Just Whose InterNIC Is It, Anyway? By Elizabeth Wasserman for 'The Industry Standard' March 26, 1999
Network Solutions' decision to reroute traffic from InterNIC.net puts speed bumps in the road to competition.
The brazen move by Network Solutions Inc. last week to reroute traffic from the InterNIC to the company's homepage and redirect the popular "whois" directory annoyed the government, prospective competitors and many others in the Internet community.
It also exposed potholes along the road to competition in the market for registering cyberspace addresses. The "whois" directory enabled anyone to check who owns a particular domain name. NSI's action means that the public and competing registrars can still check whether a name is in use, but now they must hunt for it at NSI's site. It also means the considerable "brand" equity of InterNIC now reverts to NSI.
Now this means you will probably spammed with a geocity type pop-up when you do a whois search on their page... groovy baybee
March 29 was supposed to mark the deadline for applicants seeking approval of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers to compete with Network Solutions in the business of registering domain names for a two-month test. Even if NSI decides to reverse its position, ICANN President Michael Roberts said the deadline has been extended until April 8, and the decision on the five new registrars will be delayed until April 21 due to the questions raised by NSI last week.
The move by the Herndon, Va.-based company, which has had an exclusive government contract to administer names in the popular.com,.net and.org domains since 1992, also sends a chill through would-be contenders only one month before competition is expected to be introduced.
Many players bombarded ICANN and the U.S. Department of Commerce with questions about what was going on. If NSI, without prior notice to the U.S. government, could boldly claim as company property what many have come to view as a public resource, what would prevent the company from taking other actions to thwart competition?
Definitely seems that they're taking other actions now. Unethical actions upon a trusted system which logically isn't their property.
"It was a shot across the bow," says Rich Forman, founder of Register.com, which has become one of the largest registrars of cyberspace addresses and plans to apply to become an ICANN "test" registrar. "The InterNIC and the 'whois' database were almost like the U.S. Postal Service. It was quasi-public and had a lot of trust built up in it.It was a public entity that people had trust in, and now they've turned it into a private vehicle."
NSI said in a statement that the move was designed to "help customers more easily find the information, services and tools they need." NSI spokesman Chris Clough said the company's action was customer driven.
cough...bullshit "The intent was to make it simpler and easier and to consolidate the services we offer," he said. NSI combined the InterNIC domain-name-addressing site with its own homepage and said the new site was both faster to download and easier to reach.
But the rerouting of InterNIC also left potential competitors raising questions that U.S. officials had failed to resolve during their own negotiations with NSI. Under a cooperative agreement signed in October, NSI basically consented to operate the registry system for the most popular domains until 2000.
The registry function is akin to a wholesaler. Competition is being introduced initially by ICANN on the retail side, where registrars - including NSI - will compete for customers.
But the cooperative agreement left open certain issues, even though the countdown to competition has already begun. In particular, companies that are considering entering the field still don't know what price the registry will charge registrars for each domain name sold. Another outstanding issue is the technical specifications for the electronic interface between the registrar system and the NSI system, as well as the terms of the contracts that will be entered into between registrars and the registry.
"From our position, we have to depend on the DoC and ICANN to work out what is the ongoing relationship," says Sean Brophy, VP of corporate development at Verio, NSI's largest customer and a major Web-hosting company. "This has not been terribly smooth," Brophy adds. "We are now seeing a set of actions by people who are trying to position themselves very strongly."
Verio has not yet publicly announced whether it will apply to be a test registrar, but it is considered a likely candidate. Among the big-name companies that have inquired about entry to the domain-name marketplace, although they may not submit applications for the test, are MCI-WorldCom, America Online, Deutsche Telekom, France Telecom and even AT&T.
Meanwhile, smaller companies that have been acting as intermediaries between NSI and consumers fear they will lose out as InterNIC becomes associated with NSI's brand. "It's like being channel 3, 6 or 10 as opposed to 57," says Larry Erlich of Domainregistry.com.
First of their database is barely updated nowadays so your better off using their Shared Registration Service (SRS) database for queries here.
Secondly this should be unconstitutional being that the whois database is not theirs. Maybe they should advertise that and donate the money to ICANNooops That'd probably hurt them more then it would help them since they seem to want to monopolize the Domain Registration business.
heh the John Gotti's of the Domain registration world.
Someone should wake them up from their domination fantasies. register.com registers more domain than they do.
Maybe they should join in the adverstising business and give NSI (network stupidity inc) a run for the monopolized cash.
First they had Extreme Fighting. Which was banned. Now they have the same version only its catered to bots. Someone call those bots a lawyer. Violence will never diminish if people continously create these petty "sports" Besides what exactly is the purpose of this? To see who has the best bot? Please this is going a bit too far.
Damn where have you been? Theres a lot of great sites with tutorials on protecting yourself. Number one a lot of things should be common sense. Delete default accounts, use strong passwords, keep up on latest exploits via a security list, etc. Heres some links for ya;)
But before I dew((do)doo)d00) All this STO is big freaking joke.
Well maybe...just maybe if I hide my network vulnerabilities, people will just feel bad that I'm a shitty sys admin too lazy to fix the holes in my system www.securityfocus.com -- Excellent resource for up-to-date news www.securitysearch.net -- The Yahoo Search Engine of the Security World www.enteract.com/~lspitz -- Very Informative www.hackernews.com -- The CNN of the Hacking World
First off wasn't Tamagotchi Shomimura some type of security expert of some sort? It seems to be the case if he actually went and tracked him down. If he was such a "securityspert" why didn't he secure his boxen?
Entrapment I say. Kevin was a nobody who couldn't code in basic.
I had a friend who dated this one hot chick years back. Her father had tons of businesses. He went to sleep over her house one night for obvious reasons. boom boom in come the feds and arrest everyone. Turns out her father was drug kingpin. My friend who had absolutely nothing to do with anything and hadn't a clue of the fathers business goes to court.
D.A.: If you turn rat you'll walk
Friend: I have nothing to do with it.
D.A.: Suffer
Friend? Sentenced to 15-Life served 8 years from the age of 18-26 and is now on parole. For the sake of some dipshit D.A. trying to make a name for himself. Surveillance shows my friend had nothing to do with crap.
Trial time: Surveillance tapes... Disappeared in the system. In order to try to catch a quote bigger fish my friends life was screwed up. Fuck the justice system in the U.S. its a distorted joke.
Mitnick case was a media joke to begin with. He was plain and simply used as a scapegoat and in return they created an overflow of scriptkiddies who used his name to hack anything and everything.
Have you ever been to T50.com? Go after those assholes and fry them too. Whats the difference? Give it a break. People get away with murder nowadays hint freaking hint OJ. So you mean to tell me you would rather have an OJ walking around then a Kevin? Give me a break. I know the story told from all sides. It seems you might have read good old tamagotchi b0y's version a bit more than most people have. Remember only certain people know what truly happened. Everything else is distorted by media wh0res. Do you really know what happened? Do you honestly know he was storing this info off hand or did you happen to read it at a hacker-biased news forum?
I'd definitely love a laugh today, so please do reply.
Oooops my bad next time I'll mention the word federal so you will have something relevant to say.
Did I mention federal? No I didn't I could've been talking about the Brit who collapsed the banking system over there for all you know. Next time think twice before making an ass of yourself.
Damn my bad again... Anonymous Coward says it all. final words
It's only deserving since the media leaked tons of info, the whole case was screwy from the beginning, and Shomimura rebuilt his empire with the invention of the Tamagotchi pet. Come on if embezzlers can walk out of their jobs with millions and get a slap on the wrist then he too should've walked.
Oh well guess I'll have to change the FREE KEVIN buttons on my site to say LOCK UP KEVIN since srcipt kiddies no longer have anything to bitch about...
P.S. to the moron above who posted Mitnick is an asshole or idiot... I think your just a jealous little dipshit of someone who had and probably has more knowledge/skills than you.
Why don't people just leave the guy alone. I dislike Windows but have to admin NT servers at work and what I fail to understand is the criticism this guy gets for breathing. Walks down the street its a story. Takes a dump a story.
He did something positive for the computing community whether or not people accept that. Even with some of the flaws in the Windows operating system, it still is and will probably continue to be a dominating OS for years to come.
Show me a secretary thats ready to tar -xvf somefile.tar, or an executive thats willing to chmod 700 whateverfile and I'll shut up.
A lot of people buy books with fancy covers not knowing what the story is about. Same for OS'. People love easy set-ups, hassle free installs, etc. Microcrap provides new PC users with this so when the storyline starts most people see it ends up being... well a crappy story...
Blah at MS and the lawsuits they keep sending us for www.macroshaft.org
Hurry what the hell are you waiting for? Don't you wanna rush to register your domain with NSI? I mean they're service is absolutely the greatest. Call them anytime and have them modify your domain information, don't worry it may take a month but they will get to it eventually. What me worry... Questions? Sure send them an e-mail and after waiting 2-3 weeks they'll surely fire an incorrect templated response to you, but never fear their staff is on the case.
^z./sarcasm
I can see why they would start billing out domains on the spot, but it makes no difference their service totally sucks. But hey thats my opinion.
First off: Unfortunately you WILL have to go through NSI to make the change. www.networksolutions.com/makechanges/
When you fill out the form (hosting) they will send you a confirmation to the original e-mail address you used to register it. You have to reply to the confirmation. (HAVE TO) It normally takes about 3-4 weeks or more depending on when they decide to answer there damn e-mail. Be advised they do take a while. Until then no one over at register.com can do anything to force them to move it, or speed up the process.
Renewals: Being that the domain in question was more than likely registered through them, when renewal time comes around, you will have to have them release the domain back into the registry pool in order to re-register it. I'm sure you are aware that there is like a 90 day grace period they give the original owner to renew their domain. But since you wouldn't wanna wait, about a week or two before it expires contact NSI and tell them you have no intention to re-register with them and have decided to register the name elsewhere. They'll be pissed and probably will give you some mumbo jumbo response, but until the name is freed up you wont be able to just re-register it through register.com when it expires.
Is it going to have yet another backdoor going to cDc?
Now lets get realistic for a second. If it were worth anything more then a new script kiddie tool why not bring it out at PC expo as opposed to DefCon? Program something good for a change. And I don't mean that in the sense that the program sucks. You know damn well it's intentions are for the losers who wouldn't know how to hack a chicken with an ax point blank. Think of all the data thats going to be destroyed when some 14 year old loser download it and sweeps subnets because his little high school hoe just dumped him and now he wants to DELTREE your whole damn pc.
You and I both know the true purpose behind BO is just a slap in the face to Microcrap and a way to intrude networks and nothing more.
...by the way whats up to the l0pht section of you guys...;)
Image for a quick minute what it would be like if the cDc used their programming skills for something positive instead of this lame script kiddie visual basic junk. Great now I have to audit my NT server first thing when I get to work tommorow.
I find the legal disclaimer humorous... A remote administration tool? hah. Thats some funny shit. Oh well thank god I use SuSE and OpenBSD at home.
First of it's not set to SiteAmerica. It's set to mail.register.com which we change on demand and it gets change within 24 hours most of the time.
The MX hasnt been thrown into domain manage because the cgi scripts are still being worked on.
Picture this for a second as an Admin or Tech Support person in the Internet related field such as register.com
Customer: Hi, I just purchased WebTV and I want to host my domain on it. Also please set my MX info to l0ser.webtv.whatever.
--------snip-------
Currently it is being worked on and if anyone here needs an MX record changed or any other info for that matter I'll stick my foot in my mouth and offer my e-mail where I PERSONALLY will change the info for you. Any spams and I will block you in a heartbeat. Any moronic please redirect my domain to my PalmTop and I'll rm -f it.
The only logical look-ups would be to go to www.nsiregistry.com or use register.com's lookup.
Besides, now you don't have to wait a couple of years to modify your domain by sending out e-mails that takes months to answer after filling out the forms over at NSI. With Domain Manager at register.com you can change your DNS information yourself without having to wait for two months just to get a confirmation, then another two months to have that confirmation answered. Simplicity. Enter your new DNS info, wait for most DNS servers' cache to reload usually about 4-6 hours and your in business.
First off do they even update their database? Or do they still think they're the Sole-Registrars in this world?
Here's a hint go find out your whois info at www.register.com where everything is up to date by ICANN's standards. This way when you register your new spiffy site your hosting company won't bitch about not finding your info on the whois database. Since they don't seem to wanna update it, and have now thrown on some legal mumbo jumbo for using their half-assed whois service.
Which reminds me anyone visiting my site will now be subdued to sign a legal disclaimer stating they are entering my site for the sole purpose of wasting their life. Anything they see shall not be reproduced in their thoughts, ideas, conscious, etc.
IMHO I think they're stepping into the market to make a quick buck and thats the bottom line. I bought the BeOS 4 OS for 59 bucks to try it out and their lack of drivers sucked as much as their technical support. After e-mailing them with a simple question last month they've yet to respond. The search on their site is inconsistent and turned up "Under Re-Construction" pages that havent been updated according to the site since 1998. Now why would someone fork over cash to a company with the lack of support they have? Take into consideration that even crappy OS'es like MickeySoft send you a templated answer. While they may BS you with some 0-day irrelevant message it's nice to know at least you get an autoresponder.
Obviously this guy is clueless to the situation. And it should also be noted that anyone in their right mind would know that JP's petty threats mean jack sh!t. I get them all the time for running AntiOffline and I could care less what JP and his college dropout lawyer squad say or think. Hopefully Ken can retrieve his school work which is absolutely the most important part. Secondly I hope that this moronic childish, please-dont-call-me names outburst by that fag doesnt tarnish Ken's reputation which I highly doubt. Anyone who knows Ken, who has interacted with him knows he's a great guy 100%. Anyone else who begs to differ would be lying to themselves.
xp0rnstar Packet Storm Fan Club sil@antioffline.com sil@macroshaft.org
This has got to be the most moronic posting I've seen. Packet Storm Security provided Corporations, Governments, with knowledge in the security field. He did it out of the love for computing and security. His own time. Wasted down the drain because of some just as moronic as you with statements as the one you've just made. Have you ever been there? Have you ever interacted with Ken? Ken is one of the coolest people I've had the opportunity to even exchange e-mail with. It's people like him and his love for the field that make it worthwhile. You must be on a Commodore 64 with AOL to _not_ understand what his site closing means to people.
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I could image running PPCLinux on the machine. Now if only I could upgrade my Mac IIfx to G4 status...
fear... and stuff
AHA... I could even imagine running a BSD on the machine. No offense of course to the Mac OS... But its too BeOS'y for me
Just Whose InterNIC Is It, Anyway?
.com, .net and .org domains since 1992, also sends a chill through would-be contenders only one month before competition is expected to be introduced.
By Elizabeth Wasserman for 'The Industry Standard'
March 26, 1999
Network Solutions' decision to reroute traffic from InterNIC.net puts speed bumps in the road
to competition.
The brazen move by Network Solutions Inc. last week to reroute traffic from the InterNIC to the company's homepage and redirect the popular "whois" directory annoyed the government,
prospective competitors and many others in the Internet community.
It also exposed potholes along the road to competition in the market for registering cyberspace addresses. The "whois" directory enabled anyone to check who owns a particular domain name. NSI's action means that the public and competing registrars can still check whether a name is in use, but now they must hunt for it at NSI's site. It also means the considerable "brand" equity of InterNIC now reverts to NSI.
Now this means you will probably spammed with a geocity type pop-up when you do a whois search on their page... groovy baybee
March 29 was supposed to mark the deadline for applicants seeking approval of the Internet
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers to compete with Network Solutions in the business of registering domain names for a two-month test. Even if NSI decides to reverse its position, ICANN President Michael Roberts said the deadline has been extended until April 8, and the decision on the five new registrars will be delayed until April 21 due to the questions raised by NSI last week.
The move by the Herndon, Va.-based company, which has had an exclusive government contract to administer names in the popular
Many players bombarded ICANN and the U.S. Department of Commerce with questions about what
was going on. If NSI, without prior notice to the U.S. government, could boldly claim as company
property what many have come to view as a public resource, what would prevent the company from
taking other actions to thwart competition?
Definitely seems that they're taking other actions now. Unethical actions upon a trusted system which logically isn't their property.
"It was a shot across the bow," says Rich Forman, founder of Register.com, which has become one of the largest registrars of cyberspace addresses and plans to apply to become an ICANN "test" registrar. "The InterNIC and the 'whois' database were almost like the U.S. Postal Service. It was quasi-public and had a lot of trust built up in it.It was a public entity that people had trust in, and now they've turned it into a private vehicle."
NSI said in a statement that the move was designed to "help customers more easily find the information, services and tools they need." NSI spokesman Chris Clough said the company's action
was customer driven.
cough...bullshit "The intent was to make it simpler and easier and to consolidate the services we offer," he said. NSI combined the InterNIC domain-name-addressing site with its own homepage and said the new site was both faster to download and easier to reach.
But the rerouting of InterNIC also left potential competitors raising questions that U.S. officials had failed to resolve during their own negotiations with NSI. Under a cooperative agreement signed in October, NSI basically consented to operate the registry system for the most popular domains until 2000.
The registry function is akin to a wholesaler. Competition is being introduced initially by ICANN on the retail side, where registrars - including NSI - will compete for customers.
But the cooperative agreement left open certain issues, even though the countdown to competition
has already begun. In particular, companies that are considering entering the field still don't know what price the registry will charge registrars for each domain name sold. Another outstanding issue is the technical specifications for the electronic interface between the registrar system and the NSI system, as well as the terms of the contracts that will be entered into between registrars and the registry.
"From our position, we have to depend on the DoC and ICANN to work out what is the ongoing
relationship," says Sean Brophy, VP of corporate development at Verio, NSI's largest customer and a
major Web-hosting company. "This has not been terribly smooth," Brophy adds. "We are now seeing
a set of actions by people who are trying to position themselves very strongly."
Verio has not yet publicly announced whether it will apply to be a test registrar, but it is considered a likely candidate. Among the big-name companies that have inquired about entry to the domain-name marketplace, although they may not submit applications for the test, are MCI-WorldCom, America Online, Deutsche Telekom, France Telecom and even AT&T.
Meanwhile, smaller companies that have been acting as intermediaries between NSI and consumers fear they will lose out as InterNIC becomes associated with NSI's brand. "It's like being channel 3, 6
or 10 as opposed to 57," says Larry Erlich of Domainregistry.com.
First of their database is barely updated nowadays so your better off using their Shared Registration Service (SRS) database for queries here.
Secondly this should be unconstitutional being that the whois database is not theirs. Maybe they should advertise that and donate the money to ICANN ooops That'd probably hurt them more then it would help them since they seem to want to monopolize the Domain Registration business.
heh the John Gotti's of the Domain registration world.
Someone should wake them up from their domination fantasies. register.com registers more domain than they do.
Maybe they should join in the adverstising business and give NSI (network stupidity inc) a run for the monopolized cash.
home sweet home
Anyone have a sploit for this Playstation yet? Or should I old school it and left right left right up up down down left right left B A it?
First they had Extreme Fighting. Which was banned. Now they have the same version only its catered to bots. Someone call those bots a lawyer. Violence will never diminish if people continously create these petty "sports"
Besides what exactly is the purpose of this? To see who has the best bot? Please this is going a bit too far.
Damn where have you been? Theres a lot of great sites with tutorials on protecting yourself. Number one a lot of things should be common sense. Delete default accounts, use strong passwords, keep up on latest exploits via a security list, etc. Heres some links for ya ;)
But before I dew((do)doo)d00)
All this STO is big freaking joke.
Well maybe...just maybe if I hide my network vulnerabilities, people will just feel bad that I'm a shitty sys admin too lazy to fix the holes in my system
www.securityfocus.com -- Excellent resource for up-to-date news
www.securitysearch.net -- The Yahoo Search Engine of the Security World
www.enteract.com/~lspitz -- Very Informative
www.hackernews.com -- The CNN of the Hacking World
First off wasn't Tamagotchi Shomimura some type of security expert of some sort? It seems to be the case if he actually went and tracked him down. If he was such a "securityspert" why didn't he secure his boxen?
Entrapment I say. Kevin was a nobody who couldn't code in basic.
knock knock
who's there?
Kevin
Kevin who
Kevin Mitnick you got a crack for Windows95 beta for a Commodore 128?
check out our elite lock up kevin banner www.AntiOffline.com
I had a friend who dated this one hot chick years back. Her father had tons of businesses. He went to sleep over her house one night for obvious reasons. boom boom in come the feds and arrest everyone. Turns out her father was drug kingpin. My friend who had absolutely nothing to do with anything and hadn't a clue of the fathers business goes to court.
D.A.: If you turn rat you'll walk
Friend: I have nothing to do with it.
D.A.: Suffer
Friend? Sentenced to 15-Life served 8 years from the age of 18-26 and is now on parole. For the sake of some dipshit D.A. trying to make a name for himself. Surveillance shows my friend had nothing to do with crap.
Trial time: Surveillance tapes... Disappeared in the system. In order to try to catch a quote bigger fish my friends life was screwed up. Fuck the justice system in the U.S. its a distorted joke.
Mitnick case was a media joke to begin with. He was plain and simply used as a scapegoat and in return they created an overflow of scriptkiddies who used his name to hack anything and everything.
Have you ever been to T50.com? Go after those assholes and fry them too. Whats the difference? Give it a break. People get away with murder nowadays hint freaking hint OJ. So you mean to tell me you would rather have an OJ walking around then a Kevin? Give me a break. I know the story told from all sides. It seems you might have read good old tamagotchi b0y's version a bit more than most people have. Remember only certain people know what truly happened. Everything else is distorted by media wh0res. Do you really know what happened? Do you honestly know he was storing this info off hand or did you happen to read it at a hacker-biased news forum?
I'd definitely love a laugh today, so please do reply.
Oooops my bad next time I'll mention the word federal so you will have something relevant to say.
Did I mention federal? No I didn't I could've been talking about the Brit who collapsed the banking system over there for all you know. Next time think twice before making an ass of yourself.
Damn my bad again... Anonymous Coward says it all.
final words
It's only deserving since the media leaked tons of info, the whole case was screwy from the beginning, and Shomimura rebuilt his empire with the invention of the Tamagotchi pet. Come on if embezzlers can walk out of their jobs with millions and get a slap on the wrist then he too should've walked.
Oh well guess I'll have to change the FREE KEVIN buttons on my site to say LOCK UP KEVIN since srcipt kiddies no longer have anything to bitch about...
P.S. to the moron above who posted Mitnick is an asshole or idiot... I think your just a jealous little dipshit of someone who had and probably has more knowledge/skills than you.
n0w l3mm3 c4ll my skr1ptk1dd13 fr13nds%!$#
./eeye -sploit -microcrap
sil@macroshaft.org
Why don't people just leave the guy alone.
... well a crappy story...
I dislike Windows but have to admin NT servers at work and what I fail to understand is the criticism this guy gets for breathing. Walks down the street its a story. Takes a dump a story.
He did something positive for the computing community whether or not people accept that. Even with some of the flaws in the Windows operating system, it still is and will probably continue to be a dominating OS for years to come.
Show me a secretary thats ready to tar -xvf somefile.tar, or an executive thats willing to chmod 700 whateverfile and I'll shut up.
A lot of people buy books with fancy covers not knowing what the story is about. Same for OS'. People love easy set-ups, hassle free installs, etc. Microcrap provides new PC users with this so when the storyline starts most people see it ends up being
Blah at MS and the lawsuits they keep sending us for www.macroshaft.org
sil@antioffline.com
sil@macroshaft.org
gcc sleep.c -o sleep
./sleep
[root@destruxiOn.antioffline.com]#error sleep undefined
Why would anyone give NSI their credit card information over the net to them anyway?
... not once but twice.
Have you forgotten that they were HACKED
Hurry what the hell are you waiting for?
./sarcasm
Don't you wanna rush to register your domain with NSI? I mean they're service is absolutely the greatest. Call them anytime and have them modify your domain information, don't worry it may take a month but they will get to it eventually. What me worry... Questions? Sure send them an e-mail and after waiting 2-3 weeks they'll surely fire an incorrect templated response to you, but never fear their staff is on the case.
^z
I can see why they would start billing out domains on the spot, but it makes no difference their service totally sucks. But hey thats my opinion.
First off: Unfortunately you WILL have to go through NSI to make the change. www.networksolutions.com/makechanges/
When you fill out the form (hosting) they will send you a confirmation to the original e-mail address you used to register it. You have to reply to the confirmation. (HAVE TO) It normally takes about 3-4 weeks or more depending on when they decide to answer there damn e-mail. Be advised they do take a while. Until then no one over at register.com can do anything to force them to move it, or speed up the process.
Renewals: Being that the domain in question was more than likely registered through them, when renewal time comes around, you will have to have them release the domain back into the registry pool in order to re-register it. I'm sure you are aware that there is like a 90 day grace period they give the original owner to renew their domain. But since you wouldn't wanna wait, about a week or two before it expires contact NSI and tell them you have no intention to re-register with them and have decided to register the name elsewhere. They'll be pissed and probably will give you some mumbo jumbo response, but until the name is freed up you wont be able to just re-register it through register.com when it expires.
joquendo@register.com
Is it going to have yet another backdoor going to cDc?
;)
Now lets get realistic for a second. If it were worth anything more then a new script kiddie tool why not bring it out at PC expo as opposed to DefCon? Program something good for a change. And I don't mean that in the sense that the program sucks. You know damn well it's intentions are for the losers who wouldn't know how to hack a chicken with an ax point blank. Think of all the data thats going to be destroyed when some 14 year old loser download it and sweeps subnets because his little high school hoe just dumped him and now he wants to DELTREE your whole damn pc.
You and I both know the true purpose behind BO is just a slap in the face to Microcrap and a way to intrude networks and nothing more.
...by the way whats up to the l0pht section of you guys...
Image for a quick minute what it would be like if the cDc used their programming skills for something positive instead of this lame script kiddie visual basic junk. Great now I have to audit my NT server first thing when I get to work tommorow.
I find the legal disclaimer humorous... A remote administration tool? hah. Thats some funny shit. Oh well thank god I use SuSE and OpenBSD at home.
First of it's not set to SiteAmerica. It's set to mail.register.com which we change on demand and it gets change within 24 hours most of the time.
The MX hasnt been thrown into domain manage because the cgi scripts are still being worked on.
Picture this for a second as an Admin or Tech Support person in the Internet related field such as register.com
Customer: Hi, I just purchased WebTV and I want to host my domain on it. Also please set my MX info to l0ser.webtv.whatever.
--------snip-------
Currently it is being worked on and if anyone here needs an MX record changed or any other info for that matter I'll stick my foot in my mouth and offer my e-mail where I PERSONALLY will change the info for you. Any spams and I will block you in a heartbeat. Any moronic please redirect my domain to my PalmTop and I'll rm -f it.
-----end snip-----
joquendo@register.com
The only logical look-ups would be to go to www.nsiregistry.com or use register.com's lookup.
Besides, now you don't have to wait a couple of years to modify your domain by sending out e-mails that takes months to answer after filling out the forms over at NSI. With Domain Manager at register.com you can change your DNS information yourself without having to wait for two months just to get a confirmation, then another two months to have that confirmation answered. Simplicity. Enter your new DNS info, wait for most DNS servers' cache to reload usually about 4-6 hours and your in business.
sil@antioffline.com
http://www.antioffline.com
sil@macroshaft.org
http://www.macroshaft.org
root@regret.org
http://www.regret.org
joquendo@register.com
http://www.register.com
First off do they even update their database? Or do they still think they're the Sole-Registrars in this world?
Here's a hint go find out your whois info at www.register.com where everything is up to date by ICANN's standards. This way when you register your new spiffy site your hosting company won't bitch about not finding your info on the whois database. Since they don't seem to wanna update it, and have now thrown on some legal mumbo jumbo for using their half-assed whois service.
Which reminds me anyone visiting my site will now be subdued to sign a legal disclaimer stating they are entering my site for the sole purpose of wasting their life. Anything they see shall not be reproduced in their thoughts, ideas, conscious, etc.
DOWN with the evil empire of NSI
root@regret.org
sil@antioffline.com
sil@macroshaft.org
joquendo@register.com
IMHO I think they're stepping into the market to make a quick buck and thats the bottom line. I bought the BeOS 4 OS for 59 bucks to try it out and their lack of drivers sucked as much as their technical support. After e-mailing them with a simple question last month they've yet to respond. The search on their site is inconsistent and turned up "Under Re-Construction" pages that havent been updated according to the site since 1998. Now why would someone fork over cash to a company with the lack of support they have? Take into consideration that even crappy OS'es like MickeySoft send you a templated answer. While they may BS you with some 0-day irrelevant message it's nice to know at least you get an autoresponder.
The lack of security on the OS is also a joke.
Just my opinions, flame away.
root@regret.org
sil@macroshaft.org
sil@antioffline.com
Obviously this guy is clueless to the situation. And it should also be noted that anyone in their right mind would know that JP's petty threats mean jack sh!t. I get them all the time for running AntiOffline and I could care less what JP and his college dropout lawyer squad say or think. Hopefully Ken can retrieve his school work which is absolutely the most important part. Secondly I hope that this moronic childish, please-dont-call-me names outburst by that fag doesnt tarnish Ken's reputation which I highly doubt. Anyone who knows Ken, who has interacted with him knows he's a great guy 100%. Anyone else who begs to differ would be lying to themselves.
xp0rnstar Packet Storm Fan Club
sil@antioffline.com
sil@macroshaft.org
This has got to be the most moronic posting I've seen. Packet Storm Security provided Corporations, Governments, with knowledge in the security field. He did it out of the love for computing and security. His own time. Wasted down the drain because of some just as moronic as you with statements as the one you've just made. Have you ever been there? Have you ever interacted with Ken? Ken is one of the coolest people I've had the opportunity to even exchange e-mail with. It's people like him and his love for the field that make it worthwhile. You must be on a Commodore 64 with AOL to _not_ understand what his site closing means to people.
xp0rnstar
sil@antioffline.com
sil@macroshaft.org