Yes and of course we all know that none of those people could possibly have been wrong. When it comes to "what did they mean when they wrote the consistution", yes we all know that none of those people could possibly have been wrong. Duh.
Whether it was a good idea or not (it was, btw) can be debated. What they wrote, and what they THOUGHT and SAID they wrote cannot.
Don't like it? Amend the constitution. They even included a mechanism to do so. Built right in.
What the hell is this myth that some magic switch gets thrown that makes all of your computers stop working, forcing you to put a new version on? Don't want the new version? Keep using the old one!
Err...That violates microsoft's new licensing regime. Munich needed to upgraqde because MS was no longer supporting NT. Note that the article said that MS was willing to *LET* Munich go 6 years without a forced upgrade, instead of the standard 5. This is one of the things that Munich was objecting too. In some circles, that is known as "the point".
Yes they did. That's why they chose to report THAT week's stats. It's the old saying figures don't lie, but liars figutre. They wanted to show a drop in filesharing activity, so that they could FUD people into thinking that those "remaining" would be easier to trace. It was not accidental. It was a purposeful (mis)use of statistics, based on the belief that the average (or a significant subset thereof) file sharer is stupid.
Depends on what issues you think are important. For me,"Libertarian candidate" came in 100%, GWB came in 97%, Kerry came in 68%, Dean was somewhere around 40%. Sounds like we have different views on the issues, and different weightings. Sounds like a very healthy democracy where two people (even if one's Canadian!) can have the same first choice, and wildly different 2nd, 3rd,...15th choices.
Unfortunately, no. Numerous laws. Esp building codes and the like are proposed by trade/business associations who have copyrigthted the document. Then they sell the code to those who would like to follow the law. Usually, they insist that the laws in question not be posted electronically, as it infringes on thier copyright. Though, they graciously grant that you can go to a public building and peruse the "offical" copy. fer instance [pdf] this is where you can buy your very own copies of the laws in question in this case.
do you think anyone's gonna write "worked for Chinese military intelligence as a spy" on their resume? Hey...that's not a bad idea. If you're gonna pad, you might as well PAD! And it's not like it'd be easy to check the reference...
anything that can't be known by the public, even after the fact, probably shouldn't be done. I'm sure that the Afgahn nationals passing on intelligence to the CIA fully agree with you. The Taliban and AQ wouldn't hold a grudge. I'm sure the British agent(s) who infiltrated the IRA agree wholeheartedly. Why, after 10 years, they could all get together and share a pint down at the pub. Likewise, the informant who decides to turn in a mob boss.
I'm just about as libertarian and pro-transparency as the next guy...But We DO live on earth.
OK, this is my last reply, as you obviously are not interested in serious discussion, as evidenced by your selective snippage and failure to even pretend to consider other opinions. SPAM is commonly understood to be commercial. If you want it to define it otherwise, that's fine. However, for most people, CONTENT matters. Further, if it got through their filters, he had consent. That's how the internet works. It's "Common Law", not "Napoleonic Code".
This is no different than him walking in and posting messages on the Intel bulletin board after being fired. If permission was revoked, he has no right to be let in. And if permission was revoked, he would not have been let in. The security guard would eject him, or the firewall would refuse his IP, or the filters would reject e-mails from his address.
I know return you to your "he's an evil spammer" rant, already in progress.
And no (err, relatively rarely) individual spammer causes harm to a server. Therefore spam is fine then, right?
Fer cry'n out loud! This case is NOT about spam. This case is not about Unsolicited Commercial (bulk or otherwise) E-mail. The fact that you seem to want it to be indicates that you know you are incorrect. However, to address the (non)issue you attempt to raise, this is completely different in character and content from spam. First, it was NON commercial, Second, it was not deceptive (either in subject or sender information), and Third it wasn't bulk. If you are going to insist that people are only allowed to send e-mail to people after getting explicit approval to use every computer the bits pass through, e-mail is going to significantly different than it is today.
AFAIK.You are incorrect. Read the decision.
For their own server, they write the rules. And one of the rules, if they connect to the internet, is that they will get traffic from the internet. They can refine that rule and say that they only accept certain types of traffic (i.e. firewall/filters). That's the way e-mail works. If they only want to allow certain people "on company property", they can do that. If they want to only allow traffic from specific IPs, they can do that, too.
In this case, because the POINT of an e-mail server is to *accept* e-mail (subject to filters/firewalls) that's what they DO. That is thier reason for existence. This is a case involving an individual using e-mail exactly as it was intended, not a a mailbomber causing harm to the server.
If the individual provably went around said filters, we would be discussing a different case.
I would rather play "whack-a-mole" (which this isn't btw) all day long rather than make e-mail impractical. Again, we are not dealing with a spammer, but with someone who sent PERSONAL e-mail to employees of a company.
Even if it's on the property, the act of throwing it away is EXPLICITLY saying "I don't want this possesion any more". There have been a number of court cases (one in Portland made it onto/. a while back), which have established exactly that.
Trespass may still be an issue, but it would be an issue for Jo Anne fabrics (owner of said dumpster, and thrower-away of patterns), not McCall's.
You may need to widen your circle of friends (or awareness of different subcultures). That isn't meant as a troll or swipe at you personally. I personally know 8 people who sew as a hobby. Only one is over 60. Two others are over 40. The other 5 are in thier 20s to mid 30s. Of the 8, 7 use a computer on a regular basis, 5 of them at home as well as work. 3 of them (that I know of) are part of online sewing/knitting groups. One of them is a software contractor. there is a (fairly large) niche market for pattern-making/designing software. There is also a fair-sized market in machines that you can program with said patterns. The 60+ YO's machine can do just about everything except go to the store and buy the fabric.
I don't pretend to follow it all that closely, but the whole sewing/knitting hobby/subculture is alive and kicking. It probably rivals the Ham people in numbers.(Yes, yes, I know "Ham is dying, film at 11")
That said, if the internet "is responsible" for declining sales, it's because they have failed to adapt to a changing business environment.
OP is correct. It HAD been allowed at one time (and I likewise made use of the provision)to have MS software installed on multiple machines as long as it was IN USE on only one at a time. THEN MS specifically changed it's licensing to disallow *installation* on more than one computer. They recently changed thier policy again, in order to try to regain some goodwill, IMHO. I don't have the dates handy, but I'll bet another/.'er does.
I agree. I've had my Kyocera 6035 for over a year now, use it every day, and love it. The only things that I would change are 1)add a Color screen , and 2) get a somewhat smaller form factor. It's about the same size as a regular palm pilot, which makes it huge in terms of current gen cell phones. When it gives up the ghost, I will move straight to the 7100, or to an equivalent *nix based one.
Reminds me of the Sam Kineson routine about famine. If people can't be bothered to go where the jobs they want are, and don't wanna do the available jobs where they are at,... Well, let's just say that they don't have my sympathy.
except that, since '88 (when I started dating my then-future-x-wife, and started caring about the field), I have seen at least 3 regional feast/famine cycles in the supply of teachers.
shortages in teaching, and other jobs that require extensive preparation to enter.
Nah, it's no more complicated than an delay in the supply-demand feedback loop. When there is a shortage of teachers, you get many people going for teaching certs. When many people graduate with teaching certs, there is a glut, and people can't get jobs. fewer people pursue teaching certs. As people move out of the field, there is a shortage. Rinse, lather, repeat. Everything else doesn't really exceed the level of statistical noise. When I was married to the teacher, I made it about halfway through a MEd/teaching cert program, before I (thankfully) got hit with the cluestick.
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Pate.
Really, you're asking this on /. ?
Tell him to ba a man, and take one for the team!
[for the impared, that was humor.]
Yes and of course we all know that none of those people could possibly have been wrong.
When it comes to "what did they mean when they wrote the consistution", yes we all know that none of those people could possibly have been wrong. Duh.
Whether it was a good idea or not (it was, btw) can be debated. What they wrote, and what they THOUGHT and SAID they wrote cannot.
Don't like it? Amend the constitution. They even included a mechanism to do so. Built right in.
What the hell is this myth that some magic switch gets thrown that makes all of your computers stop working, forcing you to put a new version on? Don't want the new version? Keep using the old one!
Err...That violates microsoft's new licensing regime. Munich needed to upgraqde because MS was no longer supporting NT. Note that the article said that MS was willing to *LET* Munich go 6 years without a forced upgrade, instead of the standard 5. This is one of the things that Munich was objecting too. In some circles, that is known as "the point".
Yes they did. That's why they chose to report THAT week's stats.
It's the old saying figures don't lie, but liars figutre. They wanted to show a drop in filesharing activity, so that they could FUD people into thinking that those "remaining" would be easier to trace.
It was not accidental. It was a purposeful (mis)use of statistics, based on the belief that the average (or a significant subset thereof) file sharer is stupid.
You mean that COMPETENT democrats would have engaged in the "politics of destruction" and smear campaigning?...
Funny thing is, I think you're right. Given what they had for issues, I would have gone for the mud too.
Depends on what issues you think are important. ...15th choices.
For me,"Libertarian candidate" came in 100%, GWB came in 97%, Kerry came in 68%, Dean was somewhere around 40%. Sounds like we have different views on the issues, and different weightings. Sounds like a very healthy democracy where two people (even if one's Canadian!) can have the same first choice, and wildly different 2nd, 3rd,
Apple-Hungary
Apple doesn't do direct sales in Hungary. You have to buy from one of their distributors, which they list.
Unfortunately, no.
Numerous laws. Esp building codes and the like are proposed by trade/business associations who have copyrigthted the document. Then they sell the code to those who would like to follow the law. Usually, they insist that the laws in question not be posted electronically, as it infringes on thier copyright. Though, they graciously grant that you can go to a public building and peruse the "offical" copy. fer instance [pdf] this is where you can buy your very own copies of the laws in question in this case.
do you think anyone's gonna write "worked for Chinese military intelligence as a spy" on their resume?
Hey...that's not a bad idea. If you're gonna pad, you might as well PAD! And it's not like it'd be easy to check the reference...
anything that can't be known by the public, even after the fact, probably shouldn't be done.
I'm sure that the Afgahn nationals passing on intelligence to the CIA fully agree with you. The Taliban and AQ wouldn't hold a grudge.
I'm sure the British agent(s) who infiltrated the IRA agree wholeheartedly. Why, after 10 years, they could all get together and share a pint down at the pub.
Likewise, the informant who decides to turn in a mob boss.
I'm just about as libertarian and pro-transparency as the next guy...But We DO live on earth.
OK, this is my last reply, as you obviously are not interested in serious discussion, as evidenced by your selective snippage and failure to even pretend to consider other opinions.
SPAM is commonly understood to be commercial. If you want it to define it otherwise, that's fine. However, for most people, CONTENT matters. Further, if it got through their filters, he had consent. That's how the internet works. It's "Common Law", not "Napoleonic Code".
This is no different than him walking in and posting messages on the Intel bulletin board after being fired. If permission was revoked, he has no right to be let in.
And if permission was revoked, he would not have been let in. The security guard would eject him, or the firewall would refuse his IP, or the filters would reject e-mails from his address.
I know return you to your "he's an evil spammer" rant, already in progress.
And no (err, relatively rarely) individual spammer causes harm to a server. Therefore spam is fine then, right?
Fer cry'n out loud! This case is NOT about spam. This case is not about Unsolicited Commercial (bulk or otherwise) E-mail. The fact that you seem to want it to be indicates that you know you are incorrect.
However, to address the (non)issue you attempt to raise, this is completely different in character and content from spam. First, it was NON commercial, Second, it was not deceptive (either in subject or sender information), and Third it wasn't bulk. If you are going to insist that people are only allowed to send e-mail to people after getting explicit approval to use every computer the bits pass through, e-mail is going to significantly different than it is today.
AFAIK.You are incorrect. Read the decision.
For their own server, they write the rules.
And one of the rules, if they connect to the internet, is that they will get traffic from the internet. They can refine that rule and say that they only accept certain types of traffic (i.e. firewall/filters). That's the way e-mail works. If they only want to allow certain people "on company property", they can do that. If they want to only allow traffic from specific IPs, they can do that, too.
In this case, because the POINT of an e-mail server is to *accept* e-mail (subject to filters/firewalls) that's what they DO. That is thier reason for existence. This is a case involving an individual using e-mail exactly as it was intended, not a a mailbomber causing harm to the server.
If the individual provably went around said filters, we would be discussing a different case.
I would rather play "whack-a-mole" (which this isn't btw) all day long rather than make e-mail impractical.
Again, we are not dealing with a spammer, but with someone who sent PERSONAL e-mail to employees of a company.
The owner of a mail server can refuse any e-mail for any reason.
Correct, and they do this via firewalls/filters. NOT lame lawsuits.
Even if it's on the property, the act of throwing it away is EXPLICITLY saying "I don't want this possesion any more". There have been a number of court cases (one in Portland made it onto /. a while back), which have established exactly that.
Trespass may still be an issue, but it would be an issue for Jo Anne fabrics (owner of said dumpster, and thrower-away of patterns), not McCall's.
You may need to widen your circle of friends (or awareness of different subcultures). That isn't meant as a troll or swipe at you personally.
I personally know 8 people who sew as a hobby. Only one is over 60. Two others are over 40. The other 5 are in thier 20s to mid 30s. Of the 8, 7 use a computer on a regular basis, 5 of them at home as well as work. 3 of them (that I know of) are part of online sewing/knitting groups. One of them is a software contractor. there is a (fairly large) niche market for pattern-making/designing software. There is also a fair-sized market in machines that you can program with said patterns. The 60+ YO's machine can do just about everything except go to the store and buy the fabric.
I don't pretend to follow it all that closely, but the whole sewing/knitting hobby/subculture is alive and kicking. It probably rivals the Ham people in numbers.(Yes, yes, I know "Ham is dying, film at 11")
That said, if the internet "is responsible" for declining sales, it's because they have failed to adapt to a changing business environment.
OP is correct. /.'er does.
It HAD been allowed at one time (and I likewise made use of the provision)to have MS software installed on multiple machines as long as it was IN USE on only one at a time.
THEN MS specifically changed it's licensing to disallow *installation* on more than one computer. They recently changed thier policy again, in order to try to regain some goodwill, IMHO.
I don't have the dates handy, but I'll bet another
MIT's insurance carrier just raised thier liability rates...
I agree.
I've had my Kyocera 6035 for over a year now, use it every day, and love it. The only things that I would change are 1)add a Color screen , and 2) get a somewhat smaller form factor. It's about the same size as a regular palm pilot, which makes it huge in terms of current gen cell phones.
When it gives up the ghost, I will move straight to the 7100, or to an equivalent *nix based one.
Reminds me of the Sam Kineson routine about famine.
If people can't be bothered to go where the jobs they want are, and don't wanna do the available jobs where they are at,...
Well, let's just say that they don't have my sympathy.
Good points, all.
except that, since '88 (when I started dating my then-future-x-wife, and started caring about the field), I have seen at least 3 regional feast/famine cycles in the supply of teachers.
Could you send me your dad's travel itenery?
I'd like to not be anywhere he's just left.
shortages in teaching, and other jobs that require extensive preparation to enter.
Nah, it's no more complicated than an delay in the supply-demand feedback loop. When there is a shortage of teachers, you get many people going for teaching certs. When many people graduate with teaching certs, there is a glut, and people can't get jobs. fewer people pursue teaching certs. As people move out of the field, there is a shortage. Rinse, lather, repeat.
Everything else doesn't really exceed the level of statistical noise.
When I was married to the teacher, I made it about halfway through a MEd/teaching cert program, before I (thankfully) got hit with the cluestick.