point. I hadn't even thought of third parties coming to my house and sending my wi-fi password to Microsoft.
Yes, I won't be letting them connect in future.
It's funny how /. folks still don't get it. Consumers/users don't know anything about their PCs or devices, and they don't care.
They care when it starts displaying a slideshow of their pr0n stash in the Start Menu.
The real problem is that operating systems pretty much reached the 'all done' point ten years ago, when they did everything that anyone could reasonably want them to do. Everything since has just been trying to find new things they could add to justify pushing a new version. Writing 'The Cloud' services is much more exciting for hipsters than fixing bugs.
I move desktop, my documents, and a few other folders to the D: drive on Windows and get most of the same functionality.
Aside from having to reinstall all your apps after you reinstall the OS, because they stuffed all the important config information in the registry, which you just wiped.
And that's assuming you already know the magic install commands to actually get all your user files onto d: instead of c:.
As much as many here who are libertarian do you think it is time for laws to prohibit this? The free market appearently is too small to care about this.
You don't need laws. You just need to eliminate software copyright, so there's actually a free market in software.
If anyone could hack the spyware out of Windows and sell their own version, this wouldn't be happening.
Problem is, the hipsters are trying to push all this crap into Linux, too.
Pretty soon, I'm sure systemd will be sending all your logs to 'the cloud' because it lets them do some hipster shit that no user actually cares about.
No, it was a decent idea, it was just a weak novel; I didn't even get through the free preview ebook from Amazon. I've read better fan fiction free on the web.
I'd hardly call it the worst novel of the last 20 years, but giving it a Hugo was a better joke than anything I read in the ebook.