Well indeed. VNC is a hassle. But so is remote X! Have you ever tried to connect to an existing X session remotely (VNC-style)? I'm fairly sure it is not possible.
That is one of the many reasons why a replacement for X11 is needed.
You are assuming the tape you put over the camera is not transparent at IR or UV light frequencies - think of the Sony 'night-vision' cameras that could see through clothes.
Haha, seriously? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week!
Ok, so basically there's three Gods, and they're all God. And each one is also God. Jesus is God, Jesus's Father, God, is also God. Oh and there's the Holy Spirit - that's God too.
At least that's what it says in the bible. It makes no sense, but the bible is Truth (tm) so Christians spend an inordinate amount of trying to understand how Jesus went back in time and became his own father.
Most twentysomethings won't be able distinguish HD audio from a 1940s telephone.
Did they have really high quality phones in the 1940s or something? Because anyone who isn't completely deaf could distinguish current phone call quality from "HD audio".
No he means how short it can be and still be a viable religion (as in it can reproduce in the minds of followers).
You'd *at least* have to include all the stuff about heaven, hell, God-still-likes-you-even-if-you-have-no-real-friends, etc. You could exclude all of Numbers, Deuteronomy, Revelations, probably most of the traditional Bible stories (Noah's ark, etc).
It's an interesting question, and your answer is idiotic (I thought you were against that?).
Yeah I know, but apparently LLVM "bytecode" is really compiler IR, and not really suitable as a language and machine neutral bytecode. (It has specific x86 instructions and so on. There was a widely-linked mailing list message a while ago about LLVM not being suitable for use as a low level virtual machine.)
I've looked at Dart. It seems like javascript but with all the "hey, that's actually fairly neat" features removed, and their stupid counterfeight-typing system added on. Yeah... counterfeight typing. You heard it here first. Looks and sounds like static typing, but it isn't.
They probably *wanted* it to be static typing but supporting compile-to-javascript meant it was easier for them just to say "sod it, let's make it dynamically typed and call them 'annotations'". That's the only sane explanation for the insanity I can come up with anyway.
I still don't see why they couldn't have come up with a proper mostly-language-agnostic bytecode for the web. Like what LLVM sounds like it should be (but isn't).
Oh great - just what we need - yet another programming language
Not all languages are the same. Maybe your criticism is valid for C# / Java, but the other languages you list are all pretty different. Rust has some features, and certainly a unique combination of features (e.g. modern, and not garbage collected).
there ain't enough people to teach kids and adults the languages we already have
Well you don't actively need teachers to learn a language (tutorials, books, etc), nor do you have to learn every language in existence.
And 0.1, meaning it's currently unusable. Why not wait until 1.0 is ready before announcing it?
Maybe so interested people can follow its development, make suggestions, help write the compiler and so on?
That too w/ such an inspiring name as 'Rust'.
Jesus Christ who spat in your face this morning? Why are you such a pessimistic parade-pisser?
There's only so much you can do with a "solid class library". And there already *are* solid class libraries -- or do you think you could do a better job the your predecessors?
Yeah this is kind of pointless, and frankly I'm kind of pissed off the wikipedia actually blocked their site outside the US. What's the point? I'm already aware of it, and I can't really contact my congressman. A clickthrough would have been fine and would have spread the word just as well.
I think it would take me less time to implement a turtle-like environment in Matlab or C++ than it would to relearn Logo. And then I wouldn't have to use Logo.
I'm not saying Logo isn't cool; it just isn't cool for anything other than learning very basic programming by drawing pretty pictures. And I have no idea how you would use it in multi-agent systems research. Can you even have more than one turtle? How on earth do you do matrix multiplication in Logo?
I think upload speed is the killer feature for fibre. ADSL is effectively limited to 1 Mb/s upstream, which is pathetic. Hell, my phone has a better upstream bandwidth than that.
Things you need fast upstream bandwidth for: video conferencing, streaming videos (e.g. from your home computer to a friends house; 1 Mb/s is not enough), uploading photos to facebook (so tedious!), uploading music to google music, etc. All of those are currently really slow or don't really work.
Also, why do neither of these articles have the sounds to listen to? Seriously, this is as bad as all those articles about imaging that don't have pictures...
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Well indeed. VNC is a hassle. But so is remote X! Have you ever tried to connect to an existing X session remotely (VNC-style)? I'm fairly sure it is not possible.
That is one of the many reasons why a replacement for X11 is needed.
You are assuming the tape you put over the camera is not transparent at IR or UV light frequencies - think of the Sony 'night-vision' cameras that could see through clothes.
Haha, seriously? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week!
Ok, so basically there's three Gods, and they're all God. And each one is also God. Jesus is God, Jesus's Father, God, is also God. Oh and there's the Holy Spirit - that's God too.
At least that's what it says in the bible. It makes no sense, but the bible is Truth (tm) so Christians spend an inordinate amount of trying to understand how Jesus went back in time and became his own father.
Most twentysomethings won't be able distinguish HD audio from a 1940s telephone.
Did they have really high quality phones in the 1940s or something? Because anyone who isn't completely deaf could distinguish current phone call quality from "HD audio".
No he means how short it can be and still be a viable religion (as in it can reproduce in the minds of followers).
You'd *at least* have to include all the stuff about heaven, hell, God-still-likes-you-even-if-you-have-no-real-friends, etc.
You could exclude all of Numbers, Deuteronomy, Revelations, probably most of the traditional Bible stories (Noah's ark, etc).
It's an interesting question, and your answer is idiotic (I thought you were against that?).
Yeah I know, but apparently LLVM "bytecode" is really compiler IR, and not really suitable as a language and machine neutral bytecode. (It has specific x86 instructions and so on. There was a widely-linked mailing list message a while ago about LLVM not being suitable for use as a low level virtual machine.)
I've looked at Dart. It seems like javascript but with all the "hey, that's actually fairly neat" features removed, and their stupid counterfeight-typing system added on. Yeah... counterfeight typing. You heard it here first. Looks and sounds like static typing, but it isn't.
They probably *wanted* it to be static typing but supporting compile-to-javascript meant it was easier for them just to say "sod it, let's make it dynamically typed and call them 'annotations'". That's the only sane explanation for the insanity I can come up with anyway.
I still don't see why they couldn't have come up with a proper mostly-language-agnostic bytecode for the web. Like what LLVM sounds like it should be (but isn't).
writing of the frame story
Not sure about that one...
Oh great - just what we need - yet another programming language
Not all languages are the same. Maybe your criticism is valid for C# / Java, but the other languages you list are all pretty different. Rust has some features, and certainly a unique combination of features (e.g. modern, and not garbage collected).
there ain't enough people to teach kids and adults the languages we already have
Well you don't actively need teachers to learn a language (tutorials, books, etc), nor do you have to learn every language in existence.
And 0.1, meaning it's currently unusable. Why not wait until 1.0 is ready before announcing it?
Maybe so interested people can follow its development, make suggestions, help write the compiler and so on?
That too w/ such an inspiring name as 'Rust'.
Jesus Christ who spat in your face this morning? Why are you such a pessimistic parade-pisser?
There's only so much you can do with a "solid class library". And there already *are* solid class libraries -- or do you think you could do a better job the your predecessors?
ARM is no more complicated than Atmel... To be honest I think it is easier...
Seems like a strange decision to use an Atmel chip when everyone is moving to Cortex M-3.
Yeah this is kind of pointless, and frankly I'm kind of pissed off the wikipedia actually blocked their site outside the US. What's the point? I'm already aware of it, and I can't really contact my congressman. A clickthrough would have been fine and would have spread the word just as well.
Fortunately they didn't truely block the site. You can get around it with the bookmarklet on this page: http://concentriclivers.com/?p=I%20don't%20live%20in%20America%20and%20can't%20do%20anything%20about%20SOPA%20Wikipedia
Electrofluidic displays, but they are probably beyond the horizon.
I think it would take me less time to implement a turtle-like environment in Matlab or C++ than it would to relearn Logo. And then I wouldn't have to use Logo.
I'm not saying Logo isn't cool; it just isn't cool for anything other than learning very basic programming by drawing pretty pictures. And I have no idea how you would use it in multi-agent systems research. Can you even have more than one turtle? How on earth do you do matrix multiplication in Logo?
Yeah it's impossible with one microphone/speaker. Sorry batman.
I suppose in theory (read: it will never work) you could do it if you have lots of phones in an area. And you beefed up the phone speakers a lot.
Yeah... hence the two links to phoronix in TFS...!
I think upload speed is the killer feature for fibre. ADSL is effectively limited to 1 Mb/s upstream, which is pathetic. Hell, my phone has a better upstream bandwidth than that.
Things you need fast upstream bandwidth for: video conferencing, streaming videos (e.g. from your home computer to a friends house; 1 Mb/s is not enough), uploading photos to facebook (so tedious!), uploading music to google music, etc. All of those are currently really slow or don't really work.
You are correct. I didn't mean that foo +bar and "foo bar" are the same. Let me rephrase:
foo +bar -> foo "bar"
"foo bar" (or +"foo bar") -> "foo bar"
According to statcounter, Google still has an 83% share in the US...
+ was redundant. The only time it made a difference was for single words, and you can now achieve the same thing with quotes.
Before:
foo +bar
"foo bar"
+"foo bar" (this is the same as just "foo bar")
After:
foo "bar"
"foo bar"
"foo bar"
Erm, blackboards are still used...
Also, why do neither of these articles have the sounds to listen to? Seriously, this is as bad as all those articles about imaging that don't have pictures...
That's exactly what they want!
Seriously? Next you'll be posting about water-powered cars, or over unity devices...
Can we stick to real life please?
Nope, the patent is quite specific about there being an actual graphical thing that is dragged, and that there are graphical cues for the gesture.