I agree. There is no doubt that any employer who's given you an office is expecting benefit from this....likely in terms of productivity. Building pace has cost and value no matter what it is used for.
I used to cost and estimate in the printing industry and any estimate considered the value of space used. If a machine cost $50,000 but saved 500 square feet of space that may very well be cheaper in the long term than a $100,000 machine that saved none. I can't imagine any employer not considering this when assigning cubicles or office space. An office has to provide a benefit to the employer in the end.
You design for the military and you want us to feel sympathy for you?
Don't they still pay for things like "the $269 three-in. wrench; the $9,609 antenna hexagon wrench; the $10,630 antenna pulley puller tool" (http://www.webcom.com/ncecd/bp18.html#price)
And if you would read you would see that my arguement is backing up the grandparent - "I personally have seen this at several Borders stores in my area, and each time I mention this to the management I recieve blank "deer in the headlights" looks." - pointing out that the parent is wrong.
That the parent changed "management" to "checkout line" may be something you wish to be anal about, but the grandfather is clearly correct here.
These have been 'recalled' by SONY. The retail level is definitely the place to wage this portion of the battle. If this were Tuna and a recall were out you can be assured the 'tainted' cans would be off the shelf in minutes.
I wonder how culpable a store becomes when they sell a recalled product AND have been advised of that fact?
I've been using the HOST file supplied by <URL:http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm > the Microsoft MVPS site for the past few years and have not had ANY spyware or Malware or viruses on any of my machines.
I still run ad-aware and spybot monthly and never see anything but a few cookies. Once every few weeks I update my HOSTS file and then set it to read-only again and the 10,000 or so sites it blocks are just that - blocked.
Web sites load faster too without some of the tracked ad sites loading. From time to time I get pages that aren't found.....but I can review these as the HOST file is of course text.
I really do not know why HOST files are not a more common theme on here when setting one up on your Dad's computer saves you from removing crap from it as a hobby.
Quite right. A convicted felon can't own guns. So if we think he has guns we search his home. When nothing is found, we invade his home, kill his kids (and hey, post pictures of the dead bodies all over the place) and look harder until we find those guns.
When we don't find those guns, well......I suppose it's simply because he hid them too well.
As if refusing to open the cockpit doors would save lives. I would much rather the pilot watch a person get killed and make a sound choice in bringing the plane down safely then have him fly on his merry way while a hijacker is making his way to the cabin door on his way to crash the plane, essentially killing EVERYONE. Burying ones head in the sand is not the answer to security.
This is cool technology BUT I do not have a google start page. The defaults the day in question were not associated with any settings that I am aware of. I was at boingboing the day before looking up the stats after reading the earlier alert though so it may have read it from my history or some other such thing.
It is interesting to note that at least a couple of months ago I was alerted via google news alerts that http://boingboing.net/ reported via their stats that Firefox surpasses IE as the top visiting browser.
The very next day I received a google alert advising that start.com was being launched by Microsoft as a beta of the new home page. This has been up for a while at sandbox.msn.com as well.
The thing I found most noticable was that boingboing.net was listed on the start.com home page by default. If you look now IE is once again ahead of Firefox (albeit by a small margin) as the browser of choice amongst boingboing visitors.
I did not assume the boingboing inclusion was by chance.
Maybe it was.
I'll look through my google alert emails for these links in the next bit and reply with them should I find the "evidence".
My advice. Sign up for an MSN account. (free for 30 or 90 days if you ask).
Use true switch to import all your email etc. to MSN. Install MSN Explorer to a box and convert your imported email and address book to Outlook Express.
Your father now has his contact list available for gmail and all his email archived on his box.
I clearly commented that OEM policies prevented this. You then went on to spend 5 paragraphs explaining why OEM policies prevent this. So you agreed with me but replied as if you were correcting me. A bit odd but hey.
When people are throwing away computers to 'fix spyware' and then buying a new computer - and a new version of Windows XP - almost by force - then yes, profits will be up.
This shouldn't be the way.
The old version of xp should be more than enough for the new Hardware but Microsoft OEM policies almost prevent this.
This should be remedied by law. This is abuse of their almost monopoly.
The intent of my referring to the firewall was to permit a person to do all updates before being besieged with viruses. Not as a permanent security solution. I would never pretend that it was.
There is a built in firewall that can be turned on as well. Should have been turned on by default but anyone who's formatting an XP box for reinstall should know how to do this. Should. Might not. But should.
You can also download a hosts file for free from http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm/
This hosts file is updated regularly, and after putting it on a box you will find that adaware needs not be run anymore. And you block lots of ad sites as well. Why this isn't a more common simply solution I'm not sure.
That is doesn't turn on by default was a mistake in a pre SP2 box, but it really is a simple solution.
I am one of the unfortunate souls who offers phone support to windows users and I am still surprised with how often Dell, HP, etc. have their users use their System Recovery discs only to fail to have them turn the firewall on. I get the phone call the day of the restore with the user wondering why their computer is booting on it's own.
It takes less then 8 clicks of the mouse to turn it on.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Anyone who sells a windows XP box without the built in firewall on (or a firewall added) OR advise to the user on how this should be achieved should be fired. This goes for Internet Providers. When you 'bring' someone online, checking to see if the firewall is on takes 3 minutes and saves hour upon hour of frustration.
It's already in the public domain in many fashions. This is the issue.
When I walk into my neighborhood Ford dealership and ask the salesman about car A, then car B, the salesman says - "hey, you might be interested in this car over here" knowing a bit from my past choices what I like. This is freakin' common sense.
He's not driving a passenger car. That is more comparable to Joe Home User. He is operating a fleet of trucks or a racing car. To not test before he bought a new fleet or to enter a race without testing your new suspension would be remiss.
So you are implying that EVERY user MUST know the CONTENTS of EVERY file that he/she DOWNLOADS, even BEFORE looking at them or that person is deemed guilty?
Say goodbye to p2p if that were to be the case. And say good bye to downloads from newsgroups. The WWW is done too. How can I know what picture is to be shown to me on a page that I've not yet loaded?
Goatse is a pleasant example of people viewing unexpected pictures.
Whether or not a person is guilty is to be determined.....it is the assumption of guilt based upon the pictures being there that is bothersome.
Joe user goes to the newsgroups after reading about how to view naked pictures of women for free.
He has a fetish for small breasts and after searching for breasts in the newsgroup names find a category that suits him.
He then decidees to download all the jpg's from the above newsgroup along with 22 other newsgroups that sound like they might interest him.
He does this before he goes to bed and lets them download while he sleeps. He gets up in the morning and turns off this computer. Why not. He works all day. He forgets about downloading the pictures and doesn't look at them.
If some of those 10's of thousands of pictures is (even though the categories do not include young or pedophile or even teen) is he a convictable pedophile?
I would guess that if he is then EVERY user who downloads any pictures from Kazaa or any file from any newsgroup is at risk for downloading ANY supposed legal porn as the fact is that you DO NOT KNOW what is on the file you are about to open. Virus scanning doesn't help here.
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I actually did miss a 0 there. Had to laugh when I read the replies.
Maybe it's because clearer why I used to work as an estimator.
I agree. There is no doubt that any employer who's given you an office is expecting benefit from this....likely in terms of productivity. Building pace has cost and value no matter what it is used for.
I used to cost and estimate in the printing industry and any estimate considered the value of space used. If a machine cost $50,000 but saved 500 square feet of space that may very well be cheaper in the long term than a $100,000 machine that saved none. I can't imagine any employer not considering this when assigning cubicles or office space. An office has to provide a benefit to the employer in the end.
He posts while he's working. Which explains why he needs to work overtime. :P
Isn't a webpage essentially a set of files placed in a folder that are meant to be shared?
By their logic wouldn't any website containing copyrighted material be breaking the law?
Bizarre.
You design for the military and you want us to feel sympathy for you?
Don't they still pay for things like "the $269 three-in. wrench; the $9,609 antenna hexagon wrench; the $10,630 antenna pulley puller tool" (http://www.webcom.com/ncecd/bp18.html#price)
And if you would read you would see that my arguement is backing up the grandparent - "I personally have seen this at several Borders stores in my area, and each time I mention this to the management I recieve blank "deer in the headlights" looks." - pointing out that the parent is wrong.
That the parent changed "management" to "checkout line" may be something you wish to be anal about, but the grandfather is clearly correct here.
These have been 'recalled' by SONY. The retail level is definitely the place to wage this portion of the battle. If this were Tuna and a recall were out you can be assured the 'tainted' cans would be off the shelf in minutes.
I wonder how culpable a store becomes when they sell a recalled product AND have been advised of that fact?
Education is certainly the key.
:http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm > the Microsoft MVPS site for the past few years and have not had ANY spyware or Malware or viruses on any of my machines.
I've been using the HOST file supplied by <URL
I still run ad-aware and spybot monthly and never see anything but a few cookies. Once every few weeks I update my HOSTS file and then set it to read-only again and the 10,000 or so sites it blocks are just that - blocked.
Web sites load faster too without some of the tracked ad sites loading. From time to time I get pages that aren't found.....but I can review these as the HOST file is of course text.
I really do not know why HOST files are not a more common theme on here when setting one up on your Dad's computer saves you from removing crap from it as a hobby.
Quite right. A convicted felon can't own guns. So if we think he has guns we search his home. When nothing is found, we invade his home, kill his kids (and hey, post pictures of the dead bodies all over the place) and look harder until we find those guns.
When we don't find those guns, well......I suppose it's simply because he hid them too well.
As if refusing to open the cockpit doors would save lives. I would much rather the pilot watch a person get killed and make a sound choice in bringing the plane down safely then have him fly on his merry way while a hijacker is making his way to the cabin door on his way to crash the plane, essentially killing EVERYONE. Burying ones head in the sand is not the answer to security.
This is cool technology BUT I do not have a google start page. The defaults the day in question were not associated with any settings that I am aware of. I was at boingboing the day before looking up the stats after reading the earlier alert though so it may have read it from my history or some other such thing.
This start page has been out for months.
It is interesting to note that at least a couple of months ago I was alerted via google news alerts that
http://boingboing.net/ reported via their stats that Firefox surpasses IE as the top visiting browser.
The very next day I received a google alert advising that start.com was being launched by Microsoft as a beta of the new home page. This has been up for a while at sandbox.msn.com as well.
The thing I found most noticable was that boingboing.net was listed on the start.com home page by default. If you look now IE is once again ahead of Firefox (albeit by a small margin) as the browser of choice amongst boingboing visitors.
I did not assume the boingboing inclusion was by chance.
Maybe it was.
I'll look through my google alert emails for these links in the next bit and reply with them should I find the "evidence".
True Switch is defintly his best option.
It converts it all.
My advice. Sign up for an MSN account. (free for 30 or 90 days if you ask).
Use true switch to import all your email etc. to MSN. Install MSN Explorer to a box and convert your imported email and address book to Outlook Express.
Your father now has his contact list available for gmail and all his email archived on his box.
"Microsoft OEM policies almost prevent this."
I clearly commented that OEM policies prevented this. You then went on to spend 5 paragraphs explaining why OEM policies prevent this. So you agreed with me but replied as if you were correcting me. A bit odd but hey.
When people are throwing away computers to 'fix spyware' and then buying a new computer - and a new version of Windows XP - almost by force - then yes, profits will be up.
This shouldn't be the way.
The old version of xp should be more than enough for the new Hardware but Microsoft OEM policies almost prevent this.
This should be remedied by law. This is abuse of their almost monopoly.
The firewall WILL block Sasser and Blaster, etc.
The intent of my referring to the firewall was to permit a person to do all updates before being besieged with viruses. Not as a permanent security solution. I would never pretend that it was.
This hosts file is updated regularly, and after putting it on a box you will find that adaware needs not be run anymore. And you block lots of ad sites as well. Why this isn't a more common simply solution I'm not sure.
I said "less than 8 clicks" and if you read further I was also talking about on a non SP2 box.
There is no "windows firewall" option in control panel in a pre SP2 box by my recollection.
Turn on the built in windows firewall.
That is doesn't turn on by default was a mistake in a pre SP2 box, but it really is a simple solution.
I am one of the unfortunate souls who offers phone support to windows users and I am still surprised with how often Dell, HP, etc. have their users use their System Recovery discs only to fail to have them turn the firewall on. I get the phone call the day of the restore with the user wondering why their computer is booting on it's own.
It takes less then 8 clicks of the mouse to turn it on.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Anyone who sells a windows XP box without the built in firewall on (or a firewall added) OR advise to the user on how this should be achieved should be fired. This goes for Internet Providers. When you 'bring' someone online, checking to see if the firewall is on takes 3 minutes and saves hour upon hour of frustration.
It's already in the public domain in many fashions. This is the issue.
When I walk into my neighborhood Ford dealership and ask the salesman about car A, then car B, the salesman says - "hey, you might be interested in this car over here" knowing a bit from my past choices what I like. This is freakin' common sense.
Now if I do this on a website I'm infringing?
http://www.statcan.ca/english/census96/table1.htm/
According to the stats shown we have 5,000,000 million ACTIVE high speed hook-ups.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/ITFacts/?p=8160/
I just don't buy that HALF of the households in Canada have active high speed internet connectivity. Availability, yes. But active. No.
This is reality calling as well.
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According the last census in Canada (1996) we have just over 10 million households.
http://www.statcan.ca/english/census96/table1.h
According to the stats shown we have 5,000,000 million ACTIVE high speed hook-ups.
I just don't buy that HALF of the households in
Canada have active high speed internet connectivity. Availability, yes. But active. No.
Um. No.
He's not driving a passenger car. That is more comparable to Joe Home User. He is operating a fleet of trucks or a racing car. To not test before he bought a new fleet or to enter a race without testing your new suspension would be remiss.
So you are implying that EVERY user MUST know the CONTENTS of EVERY file that he/she DOWNLOADS, even BEFORE looking at them or that person is deemed guilty?
Say goodbye to p2p if that were to be the case. And say good bye to downloads from newsgroups. The WWW is done too. How can I know what picture is to be shown to me on a page that I've not yet loaded?
Goatse is a pleasant example of people viewing unexpected pictures.
Whether or not a person is guilty is to be determined.....it is the assumption of guilt based upon the pictures being there that is bothersome.
Joe user goes to the newsgroups after reading about how to view naked pictures of women for free.
He has a fetish for small breasts and after searching for breasts in the newsgroup names find a category that suits him.
He then decidees to download all the jpg's from the above newsgroup along with 22 other newsgroups that sound like they might interest him.
He does this before he goes to bed and lets them download while he sleeps. He gets up in the morning and turns off this computer. Why not. He works all day. He forgets about downloading the pictures and doesn't look at them.
If some of those 10's of thousands of pictures is (even though the categories do not include young or pedophile or even teen) is he a convictable pedophile?
I would guess that if he is then EVERY user who downloads any pictures from Kazaa or any file from any newsgroup is at risk for downloading ANY supposed legal porn as the fact is that you DO NOT KNOW what is on the file you are about to open. Virus scanning doesn't help here.