I have to agree with the original poster on this thread and the one I'm replying to also.
You have to get into the mind of the consumer and the supplier of software.
The consumer wants great stuff for low prices with little difficulty. If he can buy one copy of software and run it on any computer that is a good thing, if it's stable then he/she can spend more time having fun and less time rebooting, if it's easy to install and trivial to configure more the better.
The supplier wants customers to buy goods that can be produced for the least expense. Writing games for many operating systems is expensive. Support becomes an issue.
Now let us examine the average LINUX user. Competant with computers, not liking flacky and unstable software, adventurous. Most are do-it-yourselfers. And, while we all want the great games, we must make it worth the effort of the game developers to provide product.
Critical mass will be reached when it becomes attractive to consumers and suppliers alike. Consumers spend money; suppliers want that money. Consumers will not buy something if they can't get it, find it, afford it, or percieve that it is worth something; suppliers wont provide something unless the percieve that it will be bought. We must work on the suppliers by providing attractive incentives for them to provide products; when the products are there, the consumers will begin to buy.
This brings me to my point. We must make it EASY for suppliers of software to supply it and show that the market is there. We are a growing market of savvy folks aren't we?
Wine is just an attempt at embracing Microsoft's world... ever here of "If you can't beat em... embrace and extend em?" Hehe
It's been a while since I've posted so here goes...
I like Netscape 6.0. I think it's a pretty slick browser for a complete rewrite, a bold move on the part of Netscape, and a very promising platform for web development. Kudos to the Mozilla team!
As for slick, I think the user interface is very smooth and easy to use albiet a little more polish could be applied to make it even better. I've had no problems with the UI at all.
A bold move because Netscape has finally brought their browser up to the state of standards compliance it should have had long ago and that it has largely embraced the Open Source movement to do it - ensuring Netscape's ability to keep abreast of new developments and to quickly adopt W3C standards.
And, a very promising web development platform in that these new technologies and standards are going to allow some pretty interesting things to be done with the browser; bringing Netscape's original vison of the browser as a vehicle upon which advanced internetworked and crossplatform applications can be constructed.
Why is it that Anonymous Cowards have some of the best points to make yet oftentimes don't get seen? Oh well, back to the point.
Copyright Infringement is a fancy term for theft - plain and simple. If it is inferred that you shouldn't sue the vehicle... I agree! Sue the driver - that is what Metallica is doing. If you say that the young will be intimidated by this action brought by Metallica's lawyers; then that is surely the intention! I think the action is drastic for sure but it seems that they, Metallica's lawyers, feel that there is no other option?
I'm all for freedom! The more the better. But, my freedom ends where your freedom begins. I don't have the freedom to walk across your land without getting permission to pass, I don't have the freedom to steal your car, and I don't have the freedom to go into your house and take stuff; should people have the freedom to (Dare I say it?) pirate music and other works of intellect? I say no.
I love my MP3's but.. if it comes to a choice between Napster and Metallica... I choose Metallica. Yeh-heaaah!
Just as much a virus as any other...
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and even harder to eradicate as it's livelihood is dependant on human gullibility. Sadly to say, the problem is difficult to fix as it would require a total rewrite of DNA.
I guess getting SPAM and other junk mail is the price of freedom and privacy. Is it possible to have one without the other?
I've deleted this email at least 10 times...
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I'm getting sick of it... I don't see it anymore though... it's in the killfile.
I know the email's a joke but certain less than robust persons will believe it!
I've got no problems with mainframes; I think they're pretty cool. The very fact that they did it proves their, IBM's, prowess in computing systems.
I wouldn't want to run Linux on anything less than one OS instance per processor. Such a system would make a fine Beowulf cluster due to the fact that the internal bandwidth of the mainframe is higher than an method of network wiring available today. It would be truly awesome. I know there is overhead in running multiple kernels and supporting drivers and such but it should be faster than discreet machines.
Microsoft probably sees VMWare as just another OEM. I mean... look at it! They, Microsoft, probably would prefer that if you were to purchase VMWare, you'd have to purchase a copy of Windows with it or do without. I, for one, have an old licensed copy of Win95 that would do just fine thank you very much! I see no reason to buy another copy everytime I buy a new machine - virtual or otherwise.
I will consider VMWare a product that is recomendable by me until such time as you can't buy it without purchasing another copy of Windows.
I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to purchase VMWare.
are the ones who rarely get hit by viruses. The saying, "Prevention is worth a pound of cure" has never been more true.
If you are a Windows user, having Anti-Virus Scanners and Shields are a must. As is, utilizing safe practices like not running any code that is attached to mail or other documents without being real sure of it's being safe. Running cute little programs distributed by email is a good way to be infected with viruses!
Many of the same common sense ideas about viruses in Windows also holds true for any system including Linux. If you get code or programs from untrusted sources, you run the risk of getting hacked. With Linux, though, the source is open and under the scrutiny of many eyes - this tends to eliminate such vulnerabilities.
Bottom line: Safe practices will prevent the lion's share of problems.
Patrick Volkerding is one of the most knowledgeable members of the community. I learned alot from Slakware and consider it one of the prime LINUX distributions.
I, however, am looking forward to LSB and hope that it is finished soon; I respect Mr. Volkerding's opinion on LSB's non-application to Slakware but also believe that LINUX needs LSB. It would be great if Mr. Volkerding would lend his guiding hand toward helping LSB - maybe it would be even better than it is now.
My Question: Will you please assist LSB even if you have no desire to adhere to it?
stored in the form of sugars. H2O and CO2 are utilized to create the sugars - oxygen is released as a byproduct of this process. The plant still needs oxygen to metabolize the sugar, much as we do, so, under adverse conditions, it evidently splits water to get at the oxygen so it may utilize it's sugar and then release the excess hydrogen. This is my understanding of the process.
Wouldn't it be interesting if animals had more of the capabilities of plants at food production?
Jesus Christ said something to the effect of: Judge not lest ye be judged. In other words, it's those people's choice to be homosexuals or baby killers; it's not up to christians to fight them with violence or judge them. Christians should inform them and let them make their own decision.
Linux is already a snappy server and it's becoming a wonderful desktop OS. I use it exclusively for Desktop and as a Server too.
As soon as Enhanced PnP and XFree86 4.0 are a reality, Linux will make new friends on the desktop. It's inevitable!
I think XFree86 4.0 will be the biggest leap for the desktop in quite some time. I'm not holding my breath but... I'm so excited I can hardly wait. (but I will).
I built myself an Athlon 500 machine with a GeForce (the highend version) Pro? I had consistent lockups in 3D Mode.
Ended up replacing it with a Voodoo3-3000 and had no more lockups. The Voodoo3-3000, while very nice, is no match for the video quality and speed of the GeForce card.
I'll probably go back to the GeForce card if these drivers turn out to be stable. The video quality is just... STUNNING!
Congrats to NVidia for getting on the ball and supporting their users!! Thank you.
It stated that researchers are usually required to back up their research and request for grants with all kinds of proofs and peer reviews; then this guy comes along with wild unsubstatiated claims and ends up with all kinds of funding.
You can imagine what's going through Dr. Anderson's mind. Maybe: Start heating the tar and get the feathers.
Oh, and you may have crawled from primordial slime but I most certainly did not! I crawled from primordial soup. Mmmm... Primordial Soup(tm) - it's good for you.
The Good Ole Days weren't really that good. I mean... it was DARK and all in them ages - right?
>I am so sick of hearing about god, and people >trying to say what god wants us to do and what >he doesn't want us to do. Who says god didn't >lay everything out perfectly so we would >discover how to create our own little organisms >at that exact moment?
Well, most people generally find out what God seems to want by reading the Bible. It also states in the Bible that God has set us back from where we'd advanced to more than once. READ.
>Who says god exists?
That is what each man and woman must find out for themselves. It's the whole point.
>On the subject of man destroying the >environment... I'm all for keeping the >environment healthy, but surely you can't >equate creating a new organism in a >laboratory as eclologically distressing. >I could see creating a new organism with >the purpose of altering something, and >releasing it into the wild, but that's >another story.
I'll give you an example: Africanized Bees. They weren't released... they escaped. If we can't control arthropods... what makes you think we can control bacteria?
>Mars? How would we ruin mars? It's a wasteland >as far as I see, and if we don't find life >anywhere in it then I say it's free reign.
I agree. And THAT is were I'd have them do thier genetic research OR maybe the Moon or a Space Station.
>Survival of the fittest. If there is some >organism on mars that may one day evolve into >something sentient and wonderful then great, >let it try. But if it's wiped out by expanding >humans then it probably wouldn't have become >so wonderful. Evolution teaches us that >smart/savvy/stronger animals live and >proliferate, while stupid/slow/weak animals >die off and fade into the background or >become extinct.
This statement fits into the Theory of Evolution nicely. Does it also mean that we are stupid and deserving of extinction if we create a virus or bacterium that annihilates us? I think the answer is yes.
>Maybe if a substantial portion of earths >humans move to another planet then earth's >ecology can start working harder and get back >into the point of healthy.
I didn't mean to convey the idea that humanity hasn't aspired to Playing God; quite the contrary, it is our attempts at Playing God that brought about our repeated chastisements according to biblical history.
I know some may not adhere to the biblical teachings and I can deal with that but... those teachings and writings do have a VERY IMPRESSIVE RECORD of being correct. Look at the order of events in Genesis itself! While not a verbatim account of the beginning, it carries much fact that pure empirical science agrees with. I think the Bible is a most interesting and important work - a friend in paper.
I go about almost everything I do with a scientific point of view (which gets me into trouble sometimes) and gathering information from the Bible while looking at it from a scientific point of view yields much useful information - especially when taken as a whole and not out of context. It's absolutely uncanny!
So, if we're Playing God now... what may we expect to happen?
The fact that the Greeks, in general, were a long lived group is widely accepted; the reason why they lived so long is also interesting. I have read more than one version of the widely-held theory that DIET and EXCERCISE played a vital part in the longevity of greeks. I believe their diet usually consisted of a kind of gruel, fish/seafood, wine and olives - very little harmful fat. Take a greek and feed him fatty food all his life and he'll have a more *normal* life expectancy. For a present day parallel to the greeks lifespan and reason why, just check the statistics on people from the Caucasus - they live a long time and eat lots of yoghurt.:)
To throw something in... the Spartans practiced a kind of infant culling in that babies that were weak, or judged sickly, were left exposed to the elements. Only the strongest children were given the opportunity to live. In other words, the spartans bred themselves for health, strength and virility for hundreds of years - voluntarily. They were famed for their physical prowess but laughed at for their ignorance of logic. The Spartans were defeated by the lowly and physically weaker Corinthians by use of a new deep phalanx tactic. Sparta's military power was broken forever.
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Hey, been away a while and glad to be back.
I have to agree with the original poster on this thread and the one I'm replying to also.
You have to get into the mind of the consumer and the supplier of software.
The consumer wants great stuff for low prices with little difficulty. If he can buy one copy of software and run it on any computer that is a good thing, if it's stable then he/she can spend more time having fun and less time rebooting, if it's easy to install and trivial to configure more the better.
The supplier wants customers to buy goods that can be produced for the least expense. Writing games for many operating systems is expensive. Support becomes an issue.
Now let us examine the average LINUX user. Competant with computers, not liking flacky and unstable software, adventurous. Most are do-it-yourselfers. And, while we all want the great games, we must make it worth the effort of the game developers to provide product.
Critical mass will be reached when it becomes attractive to consumers and suppliers alike. Consumers spend money; suppliers want that money. Consumers will not buy something if they can't get it, find it, afford it, or percieve that it is worth something; suppliers wont provide something unless the percieve that it will be bought. We must work on the suppliers by providing attractive incentives for them to provide products; when the products are there, the consumers will begin to buy.
This brings me to my point. We must make it EASY for suppliers of software to supply it and show that the market is there. We are a growing market of savvy folks aren't we?
Wine is just an attempt at embracing Microsoft's world... ever here of "If you can't beat em... embrace and extend em?" Hehe
Just wanted to go on the record as saying thanks to Linus and the whole Kernel Crew for the LINUX 2.4 Kernel.
Thanks all!
It's been a while since I've posted so here goes...
I like Netscape 6.0. I think it's a pretty slick browser for a complete rewrite, a bold move on the part of Netscape, and a very promising platform for web development. Kudos to the Mozilla team!
As for slick, I think the user interface is very smooth and easy to use albiet a little more polish could be applied to make it even better. I've had no problems with the UI at all.
A bold move because Netscape has finally brought their browser up to the state of standards compliance it should have had long ago and that it has largely embraced the Open Source movement to do it - ensuring Netscape's ability to keep abreast of new developments and to quickly adopt W3C standards.
And, a very promising web development platform in that these new technologies and standards are going to allow some pretty interesting things to be done with the browser; bringing Netscape's original vison of the browser as a vehicle upon which advanced internetworked and crossplatform applications can be constructed.
Why is it that Anonymous Cowards have some of the best points to make yet oftentimes don't get seen? Oh well, back to the point.
Copyright Infringement is a fancy term for theft - plain and simple. If it is inferred that you shouldn't sue the vehicle... I agree! Sue the driver - that is what Metallica is doing. If you say that the young will be intimidated by this action brought by Metallica's lawyers; then that is surely the intention! I think the action is drastic for sure but it seems that they, Metallica's lawyers, feel that there is no other option?
I'm all for freedom! The more the better. But, my freedom ends where your freedom begins. I don't have the freedom to walk across your land without getting permission to pass, I don't have the freedom to steal your car, and I don't have the freedom to go into your house and take stuff; should people have the freedom to (Dare I say it?) pirate music and other works of intellect? I say no.
I love my MP3's but.. if it comes to a choice between Napster and Metallica... I choose Metallica. Yeh-heaaah!
and even harder to eradicate as it's livelihood is dependant on human gullibility. Sadly to say, the problem is difficult to fix as it would require a total rewrite of DNA.
I guess getting SPAM and other junk mail is the price of freedom and privacy. Is it possible to have one without the other?
I'm getting sick of it... I don't see it anymore though... it's in the killfile.
I know the email's a joke but certain less than robust persons will believe it!
I hope your sig is open source... because, I've made a modification you might like.
:)
From:
10 PRINT "THIS IS MY SIG" 20 GOTO 10
To:
10 PRINT "THIS IS MY SIG": GOTO 10
Or this variation:
10 PRINT "THIS IS MY SIG... ";:GOTO 10
Or this:
10 SIG$="THIS IS MY SIG.":FOR X = 1 TO LEN(SIG$):PRINT LEFT$(SIG$, X):NEXT X: GOTO 10
Oh... to stay on topic... Linux on IBM Mainframes rock!
I've got no problems with mainframes; I think they're pretty cool. The very fact that they did it proves their, IBM's, prowess in computing systems.
I wouldn't want to run Linux on anything less than one OS instance per processor. Such a system would make a fine Beowulf cluster due to the fact that the internal bandwidth of the mainframe is higher than an method of network wiring available today. It would be truly awesome. I know there is overhead in running multiple kernels and supporting drivers and such but it should be faster than discreet machines.
Anybody have any idea why it wouldn't work?
Microsoft probably sees VMWare as just another OEM. I mean... look at it! They, Microsoft, probably would prefer that if you were to purchase VMWare, you'd have to purchase a copy of Windows with it or do without. I, for one, have an old licensed copy of Win95 that would do just fine thank you very much! I see no reason to buy another copy everytime I buy a new machine - virtual or otherwise.
I will consider VMWare a product that is recomendable by me until such time as you can't buy it without purchasing another copy of Windows.
I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to purchase VMWare.
I'm of the opinion that Gravity and Magnetism are related.
Gravity, in my understanding, is the attraction of one mass for another.
Magnetism is the concentrated lines of electron force that either attracts or repels like forces based on orientation of charge.
Gravity and Magnetism have like qualities:
North and South poles or orientation of charges.
Lines of force that interact with other lines of force.
Conclusion:
Gravity and Magnetism are related.
I've heard more than one scientist say that the two are completely different things... I'm not so sure they are.
are the ones who rarely get hit by viruses. The saying, "Prevention is worth a pound of cure" has never been more true.
If you are a Windows user, having Anti-Virus Scanners and Shields are a must. As is, utilizing safe practices like not running any code that is attached to mail or other documents without being real sure of it's being safe. Running cute little programs distributed by email is a good way to be infected with viruses!
Many of the same common sense ideas about viruses in Windows also holds true for any system including Linux. If you get code or programs from untrusted sources, you run the risk of getting hacked. With Linux, though, the source is open and under the scrutiny of many eyes - this tends to eliminate such vulnerabilities.
Bottom line: Safe practices will prevent the lion's share of problems.
Patrick Volkerding is one of the most knowledgeable members of the community. I learned alot from Slakware and consider it one of the prime LINUX distributions.
I, however, am looking forward to LSB and hope that it is finished soon; I respect Mr. Volkerding's opinion on LSB's non-application to Slakware but also believe that LINUX needs LSB. It would be great if Mr. Volkerding would lend his guiding hand toward helping LSB - maybe it would be even better than it is now.
My Question:
Will you please assist LSB even if you have no desire to adhere to it?
Till Microsoft owns it, make mine Slakware.
stored in the form of sugars. H2O and CO2 are utilized to create the sugars - oxygen is released as a byproduct of this process. The plant still needs oxygen to metabolize the sugar, much as we do, so, under adverse conditions, it evidently splits water to get at the oxygen so it may utilize it's sugar and then release the excess hydrogen. This is my understanding of the process.
Wouldn't it be interesting if animals had more of the capabilities of plants at food production?
Jesus Christ said something to the effect of: Judge not lest ye be judged. In other words, it's those people's choice to be homosexuals or baby killers; it's not up to christians to fight them with violence or judge them. Christians should inform them and let them make their own decision.
what Christians do. Read up on it.
Linux is already a snappy server and it's becoming a wonderful desktop OS. I use it exclusively for Desktop and as a Server too.
As soon as Enhanced PnP and XFree86 4.0 are a reality, Linux will make new friends on the desktop. It's inevitable!
I think XFree86 4.0 will be the biggest leap for the desktop in quite some time. I'm not holding my breath but... I'm so excited I can hardly wait. (but I will).
I built myself an Athlon 500 machine with a GeForce (the highend version) Pro? I had consistent lockups in 3D Mode.
Ended up replacing it with a Voodoo3-3000 and had no more lockups. The Voodoo3-3000, while very nice, is no match for the video quality and speed of the GeForce card.
I'll probably go back to the GeForce card if these drivers turn out to be stable. The video quality is just... STUNNING!
Congrats to NVidia for getting on the ball and supporting their users!! Thank you.
Everything ok here in Texas so far. Power, water, TV, Phone, Internet etc...
Linux says:
Sat Jan 1 01:31:54 CST 2000
No problems there...
It stated that researchers are usually required to back up their research and request for grants with all kinds of proofs and peer reviews; then this guy comes along with wild unsubstatiated claims and ends up with all kinds of funding.
You can imagine what's going through Dr. Anderson's mind. Maybe: Start heating the tar and get the feathers.
after all that work to make sure you keep your eMail free from the spambots... you put it unmodified in your post anyway.
!PU EKAW
driving the requirement to UPGRADE. With the side benefit, to the originating company, of remaining incompatible with the competition.
It's as plain as the glasses on Bill Gates face.
I know... I know... but I couldn't resist!
Oh, and you may have crawled from primordial slime but I most certainly did not! I crawled from primordial soup. Mmmm... Primordial Soup(tm) - it's good for you.
The Good Ole Days weren't really that good. I mean... it was DARK and all in them ages - right?
>I am so sick of hearing about god, and people
>trying to say what god wants us to do and what
>he doesn't want us to do. Who says god didn't
>lay everything out perfectly so we would
>discover how to create our own little organisms
>at that exact moment?
Well, most people generally find out what God seems to want by reading the Bible. It also states in the Bible that God has set us back from where we'd advanced to more than once. READ.
>Who says god exists?
That is what each man and woman must find out for themselves. It's the whole point.
>On the subject of man destroying the
>environment... I'm all for keeping the
>environment healthy, but surely you can't
>equate creating a new organism in a
>laboratory as eclologically distressing.
>I could see creating a new organism with
>the purpose of altering something, and
>releasing it into the wild, but that's
>another story.
I'll give you an example: Africanized Bees. They weren't released... they escaped. If we can't control arthropods... what makes you think we can control bacteria?
>Mars? How would we ruin mars? It's a wasteland
>as far as I see, and if we don't find life
>anywhere in it then I say it's free reign.
I agree. And THAT is were I'd have them do thier genetic research OR maybe the Moon or a Space Station.
>Survival of the fittest. If there is some
>organism on mars that may one day evolve into
>something sentient and wonderful then great,
>let it try. But if it's wiped out by expanding
>humans then it probably wouldn't have become
>so wonderful. Evolution teaches us that
>smart/savvy/stronger animals live and
>proliferate, while stupid/slow/weak animals
>die off and fade into the background or
>become extinct.
This statement fits into the Theory of Evolution nicely. Does it also mean that we are stupid and deserving of extinction if we create a virus or bacterium that annihilates us? I think the answer is yes.
>Maybe if a substantial portion of earths
>humans move to another planet then earth's
>ecology can start working harder and get back
>into the point of healthy.
Who's to say it hasn't happened before?
I didn't mean to convey the idea that humanity hasn't aspired to Playing God; quite the contrary, it is our attempts at Playing God that brought about our repeated chastisements according to biblical history.
I know some may not adhere to the biblical teachings and I can deal with that but... those teachings and writings do have a VERY IMPRESSIVE RECORD of being correct. Look at the order of events in Genesis itself! While not a verbatim account of the beginning, it carries much fact that pure empirical science agrees with. I think the Bible is a most interesting and important work - a friend in paper.
I go about almost everything I do with a scientific point of view (which gets me into trouble sometimes) and gathering information from the Bible while looking at it from a scientific point of view yields much useful information - especially when taken as a whole and not out of context. It's absolutely uncanny!
So, if we're Playing God now... what may we expect to happen?
Fact: God is an Extraterrestrial.
The fact that the Greeks, in general, were a long lived group is widely accepted; the reason why they lived so long is also interesting. I have read more than one version of the widely-held theory that DIET and EXCERCISE played a vital part in the longevity of greeks. I believe their diet usually consisted of a kind of gruel, fish/seafood, wine and olives - very little harmful fat. Take a greek and feed him fatty food all his life and he'll have a more *normal* life expectancy. For a present day parallel to the greeks lifespan and reason why, just check the statistics on people from the Caucasus - they live a long time and eat lots of yoghurt. :)
To throw something in... the Spartans practiced a kind of infant culling in that babies that were weak, or judged sickly, were left exposed to the elements. Only the strongest children were given the opportunity to live. In other words, the spartans bred themselves for health, strength and virility for hundreds of years - voluntarily. They were famed for their physical prowess but laughed at for their ignorance of logic. The Spartans were defeated by the lowly and physically weaker Corinthians by use of a new deep phalanx tactic. Sparta's military power was broken forever.