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Study: Ad Blocker Use Jumps 41 Percent

Mickeycaskill writes: A report from Adobe and anti-ad blocking startup PageFair says the number of ad block users worldwide has increased by 41 percent in the past 12 months to 198 million monthly active users. The study suggests the growing popularity of ad blocking software is set to cost online publishers $21.8 billion in 2015 and could reach $41.4 billion by 2016. "About 45 million of them are in the United States, with almost 15 percent of people in states like New York and California relying on these services. The figures are even higher in Europe, where 77 million people use versions of the software. In Poland, more than a third of people regularly block online ads."

528 comments

  1. And they didn't by sys64764 · · Score: 3, Funny

    even put an ad up!

    1. Re:And they didn't by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If something is good enough for consumers it will be known and used!

      Many web sites complains about ad blocking today, but they have to be aware that they caused the need for adblockers themselves. Too many ads like "Your PC have a problem" hopping like it has Parkinson on the screen is stressful and false. Static ads are actually less of a problem.

      Ads with sound and pop-ups covering the whole darn screen are a sure call for adblocker to be installed.

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    2. Re:And they didn't by kilfarsnar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If something is good enough for consumers it will be known and used!

      Many web sites complains about ad blocking today, but they have to be aware that they caused the need for adblockers themselves. Too many ads like "Your PC have a problem" hopping like it has Parkinson on the screen is stressful and false. Static ads are actually less of a problem.

      Ads with sound and pop-ups covering the whole darn screen are a sure call for adblocker to be installed.

      This is certainly correct. I would also add that sites load so much faster when using an ad blocker.

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    3. Re:And they didn't by danbert8 · · Score: 2

      And dear baby jeebus what the hell is up with the new trend of popups within the window? Did they learn nothing from the late 90s? Nobody fucking wants your popup ads.

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    4. Re:And they didn't by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah. Advertising agencies only have themselves to blame for the fact that most people hate ads. It started with intrusive and annoying TV ads. They deem it necessary to raise the volume by 50% when the ads come up? They deem it necessary to drive a nail into your head by inserting an add when you least expect it in the middle of a scene? And they deem it necessary to fill ads with lies and ridiculous false promises of beauty, health and popularity?

      Well fuck them. Now I fucking hate ads and it's all their fault because they annoyed the living shit out of me with their fucking bullshit ads and the increasingly aggravating way they presented them to me. Advertising agencies have trained me to abhor ads.

      And the practice has continued on the Internet. Noisy, invasive, insecure and fucking annoying ads almost everywhere. I will do all I can to stop them from fucking with my head.

    5. Re:And they didn't by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      I just saw that today at work (ad blocker not installed) when looking at a comparison of Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 on TechSpot. There I am reading the article and BAM! up pops an ad pointing to a keyword in the sentence.

      I believe each page had three ads which I closed within 2 seconds of seeing.

      Reminds me of the Futurama episode, Bicyclops Built for Two, where they go online and are bombarded by all the virtual ads.

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    6. Re:And they didn't by nblender · · Score: 1

      There's a specific forum that I try not to use but occasionally has stuff I need to look at... It's an ad-laden disaster including the keyword popups so you need to keep your mouse pointer comfortably off screen while you scroll or else you get popups as you're scrolling... If I visit the site with an ad-blocker, the site will pretty much not load.. I'm not sure what's happening (I'm a kernel/embedded guy, I don't pay attention to webby stuff) but I'm wondering if some javascript is waiting for a specific cookie being dropped by one or more of the ads before it will load the rest of the site ... If I don't enable JS, I don't get anything. If I enable JS but use adblock+, the site just seems to block...

    7. Re:And they didn't by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      I got a "like us on facebook" pop-in the other day, two seconds after visiting a page. As if I'm really going to "like" an article that I haven't even been able to read yet -- in that case I hadn't even had time to find the headline amid all the other junk! I said screw that and left without even bothering to read the article. Their loss.

    8. Re:And they didn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      For an eye-opening experience, try a mozilla browser with noscript and request policy extensions, and no other ad-blocker. Start with default-deny rules and see how many third-party scripts and third-part site requests are being made from sites you visit.

      Noscript lets you enable scripts from specific origin sites, but request policy controls which third-party requests are allowed from each site. Together, you can see just how much absurd ad and user-tracking crap is being fetched from each site. With patience, you can figure out which subset is needed for a site to function, while leaving all others disabled. Often, busy sites divide themselves into static content, CDN for icons and images, separate site for user-generated content like uploaded images or even comments, separate ad networks, separate analytics/tracking vendors, etc.

    9. Re:And they didn't by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      I'm the same way about the popups. If you have a popup ad that manages to get around my adblocker, well obviously your content isn't compelling enough to keep people on your site because you have to use hated means to get clicks...

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    10. Re:And they didn't by JustSomeProgrammer · · Score: 1

      Most of your post I find insightful other than the first line... How does something become known and used just because it is a good product? There are many examples of good products that didn't make it.

    11. Re:And they didn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have said for a few years now that (Internet) advertisers are self defeating. The harder that they try to get people's attention, the more annoying and obnoxious the ads become. At some point, people get frustrated with the annoying, obnoxious, headache-inducing ads, and start blocking the ads.

      Marketing (advertising) has become evil! The purpose is no longer to let you know that a product exists, but to do whatever is necessary to sell you the product. This includes out and out lying and many sneaky tactics that are just as bad.

      If you have cable TV or are not blocking ads while on the Internet, think about this for a moment: How many things do you (and your children, or significant other if any) own that you really thought you just had to have, but are rarely used any more, if at all. Things that you thought would be really neat or cool to have, but don't seem so neat or cool any more? If you have more than a few items that fit this description, you are a victim of marketing!

      Many people, especially parents, find that when they switch from cable TV to an ad-free streaming video service like Netflix, suddenly they have more money available. Why? They (and their kids) are not being bombarded with hundreds of ads a day, each proclaiming that what they are pushing in your face is the latest hot thing that everyone just has to have.

      How many parents remember Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle cereal? How many parents got driven nuts until they bought it only to find out that the kids wouldn't eat it because it tasted like crap? But the kids had wanted it so bad because they really liked the movie? The cereal was cheaply made crap, only put out so that someone could make some extra quick bucks on the tails of a popular kids movie.

      In spite of all of the BS put out by advertisers, blocking ads is NOT evil, it is NOT wrong, and it is NOT immoral! Blocking ads is a self defensive measure, saving people time, money, and maybe even their sanity!!

    12. Re:And they didn't by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      If something is good enough for consumers it will be known and used!

      Many web sites complains about ad blocking today, but they have to be aware that they caused the need for adblockers themselves. Too many ads like "Your PC have a problem" hopping like it has Parkinson on the screen is stressful and false. Static ads are actually less of a problem.

      Ads with sound and pop-ups covering the whole darn screen are a sure call for adblocker to be installed.

      yeah the fake AV malware epidemic that started around 2009 sorta ruined things

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    13. Re:And they didn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not just the way the ads themselves behave. After avoiding advertising for the past 10 years, whenever I'm forced to listen to them like at a restaurant or a waiting room, it's terrible the way their pitches are presented, with the forcefully glib voice, the same stock cliche phrases used in every ad, and most especially the rampant deceit. They are all out to get your money and aside from some of them trying to stay inside the law, none of them care a whit about doing whatever it takes to trick you into handing it over. They're obnoxious because they're unoriginal, and they're disturbing because they're all misleading and deceitful. How people tolerate that crap at all is beyond me, but I'm pretty sure it's the boiled frog syndrome in effect.

    14. Re:And they didn't by mjwx · · Score: 2

      Yeah. Advertising agencies only have themselves to blame for the fact that most people hate ads. It started with intrusive and annoying TV ads. They deem it necessary to raise the volume by 50% when the ads come up? They deem it necessary to drive a nail into your head by inserting an add when you least expect it in the middle of a scene? And they deem it necessary to fill ads with lies and ridiculous false promises of beauty, health and popularity?

      Just an FYI but they dont increase volume for ads, that would be actually illegal and easy to prove. TV stations have been required to transmit advertisements and content at the same volume for years (decades in my country). However what they do is change the audio compression to make them sound louder, ads use a smaller dynamic range than the content so quieter sounds are not recorded, this makes it sound louder. You get the same thing with music these days (this means we've lost fidelity, but you dont need fidelity for Rap and Electronic music as you dont have the same dynamic range as a guitar, let alone a piano).

      The rest of your comment, spot on. Advertisers are the scum of the earth.

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    15. Re: And they didn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's really telling how they only pay for clicks, but the ad can do its thing wether it's clicked on or not.

    16. Re:And they didn't by Reapy · · Score: 1

      It's funny because when an advertisement does it's job right and I notice it, I file it away as explicitly to avoiding the brand when making an impulse buy in the store. I mean I get the point, when I look at the rack, I am familiar with the brand, and pick it over the competitor. Except your stupid advertisements have made me do the opposite, avoidance!

      I think advertisements can be done well, subtle and non intrusive, fusing their product to a good image. I don't know about all their methods but say red bull's take on advertising is novel and actually creates things of interest that they plaster their logo on,

      I'll never understand why people think the bullhorn and siren methods work... unless they do, maybe they do? If so, that is probably our fault.

    17. Re:And they didn't by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 1

      Indeed. It didn't have to be this way. There is nothing inherently wrong with advertising, but for some reason most ad makers seem to think it's a good idea to be as annoying as possible. Then they are surprised that people block their ads.

      There are some cases of ads done right. For example ads on Google search results or in Gmail. Just some text, a link, and it is even marked as an advertisment. Some of these are even informative instead of sensationalist. Perfect.

      As you say, I also make a point of avoiding products or brands from ads that were extremely annoying to me.

  2. Good! by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Informative

    In this day and age of malware being delivered even by supposedly reputable third-party providers, using an ad blocker is just plain responsible browsing. I'm sorry that web site owners are out some revenue for it, but if you want to make money off of me, you're going to figure out some way to do it other than leaving myself open to attack from malicious users.

    There are a handful of web sites that I actually support financially specifically for this reason.

    1. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are speaking the truth there brother. After installing Adblock Plus on our 50+ work computers two years ago, the number of malicious objects dropped to zero, from several dozen a year. Add in the bandwidth savings as well, and it's a pure win.

    2. Re:Good! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I agree with your sentiment, but I'd like to point out the difficulty that webmasters face. They have two choice:

      1. Go with a major, reputable ad service like Google and be easily and effortlessly blocked.

      2. Go with a less reputable ad service and maybe get past some of the blockers, but at the risk of them serving malware.

      Option 1 is the best because at least some people will have not unticked the "allow some responsible advertising", although of course it depends if the developer thinks Google is responsible or not. They don't serve malware or animated ads, but they do track users.

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    3. Re:Good! by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Malware being #1, but another reason I use it is tracking. I have ghostery and i regularly see 10 or more tracking objects on a page. I don't see "better targeted ads" as a benefit.

      If im buying something, I do a specific search for it on Google/DuckDuckGo/SomeOtherSearch or Amazon/NewEgg/SomeOtherPurchaseSite. Then I'm done. If I'm browsing, I don't need to see the random items I've searched for in the past week. Either I bought them already or I decided not to buy. I've never seen an ad combat that problem, turn a "targeted ad since I know what you looked for last week" into a sale. They think that more data, more intrusion, less privacy is the answer, but it's not.

      So privacy being #2 reason, bandwidth and quality of browsing is #3 for me.

    4. Re:Good! by grub · · Score: 3, Interesting

      At work I currently have 1951 blackholed domains with the blacklist zone pointing everything back to 127.0.0.1 on our DNS.

      Same idea as a hosts file, but corporate manages the desktops and IE rules the roost. We can no longer install FF and AdBlock.

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    5. Re:Good! by macxcool · · Score: 1

      I disable AdBlock on websites that I want to support. Some of them notify me that AdBlock is installed and that they support themselves with ads. If I want to support the organization or if the product adds value to my life, I often disable the add-on and leave it disabled as long as the ads are not too terrible.

    6. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In this day and age of malware being delivered even by supposedly reputable third-party providers

      There is no such thing as a reputable third-party.
      If the ad-provider and the page host trusted each other then there wouldn't be a need to serve content from a third party. The page you are visiting could serve the ad and inform the ad-provider of usage statistics.
      They don't trust each other and gets angry when the end user doesn't trust the third party.

    7. Re:Good! by inasity_rules · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One allows "responsible" advertising until it annoys you. Then it goes. The point being that adverts should be helpful not annoying.

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    8. Re:Good! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      Option 3: Put in a little bit of effort, find relevant sponsors, and display their static logo or advertising text tastefully.

      I know of several small websites that do this. Adblockers don't block it, users generally won't want to, and the whole thing comes across as much more professional than a roll of "Top Ten Celebrity Nosejobs Gone Wrong!" on every page.

    9. Re:Good! by lokedhs · · Score: 1
      Or, they could do some work and not use an ad network instead. Sell ads directly. Those ads will probably be a lot better, as well as being virtually unblockable.

      Yes, I know that this disadvantages the little guys, but the truly annoying ads are usually not served by them.

    10. Re:Good! by houghi · · Score: 1

      Even if there was no malware, I do not like advertisements. I understand why they are there but that does not mean I like them.

      Some are not possible to avid, like the ones I see on the street or the ones that people wear. That still does not mean I am ok with them.

      I posted the Banksy quote elsewhere already http://www.davidairey.com/bank...

      I will do my best to NOT see them.

      It is not my problem that the websited that depend on them will go down. That is THEIR problem.

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    11. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got a brilliant idea for an advertisement system.

      Put ads on pages. "Target" them to the page, not to the user. So if I'm browsing a page on cars, I'll see ads for tires, oil, and wiper blades.

      Then "track" how many people see the page. It doesn't matter who they are; the only thing you know about them is that they're at least occasionally interested in cars. But since you don't have a single other piece of data about them, it reduces them to a tick on a running counter. The website owner still gets to claim X number of people saw the ad, so he collects his revenue from the ad company.

      To limit the annoyance factor, make those ads take minimal bandwidth and screen real estate. Bonus points for plain text ads, easily set apart from the rest of the page.

      How's that for a set of "play nicely" standards for ads on web sites?

      Oh, wait. That's how it used to be in the "good old days" of web browsing. Before the advertisers got greedy and evil. Since they had their chance to play nicely and chose not to do so, why should I care about their mythical lost revenue? Ad blocking FTW!

    12. Re:Good! by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google isn't reputable, they've served malware. They're right in line with option 2. And that's the reason why there's been such a surge in blocking all ads, because there generally is no clean source. The online ad industry has a serious problem, and they don't seem to want to fix it. If they did, they wouldn't be having such a problem with people blocking ads.

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    13. Re:Good! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      We can no longer install FF and AdBlock

      The people making these kinds of lame decisions need to be removed from their positions over IT. They don't have any ability to even begin to understand the problem, and shouldn't be in charge of any solutions.

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    14. Re:Good! by grub · · Score: 2

      Non-technical bureaucrats make these decisions. The types of losers who are too afraid/incompetent to make decisions so they choose to rule by committee.

      I've noticed a great influx of "professional managers" who know zip about actual IT, so they hire consultants rather than listening to their own people.

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    15. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy cron,

      You, my friend, need to totally violate computer security policy by bringing in a USB key with a portable copy of a browser of your choice.

      That'll show them.

    16. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those ads will probably be a lot better, as well as being virtually unblockable.

      Not true, element hiding helper will take care of that.

    17. Re:Good! by grub · · Score: 1

      I run whatever I want (desktop Mac and OpenBSD servers I still maintain). I was referring to the general user base. Their machines are locked down tight.

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    18. Re:Good! by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      1. Go with a major, reputable ad service like Google and be easily and effortlessly blocked.

      2. Go with a less reputable ad service and maybe get past some of the blockers, but at the risk of them serving malware.

      Google Ads is disappearing because Google realized their ads are blocked, so they're pushing their other ad networks like DoubleClick and such. And those ad networks have been serving up malware for ages.

      Go to any reputable site and the ad will be hosted by Google. Either directly, or through one of the many ad networks Google owns (remember, Google owns like 95% of all online advertising).

      About the only ad networks Google doesn't own are for less reputable sites that most normal advertisers won't touch, like ones on torrent sites and such.

    19. Re:Good! by rudy_wayne · · Score: 1

      In this day and age of malware being delivered even by supposedly reputable third-party providers, using an ad blocker is just plain responsible browsing.

      There are a lot of problems with online advertising, but ultimately, all the problems trace back to one thing -- too many middlemen. Websites get their ads from an ad network, who gets the ads from several different brokers, who get ads from a variety of sources, many of them not necessarily trustworthy.

      That's why you have well known reputable websites serving malware. That's why you can find ads for well known products (Progressive Insurance, Tide detergent, various auto companies, etc) on websites hosting pirated software and movies. That's why pages are now filled with fake virus warnings, fake security updates and all sorts of other crap that no one would ever click on, except by accident.

      Websites have refused to take responsibility for the ads they display so people are fighting back the best way they can.

    20. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10 is not that much. One one site I regularly use Privacy Badger showed 80 trackers with Ad blocker disabled

    21. Re:Good! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      I agree with your sentiment, but I'd like to point out the difficulty that webmasters face. They have two choice:

      What? Option 3, sell ads themselves. Option 4, no ads, monetize the site some other way. False Dichotomy is a logical fallacy, not a logical argument.

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    22. Re:Good! by JohnFen · · Score: 2

      I NEVER disable ad blocking, no matter what the website is. As near as I can tell, there is no such thing as "responsible" ads. They all track you.

    23. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You forgot:

      - Direct Sale ads using your own ad server (generic installations of Revive will not be blocked if using the Asynchronous javascript)
      - Direct Sale ads and display ads on the same server the content comes from
      - Use differently shaped ads to prevent generic "blocking" rules
      - Use differently named CSS containers prevent generic "blocking" rules
      - Use script that deletes additional CSS stylesheets (which is how adblock works on some browsers)
      - Serve ads directly via the img tag and anchor link.

      All of this is "more work"

      Google ads are worthless. If people are blocking google ads, they are literately pinching pennies.
      The only ads with any value come from third parties who don't screen ads nearly so well. And a lot of this comes from the way ads are done:

      All ads use document.write to do things. The Asynchronous code that Google and Revive use, don't use document.write, rather they create a new iframe DOM object and all the stuff gets sandboxed into that. Unfortunately browsers have yet to "discourage" document.write .

      And the new Windows 10, has made this problem so much worse because the default "1 pixel border" is the same as the default popup/windowbox rendering style. So now people can no longer tell the difference from a OS popup and a Browser popup.

    24. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disable AdBlock on websites that I want to support. Some of them notify me that AdBlock is installed and that they support themselves with ads. If I want to support the organization or if the product adds value to my life, I often disable the add-on and leave it disabled as long as the ads are not too terrible.

      You only really support them if you click through the ads and buy the actual stuff they are advertizing, are you really doing that? If not, then this is just an illusion you are supporting anybody (maybe an illusion shared with the websites or ad companies or junk sellers, but an illusion anyway).

    25. Re:Good! by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      Oh, wait. That's how it used to be in the "good old days" of web browsing. Before the advertisers got greedy and evil. Since they had their chance to play nicely and chose not to do so, why should I care about their mythical lost revenue? Ad blocking FTW!

      In the 'good old days' of web browsing... there were no ads. And you could actually find information you wanted, because the web wasn't flooded with a bazillion sites that exist solely to capture search queries and feed you ads.

    26. Re:Good! by FranTaylor · · Score: 2

      as long as the ads are not too terrible.

      because you can see the malware with your magic sixth sense?

    27. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If embedded tastefully, they will most likely not be blocked by default in any ad-blockers, and because they are tasteful and simple, people won't go through the trouble of manually blocking them.

    28. Re:Good! by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      That's why pages are now filled with fake virus warnings, fake security updates and all sorts of other crap that no one would ever click on, except by accident.

      Now filled? I'd say it's been a good 7 years since fake "XP antivirus 2008" and the like started gaining popularity. Spread through "reputable" ad networks on reputable sites. Ever since then I've installed ad-blockers primarily for security rather than annoyance.

    29. Re:Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, archie and gopher, before any of this Mosaic crap.

    30. Re:Good! by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      Even if malware weren't a concern, advertisers of late have been using obnoxious javascript and HTML5 tricks that make some sites effectively unreadable, especially on mobile devices. And then there are the "sign in with your Facebook account to continue reading" ones, and the sites that artificially drive up their hit counts by pretending that the pages or slideshow paradigms should still exist on the web, instead of letting me just scroll down.

      I do occasionally whitelist sites I want to support. But I'm very intolerant of shenanigans, and have no qualms about removing the whitelist entry. Respect (or the lack thereof) goes both ways, after all.

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    31. Re:Good! by Druegan · · Score: 1

      To be honest.. I cannot think of a single time where advertising has been "helpful" to me in any way...

    32. Re: Good! by inasity_rules · · Score: 1

      The explanation is simple. Firstly most people are doing advertising wrong, and secondly, you are probably not in a position where it could be helpful (e.g. trying to procure a sensor or specialist instruments)

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    33. Re:Good! by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      I don't work in commercial web site design (sites designed to make money), so this may be obvious to someone, but why isn't there some open source site framework that writes the ads to static html content or a static image (preserving the href to the product/service), then serves it. Would that break some sort of agreement with the ad service?

      Your site could even have a little "sticker" on it, "all ads served by 'Make-it-safe' framework, please do not block us!" - which would indicate to users that this site has safe adds.

  3. Fed up by careysb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mute the TV. Fast-forward recorded TV. Screen the calls. Block the ads.
    Fuck'em if they cant take a joke.

    1. Re:Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ads have gotten ridiculous. Hardly a week goes by where I don't get notified of an attempted malware attack on my comp while browsing, usually from malware on ad sites. And that's with adblock running. And if it's not malware, it's the fake security software and update notices.

      In some cases, ads take more than 70% of screen real estate. A quick check shows the /. homepage has 8 ads on it.

    2. Re:Fed up by geekmux · · Score: 2

      Mute the TV. Fast-forward recorded TV. Screen the calls. Block the ads. Fuck'em if they cant take a joke.

      The only thing that's a joke here is listening to the marketing "experts" bitch about how the impact of blocking ads will somehow cost billions.

      I haven't seen that kind of bullshit valuation since buying diamonds from a retail chain.

    3. Re:Fed up by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nobody calculated the cost of malignant ads taking over computers via the latest Flash/Java vulnerability. Perhaps, if they didn't actually their users more than it makes for the advertisers, then perhaps we wouldn't use adblockers nearly as much.

      Ad networks are their own worst enemies.

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    4. Re:Fed up by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I hate it when they actually me.

      Joking aside, I didn't start using an adblocker until ads started opening new windows, opening popunder windows, resize windows, and otherwise mess with the browser itself. Admittedly that was a long time ago, but I learned my lesson once and frankly as long as technology exists that lets me block ads I will block ads because of it.

      The marketing industry has no one to blame but itself.

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    5. Re: Fed up by OrangeTide · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ads cost nearly $100 Billion in lost time. Computing time and employee time. Malicious ads add an additional cost of $200 B/year.

      (I made those numbers up. But so did the anti-blockers)

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    6. Re:Fed up by trek00 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Advertisers are becoming increasingly harmful. They must find a balance between capturing the user interest and the degradation of the user experience. If they became too annoying, the user shut them up, with ad-block or simply the mute button.

      Personally I don't use ad-block as I completely disable javascript, that automagically blocks 99% of ads (and other stupid messages) and let instant loading of web pages.

    7. Re:Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Last time I used some mainstream social networking sites without AdBlock in a VM, it took about 10 minutes before the virtual machine was chock full of scareware, its CPU was pegged, and it was scanning the LAN.

      AdBlock isn't just for ads, it is a vital tool in security, arguably more important than antivirus software, because it stops the malvertising before it gets on your machine. In fact, if one has AdBlock, a click to play utility, and sandboxes/VMs the Web browser, that takes care of almost all attacks out there, except for Trojans, which can be combatted by running questionable executables in a VM, or just pasting the file's hash into VirusTotal's site and seeing what comes up.

    8. Re:Fed up by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      the user shut them up, with ad-block or simply the mute button.

      Or in the case of television and radio, there have been attempts to regulate how annoying ads can be via legislation.

      Specifically, the 'volume turn up' trick. You know, where you're watching a show, then an ad comes on and you're diving for the volume down button because it's 3X as loud as the show?

      Of course, 'loud' isn't a technical term, so the legislation ended up being ineffective, but given enough imputus, people will push for it again. Or do like me, and cut the 'live' television plug because their show isn't worth sitting through an equal amount of advertising for shit I would never buy or already buy. Seriously, I don't base my purchases on TV ads.

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    9. Re:Fed up by advocate_one · · Score: 2, Informative

      currently running adblock plus and I never see ads... something is wrong with your settings.

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    10. Re:Fed up by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Joking aside, I didn't start using an adblocker until ads started opening new windows, opening popunder windows, resize windows, and otherwise mess with the browser itself.

      So, around 1998 then? Me too.

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    11. Re: Fed up by IMightB · · Score: 1

      Not to mention ads are one of the primary vectors of virus and malware

    12. Re:Fed up by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well I don't get many of the attempted malware attacks... But I get of a lot of poorly coded Javascript/HTML5 adds, that just slow everything down. I tend to use a laptop, so when the CPU starts kicking, so does the cooling fan, and then drains my batteries.
      I am OK with advertising, I get it, If I am going to use a site for free, Gettings adds is a way to keep revenue for the side. But when the Adds take up more CPU power than it would for a complex Database query and calculation of a million rows, There is a problem with that. So I put on an Ad Blocker, just for proper function of my PC.

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    13. Re:Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep, the "but ads pay for content" is basically used as a moral attack (blocking ads is stealing). You can't play the moral card when ads are outright obnoxious and dangerous.

    14. Re: Fed up by Khashishi · · Score: 1

      Your time browsing /. was already lost employee time, so the ads aren't really costing your employer any more.

    15. Re:Fed up by NeoGeo64 · · Score: 0

      That is why I installed Ad-Block Plus. Well, it was the final straw. Slashdot was running some shit based Flash ad that was taking up the entire page and using 5GB of RAM to run the ad in plugin-containter. Not only does it block ads but contributes to the general stability of your system.

    16. Re:Fed up by TWX · · Score: 1

      Yeah, somewhere around there. Might have been more like 1999 or 2000. First I disabled Javascript and such as most websites didn't use it for anything legitimate or they still had pages that could function without it, and then after it got too difficult to surf without it I had to start using active blocking tools. I did a lot of PC desktop support back then and I think seeing so many messed up computers due to Internet-delivered malware helped reinforce my hatred of ads, toolbars, popups, and anything else that detracted from simply reading the content of the webpage.

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    17. Re:Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i could probably even deal with 70% of non-animated non-clickbait advertisements. the problem is advertisers continue to be more and more intrusive. popup,punch the monkey shit. Also these "interactive" ads are huge malware vectors.

      Give me static links, with MAYBE a picture, and 12 words.

      That is acceptable.

      animate shit, you broke the social contract and your ad is blocked.

    18. Re:Fed up by GNious · · Score: 0

      * Adblock Plus (Browser plugin)
      * AdNauseam (Browser plugin)
      * Privacy Badger (Browser plugin)
      * HTTPS-Everywhere (Browser plugin)
      * Norton ConnectSafe (DNS servers)
      * disabled Flash (setting in browser)

      That should take care of most of the ads + malware. Optionally use something to simply kill scripts, but that might impact the usability of various sites.

    19. Re:Fed up by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

      Fast-forward recorded TV

      Our cable TV service features a channel with most broadcast / basic cable shows available for re-watch for a week or so. Ads are still inserted and you *cannot* fast-forward thru them.

      I fear that one day, this will become mandatory on anything one deigns to record on *their* DVR.

    20. Re:Fed up by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

      Oy! and the bandwidth and data usage!

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    21. Re: Fed up by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

      I was on the can using my cell phone. I win at multitasking!

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    22. Re:Fed up by ultranova · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The only thing that's a joke here is listening to the marketing "experts" bitch about how the impact of blocking ads will somehow cost billions.

      I haven't seen that kind of bullshit valuation since buying diamonds from a retail chain.

      Or since someone last tried to tell the future from chicken guts. Economy is the religion of our culture and economists are its high priests, always preaching the word of their patron companies. It's why Cold War took on aspects of a holy war, and why people get so ridiculously attached to particular economic ideas.

      The guys who wrote the report aren't trying to bullshit anyone, they're simply using their religion's version of Hell semi-casually to express displeasure, with the assumption that the reader understands it's hyperbole.

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    23. Re:Fed up by zachdms · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I didn't start blocking ads until lazy ad networks started allowing malware into their system. If you can't be responsible enough to not try to destroy my system, you shouldn't be on my system at all.

    24. Re: Fed up by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      Actually, my time browsing /. has already been paid for by productivity increases. Okay, so I am resting on my laurels a bit, but IMHO it sparked one of the greatest things I've done at work.

      Back in the early 2000's I was reading /. and saw two unrelated articles, that caused me to try to combine them. I had already known about both, but the proximity of both to each other sparked a thought.

      That spark, allow us to be able to image WinXP machines, fully patched, with the correct drivers for all of our various computers, without intervention. Something that RIS/WDS couldn't do natively. This saved us a boat load of IT time, and allowed me to complete a project in a fraction of the time I had originally estimated. And over the years (six-seven), it served us admirably.

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    25. Re: Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps rather than try to prop our eyelids open, Clockwork Orange style, and force us to read/hear/watch their fucking advertisement messages, they could be RESPECTFUL and make the ads inoffensive and unobtrusive, and not cover the screen, not clickjack, not try to trick... Then maybe we wouldn't block.

      Advertising assholes also forget this one crucial thing: THIS ISNT TV OR RADIO, SIMPLEX COMMUNICATIONS, where all one need do is buy a device. We are PAYING for bandwidth, and their annoying, offensive, patronizing, dishonest, manipulative, REPETITIVE, insulting, irritating FUCKING ads are COSTING us time and money, adding insult to injury, to say noting of the invasion of privacy it represents when they try to learn more about me to figure out how to get me to buy more of their SHIT! In other words, try to exploit a security vulnerability in my guard against buying shit I don't NEED.

      Thank you, (advertiser), I am now aware of YOUR PRODUCT. Seeing another hindered fucking advertisements will only make me remember how irritated I am and cause me to add you to the LIST. A list I keep of things I won't buy and businesses I won't patronize under ANY. FUCKING. CIRCU STANCES.

      EVER.

      Because I know their game. They know even if they piss you off, eventually, under normal circumstances, the memory will fade. The annoyance will fade, and all that will remain is the identification of their BRAND NAME, causing consumers to prefer their known brand to another, perhaps lesser known brand. To defeat this, I KEEP RECORDS. Because... FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

      This is BEFORE the issue of malware. Now, for all the advertisers whose ads are NOT offensive, intrusive, etc, etc, amen... Your fellow businesses and advertisers FUCKED IT UP FOR YOU. TALK TO THEM.

    26. Re: Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sir, you're wrong. I'm sorry, the cost of malicious software did not account for the intentional infliction of emotional distress, and lingering costs breaches of trust do in perpetuity in their aftermath.

      The actual cost, the damage done BY advertisers to people who do not block ads is, and this is a conservative estimate, 78.6 quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion dollars.

      So whining, crying advertisers who are hoping to follow the RIAA model of suing people for using ad blockers OR buying our elected officials and getting them to amend the DMCA to ad that in addition to circumventing copy protection being a federal crime, so will be consuming any kind of content WITHOUT listening to, reading, or watching the wretched ads!

      You know this is coming. How far behind it will advertisers start demanding that you not only read/view/hear ads, but that you actually buy whatever they're selling?

      "Dude, why do you have three boxes of maxi pads on your dining room table?"

      "Because I watched a movie on Lifetime and was legally OBLICATED to, that's why!"

    27. Re:Fed up by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      Mute the TV. Fast-forward recorded TV. Screen the calls. Block the ads.
      Fuck'em if they cant take a joke.

      What's funny (or sad) is DVDs / Blu-rays that block you from fast-forwarding through previews. On a disc you bought. However if you rip the disc, or download it off the internet, there's no obnoxious ads they force you to sit through.

    28. Re: Fed up by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Your numbers are completely bogus! It's much worse than that.

    29. Re:Fed up by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Best comment on the subject. You sir, are truly insightful.

    30. Re: Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The actual cost, the damage done BY advertisers to people who do not block ads is, and this is a conservative estimate, 78.6 quadrillion quadrillion quadrillion dollars.

      This is exactly the amount needed to combat climate change. Coincidence?

    31. Re:Fed up by Forever+Wondering · · Score: 1

      Good suggestions. In addition to Ablock Plus, I've got Ghostery instead of Privacy Badger [which is new]. Any thoughts regarding the last two?

      Most web designers assume javascript is available, so disabling it completely probably will cripple most [even legit] websites. For example, my HMO's website uses javascript to do the patient login. Disabling it would make the site unusable.

      Maybe what's needed is something similar to ABP for scripts (e.g. a tunable NoScript with blocklist subscription). Something more fine grained that site whitelisting. Just block the nasty [parts of] scripting. But, this is much trickier to do and not break things. A website dynamically obfuscating the JS would probably be able to get around any smart filter.

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    32. Re:Fed up by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 1

      I had forgotten that FB even HAD ads until I was at a friend's house. I was like O_O WTF-?

      My god! It's full of ads!

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    33. Re: Fed up by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      Not to mention ads are one of the primary vectors of virus and malware

      this. seriously. People ask me (all the time) how to keep from getting viruses on 'teh intertubes" and some people I just don't really get into it with because they aren't really worth the time.

      But some people are intelligent enough to understand it and I tell them that to really be safe when browsing is inconvenient and doesn't really require an antivirus.

      You have to block ads and scripts and all that stuff, ghostery, noscript and ABP, and those can be really annoying especially noscript. To be even safer you use sandboxie and that's pretty hard core.

      But when you do it that way you are safe, no AV required basically. Nothing gets through.

      Who would want to do all that?

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    34. Re: Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bad thing about HOSTS is that pop ups/pop unders/ and new windows still appear. Yeah the ads blocked, but the window still appears outta nowhere bitching about server not found.
      Take that APK!

    35. Re:Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's spelled "ad" because it's short for "advertisement". Two letters is not a difficult word to learn.

    36. Re: Fed up by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      That is just in my own state. An entire country or the entire would be many times that.

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    37. Re: Fed up by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      entire world.

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    38. Re:Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for the sites which require JavaScript just to read a damn text article or see a picture. I can't remember any sites specifically because I never go back but those bastards are out there.

      The problem with JavaScript and other interactive technologies is they make the web interactive both ways you can interact and it can interact. I am not fully convinced you can have completely secure interaction. Perhaps web browsers should be read only and web sites that actually require interaction should offer browser plugins.

    39. Re:Fed up by cheesybagel · · Score: 0

      I use uBlock and Disconect. uBlock is a lot faster than ABP.

    40. Re:Fed up by MPBoulton · · Score: 0

      The advertising industry is not exactly full of people who are competent in IT, so why should anyone care about their whining when they can't properly vet their own output for malware?

    41. Re:Fed up by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Of course advertisers don't calculate that cost. They don't pay it. As is traditional, companies ignore externalities as long as possible, then complain about anybody who talks about them.

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    42. Re:Fed up by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      If you pirate the movie, you also don't have to see the FBI piracy warning. Nobody ever sees those except legitimate customers.

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    43. Re:Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you promoting random words to pronouns?

      'Adds'. 'Database'. 'There'.

      Just... why?

      Oh, and 'adds' is a nonexistent plural form of the popular mathematical operation. You mean 'ads'.

      What the hell is happening to this country? This shit's just not complicated.

    44. Re:Fed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting[s], too. You do know that you aren't supposed to capitalize the word after a comma unless it's a pronoun, right? Commas don't work like periods. What the fuck...

    45. Re:Fed up by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      They must find a balance between capturing the user interest and the degradation of the user experience.

      I have never sat in on an advertising meeting, but I'm guessing they don't care at all about the user experience. More likely, the UX/UI people care about the user experience, and have to fight tooth and nail against the ad team, who more than likely always wins because $$$.

      I think of TV channels like Syfy. On all shows, they put a Syfy logo in the corner of the show. Because hell, you might forget what station you are watching. It doesn't matter if the logo blocks important parts of the visual. And then bright, glaring, sometimes moving, in-show advertisements, mostly for shows you probably already know about on the Syfy channel.

  4. It's badly written ad scripts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have no objection of watching ads. After all, it's the bread and butter to support a lot of sites. However, some of the ad scripts are so badly written that they basically bring my PC to a halt. This is particularly serious for flash scripts. I block them for my PC health actually.

    1. Re:It's badly written ad scripts by calidoscope · · Score: 2

      That was my motivation to use Flash Blocker - got really tired of my computer coming to a halt and occasionally having Firefox crash due to badly written ad scripts. The companies buying the as need to pay more attention to the quality of the scripts.

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    2. Re:It's badly written ad scripts by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      This.

      I've never before considered running an adblocker - I run Linux, I'm proof against most malware (apart from that shiny new Firefox PDF reader bug, I guess).

      Then I noticed that there are pages that bring my quad-core 16GB behemoth of a computer to it's knees. I'm now seriously considering installing one.

      Some of the worst culprits are newspapers - they have so many scripts on their pages that the page chugs when it scrolls.

      But there are other culprits as well, just because their page code sucks, like the Twitter web app. Runs up my CPU consumption. On my phone, it makes it warm up. (I refuse to install the Twitter app on my phone ever since the permissions list went from "intrusive" to "rectal probe").

    3. Re:It's badly written ad scripts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I run Linux, I'm proof against most malware

      Most, but certainly not all. Sorry, my friend, but I think you're being an ostrich. Have a read through the various *nix vulnerabilities on us-cert.gov and do yourself a favour by at least pointing your browsers through Privoxy or some other ad-blocking proxy.

  5. One-sided analysis by Spyrus · · Score: 2

    I love how they quote figures for "losses to online publishers" with a confidence interval of 100%, while completely failing to address how GDMF ANNOYING the modern web is if you don't block ads. If I couldn't block ads on sites I otherwise like that choose to run super annoying ads, then I would simply block the entire site and not visit any of the "content" there. Hey online advertisers: Here's How To Keep People From Blocking Your Stuff With This One Weird, Old Trick! All you have to do is stop being so annoying. Really, that's it.

    1. Re: One-sided analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not my fault their webserver allows me to pull content I want, while blocking content I don't.

    2. Re:One-sided analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Losses to online publishers". Really? I thought they got paid for ads I click on, not ones I ignore. This sounds supsiciously like mafIAAs "Quadrillions lost on record/VHS/DVD sales due to piracy" The difference is, I'm paying for the ads even if I don't want them (bandwidth, data caps)

  6. "cost online publishers" by pem · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nope. Not how it works. Not getting revenue from someone who wouldn't have clicked on your link if it were full of adware (for them) is not a "cost." The actual cost is in bandwidth, etc. and is much less than beelions of dollars.

    1. Re:"cost online publishers" by userw014 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even more - Ad Blockers don't "cost" publishers anything. They just deny publishers the use of broken business process technology. While accountants might like to treat this as a "cost", it's really nonsense.

      However the continued use of "cost" in this way does reveal publishers to be whingy blood suckers whose protestations are of no merit.

    2. Re:"cost online publishers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their figure is kinda surprising anyway. 21800 / 198 = 110 $/person/year . Are they really making that much money from my eyeballs?

    3. Re:"cost online publishers" by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Nope. Not how it works. Not getting revenue from someone who wouldn't have clicked on your link if it were full of adware (for them) is not a "cost." The actual cost is in bandwidth, etc. and is much less than beelions of dollars.

      Some advertisers per impression. While I don't know all of the ins-and-outs of how ad blockers work, it seems to me if they are blocking the ads from the source & they aren't getting served, then the publisher is indeed losing revenue. Otherwise why would a publisher care? I know some sites I have visited display a black "Support our site. Please turn off your ad blocker", so there must be some sort of incentive for them to show them. There are probably other metrics too like clicks per impression, and if you don't get enough of those, you lose the advertisers.

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    4. Re:"cost online publishers" by bitingduck · · Score: 1

      Some advertisers per impression.

      If they're getting paid per impression it would be very easy for them to serve ads that can't be easily blocked and are unobtrusive-- serve them from their own servers as part of the content and have an audit trail so advertisers can verify. Much like newspapers do. Nobody, as far as I know, chooses to do that. They'd rather just plug in a bit of code to let advertisers stick in their content, no matter how irritating.

    5. Re:"cost online publishers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they're just spending that much money on your eyeballs. Marketing departments set aside a large portion of their budgets for advertising their product; sometimes even more than they put into developing their products. They do have cheaper options available, but that would mean less money for Marketing, and corporate departments all seem to have this obsession with getting a bigger budget, no matter whether they need it or not.

      Thus, they will continue spending more money on ads to fail to generate more revenue, which will cause them to believe that they just aren't advertising hard enough, so they spend more money on more intrusive ads which fail to generate revenue, which causes a self-fulfilling cycle of "needing" more and more intrusive advertising to generate the tiny amounts of revenue that justify it all.

    6. Re:"cost online publishers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Furthermore, all advertising costs are added to the product price, so we're all paying for them in the grand scheme of it.

    7. Re:"cost online publishers" by pem · · Score: 1
      We are discussing revenue that they are not currently getting, and that they would still not be getting if ad-blockers didn't work (because I find the ads so annoying I wouldn't be bothered going to the site).

      If that's lost revenue, they the publisher is the one who lost it and it is up to them to find it again.

      Hint: the solution is not technical.

    8. Re:"cost online publishers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bandwidth cost is even LESS without the ads and without the ten+ different tracking scripts and other bullshit that needlessly weighs down pages these days. publishers (and our own access providers too) should be THANKING US for reducing their costs!

    9. Re:"cost online publishers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bandwidth point is important. Ads burn a lot of bandwidth in aggregate. The 4G LTE providers have a conundrum.

      Spend money to keep building out networks to handle the growing bandwidth that Ads suck up?

      Profit of from the metered bandwidth consumption model?

      Personally, I feel we are past the point of no return. Internet traffic will never be bandwidth optimized from this point onward. There will remain a market for optimizing satellite and space links.

    10. Re:"cost online publishers" by hellopolly · · Score: 1

      And the bandwidth cost is mostly covered by the consumer anyway.

    11. Re:"cost online publishers" by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Using the word "cost" to mean "cause the loss of" is perfectly acceptable English.

      Note: This message should not be taken as anything more than an English lesson; it does not imply support of any kind for any advertisers.

    12. Re:"cost online publishers" by gmiller123456 · · Score: 1

      Actually, that is how it (mostly) works. It's true some ads only pay per click, but many pay just per view. So the cost of producing and serving up content without also paying for it is an actual cost. And it's usually the annoying, popup/pop-over flashy ads that are the ones that pay per view.

    13. Re:"cost online publishers" by asimons04 · · Score: 1

      Or be Verizon and have low data caps, expensive plans, high overage charges, AND own ad networks that serve up crap. You'd think there'd be some kind of anti-trust case there, but not in this day and age.

    14. Re:"cost online publishers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't. I don't buy anything that was advertised ever.
      Typically, there's much better (and typically more costly) alternatives than the cheap crap that is being advertised.

    15. Re:"cost online publishers" by pem · · Score: 1

      You shouldn't be giving English lessons if you read that badly.

    16. Re:"cost online publishers" by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      What did I read incorrectly? The phrase you quoted was "cost online publishers", and then you talked about not getting some amount of revenue is not a cost. My point was simply that "cost" was not being used to mean "expenditure".

    17. Re:"cost online publishers" by pem · · Score: 1
      Even if I were to stipulate that not receiving revenue might be a cost under some circumstances, under the circumstances where the ads are so obnoxious that the only way I would view the site is with an ad-blocker, then there was no revenue for them to receive anyway. Take away my ad-blocker, and I won't be visiting the site.

      Believing otherwise is to think it's a cost to the farmer on the side of the road every time I drive by his truck without stopping to buy vegetables.

    18. Re:"cost online publishers" by pem · · Score: 1

      So are you deliberately conflating "cost" with "lost revenue"? I like to know whether I'm dealing with trolls, stupidity, or simply a lack of attention.

    19. Re:"cost online publishers" by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      I never said anything about whether or not I agree with people using ad blockers (it's why I explicitly said that I wasn't). I don't blame you at all for blocking obnoxious ads.

      My only point was that "cost" as a verb (not "cost" as a noun, which is how you're using it) is commonly used to mean failure to gain/win something. A lot of other people here made the same mistake.

    20. Re:"cost online publishers" by pem · · Score: 1
      Your original post said "cause the loss" of. My initial post explained that when I use ad-blockers, it does not, in fact cause the loss of any revenue, because I wouldn't go to the obnoxious websites unless I could do it with an ad-blocker. Your continual disavowal of whether using ad-blockers is good or not is not on point and has nothing to do with that.

      Your new assertion about cost as a verb is also not on point, because (1) as I explained, there is absolutely zero loss of revenue here, and (2) even if you view it as "the failure to gain/win something", my posts make clear that it is the inane ads, rather than the ad blocker, causing this failure.

  7. The obvious solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Lets make ads even _more_ invasive! Surely that will work this time!

  8. Hmm, maybe, just maybe by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's because ads are pollution of the mind, advertizing agencies (not just on the internet) commoditize people's brain runtime without asking their permission, and people generally FUCKING HATE IT.

    Gee, what a surprise...

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    1. Re:Hmm, maybe, just maybe by inasity_rules · · Score: 1

      Not always. Sometimes I'm looking for a solution and the adds that come up in my search are relevant. If they relate to what I need, I have no problem with that. It's when they get in the way or block legitimate results that I get pissed off. Heck if someone has a better way to measure, say slurry density than radio-isotope based sensors, I'm all ears. I'll even watch your video. Do I care about penis enlargements or the latest hollywood obscenity? Not so much.

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    2. Re:Hmm, maybe, just maybe by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Sometimes I'm looking for a solution and the adds that come up in my search are relevant. If they relate to what I need, I have no problem with that.

      I have a huge problem with that. Well, not that part exactly, but the tracking that is required in order to accomplish it. When I see a targeted ad, it reminds me of why I do my best to ensure that block all ads.

    3. Re:Hmm, maybe, just maybe by undefinedreference · · Score: 1

      I sometimes appreciate these ads, too. About 1-in-100, but if they're really well targeted, they are useful, especially if you're looking to buy something unusual.

    4. Re:Hmm, maybe, just maybe by inasity_rules · · Score: 1

      This is why you use duckduckgo for personal searches and google for work. Or, you know, just screw it.

      Oblig: https://xkcd.com/1223/

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    5. Re:Hmm, maybe, just maybe by sudon't · · Score: 1

      When I look for relevant stuff, I use a search engine. You can't trust advertising copy, anyway. And I certainly won't slog through a million ads waiting for something relevant to me to pop up. I'm not sure that would even happen.

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    6. Re:Hmm, maybe, just maybe by inasity_rules · · Score: 1

      I get at most 3 text adds at the top of my google searches. About 50% of the time they are relevant, and about 10% of the time are duplicated in the first couple of results, so a bit redundant... There are more down the side. In a way, it's a bit like yellow pages are. If I had to slog through "millions of ads" I would doubtless agree with you. The adds normally lead to a webpage. From the webpage I can asses the solutions offered and dig for more information(demo units, local distributors, etc).

      Perhaps your line of work you don't need to source much, so yeah, but I would not suggest these things are useless for everybody there exist at least 5 people who have found what they are looking for through sponsored results.

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  9. Welcome to the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's going to be an arms race now.
    I was testing out some stuff with privacy badger and I noticed that it does block at least some ads (all the ones I tested with).
    But it seems to be based on the domain serving the ad. Maybe next we will see companies using random domain names to serve their ads in an attempt to bypass this?
    I think it's funny that they think I'm somehow obligated to download and render every little bit of their website.

  10. No, not costing anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Revenue you fail to generate is not a cost. If that were the case, then we'd all be losing an *infinite* amount of money every day.

    1. Re:No, not costing anything by buck-yar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      “It is tragic that ad block users are inadvertently inflicting multi-billion dollar losses on the very websites they most enjoy,” said PageFair boss Sean Blanchfield.

      Failure to generate revenue apparently is a loss.

      Everyone on earth is losing trillions every second.

    2. Re:No, not costing anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell that to the crowd pushing for TPP.

    3. Re:No, not costing anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. The US Federal budget is about $3.5 trillion per year. The fact that they don't send all of that money to me, I'm incurring a loss!

    4. Re:No, not costing anything by Translation+Error · · Score: 2

      I'm amazed they're not accusing ad block users of stealing.

      --
      When someone says, "Any fool can see ..." they're usually exactly right.
    5. Re:No, not costing anything by ImprovOmega · · Score: 2

      That's next. Anti-piracy in music was originally framed as "costing" the publishers money and then later framed as outright theft.

    6. Re: No, not costing anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like them to prove these losses, I've never in my life made a purchase because of an add click or appearance. I assume there are many more like me. (All add clicks I've ever made were due to poor placement, and in almost every case I abandoned the site permanently. Yes even TV. )

    7. Re:No, not costing anything by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2

      said PageFair boss.... this is the problem.

      I remember the old days, WebHostingTalk forum in fact, that had ads, only they were embedded into the page. The site operators themselves had a pdf of the site demographics, users, visits and suchlike and would offer advertisers a number of banners or images they could send to the site in exchange for a set amount of cash. That worked - it was difficult to block those ads without blocking other parts of the site (though it was still possible, I don't think anyone did it though as the ads were not excessive).

      The ads were also closely targeted towards to site demographics - no ads for lawnmowers on a forum discussing web hosting!

      But then... we got Google adwords and the other middlemen who insisted that putting ads on your site was something they'd take care of for you, and you'd get loads more money as they'd be targeted at the users based on user's past preferences (ie they could charge the advertiser more because of some bull about only showing them to people interested in them) and they would only take a small cut of the proceeds, whilst the site operators suddenly find they can jut put this widget here and .. loadsamoney, with no effort required.

      And this is why your damn OS phones home continually, and there are more ads popping up and flashing at you than ever before, and many of them are useless anyway (like the time I went looking for some new windscreen wipers, I bought them and for a fortnight afterwards I was bombarded with ads for wipers that I would never buy because I just had some brand new ones!).

      So, too bad, I have zero sympathy. If a site wants to host adverts directly, I will typically not block them and the adblockers won't have them in their lists anyway. To the numerous rip-off ad merchants.. fuck you. Put that in your damn tracking cookies.

    8. Re:No, not costing anything by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      To be fair, even by their crazy definition there has to be some opportunity to make money before it can be "lost". In other words the millions of people who bought lottery tickets last week lost tens of millions. The lottery should stop making them lose money and select their numbers next week, if they want people to carry on playing their game.

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    9. Re:No, not costing anything by dysmal · · Score: 1

      Failure to generate revenue apparently is a loss.

      Everyone on earth is losing trillions every second.

      They're using RIAA/MPAA math.

    10. Re:No, not costing anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Page views cost money. Those that block ads are costing the website money without contributing any revenue. So yes, loss.

    11. Re:No, not costing anything by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Just wait until these ad companies start sending checks to politicians. You'll have a congressional hearing on the use of ad blockers.

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      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    12. Re:No, not costing anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      same with tpp

    13. Re:No, not costing anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does not take much effort in Google to find suitable CxO-level quotes where exactly that has been said by some of them in reputable news sources.

  11. Heh... "Cost" by dmomo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You mean "deny". This is like saying a fence "cost" a wolf some chickens. I understand paying for content by watching ads... but the popups, the tracking, and the auto-play videos are getting out of hand.

    1. Re:Heh... "Cost" by buck-yar · · Score: 2

      In our current blame-others society (the article exemplifies this), the fence is starving that wolf. Some would even say that fence is killing the wolf.

    2. Re:Heh... "Cost" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In a more sensible world we'd shoot the wolf, because it's a wolf...

    3. Re:Heh... "Cost" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    4. Re:Heh... "Cost" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Autoplay videos are the scourge of the web right now. Even slashdot is guilty.

    5. Re:Heh... "Cost" by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Yes, "cost" can also mean "cause the loss of".

      "That bad pass cost them the game." Or, in a more Slashdot-friendly version, "Billy's mother forced him to leave the basement, which cost them the game."

    6. Re:Heh... "Cost" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they are not losing anything, they are just not gaining it. Game analogies are not apt here as a within a game loss is within the context of loss/win. In terms of money, a loss is when you actually have to pay out cash. They are not paying out cash every time someone blocks an ad, they are just not gaining cash. Massive difference. When you close the door on a Jehovah's Witness, are you costing them anything? No you are merely preventing them from gaining another ear to talk into. Actually, that analogy doesn't even work because at least Jehovah's Witness actually do spend their time in order to walk to individual houses. Ads are mass distributed at zero cost to the distributor.

  12. Makes sense by war4peace · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The industry loses money because they don't understand their mistakes.
    I don't mind seeing ads in their little corner, not flashing, clearly labeled as such. Hell, I even welcome targeted ads!
    But when an auto-loading, auto-playing full page Flash add with sound suddenly pops over my screen and scares me to death while I'm trying to read an article... well then fuck you, I'm gonna block the shit out of it and everything that comes from that website until the end of time.

    Many games I found and play were initially found by me through ads. So ads do help. They're just, for most part, intruding and badly designed.
    The ad industry doesn't understand that AdBlock is an effect, caused by their shitty race to make ads "more visible". I guess they're a victim of their own "success".

    I've seen websites that don't let me view any content on them if I have AdBlock, I blacklisted them entirely.

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    ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    1. Re:Makes sense by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      At some point, it is going to be up to the content providers to help improve things. I don't mind ads that are static, fit the theme of the content, and load quickly. But animated GIFs and video ads, effing overlays or things that make my page load slow to a crawl are only compelling people to use ad-blockers.

      IF you want to get ads in front of me, just cache static ads and deliver with the rest of the page content without making the content unreadable.

    2. Re:Makes sense by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Agree - many of the forums I use have a banner ad at the top and bottom, and that's it. I have no problem with that. What happens, though, is some people do - and they block it, which then starts the race between advertisers making ever more annoying ads and blockers blocking them. All because advertisers couldn't accept some loss from people who would never have clicked on the ads anyway.

      --
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    3. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree partially. I don't mind seeing their ads as long as they are willing to pay for my bandwidth and CPU use to display those ads. Their current model is like having them paint a huge advertisement on the side of your house without your permission.

      I rarely watch TV any more because nearly one third of the time is used for advertising. If I want to watch the show I will find it on a streaming site and watch without the constant barrage of ads.

    4. Re:Makes sense by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The problem is that even if a particular ad network stops having horrible flashing adverts and reverts back to plain text, they won't be unblocked. In this very discussion someone else points out that even Google is trustworthy because Doubleclick, who they own, accidentally served malware once. Google is probably as good as we can hope to get - text only ads, kinda respects Do-Not-Track.

      So advertisers are screwed. No matter what they do, people will block them. People will never trust them enough to unblock.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    5. Re:Makes sense by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I've seen websites that don't let me view any content on them if I have AdBlock, I blacklisted them entirely.

      I especially like to find ways around that and view their content anyway, download it if possible. They want to spend their time making the internet grate? Fine, let's make that even more fun for them.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re:Makes sense by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The problem is that even if a particular ad network stops having horrible flashing adverts and reverts back to plain text, they won't be unblocked.

      That's not a problem. It's a deterrent. Other networks can learn from their abject failure, which they deserve. You do not have a right to make a profit, especially when your method for doing so is deliberately hijacking eyeballs. My eyeballs are busy, and the advertisers can fuck off from them immediately. I'm using them for something useful.

      If some websites have to die because they can't live without advertising, fuck them sideways. Advertising is a plague upon humanity. We could argue about what is valid advertising all day, but if its goal is to steal my attention to make me buy some shit I don't need, it's evil and should be destroyed.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    7. Re:Makes sense by war4peace · · Score: 2

      1. If they ever started doing that, they were willing to be permanently labeled as bad and keep that label until the end of time.
      2. If an ad-serving company (or website-owning company) are 100% sure that their ads stay out of the way, they could approach AdBlock developers and work together to create a whitelist.

      IMO webmasters made a huge mistake by offloading ad-serving to 3rd parties, because 3rd parties usually don't give a fuck, website visitors go apeshit angry at intruding ads and ultimately it's the website that gets the shaft. Managing your own ads is a lot more work but it might just as well pay off in the end.

      Generally, the situation is shitty. Whenever I use a browser without adblock to visit various websites, I am appalled by the large amount of flashing, overlaying, sound-enabled, intruding ads that are all over the place. It's a fucking mess. At the same time, it's sad, really, because as I was saying, I welcome targeted ads, just not the "in-yer-face" types, which are still everywhere. I have enabled the Google text ads in AdBlock as well as whitelisting specific Youtube channels, but apart from that, there's little in terms of options.

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      ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    8. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is that even if a particular ad network stops having horrible flashing adverts and reverts back to plain text, they won't be unblocked.

      This.
      Just the other day I had some website with one of those images asking me to unblock ads on their website.
      I like their website, so I unblock.
      First ad I get is some "your computer may have problems, let us scan it" type ads.
      I block it again and will never unblock again for that website.

    9. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The two most useful tools I've seen for this are NoScript, Nuke Anything Enhanced, and AdBlock itself. NoScript to block any scripts that aren't actually needed, including most AdBlock detector scripts, and AdBlock to selectively block specific script files. Nuke Anything Enhanced puts a "remove this object" command on the right-click menu, which can break tricks like throwing a message over the whole page that a script is supposed to remove once it determines that its ads are allowed to load.

  13. Boo hoo ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And now all of these companies will try to claim we're "stealing" revenue from them by not viewing ads.

    Sorry, but we're under no obligation to watch your damned ads. We don't owe you the ability to display stuff on our screens, nor do we owe you the revenue associated with this.

    Boo fucking hoo, the mean old internets are stopping allowing you to make money for embedding crap in our web pages and providing a vector for malware.

    That's simply tragic.

    But you can bet the lobbyists are hard at work telling the politicians this is a vital part of the economy and if people are allowed to block ads world will end.

    Bloody parasites.

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    1. Re:Boo hoo ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The big guys are now at work on binary page delivery and you won't be able to block ads in the near future. The page blob will have to be decrypted by a javascript stub then displayed. So enjoy these salad days while you can.

    2. Re:Boo hoo ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The online games / MMO space has something to say about this: "The client is in the hands of the enemy." -Koster

      Disclaimer: I work for a company who benefits from ads.

    3. Re:Boo hoo ... by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      That's no problem -- I just won't go to those sites. Despite what assholes like PageFair are claiming, the sites that are of the greatest value tend to be the ones that aren't deep into advertising to begin with.

  14. not making money is cost? by Revek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They aren't losing. It isn't costing them. The public chooses not to participate. The web companies can make pages not load at all if the ads are gone but they don't cause they know the public will leave them like rats leaving a sinking ship.

    1. Re:not making money is cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually there ARE some sites that will refuse to load sufficiently if the ads are blocked. I can't tell you the names of them however since I typically never go back to them, and as a result they fade into history.

    2. Re:not making money is cost? by kilfarsnar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They aren't losing. It isn't costing them. The public chooses not to participate. The web companies can make pages not load at all if the ads are gone but they don't cause they know the public will leave them like rats leaving a sinking ship.

      They don't seem to realize that they need us more than we need them. The Internet was great for making information available even before it was "monetized".

      --
      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    3. Re:not making money is cost? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Well, in an age where governments feel inclined to protect the revenues of corporations than protecting their citizens ... these companies will do the same kind of crap the *AAs did, and convince politicians that their revenue models need to be entrenched in law, and will attempt to equate ad blocking with theft.

      Corporations have a sense of entitlement, and anything which dips into their revenue they demand be outlawed.

      Mark my words, they'll try to have the technology blocked, and claim the EULA compels us to actually see their ads to keep the revenues up.

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      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    4. Re:not making money is cost? by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In a world where we're just consumers, expected to do as corporations expect, and in which they feel that revenue was their natural right ... we're just a natural resource which has suddenly decided it doesn't want to play.

      Once the corporatization of the internet happened, this became more about shareholder value.

      And in the modern context, shareholder is more important than pretty much anything. Because people like to believe shareholder value drives the economy, instead of being driven by it.

      Who cares if there are no jobs as long as they're paying dividends or stock prices keep climbing? The value to the stock market is more important than those pesky humans.

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      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    5. Re:not making money is cost? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      It is their right to do this, just as it is my right to block ads.

      If the site refuses to load, that makes it quite easy to decide to never return to it.

      --
      I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
    6. Re:not making money is cost? by Revek · · Score: 1

      You went to get your cheese somewhere else?

    7. Re:not making money is cost? by g7891107 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, everyone loves free market capitalism...until people actually start voting with their wallets and stop buying (or, in this case, stop consuming ads).

      Then, suddenly "We're losing billions". "There are thousands of jobs at stake.". "You're hurting the little guy". "Someone should do something about it!".

      You know, the usual bullshit.

      And you just know that the "doing something about it" will probably involve throwing money at governments so that they pass laws with big penalties for using ad blockers. Because advertisers sure a hell don't want to move and adapt to changing market conditions.

      So fuck'em. Adapt or die.

    8. Re:not making money is cost? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      In case you haven't seen my earlier corrections for other people, yes, the word "cost" can mean "cause the loss of".

    9. Re:not making money is cost? by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      In a world where we're just consumers, expected to do as corporations expect, and in which they feel that revenue was their natural right ... we're just a natural resource which has suddenly decided it doesn't want to play.

      Once the corporatization of the internet happened, this became more about shareholder value.

      And in the modern context, shareholder is more important than pretty much anything. Because people like to believe shareholder value drives the economy, instead of being driven by it.

      Who cares if there are no jobs as long as they're paying dividends or stock prices keep climbing? The value to the stock market is more important than those pesky humans.

      I can't really disagree. We have become myopic, short sighted and greedy, aspiring to false ideals.

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    10. Re:not making money is cost? by sudon't · · Score: 2

      If you ask me, it was better at making information available before it was commercialized. It wasn't cluttered with all this crap back then. I used to read article after article of fascinating stuff, just by following the hyperlinks, (hyperlinks!). Can't find that stuff anymore. Now, Facebook is most of the internet.

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      -- sudon't

      Air-ride Equipped

  15. GOOD!!!! by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    Business needs to change its methods. Bombarding people with advertising is unreasonable and it doesn't matter whether it is by the net, the phone, or junk mail. I can not believe that we do not at least have a common phone system that prevents advertising, sales, and charity calls from ringing my phone without my explicit and very direct, written consent. At the very least auto dialers could be sensed and blocked as could robo calls. We may have an opportunity to stop 100% of all phone sales and so-called telemarketing dead in its tracks.

  16. death to ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Global economic system is ready to die and be replaced with something better.
    We cannot use this prehistoric way anymore.

  17. Bad business models are not my problem by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have no objection of watching ads.

    Really? Because I do. I particularly object to pop-up ads, interstitial ads, large banner ads, and ANY ad that tries to track my behavior or browsing activity. Ads waste my time, intrude on my privacy and sometimes are malware vectors. I never have any interest in whatever crap they are trying to sell me so pretty much all the ads are nothing more than a waste of my time. My attention is valuable to me and I don't give it out for free. I don't buy shirts with large brands on them because I'm not being paid to promote them. If an ad company wants to pay me directly for my opinion on a product we can talk but it's going to be a direct negotiation most of the time.

    I'm willing to pay for content which I think I have a reasonable chance of finding valuable or enjoyable. I occasionally purchase/rent/go-see movies. I subscribe to some journals. I subscribe to a few websites I find valuable. But if a company wants to use ads as their primary revenue source then chances are good I'm going to block or otherwise circumvent their attempt to hijack my time and attention.

    After all, it's the bread and butter to support a lot of sites.

    Their shitty business model is not my problem. If your business depends on pushing obnoxious ads and tracking my activity then you deserve to be blocked.

    1. Re:Bad business models are not my problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their business model IS your problem. If you choose to read the site they built with their hard work, you choose to live by their business model. The same goes if you run a store and someone comes in. They can't just shoplift and say that the store's "shitty business model is not my problem." Get a clue.

      I hope someone steals from your buiness today.

    2. Re:Bad business models are not my problem by Locando · · Score: 1

      If you choose to read the site they built with their hard work, you choose to live by their business model. The same goes if you run a store and someone comes in. They can't just shoplift and say that the store's "shitty business model is not my problem." Get a clue.

      One of these things is legal; the other is not. There are reasons for that. Did you know that?

  18. Ads with sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I blame the increasing prevalence of ads that automatically play sounds. I thought that died in the 90s but it has suddenly came back. There is nothing more annoying that one of your tabs suddenly blaring a lame ad in the middle of the night or during a presentation. Slashdot its self has been a large offender of this. I have always refused to use ad blockers because I want sites to be able to monetize, but as a result of these sounds I have began using ad blockers this year.

  19. Autoplaying video ads by RogueyWon · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was the autoplaying video-adverts that flipped me over (about 6 months ago). I tolerated them when they first appeared, but once they defaulted to having the sound switched on, it was clear that the situation had gone beyond reasonable bounds.

    The advertising industry should do whatever it can to make life unpleasant for those companies that rolled out those noisy monsters. I was prepared to tolerate ads up to that point, so that particular development has cost the industry a good few ad-views (and I doubt I'm alone in having found the game of "which browser tab is making the noise" to be my breaking point).

    1. Re:Autoplaying video ads by Richard+Dick+Head · · Score: 1

      That is funny! I noticed Google Chrome now displays a sound icon when something in the tab is playing. "Hunt the noisy tab" is such a ubiquitous problem we're starting to see features to specifically address the issue.

      Before that came out I had bought a pair of headphones specifically to avoid the embarrassment of noisy ads blaring out randomly at the office. Though with AdBlock, it is not an issue anymore.

    2. Re:Autoplaying video ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well said. That is what flipped me as well.

    3. Re:Autoplaying video ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen. Mod the parent post up. I tried to tolerate the ads for as long as possible because I know that was the major source of income. But then there was a period of time when there seemed to be a deluge of sound and video ads. That killed it for me. Ad blockers on everything now. Life and websites are much sweeter.

    4. Re:Autoplaying video ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Autoplaying video ads is worse than pop-ups. I never thought I'd find something worse than pop-ups. I'm especially pissed that they are allowed to autoplay on mobile devices. Your bandwidth means nothing to these vultures.

    5. Re:Autoplaying video ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should be possible to forbid content to run in inactive tabs. That includes Flash, HTML5 stuff and JavaScript. It would be even better if I could choose to have either a blacklist or a whitelist, and then specify exceptions.

      In my case, I would choose a whitelist and allow video sites (probably just YouTube) to run content while their tabs are inactive, but I understand that others may have other requirements.

    6. Re:Autoplaying video ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was the autoplaying video-adverts that flipped me over (about 6 months ago). I tolerated them when they first appeared, but once they defaulted to having the sound switched on, it was clear that the situation had gone beyond reasonable bounds.

      This. Browsers already dealt with pop-up bullshit. Graphics, even flashing ones, don't bother me.

      But loading six goddamned shitty, browser-crashing flash videos on a single page, all with volumes turned up to one hundred and eleventy?

      Burn in hell, adscum.

    7. Re:Autoplaying video ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot was one of the few sites I use that had auto play sound. Slashdot is what converted me to adblock.

    8. Re:Autoplaying video ads by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      I'm especially pissed that they are allowed to autoplay on mobile devices. Your bandwidth means nothing to these vultures.

      Can't speak for Apple, but Android is just a mobile ad-delivery platform.

      I was quite shocked when I browsed Slashdot a few days ago on an Android tablet. Far more of the screen space was taken up with ads than stories. No wonder it's lost so many posters over the last few years as mobile usage has grown.

    9. Re:Autoplaying video ads by lexman098 · · Score: 1

      I never understood why browsers don't come with a "sound off" feature or something. I have flashblock which helps the most, but now with HTML5 this really needs to be built into the browser.

  20. Avoided ad blockers until recently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd avoided using ad blockers until recently, and I think they've been around for a few decades now.

    But you know what? These "hidden, audio-only flash ads" that interrupt my music for a car ad? Yeah, those prompted me to start blocking them. I may unblock them when I go car shopping, so I know who to avoid.

  21. Non-intrusive ads by Mascot · · Score: 2

    I wish they would focus on shifting ads away from the current "be as annoying and in your face as possible" trend, and over to more non-intrusive forms of ads. I'm sure the reason ads have become so obnoxious is that it leads to more clicks, but that so many now choose to block them might be a good indication it's time to reevaluate.

    My adblocker accepts non-intrusive ads by default. Get your ads on that whitelist and the problem is solved. Personally, I don't care about a static image or text box. I do care about blinking pop-overs with audio. Whenever I get a "we see you are running an ad-blocker, would you mind telling us why?" questionnaire from a website, I tell them the same thing.

    1. Re:Non-intrusive ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen a few sites with "we see you're running an adblocker, please consider disabling it", but never a questionnaire. I already block unwanted redirects without my permission. I also have Firebug to delete pop-over elements. And if those two fail, or if it just isn't worth messing with, I'm going to simply leave the site. Then the site gets nothing, not even the possibility that I'll recommend it to anyone else (who may or may not be running an adblocker).

      I have a zero-tolerance policy toward ads. I'm currently considering using an old computer as a pfSense router and putting Squid on it to block ads globally across my entire network, instead of the patchwork client-by-client, app-by-app method I'm using now.

    2. Re:Non-intrusive ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have different definitions of "intrusive". If websites generate traffic that I did not ask for, then I consider them intrusive. That is why I block third-party content by default (using RequestPolicy Continued).

  22. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's why we don't use adblock plus or adblock edge or whatever the fuck it's called now.

    We use ublock origin, umatrix, betterprivacy, https everywhere and privacy badger.

  23. This is going to screw those who don't use them by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    Just as downloading music screwed those of us that didn't.

    1. Re:This is going to screw those who don't use them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope this is meant sarcastically. If it weren't for rampant piracy, the record labels would never have agreed to things like iTunes or Pandora. We would still be buying a $20 album for one song we wanted, instead of buying just that song for $1.

  24. I add adblockers to everyone's PC I touch. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    At work we block ad's company wide. Allowing online Adverts is a giant security flaw.

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    1. Re:I add adblockers to everyone's PC I touch. by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Why can't this be done at the firewall level? Even an in-line networking appliance specific to the task would be worth while.

      --
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    2. Re:I add adblockers to everyone's PC I touch. by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      Don't encourage him - he'll be posting about his hosts, firewall rules package that is so much better than uBlock, AB+, etc etc

      There are things like this, people are complaining about Windows 10 need to send lots of data to MS, there is a WRT router script that has blocking rules set up for them, IIRC. You'll have to google for it though.. but here's a quick result to get you started

    3. Re:I add adblockers to everyone's PC I touch. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should it? adblocks are available at a single click. Fucking around with ipchains isn't what most techs do, so there's zero chance it'll be done by the masses on a locked down ISP supplied router. Add to that, blocking ads feeds back into the central cunt list which benefits everyone else. Your dweeb idea does not.

  25. because we're sick of this shit. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While most americans may be content with things like the 'welcome back we'll be right back' nature of television and radio, its actually a pretty glaring annoyance for the rest of us. turning everything into a commodity is a very recent notion, and not one I might add that many people care for.

    I block routes to known advertising servers, and i use the firefox microblock plugin for anything else. what advertisers often completely neglect is that theyre on my bandwidth. I pay the bill, i decide the content, end of discussion. the ads are often just another vector for exploits in the browser. The product almost never pertains to me, and i dont want it to. I dont want advertisers dickriding me into the sunset trying to exploit my personal interests. Instead when and if i need a product i want advertisers to focus on what the product does, and how well it does it. Do not pander endlessly about how good or noble a person im to become if i dole out cash for the product.

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    1. Re:because we're sick of this shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The product almost never pertains to me, and i dont want it to. I dont want advertisers dickriding me into the sunset trying to exploit my personal interests. Instead when and if i need a product i want advertisers to focus on what the product does, and how well it does it. Do not pander endlessly about how good or noble a person im to become if i dole out cash for the product.

      Well said.

  26. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh...that post doesn't make any sense. Time for some English class brosky!

  27. They asked us to punch the monkey... and we did. by sinij · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They asked us to punch the monkey... and we did. What do they expect with dropper-infested, bandwidth-hogging, slow-loading, auto-play with sound enabled "advertising" they keep showing on us?

    They turned cable into never-ending commercials, people responded by record-and-skip and cable-cutting. They turned media sites into never-ending commercials, people responded by blacklisting and blocking advertising. I think the advertising industry shows clear pattern of shitting the bed, as such this is of their own making.

  28. Loss == Save by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, why don't people talk about how much snake oil salesmen have lost ever since "snake oil" started being associated with worthless crap marketed fraudulently.

    Using the word "loss" ignores the fact that the earlier revenue was ill-gotten in the first place. It's not a loss: it's a savings. The economy is going to save $21.8 billion in 2015 by ceasing to waste money on crap that would otherwise just make people unhappier.

  29. Note to Advertisers - Stop Breaking the Internet! by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 1

    This finding is a big, blinking, sound-enabled, GIF-filled page full of caution signs webpage for advertisers that their operational model is NOT WANTED.

    They don't seem to be seeing it.

    Maybe they have a common sense blocker?

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  30. Places like Slashdot made me block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They put in AUTO PLAY AUDIO which is really annoying. Glitchy ads that crash my browser. Regular targeted banner ads I don't mind, but they have to
    make really annoying.

    1. Re:Places like Slashdot made me block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot has ads?

  31. Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A lot of the ads reduce page load time. The most annoying ones are the flash ones. I installed an adblocker specifically because of the flash ads on Slashdot. The tracking is especially creepy.

  32. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're projecting your issues with illiteracy. I read and understood it perfectly.

  33. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, I'm of two minds on this subject. I have never installed adblock and its ilk, because I know that "free" content comes at a cost. So as much as possible I sit through commercials from network TV's streamed shows, I allow sidebar ads to populate some screen real estate on websites, etc.

    But I have my limits.

    • I don't feel guilty at all about skipping past ads more than 30 seconds long
    • I will do everything I can to block ad content that changes my browser's behavior (e.g., pop-up messages, float divisions that obscure the page content, etc.)
    • I will block ad content that takes up more than half my browser real estate

    I suppose in the end that makes me no better than folks who aggressively block every single advertisement in any form -- "We already established what kind of woman you are; now we're just negotiating on the price". But it helps me sleep better at night knowing I'm at least willing to try to give them some of my attention in return for free content.

  34. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whats the difference with Dan Pollock's hosts file? http://someonewhocares.org/hos...

  35. Most ads are pure shit by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

    Let's see. In most sites I visit, I noticed that most of the content is tied to ads functions or unknow "affiliate sites". Usually I count more than ten scripts whose function is unclear at least and the overwhelming majority of ads shown is in the style of "Clean My PC" shit. And still they have the courage to complain when I block mercilessly this malware vector?

    --
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  36. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by konohitowa · · Score: 1

    Your English was much better this time, brosky. Keep working on it.

  37. Unfair by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Rise in insect repellent use costs malarial mosquitos millions of gallons of blood and new disease victims.

  38. What did they expect? by jandersen · · Score: 1

    Advertising is necessary, to be sure - up to a point. As a business, you have to attract customers, no doubt, and to do that, you have to advertise. But there a huge difference between putting a small, factual advert in a few, strategic places, and spurting out a deluge of mindless shite over everybody. That sort of advertising is simply immoral in so many ways - and I use the word 'immoral' very deliberately, because I think it is also a moral issue.

    The enormous amounts of adverts tend to drown out any coherent message there might be, not to mention the actual content of many websites. Most adverts are at best irrelevant noise, at worst blatant lies and in any case unproductive, and therefore worthless to the companies paying for them.

    This is also a moral issue, IMO, for many reasons; one thing is the large part of advertising that is shamelessly fraudulent, but there are also issues like encouraging (or even bullying) people into wasting their money and sometimes health on unnecessary comsumption, as well as luring businesses into wasting their money on worthless advertising. Advertising agencies are for a very large part nothing more than parasites, and the sooner we get rid of them, the better.

    And just to have it said - I do know the arguments about 'nobody forces people to ...'; not true, simply. It is very easy to see the direct connection from massive advertising campaigns that encourage drinking amoungst young people, to the increasing trend towards young people binge drinking every weekend. Producers of things like alcohol and sugary or fatty consumables, and companies like loan sharks and betting shops, deliberately target the most vulnerable, contributing to a culture of mindless consumption and indirectly to peer-pressure; after all, who wants to be seen as un-cool - a lentil eating outsider?

  39. For those who think ad are ok by houghi · · Score: 1

    For those who think ad are ok:

    âoePeople are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply youâ(TM)re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.

    âoeYou, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.

    âoeFuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. Itâ(TM)s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.

    âoeYou owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially donâ(TM)t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, donâ(TM)t even start asking for theirs.â
    â" banksy

    --
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  40. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No need to copy/paste your shit and change the product name, you lunatic dipshit.

  41. Re: Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts works but it doesn't block all ads. It only blocks by using hosts. AB blocks URLs and works over HTTPS. Advertisers are getting smarter...

    I use host blocks on my router but still use AB on my browser for maximum effect.

  42. Sadly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sadly this study docent tell how much all those unwanted advertisement bandwidth would have cost to internet users..

    1. Re:Sadly by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      Sadly this study docent tell how much all those unwanted advertisement bandwidth would have cost to internet users..

      On a DSL/cable/fiber connection ? Maybe a few cents per month if you include HD video ads. On wired connection, most of the cost getting you access to the internet. After this, bandwidth is super cheap, especially if CDNs are used, like most advertisers do.
      It is a bit more for mobile data considering that the EM spectrum is a much more limited resource. So maybe a dollar or two per month for heavy users (with video).

      I am talking about bandwidth costs for the ISP, not how it actually changes your bill. But the end result should be this assuming a neutral ISP (i.e. not affiliated with an ad network).

  43. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

    probably that *one* little host IP that is left unblocked .....

    At least that's what I think of when I read that nonsense of a post advocating APK, it just reads like a scam email.

  44. My machine - my rules. by devslash0 · · Score: 1

    They somehow believe that our screens are yet another billboard on the e-road. Just like those big blinking street banners in America. Flashing right into your windows days and night. Equally unrelated content that someone thinks is better for us. I really do not need enlarging any parts of my body. They are already big enough :3 But beware! A new sales person has recently joined the hood. His name is Windows 10.

  45. Workarounds always cost someone billions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like the complaints from the Thieves Guild, remember?

    Back when people first started carrying credit cards and the Thieves could no longer make money just by grabbing people by the ankles, holding them up, and shaking them until the money fell out of their pockets.

  46. Damn by Tailhook · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not happy about this. Now that "normals" have slouched onto the blocker band wagon the ad pushers will develop more aggressive techniques plus deny content to blocker users (more than they do already.) Blockers only worked because they weren't popular; there are a LOT more ad-mongers than there are blocker makers.

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    1. Re:Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, at the end of the day, the ad-blockers have a trump card to play: simply download all the ads and NOT display them. By downloading the ads, there's no fundamental difference (e.g. in the log files) between an ad-watcher and an ad-blocker.

    2. Re:Damn by Falos · · Score: 1

      Sister post has a point, in that we ultimately control the browser device.

      Counterpoint: Major OSs, browsers, and websites will become increasingly obnoxious in the same arena. This being motivated by the flood of normals.

      CCP: The anonymous masses will develop counter-countermeasures, more out of normals' reach. Likely endgame is two-way whackamole, an arms race that results in a katamari of standards and tools, and a spectrum of control. Corporate can't completely win, but normals can't keep up.

      Sort of how piracy already is.

    3. Re:Damn by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up. I was going to make the same suggestion -- blockers that go "stealth", pretend to load the ad and don't display it or run its filthy malware-laden scripts.

      I've never used an ad-blocker, but I do use NoScript. Occasionally I go to one of those gadzillions of web pages with several dozen different scripts from different domains, where I don't know which ones I have to enable in order to see the content, so I hit "temporarily allow all", and I get one of those horrific "jump in your face and scream a sales pitch at you" abominations... Usually when I'm up late and my wife's asleep... So I'm beginning to reconsider not just blocking ads altogether.

    4. Re:Damn by Tailhook · · Score: 2

      download all the ads and NOT display them

      All that does is un-shit the page appearance. You're still exposed to vulnerabilities due to a larger attack surface while communicating with ad servers, you still incur the bandwidth use, memory use and extra latency, and your tracking profile is much higher.

      It's not just about hating on marketing; it's also about resources, speed, security and profile.

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    5. Re:Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you describe is impossible. There will always be a way to block the ads until the day owning a general purpose computer is illegal and obtaining one too difficult, The more likely endgame is an internet full of paywalls and free (as in not for profit) content. I think I could live with that,

    6. Re:Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb and wrong... let's break it down.

      "Now that "normals" have slouched onto the blocker band wagon the ad pushers will develop more aggressive techniques plus deny content to blocker users (more than they do already.)"

      Yes, they will develop more aggressive techniques, that is true, unfortunately it is irrelevant. Security/privacy is a constant battle, every time virus makers develop new viruses, anti-virus makers develop new techniques to detect and remove said viruses. That pattern will repeat over and over until the end of time. I do not see why advertising/ad blocking would be any different. "Ad-mongers" (as you call them) will develop more aggressive methods of displaying ads... THEN... ad blockers will develop more sophisticated methods to detect and block those ads.

      Blocking content for Adblock users is fine when they are a small percentage.... The more Adblock usage grows the harder it becomes to block. Imagine 40-50% of your users had AdBlock... Would you risk alienating them? Or would you try find an alternative way to engage with them? (Note: Adblock plus by default does not block certain types of ads served from your own domain, it only aims to block intrusive ads).

      "Blockers only worked because they weren't popular; there are a LOT more ad-mongers than there are blocker makers."

      Blockers at their core work on a very basic principal -- if a particular resource matches a pattern from a list of known advertising patterns: don't download or display it -- their popularity is irrelevant to their efficacy.

      You also have to consider that advertisers and their disgusting obtrusive ads exist OUTSIDE of my browser, my computer and my network. It doesn't matter if there are 100 or a trillion ad-mongers... Ad blockers will always have an advantage as they are locked and loaded in my browser before any web page is even loaded.

  47. I only used it because.... by adric22 · · Score: 1

    I only use it for 2 reasons. One is because the ads have become so intrusive and annoying. No longer is it good enough to put a banner ad on the page. But now it has to take over my entire browser window and run 100 scripts that slow my browsing experience down (especially since I use older computers) but they also can't seen to get control of the malware issue. Again, if they wouldn't allow all of the scripts then malware wouldn't even be an issue.

  48. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does your hosts file magic automatically block your constant shitposting?

  49. It's always killed. by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't kill the goose that laid the golden egg, but it's always killed. So be it.

  50. Ad-block Success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good. And I hope ad blocker use continues to go up. The day you stop trying to bombard me with fake anti-malware scans and loud ass pop-up adds (seriously this is 2015) is the day I stop using it. Also, nobody likes commercials and never have. People have always wanted a way to skip commercials and now we have a way. Advertising is an archaic practice and it needs to evolve with the rest of us. As far as I'm concerned it's all just spam and it needs to go away, forever.

  51. Advertisers blew it by swb · · Score: 1

    They could have woken up and realized that part of the reason Google's services did so well was that they presented a certain amount of advertising in a non-disruptive way.

    Instead, they decided that blinking, audio, video, flash, javascript, animations, interstitials, anything that could be made as annoying as a six year old who wants attention was the right model.

    Then they didn't mind their content and made it too easy for malware to get injected into their highly automated processes to boot.

    And now they complain about ad blockers? Do they even realize how obnoxious their ads are?

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  53. For Those About To Block... by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    We Salute You!!!

  54. K-Blocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The next frontier of blocking is unwanted contents. Ex. Kardashians.

  55. Why is Google the leading search engine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When there was no Google, opening a search also opened numerous giant blinking banner ads.

    Google invented (or was the first to use on grand scale) targeted advertising. The advertisers get audience who actually followed the links and the viewers were interested.

    That is why they became the leading search engine,

    But most publishers still don't get it. They think more blinking, disturbing read flow, video, voice or showing remarketing ads (when I look at a website, see that I don't like product, don't spoil me with it again) will gain them anything.

    But the only thing the get is another install of an ad blocker.

  56. False narrative by andyring · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An ad blocker "costs" an advertiser NOTHING. The whole narrative is wrong.

    Is ad revenue reduced? Yes. But that is not a cost. It's a reduction in income or a reduction in gross receipts. A "cost" is when your expenses increase, not when your revenue decreases.

    1. Re:False narrative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That depends on how the ads are blocked and what costs you're looking at.

      If they're never loaded in the first place (e.g. ABP on firefox), then it costs the advertisers nothing. If the advertisements are loaded but not displayed (I think this is how the blockers for chrome worked, at least when I last used chrome), then there is a small but distinctly non-zero cost incurred by the advertiser in the form of bandwidth.

      If an advertisement is pay-per-view instead of pay-per-click, then blockers might generate false views (depending on the implementation of the blocker and how views are tracked), which would have a higher cost. It's probably orders of magnitude smaller than the "cost" they're reporting in lowered revenue.

    2. Re:False narrative by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If they're never loaded in the first place (e.g. ABP on firefox), then it costs the advertisers nothing. If the advertisements are loaded but not displayed (I think this is how the blockers for chrome worked, at least when I last used chrome), then there is a small but distinctly non-zero cost incurred by the advertiser in the form of bandwidth.

      Chrome has been altered since those days so that an ad blocker has a chance to rewrite the page before it is rendered, and thus before all those downloads happen. I believe that there are still some times when a script element will put something into the page, and then it loads partially before not being displayed. But that's really the fault of the ad network; there's no need for javascript to insert an ad, and doing crap like that slows down page rendering, so I want to discourage it anyway and therefore it's only a problem for me as far as I'm concerned; inconveniencing people who overuse Javascript is part of the plan because they are inconveniencing me.

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  57. NY and CA relevant how? by cmdrxizor · · Score: 1

    Given how the population of the US is ~319 million, 45 million is almost 15% of the total US population. Therefore, I'm not sure what the summary (or the article itself, which doesn't provide any further detail) is trying to achieve by stating that almost 15% of people "in states like NY and California" use ad blockers -- saying they are statistically average compared to the other 48 states seems to add no value. To me, it would be more interested to know how much variation there is between states.

  58. Re:You'll like this: It imports that... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But no OSX support?
    Why not just put the generated hosts file on the web?

  59. Sea change on mobile. by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

    It will be interesting to see what happens when ios9 is released. It includes the capability to block ads cuz you can install an ad blocker in mobile safari. I'm sure that android has had options for a while, but iOS is a large market share and valuable cuz demographics. Also, I imagine it's a techie process to install on android, while maybe they can make it one-tap easy to install on iOS. Don't worry, I'm sure iAds won't be blocked...

  60. Start referring to it as web spam or ad spam by schwit1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Adverts are little different than the email spam that used to clog many an inbox. Adblockers are no different than spam filters.

  61. Bad User Experience by redshirt · · Score: 1

    These advertisers have simply overwhelmed and saturated the user experience of so many web properties to the point where they aren't tolerable. Try to going to any wikia.com site without adblock and see how slowly it loads and how impossible it is use the site. Frankly, slashdot is among the worst offenders. I just visited halo.wikia.com and ABP reported 25 blocked adverts. It's pretty much out of control. I mean fuck, shit, cock, ass, titties, boner, bitch, muff, pussy, cunt, butthole, Barbra Streisand!

  62. Invalid Numbers by edibobb · · Score: 1

    Ad block software will not cost publishers publishers $21.8 billion in 2015. Those numbers are invalid because (1) many ad block users would avoid some sites they normally visit if they had to suffer through ads, (2) the incremental traffic from ad block users will not likely generate a proportional amount of sales for advertisers, and (3) advertisers will not like pay a proportionally higher amount if ad block software was not used.

  63. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by bigfinger76 · · Score: 1

    The irony of unblockable spam posts being used to push adblocking software.

  64. Nobody ever said... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    Nobody ever said it is your right to make money on the internet. If you want to post information, pay for hosting, that is your business. You are not guaranteed to make a profit doing so. The internet is there for sharing information, not for making money.

    --
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  65. How things are paid for by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    We decided, a long time ago, that the web would be supported by advertising. Other business models are possible, and were explored, but subsequently abandoned. So be it.

    OK, so show me good ads. Cut the "weird trick" ads. Lose the pop-ups, lose the auto-play videos, lose the bad HTML that makes web pages fidget and bounce around while the browser figures out what size your image really is. Lose the web pages that never finish loading. And please lose the Flash ads that freeze the entire browser.

    When I loaded this page I got a BMW ad, an ad for a camera store and an ad for shoes. I can deal with that.

    ...laura

    1. Re:How things are paid for by JohnFen · · Score: 2, Informative

      We decided, a long time ago, that the web would be supported by advertising.

      Who is this "we"? I wasn't given a vote, and I certainly don't agree. Ad blocking is a reasonable defense against the ongoing attacks from ad companies.

    2. Re:How things are paid for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We decided, a long time ago, that the web would be supported by advertising.

      So you decided that... don't expect any thanks for that.

    3. Re:How things are paid for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "web would be supported by advertising"
      where do you come up with this "fact"?

    4. Re:How things are paid for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is akin to saying
      "We decided, a long time ago, that the email would be supported by spamming."
      which is bullshit of the same exact degree.

    5. Re:How things are paid for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed.

  66. Of course they have increased by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they will increase even further if the anti-adblock crowd keeps giving adblock techniques free publicity.

  67. skipping 1984, going straight to 1985 by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    waaaaiiiitttt... I thought we solved this problem with a tax on blank cassette tapes. Sounds like you're proposing allowing double-dipping here, mate.

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  68. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pot calling a kettle black. You're off topic. You can't prove apk wrong.

  69. due to annoyance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop making your ads so fucking annoying and we will stop blocking them.

  70. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're an off topic troll that can't prove apk wrong.

  71. Gee... by jonr · · Score: 1

    I wonder why.

    My latest ad hate: Play some Android game on silent in bed, level ends, game blasts video ad on full volume. Not sure who to hatemail.

  72. text can work by swell · · Score: 1

    I see ads; text ads. Google itself inserts text ads in some places. They work, I sometimes read them, sometimes follow a link. But pop-up ads, videos, slide shows, obstructive banners and any visual or audible noise are banned. Tracking web bugs and many scripts are banned. Often sites don't work for me because of this, so I just leave. Other than my bank and very few other businesses, all sites are disposable.

    Advertisers are hurting themselves as well as those of us who have to suffer them. Sensible text ads can work, and they are very hard to block.

    Does anyone here remember Burma Shave ads along rural highways?
    http://theshaveden.com/forums/...
      Everyone loved them, cute little rhymes that concluded with a reminder to buy their product. Creativity in advertising today seems to be a matter of producing bigger, more obnoxious noise. There is much that can still be done with a whisper.

    --
    ...omphaloskepsis often...
  73. I'm Doing Them a Favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I avoid companies that use advertising and marketing that I find offensive to my intellect. I don't mean using sex to sell beer, I mean stuff like an endless barrage of cartoons and character actresses selling me something as important as insurance.

    Or selling me drugs with a disclaimer for side affects that sounds like a death certificate, and all for a made up illness.

    Blocking the ads also blocks me from knowing how shitty your company is.

  74. Reason for installing ad blocker. by jcochran · · Score: 1

    I didn't use any ad blockers until I encountered a page with information I needed and the page had an ad on it... That after about a minute would start playing a video AND shift the browser focus to that video. I would have to then stop the video and then scroll down the page to where I was before I was so rudely interrupted. And since that process took close to a minute (it was a very large page with a lot of dense information), I would only get 10 to 20 seconds or reading before the damn ad once again restarted and shifted focus. So ad blocker was installed and since I'm a lazy son of a bitch, I don't bother to turn it off on other pages that act responsibly. So In a nutshell, one asshole advertiser resulted in the blocking of every advertiser on my computer.

  75. I use ad-block software, but not for blocking ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't have a problem with websites trying to "monitize" page views to pay for upkeep.
    I don't even have a problem with websites trying to "monitize" page views to make some money.

    The reason I use ad-blocking software is that I do not wish my web-browsing activities to be used to "profile" me (for what ever reason), and I do not give permission to third-party web-pages to make money off of my web-browsing patterns. (dobuleclick, google, scorecard, et. al, this means you).

    Most advertisements are served up by third-parties, who pay websites for my referral, and acquire their "saleable assets" directly from me. I prefer not to participate in this sort of hidden, voluntary invasion of my privacy. That means I don't visit advertisers directly, and I don't permit my web-browser to visit them as directed by the web sites I visit.

  76. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can APK block APK spam posts about APK?

    Your idea of marketing is incredible. Or retarded... Or incredibly retarded.

  77. Where is the money coming from? by zedaroca · · Score: 1
    Are they saying that companies would spend 21 - 41 billion more on advertising if people didn't block ads?

    Considering the fact that ads are paid for when shown, and that companies have a limited amount of money to spend on advertising, showing more ads would only mean that the price per ad would be lower. In the same way, if it's harder to show ads for people, they can cost more.
    It makes no sense to claim that people who live from showing ads on their websites (here called publishers) would make more money, or have increased costs, because of ad-blocking. The only difference on costs are bandwidth, that isn't that expensive anyway (and can be passed from the publishers to the advertisers).

  78. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your off topic trollery isn't proving apk wrong on hosts. It's helping him.

  79. Re:LOL - that's the "best ya got"? by penandpaper · · Score: 1

    So, your idea is to spam and anyone that doesn't like it or criticize your spam is a sock-puppet???

    You sir are a special kind of stupid. Honestly, I could care less about technical validity if you present yourself like a warthog in heat.

    Why would anyone choose an anti-spam/maleware/phish solution that markets itself by spam/maleware/phish?

  80. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  81. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  82. comment subjects are dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > A report from Adobe and anti-ad blocking startup PageFair says the numbers of surface dwellers who have caught on about ad blockers has increased

    You're welcome, normals.

    Strictly speaking, I guess it's a positive? That your facetweets and ledditblrgrams and tubeclogging streams are a better experience. I might need to consult game theory or something.

  83. Re: Hosts work on OS X... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Indy, synapse or rolled your own winsock?

  84. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  85. All advertisements are malicious by cfalcon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, trust us, this is a good ad.

    Those ads that hack your monitor, by taking up all the space? No, we promise this one won't do that. Oh no, we won't sign our name to it, or a sign a document saying so. But trust us, this ad won't hack your monitor. It uses up only some of the space, not all of it.

    Those ads that hack your browser, by popping up or popping under? No, we promise this one won't do that. Oh no, we won't promise or be accountable, but this one doesn't ignore browser settings like that.

    Those ads that hack your inputs, by spoofing a close icon, or tying events to it? Or by looking like a system message? No, we promise this one won't do that. Of course, it could, at any moment, if our jobs depend on it or we are paid off, but we promise it's a good ad.

    No, this is a good advertisement.

    It's designed to hack just YOU. You should allow this to happen. You believe that only gullible or weakminded humans are affected by advertisements. We believe otherwise, and we spend millions of dollars on this topic, but you're probably right. It probably won't hack you. It's just designed that way, crafted by decades of doctorates, trial and errorred in a multibillion dollar industry. That model of a homunculus in your head is probably correct. You aren't even gonna be affected by this advertisement. After all, if you could be affected by the advertisment, then it would mean you are a human. And humans clearly aren't affected by those, just as long as they are strong willed and intelligent. No, no study has ever shown that correlation, but trust us.
    This advertisement will just hack you. It will create a sense of fear, and offer to calm you. It will create a sense of dissatisfaction, and attempt to satisfy it. Were you hungry? Did you have a need to eat? Here's a picture of some food. And people enjoying food. I'm sure that has no affect on you. Here's a picture of a willing mate, a happy family, some offspring. Certainly you aren't some emotional wet robot that is subject to this.

    I'll just put all this ball of mind poison right here. It won't pop up, pop under, be boring, be annoying, ring bells, have a fake close key, stutter, install a toolbar, or anything else.

    No, this is a good ad.

    It just hacks *you*.

    Especially if you don't think that's possible. Please don't think that's possible, or you might question this whole thing.

  86. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    +

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  87. Ghostery = 'souled-out' & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on Ghostery doing all that let alone as well as hosts do!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ClarityRay DETECTS browser addons like Ghostery & blocks them (not hosts) via native browser methods.

    What's better than ghostery by FAR?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  88. No shit. by ponraul · · Score: 1

    If you spend any applicable amount of time online, you just get tired of every web page looking like times square. The more shocking thing here is that advertisers are surprised that people don't want to be sold to.

  89. Grins Wide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If everyone installed an ad blocker google would die :)

    I can't wait!

  90. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by iONiUM · · Score: 2

    I think the question you need to ask yourself is when you're on your death-bed will you think, "boy, I sure do feel guilty for viewing all those corporate websites and blocking the ads and thus, their potential revenue", or "boy, I sure do wish I had all that time back I spent watching ads, being distracted by ads, closing pop-ups."

    For me, the only valuable resource in the entire universe is my time. And I will fight very hard to protect it.

  91. Anti-Ad Block by Errorcod3 · · Score: 1

    Surprised it has not taken companies longer to deny content to the user if ad-block is detected.
    I have seen several sites that have a paragraph where the ads have been blocked stating that they won't get money if you block their ads.
    It is awesome to see the awareness and number of users utilizing ad blockers, however there will be a point when the sites will have to figure it out to force to you see advertisements.

    *On another note - Black Mirror had a great episode on advertisements and making people pay to not watch them.

    1. Re:Anti-Ad Block by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah I still don't really understand the ending of that episode.

      But at least you had the option to skip if you had the money but there are plenty of companies that just flat out don't want your money.

      Ever heard of hulu plus? They won't even take your worthless money.

      Any cable/satellite tv company/most websites? news sites are especially bad because most still show ads even if you are a subscriber.

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  92. I block ads and save them money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've self targeted by avoiding ads as much as possible, meaning the fools complaining are the companies running the advertising campaigns. So they don't make as much money - Yea. Means the cost of a product I actually use should be cheaper as the company doesn't need to spend money on marketing that doesn't work.

    Captcha's have been appropriate for the last week - today's was : Against

  93. Come at me, bro. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tear the ads out of the magazines I read and go to the bathroom during commercials.

  94. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be new on the internet.

    There was an age when people generated the content. Wrote articles, stories, guides etc and put them online at their own cost. Not for profit, but because they wanted to share their knowledge. That was when the hardware and bandwidth were incredibly expensive.

    How have things changed in the past 15 years? Those people still do the same, and some might actually make some profit, but then we have the other 98% of the websites which shamelessly copy the content not just from the original users, but from each other and force feed it to people praising it for it's uniqueness and prompt delivery.

    Look at news websites to see the future. Problem is ... everyone sees the internet as an easy way to make money and I think Futurama had the best take on it's far future.

  95. Re:LOL - that's the "best ya got"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    P.S.=> I love it when you fools (doubtless adblock sockpuppets paid to do so) vainly try these effete off topic ad hominem attacks + unjustifiable downmods that never ever prove my points validly technically wrong (impossible to do to the truth & verifiable facts I post from reputable sources)... YOU'RE MAKING MY CASE & PROVING MY POINTS FOR ME IN YOUR DOING SO, LOL... apk

    Delusionally paranoid schizophrenic much? Take your meds, dude. Nobody cares what your points are because you are incessantly posting the same copy/paste, off-topic rant. You are a screaming idiot who, regardless of the merits of your statements, is grating to listen to.

  96. Taboola and Other "Promoted Content" Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I started ad-blocking back when ads became animated or when pop-ups/pop-unders appeared. Whichever came first. The blocking was to take out both eventually.

    Now it's Taboola and other "Promoted Content" garbage. I'd be willing to bet a large sum that the surge in ad blocking can trace to "promoted content" now. The net is infected with the disgusting pictures and beyond idiotic click-bait headlines that are linked from this crap. I see these links everywhere now, no matter how big the site.

    Not to mention alot of people are on mobile devices... When my bandwidth is metered, as it is on my mobile, I consider it bandwidth theft to shove ads over my connection without my permission. I will go out of my way to block those. Maybe other people feel the same way.

  97. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2

    I agree completely. I'm OK with seeing a few ads if they support the free content I want to access. If that's the business model we're going with, then so be it. Slashdot itself broke my own camel's back, though, with the amount of crap I saw even after I clicked "Ads Disabled" (because of the amount of crap I was seeing). My decision was reinforced after the most recent monthly session of Dad Cleans Up The Kids' Gaming PC from all the junkware they'd installed (my youngest is 7; sometimes he doesn't make the best choices).

    Sorry, ad industry. I was willing to work with you but you made it too hard to accept. This is your own fault.

    --
    Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  98. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is also a troll. Why would you choose any software solution when the only interaction you have with it spam?

  99. Hmmm. by sims+2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets say I have a website about cats. lets say it gets 1m views a day
    I put a banner ad up at the top that gives people seizures that should pay 1k/mo for 1m views
    The addition of advertising to my website causes my daily view count to drop to about 800k
    So now it only pays 800/mo. this still pays for server maintenance and bandwidth.
    But I want a new Dice bobble head doll so I add a bunch of pop under,pop up,redirects and sponsored content.
    This makes the view count drop down to 500k but now 97% of users use adblock so I only make $15/mo on the 15k users that don't know how or are unable to use adblock.

    So to compensate I add even more offensive advertising (and some malware redirects for good measure) to my website that pays better.
    But the stats don't change much and I make much less than when I started out.

    Now 490K People use adblock that didn't use adblock before.
    Thus I have irreparably damaged my user base as even if I go back to just the one banner ad I will never be able to get as much as I did with that single banner ad when I started out.

    Plus those adblock users now block ads everywhere not just my site which increases the percentage of adblock users on other websites even those without obtrusive advertising which in turn causes their ad revenue to go down.

    Oh woe is me those thieving ablock users should have just put up with cryptowall, malware, popups, pop unders, redirects,sponsored cats, nasty and annoying advertising.

    Its all the adblocking users fault its certainly not anything that I have done.

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    Minimum threshold fixed. Thanks!
  100. Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course it's completely ridiculous to claim that someone is costing you money because they modified their software (THEIR SOFTWARE THAT YOU DON'T MAKE) to skip connections to a list of hosts.

    But it's also ridiculous to claim that someone has hacked you because they noticed your URL pattern and pulled all of your records with it.

  101. Haven't been using it recently, but might by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Am finding these p3rvy autoloud vids to be way too much.

    Might have to install Ad-Blocker

    --
    -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
  102. Attn: Slashdot editors by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    You should know that posting these kinds of stories is like screaming, "beetlejuice! beetlejuice! beetlejuice!" in a crowded forum.

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  103. Winsock2 vs. *NIX sockets diffs... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: "Hand-rolled" resolved already. Working changing drive letters vs. mounted devices (FAR easier to do).

    APK

    P.S.=> I'm also adding in more filters vs. false postives (vs. falsely blocking say, antivirus companies or VS. hostfiles being 'bushwhacked' also, which IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR MALWARE TO DO WHILE MY PROGRAM RUNS since it protects hosts while its resident, OR if important sites like search engines get messed with OR if windows update sites get blocked maliciously by malware, etc. - et al)... apk

  104. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody's ever proved apk wrong, good enough for me http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

  105. Whinning fucking merkins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because they cant milk every last dollar they believe they are entitled to!

  106. I love you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'Nuff said

  107. Greed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I signed up for a free one week subscription on Hulu to try and catch up on some old South Park. Even with the premium service, Hulu forces you to sit through constant ads. For one episode of South Park, I counted at least six ad slots running between 80 to 160 seconds a piece. They show an ad before the show, they show an ad after the intro to the show, and then repeated others during what I assume were the on-air commercial breaks. I do have uBlock running, so while I don't actually see the ads it is still really annoying to have to repeatedly see a black screen telling me how ads help Hulu provide their streaming service for a low subscription fee. $8 a month is hardly a low enough fee to continuously bombard me with ads throughout something I'm paying to watch. Hulu is a joint venture between Comcast, Fox, and Disney so the idea that they need to use ads while charging a subscription is a blatant money grab. I'm definitely going to be canceling my subscription before the trial is over. Why they don't just increase the price to say $10 a month and remove all the ads is beyond me. Knowing the groups involved, they probably will increase the price and continue to show just as many ads.

    1. Re:Greed by asimons04 · · Score: 1

      Same here. I signed up for Hulu+ and paid for a month (No free trial? Really?) because I thought I would be getting an ad-free experience. I watched maybe two episodes of something before I rage-quit due to being bombarded with ads. For all the good it did, I even wrote in the comments when I canceled that the paid tier should not have ads.

  108. Why we love adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We love autoplaying videos... in new browser windows... not
    We love the possibility that a benign advertizer has been compromised and is now slinging malware (Looking at you, yahoo)... not.
    We love being tracked... not

    And that is just when staying on legit sites like, say, slashdot.

    Go to more dubious places, like a page in austria about tuning sofas or places hosting photograpic documentaries on the human form, you'd be mad to go there without adblock and noscript. And once you do have your protections on you'll even notice that sites load up faster. Even legit sites. So why would anyone go back to using the web raw ?

    Adblock makes the web a better, nicer, safer place for the consumer. Advertizers feeling miffed about this are invited to surf the web without adblock for day, then do a scan for malware - if their PC still let's 'em.

  109. Attack from the other direction by chilenexus · · Score: 1

    Someone should explain to the folks paying for the advertisements that when you have visually intrusive ads, ads that start playing sound, or ads that obscure the content, there's only two options available to the person viewing the page: close the tab right away, or use an ad blocker. The more intrusive and annoying the ad, the more likely I am to harbor bad feelings about product being advertised, stop buying their crap, and will bad-mouth their products all over social media. Likewise, someone should explain to the sites that hosting the ads that allowing keyword ads and things that bring up popups while browsing the site may pay you more per visitor, but it also assures that I'll not be visiting your site to see those ads. Would you prefer $.02 per visitor for 200 visitors, or %.01 per visitor for 10,000 visitors? As far as the people that create the ad software itself, they really don't give a fuck if it harms your experience with the site you are visiting, or how their tactics harm the perception of the advertisers - they only care about getting their number of ads served as high as possible so their paycheck is bigger, even if it is actual malware they are serving. That many folks would take great joy in working them over with a baseball bat isn't a deterrent. The only way to really get them to change is to attack their pocketbook.

    1. Re:Attack from the other direction by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      There are a number of domains that people post links to on Facebook that I've banned from my newsfeed because of their evil scream-in-your-face ad behavior. Yeah. Make the ads on your page offensive enough, and I'll ban your whole domain and never go to it again. (It helps that the sites that do this are pretty solidly all crap sites anyway.)

  110. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by barakn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't you think it's ironic you have, on this article alone, plastered at least a half-dozen spam posts that are essentially ads. Do you have anything that would let us block you?

    --
    "I'm so moist I'm sticking to the leather." -Kermit the Frog on The Late Late Show
  111. This may be sexist but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Men come with a built in ability to tune out nagging. It was only a matter of time before we learned how to tune out ads as well.

  112. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by bigfinger76 · · Score: 1

    Nice try, APK.

  113. Time wasted removing malware requires adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, anyone who is de facto tech support for anyone on the PC platform has had to remove the best of crapware, so once that redirect is finally found and removed, adblock goes on the machine.

    It is only partly about ads....the malicious nonsense with them requires defense.

  114. Re:LOL - that's the "best ya got"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > doubtless adblock sockpuppets paid to do so

    Give me a fucking break. You're a classic example of a paranoid schizophrenic, please take your meds for your sake and ours.

  115. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  116. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    +

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  117. Ghostery = 'souled-out' & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on Ghostery doing all that let alone as well as hosts do!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ClarityRay DETECTS browser addons like Ghostery & blocks them (not hosts) via native browser methods.

    What's better than ghostery by FAR?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  118. PrivacyBadger = ABP code & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can PrivacyBadger do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on PrivacyBadger doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> PrivacyBadger does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    PrivacyBadger's Adblock+ codebase 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    PrivacyBadger adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  119. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    Well, I'm of two minds on this subject. I have never installed adblock and its ilk, because I know that "free" content comes at a cost.

    I feel the same. Recently I changed my opinion, and you should too. Here is why:

    Malware gets served in ads. All the major ad networks serve malware, because they don't properly monitor ad buyers. If you browse without ad-blocker, you are putting your computer at risk of being hacked. It is irresponsible.

    (As an aside, I can tell you that ad networks have very low motivation to clean up or monitor ad buyers, because that is their source of revenue.)

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  120. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bigfinger76 nice FAIL! You're can't prove apk wrong on hosts http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

  121. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by buck-yar · · Score: 2

    After seeing this spammed all over this page, I know what adblock software I'll *never* use

  122. Autoplay and Poor Ads by ohnocitizen · · Score: 1

    I just ignored ads. Until I went to sites that had ads jiggle to catch my attention (tip via paypal!!!), autoplay videos (even without sound - the movement is annoying when I am trying to read an article), pop ups, pop unders, and of course delayed load ads and modal ad dialogs. SO FRUSTRATING! So I installed an ad blocker (uBlock) that not only doesn't slow down my browsing - it speeds it up! I doubt I can go back to the way it was before seeing how much better the web is without awful ads.

    What can publishers do to reverse this trend? Ads that load quickly and aren't obnoxious. That simple. Throw in privacy as well for bonus points.

    The one worry I have is that people don't want to pay for news anymore, and that is hurting the industry. We need *old school* investigative journalism that understands you can have a position without having bias - and I don't see a way to fund that.

    1. Re:Autoplay and Poor Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't ignore ads. They just hurt you enough that you didn't mind them, until it was in their interest to annoy you for dollars. You behaved rationally by installing an adblocker. It will never be rational for you to remove the adblocker, because advertisements will never do anything but hurt you.

  123. Can't take the web anymore by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Ad-Blockers are nice and all, but I've pretty much abandoned the web except for a few sites I read daily... if the company I want doesn't have an app at this point, they may as well be dead to me. It's just way too frustrating having to deal with clicking on something never doing at all what I was expecting.

    More work for the company to produce an app? Yes, sucks to be you. But this is the world we are moving to rapidly.

    On a side note, I'd like to thank Slashdot for not having any crappy click hijacking that opens new windows or frames.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Can't take the web anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you think apps won't eventually be full of nonblockable ads? They have an even more captured audience built in!

  124. Re:Mute the TV by GargamelSpaceman · · Score: 2

    This is the reason I proudly browse with Ad Block Edge.

    Content paid for by ads is not produced in my interest, but in the interest of the purchasers of the ads. In most cases it would be better if whatever is paid for by ads were not produced at all. That would make the voices of those speaking to share their thoughts, relatively louder in the marketplace of ideas, compared with the voices of those speaking to attract eyeballs in a way that won't reflect badly on a brand.

    To an extent, content in the service of ads BECOMES an ad. I crave what is left when nobody can make money off the internet.

    The rest can fsck off and die.

    If something only exists in a form paid for by ads it is either 1) not necessary for anyone to create without the ads given the easy availability of ad blockers, but would be available if the existing sources went away or 2) is garbage or at best empty calories.

    If a site wants to require ad-blockers be disabled to view the content, let them. I won't view their site if it's too hard to get around their ads. I won't link to their site because I won't view it and so won't know what's published on it. And neither will any of the people who use ad-blockers. And since people clever enought to know what an ad-blocker is, ( a low bar, but a bar nonetheless ) these tend to be the most savvy, interestin, and the most apt to generate traffic by their actions. The site that enforces no-adblockers soon gets forgotten.

    Unless the site serves up tripe appealing to the lowest common denominator. But then it needn't bother blocking ad-blockers because its audience is literally brain-dead, and won't install them. But if they DID force viewing of ads, then well, nothing of value was lost.

    --
    ...
  125. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by xenotransplant · · Score: 1

    You shouldn't respond to APK guy with your actual account. Now he is going to stalk you. On a related note, his hosts program is actually pretty good, however his methods of forum hijacking are a little eh.

  126. Ads are aggressions. It's a war. by Thanatiel · · Score: 1

    The fight against the invasion of the minds has not started yesterday.

    Ads utter to you in not always subtle ways the same message. To try to fix your miserable existence and be happy you need to spend more, own more, bigger, shinier. It's an aggression, an unrelenting crime against humanity.

    A while ago, when I only disliked advertising, there is a nice game I used to play:

    If I saw or heard an ad more than a couple of time on a single day (radio/TV), I used to ban the product for a few months/years. I was kind of happy to know that in retaliation to their indelicacy towards myself, they would at least lose the few tens or thousands I may well have given them otherwise.

    Later I ended up stopping watching TV altogether (how about that, it was roughly 20 years ago), and started buying tapes, then DVDs then Blu-rays. It was a bit more expensive but so much better than TV, and no ads.
    Then with the year more and more of the discs started to display hard-to-skip ads even before the menu, so I stopped buying.
    I'm now on a popular (legal, paid, ad-free) streamer for TV and another for music (They shall remain nameless of course).

    I guess I'm still vulnerable to product placement, but that's usually subtle enough ... so far.

    Today the rule of the game with advertisers is simple : if I notice an ad, I cut the medium.

    --
    Irrelevant news and morons using moderation to mod down what they disagree on. 2018 resolution: so long.
    1. Re:Ads are aggressions. It's a war. by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      > Today the rule of the game with advertisers is simple : if I notice an ad, I cut the medium.

      Generally a solid point. This still rewards advertisers, however- it just rewards the ones that are subtle enough to hit your unconscious without your conscious mind screening it.

      The other big point you have, about how they started shitting up the DVDs with bullshit, made me go from "guy who buys media to watch more than once" to "never doing that, because there are ads". It's possible, with great effort, to de-shittify any given disk and reburn it without the ads, but that's vastly more effort than just streaming / pirating / ignoring.

      Product placement, however, is a serious and growing threat. As much as I love going to a theater to watch a new release (I just arrive after the ads for the poison addictive beverages are gone), a product placement makes me feel so helpless. We need people to edit them out and put them up on torrent or something, a task beyond the reaches of common courtesy still. I doubt it will remain so, however. But even once that is fixed, I will still lose my ability to go to a movie, unless it's something I want all up in my head. That Nokia advert in Star Trek made me rage so hard. Right now, the only tell that it definitely won't have product placement is if it is fantasy or explicitly in a universe which can't have product placement. But even then, the problem is- eventually, that will be a reason to NOT make a movie. Oh, a new science fiction movie? But there's no way we can stick our fucking product in the hero's hand. We can't get this pass the execs. Change it so that we can sell a car. Change your fiction, change your vision. We need to sell a product. Change it so instead of inspiring, it controls. Change it so it hurts people. Only interested if it hurts them. Make the art hurt them and we can talk.

      Is there any non-governmental fix to this parade of feces?

  127. Re:Adblocking (& more) @ its native finest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does APK block the obnoxious advertisements for APK on forum posts?

  128. Cost for IT services. by xenotransplant · · Score: 1

    I wonder what advertising agencies spend every year on IT services. I wonder if they are aware that they could severely drop that cost by installing some ad-blocking utilities/hosts files.

  129. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  130. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by raynet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ABP doesn't spam on forums...

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    - Raynet --> .
  131. Re:Validly technically disprove these then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, dude. Once is enough. More than once is a reiteration and tiresome, but 3+ is batshit krazy. You would have been affectionately referred to as a "kook" as you spammed Usenet with your snot. You'll never read this, though, because you're another self-aggrandizing delusional coward. God bless you and take you soon to keep.

  132. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  133. surfing without an ad blocker by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

    Yeah, you're enabling the websites to make more money.

    Do you deliberately drive recklessly in order to maximize the profits of your life insurance vendor, or do you drive carefully? just curious

  134. PrivacyBadger = ABP code & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can PrivacyBadger do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on PrivacyBadger doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> PrivacyBadger does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    PrivacyBadger's Adblock+ codebase 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    PrivacyBadger adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  135. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    +

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  136. Ghostery = 'souled-out' & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on Ghostery doing all that let alone as well as hosts do!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ClarityRay DETECTS browser addons like Ghostery & blocks them (not hosts) via native browser methods.

    What's better than ghostery by FAR?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  137. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by I4ko · · Score: 2

    when will you write an application that actually works? Because you know, I gave yours a try, and after 50 minutes of being unresponsive I had to kill it. If you don't know how to merge sort lists of strings, then I question the rest of your application. And also I block all those sites on my firewall, no need to do that on the hosts file.

  138. Directed overdone advertisements are the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pretty much only started blocking advertisements recently because of particular sites that over-do it. They're not exactly typical, but honestly, the other reason is because they're tracking every f'ing thing I do online. Stop it. If you want to advertise to me advertise on tech sites. You don't need to get so excessive as to track every little detail. Most of the directed advertisements were utterly pointless. I already bought whatever it was I was going to buy. Trying to sell me X when I bought Y already doesn't really work.

  139. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  140. PrivacyBadger = ABP code & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can PrivacyBadger do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on PrivacyBadger doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> PrivacyBadger does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    PrivacyBadger's Adblock+ codebase 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    PrivacyBadger adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  141. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    +

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  142. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by jdavidb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it helps me sleep better at night knowing I'm at least willing to try to give them some of my attention in return for free content.

    I feel better blocking all ads and knowing that I've contributed to pressuring websites to find an alternative model to stay afloat.

  143. Ghostery = 'souled-out' & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on Ghostery doing all that let alone as well as hosts do!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ClarityRay DETECTS browser addons like Ghostery & blocks them (not hosts) via native browser methods.

    What's better than ghostery by FAR?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  144. It works the other way too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblockers may actually help some of the worst offenders.

    For example, if I am browsing without an adblocker and I see a particularly obnoxious ad, I make a mental note of who NOT to buy from if I am ever int he market for their product.

    However, with an adblocker I may never see the obnoxious ad, and still end up buying from that company. Did they figure those cases into their analysis?

  145. Cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's going to 'cost' them? Here, let me give you my address, you'll need to send the check somewhere....

    It's not going to 'cost' them anything. Losing projected revenue you guess you might earn based on current trends doesn't 'cost' you anything.

  146. Blame the ads by melting_clock · · Score: 1

    There was a time when ads just displayed a picture or some text, over a link, which left little for us to object to. Today, there serve up malware, steal our data, track us and spy on us, making ads a huge security and privacy risk that any sane person would object to. Until the ads companies show a bit of respect for Internet users, they will remain something that must be blocked at every opportunity.

    I've been on the Internet for 20 years and have never clicked on an ad, including sponsored Google search results. I have wasted a lot of time removing malware from the computers of those less cautious. Ads do not have to be evil but they are.

  147. Behaviour of advertisers by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

    I tolerate sensible adverts that aren't too intrusive. Banners are fine. In-page popups are not, vibrant ads are not, and so on. For sites that advertise sensibly, I quite happily switch off ad blocking. But advertisers need to also realise that bandwidth is not always a plentiful resource, and go easy on it. If I didn't have unlimited broadband at home (but a 10gig cap), I would certainly use ad-blocking quite aggressively there. The thing is, if a page needs more than, say, 200k of data when the written content is maybe 3 pages long and that is the only point of the page, this is just profligate, and if someone is restricted to mobile internet (and possibly a cap of 2gig per month, or even 0.5gig per month), then the amount of bandwidth wasted by adverts is, quite frankly, unacceptable. If advertisers suffer because of ad blocking, as a community they only have themselves to blame.

    --
    John_Chalisque
  148. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your ineffectual downmods to try hide apk's posts don't prove apk wrong on hosts superiority to other methods. You're actually helping to prove apk's right about hosts.

  149. Tasteful, Well, Placed Ads... by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    Tasteful, Well, Placed Ads are not the norm. Instead, we have inappropriate ads, made for shock value, made to jar the senses, in your face, filling up your machine with cookies that wear your SSD. We have self-playing audio and video.

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendaEM
  150. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  151. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    +

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  152. Can adblock do all hosts do for less? No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  153. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an idea about this. I'm pretty sure APK doesn't own star64.com. If you visit the main page there's a contact link at the bottom. If enough of us contact the site and tell them what he's doing, they might stop hosting his application.

  154. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    EDIT: the domain name is actually start64.com

  155. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  156. Can't get it to work? Try this... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Firewall rule's needed so let it thru your firewall inbound @ least IF you are having an issue (it has network code in it is why to obtain data via downloads, & that *may* be your problem) - Windows version you use? If VISTA or more that is.

    You also *may* have the issue MS introduced in "Windows Defender" in VISTA where you have to make a rule in it to ALLOW hosts alteration - that is ANOTHER KNOWN ISSUE MS introduced regarding hosts most everyone KNOWS about too!

    * I've had that happen with games like IDSoftware stuff, that MIGHT be your problem...

    OR

    You didn't set your local dnscache clientside slower usermode service off as the program & it's installation directions recommend is all!

    (Windows has an issue with larger hosts files in that service & this program creates large hosts files for more speed, security, reliability + anonymity online...)

    Lastly: Windows VISTA onward = SERIOUS JUNK (which is why nobody bought it or 8.x).

    It's that, or YOU HAVE A REALLY SLOW SYSTEM (takes only 10-15 minutes tops here on an Intel Core I7 4790x).

    APK

    P.S.=> I hope you're not being a troll & only didn't realize that much is all... apk

  157. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by ZorglubZ · · Score: 2

    Can the HOSTS file block these incessant ads about the glory of the HOSTS file? Is it truly the final solution that will forevermore remove the blight that is APK Hosts File Engine spam? If so, sign me up!

  158. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by amiga3D · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You are correct. Adblock failed miserably to block your ad. It got through to my browser.

  159. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    You shouldn't respond to APK guy with your actual account. Now he is going to stalk you.

    Shouldn't that be a Slashdot achievement by now?

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  160. Re:Downmod me, not proving me wrong? by amiga3D · · Score: 1

    You might be right but.....we fucking hate you. It's one thing to be right but it's another one to be a fucking annoying shitstain as well. Die already.

  161. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same here, and I work in advertising.

    Well - not directly - but my industry is funded by the advertising industry, and I will be very glad when the advertising industry has finally collapsed and my colleagues & I are forced to find new clients or starve.

    I will continue to do my part in my own downfall by blocking all the ads I can block, and wherever possible buying products from companies whose advertisements I've never noticed. If their products are decent, they'll stand on their own merits.

    My purchasing strategy is now to look for products that have favourable consumer reviews (eg: four stars or more on Newegg or Amazon), then go straight to the most angrily dissatisfied reviews (because one-star reviews won't be coming from paid shills), and see if the product's worst flaws are something I can live with.

  162. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trolling? I thought he'd be upmodded for being funny.

  163. Re: AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cool thing about HOSTS is it could never block 1st party ads.
    If sites would host the ads themselves then you'd have to use a plugin. But we know no self respecting site would host something so dangerous. This is why they let 3rd parties handle ads, to stay away from liability when they infect you.

  164. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was wondering if it was one of his competitors doing all this spam posting.

  165. Re: Downmod me, not proving me wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never needed your program. What's so hard about copy/paste? It's a text file for crying out loud. I've been using this method since the 90's. Also there's a lot of things I need to not be blocked. Like streaming tv ads, they won't let the video continue of they don't play. So if I used your program I'd have to edit manually anyways.

  166. Malvertising requires Ad Blocking by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 1

    Wasn't it just like just last week that Yahoo fessed up to having malware delivered through their advertising? In their zeal to reduce costs they apparently do little to review adverts placed via their own ad networks. I can't imagine browsing the web without an ad blocker these days.

  167. yall had to go and summon APK by Cito · · Score: 1

    ha!

    I knew APK spam would tag the fuck outta this article

    1. Re:yall had to go and summon APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is really funny how nobody ever gets the best of apk's points on hosts file superiority to browser addons though. Apk's right on that much obviously.

    2. Re:yall had to go and summon APK by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      In fairness, this article is pretty much the mating call of his kind.

    3. Re:yall had to go and summon APK by Cito · · Score: 1

      Ha!

      While I use the adblock plugin on Firefox, I do have automated blocklist downloaded on my router. It's nice having ad blocking at the router, so when I'm on my tablet I don't get any ads on web or games. :-P

      But apk guy cracks me up, I've seen him tagging just about every article remotely related to networking with his huge rant about hosts file for at least the last 2 years, if not longer.

      It's like Slashdot's own 'phantom of the opera'

      Ha

    4. Re:yall had to go and summon APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see APK posting points no fan of adblock, ublock, privacybadger or ghostery can prove wrong.

  168. i used to be.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to be a "no ad block" supporter, I believed websites operators deserved to be paid for the websites, but too many websites have begun to abuse it.
    It becomes almost impossible to browse some sites, so now i religiously use ad block, and make sure everyone i know is also using it.

    1. Re:i used to be.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to be a "no ad block" supporter, I believed websites operators deserved to be paid for the websites, but too many websites have begun to abuse it.
      It becomes almost impossible to browse some sites, so now i religiously use ad block, and make sure everyone i know is also using it.

      I've always blocked them, I don't believe people should be paid for websites. If you want to put stuff up on the internet, you should fund it yourself like I do, you're not doing anyone any favours. If not, I don't want to see your crap. It would also cut back on all the bullshit videos for everything and bring back plain text and images only.

  169. Re:Downmod me, not proving me wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't prove my points wrong on hosts & abuse modpoints to try to "hide" my posts

    It's not up to anyone to disprove your "points", it is up to YOU to prove them. Ball's in your court and always has been. PROVE that your program works.

    And the reason your posts are being modded down is because they are spam.

  170. Can adblock do all hosts do for less? No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  171. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  172. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  173. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  174. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  175. Ghostery = 'souled-out' & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on Ghostery doing all that let alone as well as hosts do!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ClarityRay DETECTS browser addons like Ghostery & blocks them (not hosts) via native browser methods.

    What's better than ghostery by FAR?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  176. PrivacyBadger = ABP code & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can PrivacyBadger do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on PrivacyBadger doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> PrivacyBadger does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    PrivacyBadger's Adblock+ codebase 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    PrivacyBadger adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  177. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  178. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  179. Privoxy = network-wide ad-blocking by bedouin · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised I didn't see Privoxy mentioned in the comments. It may not be as effective or updated as regularly as many browser plugins, but it's the only way to block ads across your entire network, on ANY device. This is one of the reasons I never encounter ads in iOS apps/games with iAds. I've been using it since the days of Internet Junkbuster, before ad-blocking plugins even existed. Aside from blocking ads, Privoxy has some other privacy enhancing features as well.

  180. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  181. Validly technically disprove these then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  182. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by Mandrel · · Score: 1

    as much as possible I sit through commercials from network TV's streamed shows, I allow sidebar ads to populate some screen real estate on websites, etc.

    How often do you find these useful?

  183. Re:Validly technically disprove these then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can't prove you wrong apk. Bad downmods twice only http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... and http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... proving you outfox and outsmart them getting them to blow all their abused modpoints they get from their multiple sockpuppet fake registered luser accounts until you run them dry of them. A credit to your genius apk.

  184. PrivacyBadger = ABP code & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can PrivacyBadger do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on PrivacyBadger doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> PrivacyBadger does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    PrivacyBadger's Adblock+ codebase 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    PrivacyBadger adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  185. PrivacyBadger = ABP code & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can PrivacyBadger do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on PrivacyBadger doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> PrivacyBadger does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    PrivacyBadger's Adblock+ codebase 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    PrivacyBadger adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  186. Hosts work on OS X... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I plan to port to OS X & Linux in the future (as Delphi re-releases).

    Delphi already does ANDROID, OS X, Windows (32 & 64-bit for all of them).

    * Delphi USED to do Linux, via Kylix, & that is the ONLY 1 LEFT it doesn't do (currently)!

    HOWEVER:

    There's FreePascal + Lazarus IDE for it, & that port would be "short work" too (almost an EXACT clone of Delphi's commandset in FreePascal + Lazarus' IDE is damn close to Delphi's too).

    (The only REAL things to change would be drive letters for Windows vs. *NIX mounted devices - my sockets layer access is ALREADY CLEAN vs. differences there, abstracted away (that's the latest on the porting I plan))

    APK

    P.S.=> And, there ya go!... apk

  187. Incidentally: I combine hosts w/ firewalls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: For ads served by IP address, I use firewall rules with hosts...

    APK

    P.S.=> I don't miss a THING, + Hosts do FAR MORE than UBlock, AdBlock variants, Ghostery etc. (w/ their many orders of magnitude memory + CPU consumption vs. hosts PLUS added overheads in messagepassing ontop of browsers & SLOWER USERMODE OPERATION vs. hosts in kernelmode)

    I just use what you already have that's massively refined & FAR MORE EFFICIENT + FAR MORE CAPABLE too!

    I use the IP stack via hosts + firewall rules tables vs. "PILING ON MOAR", & especially an INEFFICIENT "MOAR" in browser addons (as well as locally run dns & all its problems in redirect poisoning + excessive power usage)... apk

  188. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Hard to miss many IF any & it's not my data for blocking ads, trackers, botnets, & more threats comes from 10 reputable sources in the security community.

    ADBLOCK VARIANTS ARE ONES THAT MISS THE "1 LITTLE IP" since they're paid off NOT to do the 1 JOB THEY HAD!

    PROOFS:

    Adblock+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    (ORIGINAL ADBLOCK WAS ALSO)

    Considering the EFF's new "PrivacyBadger" is just AdBlock Plus code, & SPONSORED BY GOOGLE (or in cahoots working with them), you CAN BET IT'S PAID OFF TO NOT DO THE 1 JOB IT HAD TOO, since Microsoft, Amazon, & Google BRIBED THEM NOT TO!

    APK

    P.S.=> Besides - IF I was a 'scam', would the likes of MalwareBytes' OWN people host & RECOMMEND my program? No!

    Plus, it's clean & VERIFIED SO by 57++ antivirus vendors as was shown & YOU CAN EASILY VERIFY THAT FROM MY POSTS EARLIER TOO!

    (As well as having its sourcecode be verified by the folks @ MalwareBytes also)... apk

  189. Ads served on the same site don't pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Advertisers don't trust webmasters alleged click counts is why. It's why you rarely, if ever, see one done that way.

  190. Documented proofs are inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: From reputable sources - Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Documented proofs are inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still don't see proof. Write a detailed, peer reviewed paper or make a video SHOWING HOW using a hosts file is better.

  191. Adblock+ is bribed to NOT work by default by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: AdBlock+ can't do as much as hosts + uses more http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    (Seems all you have is abused moderation misusing your modpoints to try hide that post & others like it - you're only HELPING ME PROVE MY POINTS since that's "the best ya got" & clue: IT AIN'T WORTH SQUAT!)

    APK

    P.S.=> LASTLY, since you downmodded the last time I posted this completely fair challenge to you:

    AHEM:

    You're MORE THAN WELCOME to prove what's in that link above wrong INSTEAD OF ABUSING MODPOINTS to try to "hide it"!

    You can't, lol, THAT is obvious by now!

    So - I'll burn you out of those modpoints eventually + easily, & then I'll just post again... & then, you'll be JUST LIKE "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" - useless, lol... apk

  192. R O T F L M A O: Getting "desperate"? Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clue: They don't host my app. They feature it. You've tried it with those who DO host it, and they STILL HOST IT... why?

    They KNOW you're trolls, & full of shit (especially since you can't prove my points on hosts superiority to browser addons on resource use AND abilities - hosts blow them ALL away there, easily, on MANY GROUNDS) - & guess what??

    THEY STILL HOST IT & LAUGH @ FOOLS LIKE YOU!

    APK

    P.S.=> You're all (& I've gotta say it since it's truth + YOU MAKE IT OBVIOUSLY SO) FOOLS... lol!

    Fools that can *NEVER*, ever, get the best of me on ANY account - & you know it (anyone else reading with 1/2 a brain does).

    Thanks, actually!

    You make ME, look GREAT - & yourselves, by way of comparison? Like stupid snivelling WORMS... lol!

    ...apk

  193. So do it right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do my ad-blocking at the network level, for all the reasons people have posted here.

    There's a podcast I listen to regularly. Runs about 2 hours an episode, typically the host will interrupt and endorse a product every 15 - 20 minutes. As a result of his recommendations, I've purchased several books, a mattress, and life insurance.

    Want to know his secret? He actually bothers to check up on the products that he endorses, and is careful to make sure that they are things that his listeners will benefit from hearing about. His ads don't feel like intrusive, obnoxious hustling from a bargain basement 'marketing' company because - get this - they aren't intrusive, obnoxious hustling from a bargain basement 'marketing' company.

    Everything I've purchased based on his ads turned out to be a good deal that I'd gladly recommend to friends or family.

    The vast majority of advertisers on the Internet approach the market like bad prostitutes, trying to get your attention with noisy, sleazy demands on your attention and nothing of importance or value to offer. On a street like that, you'd be crazy not to do everything in your power to get the scumbags off your street. Shame the idea of simply trying to provide useful information and recommendations for your fan-base is such a hard concept for most of the 'net.

  194. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Judging by how nobody proves apk wrong I'd say he has no competition.

  195. The first rule of adblockers is by mrprogrammerman · · Score: 1

    you don't talk about adblockers. I agree it was nice while it lasted.

  196. Re: The irony of your offtopic bs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does nothing against side loaded ads. They don't have to use DNS to put up an ad.

  197. I use hosts due to troll shills like you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seeing you all use bad downmods failing to prove apk wrong http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7821695&cid=50285983 I know what adblocking ware I will use instead of whoever it is you work for (Google, Amazon, Microsoft, the companies that paid adblock to not do the 1 job it had, blocking ALL ads, or Adblock itself).

  198. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your offtopic troll fails to prove apk technically wrong http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... and you're making him right all the more in your failing to do so on every point apk makes on hosts files superiority to other inferior so-called methods in adblocking, let alone the fact hosts do far more with far less resource consumption. Your idea of convincing users he's wrong fails when all you have is unjustifiable downmods and off topic troll rants in your frustration at being inferior obviously. All you seem to think you have is your downmods, misusing modpoints. Apk beats that easily as he apparently has NO LIMITS on how often he can post, unlike most ac users, and he runs you dry of those and you're stuck with off topic trolling of him or useless illogical ad hominem attacks. They're not effective and are helping prove his points on hosts superiority to browser addons.

  199. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  200. Re:Adblocking (& more) @ its native finest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better question: Why can't you validly prove apk wrong? Answer is apk's right. Hosts do more with less than browser addons.

  201. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  202. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  203. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  204. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  205. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  206. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  207. Re:Validly technically disprove these then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once is enough? You haven't validly proved apk wrong even once!

  208. Can adblock do all hosts do? No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  209. Re:LOL - that's the "best ya got"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Projecting your fail in proving apk wrong on hosts superiority http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... when you're reduced to such illogical off topic trollishness. That's good enough for me to convince me apk's dead on right. You're doing apk a favor with your off topic troll rants that can't prove him wrong on how much better hosts are on all fronts.

  210. Re:"cost online publishers" - TANSTAAFL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of my surfing is done without javascript, flash, java applets, or just about anything else enabled. I do occasionally click on one of the advertisements that I can see. But if it's something that doesn't display properly, I don't click it. I don't click on lego icons either. I also don't click on things full page ads, because the javascript wont run anyway to fix the page display. If a page doesn't display correctly or function at all with my settings, I try disabling css for the purpose of reading what I went to that site to read. Only a few keystrokes in firefox, alt+v, y, n. Clicking the X to close the ad doesn't work without javascript, I used to hit f12 and tweak the css to make it go away, but it's just so much faster to disable the css entirely. And I often stop using that site. My line isn't videos or sound, it's code from a source that I don't explicitly trust in advance being run on my computer. So I'm really not blocking anything for being an ad, I'm just blocking based on content type, whether it's an ad or not. And I've been pretty content with that for the past 2 years. And there are lots of sites that don't function as a result, which means there are lots of sites I don't have to bother going to anymore. More free time for me.

  211. LMAO: That's the "best ya got"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Does your off topic bs prove this wrong http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... ?

    NO...

    APK

    P.S.=> I love it when you fools (doubtless adblock sockpuppets paid to do so) vainly try these effete off topic ad hominem attacks + unjustifiable downmods that never ever prove my points validly technically wrong (impossible to do to the truth & verifiable facts I post from reputable sources)... YOU'RE MAKING MY CASE & PROVING MY POINTS FOR ME IN YOUR DOING SO, LOL... apk

  212. Re: AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any idea I'd had about using your product was put out of my head by your mad spamming of Slashdot and abuse of anyone who disagrees with you. Why would I use anything promoted by someone who behaves like that?

  213. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  214. Re:LOL - that's the "best ya got"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a delusional offtopic troll failing to prove apk wrong http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... and since you can't prove him wrong, you post your off topic foaming at the mouth illogical ad hominem attacks instead, that's good enough for me to realize you're failing badly and that apk's right about hosts superiority to all other methods on most all grounds if not all possible.

  215. You're either stupid, illiterate, or blind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject (IF you can read that is) & see the 'p.s.' section of my posts...

    APK

    P.S. => Write a paper? WTF is this, academia?? I'm LONG done with that (2 degrees worth around the computer sciences in fact) - that's for NOOBZ, like you (hell, YOU DON'T EVEN QUALIFY for Pete's sake - you're illiterate!)

    CLUE: I actually WRITE USEFUL PROGRAMS like my hosts file engine that demonstrably do MORE than shitty "Open SORES" browser addons do by a mile & with less (beat THAT with a stick, chump)... apk

    1. Re:You're either stupid, illiterate, or blind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You haven't proven shit. All you did was state your opinions and expect people to just believe you. SHOW how your hosts file solution is better or keep quiet.

      P.S. => Write a paper? WTF is this, academia?? I'm LONG done with that (2 degrees worth around the computer sciences in fact) - that's for NOOBZ, like you (hell, YOU DON'T EVEN QUALIFY for Pete's sake - you're illiterate!)

      Yeah, sure you are. You so desperately want people to believe you without proof that you waste loads of time spamming every single discussion on Slashdot and then you whine and fling childish insults when people ask for proof. You are about the mental equivalent of a ten year old boy who sticks his fingers in his ears and repeats "nuh uh" over and over. I'm guessing you've probably never been laid before either, for what woman would put up with someone like you?

      Seriously though, you should consider getting professional psychiatric help.

  216. Gee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder why. I get tired of having ads pop up in the middle of an article and either slowing my system down or blasting the fuck outta my ears.

  217. Thanks for the compliment xenotransplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    See subject: However - it's not just "pretty good", it's the BEST OF ITS KIND, no questions asked, & does FAR MORE for added speed, security, reliability, + anonymity than ANY single other "so-called 'solution'" out there in browser addons AND it even overcomes DNS' shortcomings (excess power use if setup locally, tons of security flaws like Kaminsky redirect poisoning which 99.999% of ISP DNS are NOT PATCHED FOR) & yet it compliments DNS too (remote filtering GOOD ones like OpenDNS), even lightening its loads (which admins of them should love). :)

    * xenotransplant: In closing - "It's not EASY being 'world-class'" (like me)... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Once more, lastly - thank you, for telling the truth of my program's quality @ least...

    The ONLY reason I post as much as I do?

    The little pricks around here DOWNMOD MY POSTS with NO VALID TECHNICAL JUSTIFICATIONS WHY, as in mistakes or falsehoods I post in them - that, is bullshit!

    In response?

    Well... so, I just post AGAIN since I have NO LIMITS on how often I can post as an ac (unlike MOST of them here), overriding their EFFETE little 'weapon', in the bogus downmod!

    (Yes - I truly DO suspect them to be paid off by AdBlock, Google, MS, or AMAZON since they stand to lose vs. myself, AND ARE, badly @ every single turn - I outthought them by miles, long ago is why - has to be them, it doesn't take a "big brain" to realize it - only a NUTJOB would downmod posts with undeniable facts that ONLY DO USERS RIGHT with a BETTER method, hosts)... apk

  218. I4ko - meet xenotransplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He got my program to work & says it's GOOD http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7821695&cid=50291081 :)

    * You lose/fail, & you're obviously stupid... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Get a faster machine, or a BRAIN (lmao) - or use what I wrote in my other reply to you, dumbass... apk

  219. Browser addon fans crack ME up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Why? All they have is effete downmods, totally unjustified, since they don't prove me wrong on hosts superiority to these "Open SORES" browser addons that're SOLD-OUT + don't even DO THE SINGLE JOB THEY HAD, blocking ads (paid off by Microsoft, Amazon, & GOOGLE not to by default in the case of AdBlock, & AdBlock+ which OUGHT TO BE CALLED "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" actually... lol!).

    APK

    P.S.=> In fact, I welcome ANY of my doltish weak "naysayers" to prove me wrong on my points on hosts - funniest part is, they JUST CAN'T... which pretty much says it all - I win, as always & write up wares that ROCK THE PLANET vs. shitheads like malware makers, botnet herders, ADVERTISERS (infecting us, stealing our bandwidth etc.) & YES inferior 'souled-out' so-called 'competitors' whose crap doesn't EVEN WORK RIGHT BY DEFAULT ANYMORE, + doesn't do a FRACTION of what hosts files do for users in added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online AND FOR LESS RESOURCES CONSUMED too - beat THAT with a stick... apk

  220. drinkypoo, an achievement for ME? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Seeing YOU use hosts files too, quoting you in response to myself:

    "you're right about hosts files" - by drinkypoo (153816) on Thursday May 26, @01:21PM (#36252958)

    Yes, I am... always was, always WILL be! :)

    * An actual ACHIEVEMENT for my 'naysayer trolls' here who have nothing but downmods they can't justify by proving points I put out in favor of hosts would be to ACTUALLY FULLY PROVE ME WRONG - they never ONCE have. Not once...

    (lol, can't be done - I'm just TOO damned intelligent for those cretins).

    APK

    P.S.=> Take a read here too, be enlightened -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... since that's a man who tells the truth... apk

  221. l4ko - get a better machine & a brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & my p.s. below - I've dusted you on this before http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    APK

    P.S.=> Once more - xenotransplant has a "little something" to tell you here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... ... apk

  222. Subjects are not comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even put an ad up? I didn't see any ads.

    .

  223. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please do not reply to APK. The more you reply the more he posts.

  224. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please do not reply to APK. The more you reply the more he posts. 2

  225. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please do not reply to APK. The more you reply the more he posts. 3

  226. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by konohitowa · · Score: 1

    I can never tell if you're serious, apk, or if you just do this because you find it amusing. Do you actually believe that your responses pretending to be a different person are fooling people? And yes, I know what a sock monkey is, but that phrase usually sets you off, so I'm not going to use it. (Hint: my prior sentence contained humor in the form of a contradiction).

  227. I repost after bogus downmods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: There's no doubt of them being bad mods, they haven't proved me wrong on anything validly yet downmod me. That's bs. So I repost and people like YOU have to use your "last resort" of calling me a 'spammer' FALSELY - so, don't try to "play me" or anybody else - we see you for EXACTLY what you are & why you do it, idiot.

    * NO LIMITS ac poster HERE - your SINGLE effete 'weapon' in the bogus downmod? Useless vs. myself, fools... I just repost when you pull that outright CRAP.

    APK

    P.S.=> Makes me laugh - the OPEN SORES "big brains" of /. can't outsmart (or outcode) me & resort to such puny machinations, like some 'beyotch' would (which of course, makes you MY beyotches, lol)... apk

  228. You'll like this: It imports that... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Along with 9 other hosts files from reputable security community sources.

    * That's a good one, by the way... updates quite frequently!

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly/Additionally - Using my program, You can either import ALL of them, or selectively choose which of them you wish to utilize as you wish only - including someonewhocares' data also... apk

  229. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  230. Ghostery = 'souled-out' & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on Ghostery doing all that let alone as well as hosts do!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ClarityRay DETECTS browser addons like Ghostery & blocks them (not hosts) via native browser methods.

    What's better than ghostery by FAR?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  231. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you by dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do those & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu + memory use

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on UBlock doing it as well or @ all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ublock's NOT as efficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself using my program.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    SCREENSHOT -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it detecting it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!

    +

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's better?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk

  232. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by sudon't · · Score: 1

    ...speaking of ads.

    --
    -- sudon't

    Air-ride Equipped

  233. Re:Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apk reposts after bad downmods get applied that abuse moderation. Prove him wrong and those downmods wouldn't be bad ones. You guys can't manage that, can you? Nope.

  234. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apk reposts after downmods that aren't valid abusing moderation. Prove him wrong instead to make those downmods valid. You boys can't manage that, can you? No sir.

  235. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You goofs can't prove apk wrong and abuse moderation minusmodding him for no valid reason. Apk then reposts making those doing that look like the weak fools they are.

  236. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apk reposts after bad downmods get applied that abuse moderation. Prove him wrong and those downmods wouldn't be bad ones. You guys can't manage that, can you? Nope!

  237. Re:They asked us to punch the monkey... and we did by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "the advertising industry shows clear pattern of shitting the bed" ... couldn't have said it better myself.

    Thanks for your entertaining and apt analysis.

  238. In other news Google founders exit search ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And focus on OTHER alpha-bets, passing on search etc. to their new CEO.

    Hmm. Coincidence or far strategy....

  239. Use adblock, whitelist good sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I started using an ad blocker regularly when the ads started to regularly be video ads. I whitelist sites I use regularly - until they use auto-playing video ads. In general I just use a different site at that point also (though slashdot I sometimes clearly use still though it gets adblocked now due to video ads. Who thought it was a good idea to make auto-playing video ads? It's just stupid to actively try to annoy your customers.

  240. Ad Blocking is necessary by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 1

    As soon as we are able to hold sites accountable for letting ad networks use their site for distributing malware, and scams then we can discuss not blocking. Until then your ad better be hosted by the site itself, and non-intrusive, and legitimate.

    --


    (If at first you don't succeed, do it different next time!)
  241. It's no ad, merely a valid truthful reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: One you can't validly technically prove wrong...

    APK

    P.S.=> Truer words (one I just wrote now) have never been spoken on /. ... apk

  242. LMAO - you can't read, can you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See p.s. here (documented facts & reputable sources) http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    * You clearly illiterate ignoramus & you flung insults first here fool as well as proving you can't read...

    APK

    P.S.=> You should consider getting remedial reading lessons as well as a license to practice psychiatric sciences + a degree in them rather than being the "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /." libeling me in your off topic illogical invalid ad hominem attack (since you can't prove my points in favor of hosts doing far more yet with far less vs. inferior browser addons which you can't validly technically prove wrong)... apk

  243. List of where you'll go wrong then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & you get duplicates (inefficient), no filters vs. false positives, + NOT GETTING THE FULLEST POSSIBLE PROTECTION since my ware gets its data for hosts vs. trackers, ads, botnets, malscripted sites,+ FAR MORE - from 10 reputable reliable sites in the security community... & you're not protecting your hosts file (my app does) vs. corruption AND you're not reverse-dns pinging your fav. sites where you spend MOST OF YOUR TIME ONLINE @ the top of your hosts file (which aids speed beyond adblocking & reliability vs. DNS downage or redirect poisoning too).

    * Get it now? Good... despite your downmodding the last time I pointed this out, I will repost it again to show your fails.

    (Don't like what my program produces? Like you said, & THIS IS AN ADVANTAGE OVER regex using "Open SORES" crippled by default CRAP in adblock variants - edit it manually yourself - as hosts have a FAR EASIER TO UNDERSTAND INTERNAL FORMAT vs. "almostALLadsblocked" (lol) variants & their regex which MOST FOLKS WILL NOT UNDERSTAND, period...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Drink that in, & digest it - it's for YOUR OWN GOOD... apk

  244. I'm right & I dust bogus downmodders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You idiots unfairly downmod me + can't validly technically prove my points in favor of hosts files (doing far more yet with far less in resources consumed vs. inferior browser addons) incorrect & that I'm smart enough to be able to post again as much as I like!

    Thus, doing your "1 weapon", the unjustifiable downmod right the hell in since it's USELESS vs. myself... NO LIMITS HERE (& that includes posting as much as I like as an ac, CHUMP). :)

    * Face facts: YOU WISH YOU WERE ME!

    APK

    P.S.=> Might as well admit that last line above to yourself - you KNOW it's true! apk

  245. Bullshit it's 'spam'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: The downmods are bogus & don't validly technically prove me wrong on a SINGLE THING I wrote.

    So, thus - I repost - nullifying you dimwit cretins who abuse moderation that way, nullifying your single effete 'weapon', making it useless... lol!

    * It's not MY fault you bogus downmodders can't outthink, outprogram, OR OUTFOX me... it's yours.

    (After all - you downmodded this reply of mine too last time I posted it - guess what? NO LIMITS HERE & I repost it again for ALL to see, & to see how weak you are too, lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Got that? Good... The "big OPEN SORES brains" of /. can't outsmart "lil' ole' me" & I prove it every time & it makes me laugh @ you bogus downmodding weasels (doubtless the developers of AdBlock variants OR their advertiser sponsors) - guess what boys? YOU FAIL vs. me... always! apk

  246. Your bogus downmods don't prove me wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You can't prove my points wrong on hosts & abuse modpoints to try to "hide" my posts (weak) & then I JUST REPOST THEM AGAIN until you little whimps & weasels RUN DRY OF YOUR MODPOINTS...

    * Yes, it's THAT SIMPLE to outwit those downmodding my posts yet NEVER ONCE PROVING ME WRONG on the points in them I post...

    R O T F L M A O!

    (I can't help it - I'm dealing with EFFETE, LIMITED simpletons is why... too easy to outwit!)

    After all - you downmodded the last time I posted this set of truths to try to "hide it" but it's to no avail - I just reposted it for ALL to see & to see how WEAK you are!

    APK

    P.S.=> You can keep up your downmods - I'll just post again, DOUBLY making you look like the FOOLS you all are... lol, no joke - Your 1 'weapon' is useless in bogus downmods, and YOU ARE USELESS since you all can't prove my points validly technically wrong on hosts files' superiority to CLEARLY INFERIOR "browser addons", that stupidly eat MORE RESOURCES YET DO LESS THAN HOSTS DO... apk

  247. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily controlled data
    16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).

    +

    ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!

    +

    Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com...

    Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    ... apk