VA has been a powerhouse in the Linux community for some time. I hope they do what it takes to shed liabilities in order to get back in the black. As much as I hate to see them crop off open projects and open-source programmers, they have to do it in order to make it through these sad financial times.
I remember a day when VA Linux just sold hardware solutions.... if going back to that will save them then I'm all for it.
As for SourceForge, methinks it's a great idea... I hope it continues but only time will tell.
Might is the word here. I tried for about 4 years, at one company, to prove that I had the mettle to handle any computing task.
What I ended up with:
I kept my Tech-Support position with it's pay and responsibilities AND was saddled with additional work such as programming, hardware and systems admin tasks.
You could say that in the end I did reap some rewards for my effort: I eventually got my programmer position but... think of all the wasted years when I was super sharp and doing Tech Support. What a waste.
I agree wholeheartedly with this one. You need experience on "insert big iron or high-end machine here" to get the job. You cant get experience on "insert big iron or high-end machine here" until you get a job.
It's an old story. Those select few who do have the experience are laughing all the way to the bank (God bless em!). And, they are laughing at the host of companys too shortsighted to hire newcomers to the field.
Many of those old well-trained experienced maxed individuals are beginning to reach retirement age.... what will businesses do then? What happens when he/she can no longer see? What happens when the guy dies of old age in the admin office?
Guess those short-sighted businesses are SOL then.
There are many qualified and competent people ready to go to work providing Linux solutions; as opportunities become available, there will be even more. Based on what I've seen, the average Linux user is better trained and more dedicated than many Windows uber users too.
That said, it seems as if your argument bears more weight on the manufacturer of said crate than the man in it.
So, what you're really saying is: A special purpose tool is better than a general purpose tool - for specific purposes. I cannot disagree. If you want High-End Multiprocessor Mega Server Computing then yes... a High-End Multiprocessor Mega Server OS is probably going to do the better job.
I find it, however, interesting that a general purpose implementation of UNIX such as Linux is even playing in the same ballpark. The stability, utility, affordability, ubiquity and avalabilty of Linux make for a strong argument for it's use in many situations.
And just what is wrong with Pascal? I happen to think it's a wonderful language - it can be depended on. I'd rather use Delphi/Pascal ANY DAY rather than program in any version of BASIC.
Heh yeah, I'll tell you what we need... Consent Decree Toilet Paper because that is all it's good for. As a previous poster said (not verbatim), "Bill Gates wiped his *^(*&%^*! on the last one."
>the defendant has been found guilty of criminal
>actions, and put on some kind of probation, but
>if he/she violates that probation, the probation
>will continue longer.
Hmm... I don't know about you but... where I come from - if you violate probation... they put yer ^&(^*! in jail.
So, if Microsoft violates probation then they should be stiffly fined and or have their requirements expanded in scope.
Personally, I don't care what the president does in his residence as long as he does his job. As for Bush, I have no confidence in the man and feel that he would sell us out in a minute.
Look at two facts:
Bush came into office and the first thing he did was cut taxes (this particular tax cut chiefly benefits those who make over 100K+ a year). Government makes money by taxing... the alternative is borrowing - i.e. to put us back in debt. Debt seems to be the Republican way of doing business.
Bush then, quickly, got rid of the massive available surplus by giving tax rebates to the people. Now the government is technically broke and must borrow money. All part of the grand plan.
Here is a scenario for you:
Say you are a rich man and Uncle Sam comes a knocking at your door. He wants money and you have a choice of payment - pay him taxes or buy his bonds. Which would you choose? Give him the money outright (taxes) or loan him money (debt/bonds). I'll bet you'd choose to loan the govt money.
Now, loaning the govt money is not BAD(tm) in it's own right but primarily financing govt with debt is. Debt should be an emergency measure to fill in the gaps caused by improper forecasting of govt money needs. Such debt should be retired in the short term rather than the long term.
btw... I'm from Texas and Bush isn't.
Oh, and lets not forget Reagan's, "I can't remember." lines. heh Let's not forget the massive borrowing that was required most years just to pay the interest on the nation debt accumulated during the Reagan and Bush years.
The user should not see errors unless they want to. I agree with sending errors to STDOUT. If the user wants to see the errors then they can either start the app in an XTERM so they can see the errors or switch virt terms over to VT1 and see the STDOUT output.
Also, I use error reporting to a logfile rather than alarming the user. Most applications should be able to survive the average error. Those applications should prompt the user for proper input - even to the point of placing the cursor in the proper field. Each field should be intelligent and be able to validate it's own input data.
Those error logs I spoke of should be used by the programmer to debug his/her application - don't alarm the user ok?
Gotta love Cable Modems and bzip2!
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Downloaded the linux-2.4.13.tar.bz2 file in less than 50 seconds @ around 300kb/sec. Wow!
Jeezus Christ! What is the world coming to? Are we to live in a Police State in the USA?
I would ask this question: Did you do any kind of STUDY, Mr Senator, to see what kind of effect your bill would have on the computing industry as well as the rest of the US technical infrastructure?
If what I've read is true, we are in for lot of debate.
Ok, I *may* have my facts a bit jumbled. After all, it's been about 15 years since I read the books. The first Star Trek book I read had to do with the Enterprize getting stuck in a gravity well around what appeared to be a dead star. I orbit, they had found a gigantic alien ship made of honeycombed alloy and they had personal force fields or shields. The officer of the conn was a creature that had many arms - Mbata or something. There was a different alien intelligence that had taken over the alien ship yada yada yada... a very nice piece of work the book was... I couldn't put it down.
Anyway, In these books, there was a race of beings that had immense technology but were largely pacifistic. I thought those were the Wyn. They had Warp drive, Phasers and Transporters and such... while the Klingons, who we were at war with, had none of these technologies. (We didn't have these tech either)
Anyway, the Klingons captured one of the Wyn's ships and took the tech. They Wyn then gave us the tech to keep power balanced in the war.
You are most likely right that the timelines and facts from the books, shows and toons are divergent. Too bad they couldn't try to resolve some of the differences with the books.
I saw the race that we were fighting in the new show as a more interesting foe than the Wyn. Maybe a beefed up version of them for us to get our technology from.
Heh, I see this as a reason for me to go to the garage and dig up those old Star Trek books again. Refresh m'self with the storyline.
Correct me if I'm wrong but... didn't Warp Drive come along as a result of contact with the Wyn from the Wyn Star Cluster? I read this in the old original Star Trek book series upon which alot of Star Trek the show was based. I believe it happened after the original NCC1701 was built in earth orbit and a few years before Captain Pike commanded the Enterprize.
Also, at this early date, the starships *SHOULD* have armor plating but no shields, just impulse and reaction engines, and pulse lasers.
I know that they had a wierd episode in ST-TNG where warp drive was supposedly created, we were recognised by the Vulcans and we narrowly escaped the BORG but... can't we keep a cohesive history and time line? I mean c'mon.
Oh well, I guess I can forgive them... they do have this fantastic looking Vulcan Blalock chick.
Codifex Maximus
If the BSD programmer did the work, give him/her the credit. Nuff Said.
By the way, I'll be ^%$#! glad when Linux/UNIXen become popular enough that the hardware manufacturers will provide us drivers. Drivers in the form of source code/reference drivers (without need for NDA) or precompiled modules ready to load.
Yeah, I remember the Olde Days too. It was 1981, the Apple ][ was hitting the scene with alot of the early games like Ultima, GORF, Star Trek (the char version), and a zillion Space Invader Clones. And then, Castle Wolfenstein, came along and we forgot every other game...
Pretty soon the Computer Lab was full of guys playing Wolfenstein. You could hear Schweinhunt Schweinhunt Schweinhunt and the pop pop pop sound of the SS guy chasing the player... yes... those were the Good Olde Days (tm).
God Bless Muse Software. Achtung! Kamerade! Gimmee yer Bullet Proof Vest and yer gun! heh heh
The whole idea behind the LSB is to provide for a predictable minumum functionality.
While it may be nice to have a whole bunch of bells and whistles like Java specifications and thouroghly debated package managers, it's more important to get a least common denominator first working draft on the table now.
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VA has been a powerhouse in the Linux community for some time. I hope they do what it takes to shed liabilities in order to get back in the black. As much as I hate to see them crop off open projects and open-source programmers, they have to do it in order to make it through these sad financial times.
I remember a day when VA Linux just sold hardware solutions.... if going back to that will save them then I'm all for it.
As for SourceForge, methinks it's a great idea... I hope it continues but only time will tell.
It's posts like Paul's that make reading Slashdot worthwhile.
Might is the word here. I tried for about 4 years, at one company, to prove that I had the mettle to handle any computing task.
What I ended up with:
I kept my Tech-Support position with it's pay and responsibilities AND was saddled with additional work such as programming, hardware and systems admin tasks.
You could say that in the end I did reap some rewards for my effort: I eventually got my programmer position but... think of all the wasted years when I was super sharp and doing Tech Support. What a waste.
I agree wholeheartedly with this one. You need experience on "insert big iron or high-end machine here" to get the job. You cant get experience on "insert big iron or high-end machine here" until you get a job.
It's an old story. Those select few who do have the experience are laughing all the way to the bank (God bless em!). And, they are laughing at the host of companys too shortsighted to hire newcomers to the field.
Many of those old well-trained experienced maxed individuals are beginning to reach retirement age.... what will businesses do then? What happens when he/she can no longer see? What happens when the guy dies of old age in the admin office?
Guess those short-sighted businesses are SOL then.
Hmm.. I don't know. Sounds to me like you want to remove the very mechanism that drives innovation?
Competition breeds better products and more goodies for the consumer.
There are many qualified and competent people ready to go to work providing Linux solutions; as opportunities become available, there will be even more. Based on what I've seen, the average Linux user is better trained and more dedicated than many Windows uber users too.
That said, it seems as if your argument bears more weight on the manufacturer of said crate than the man in it.
So, what you're really saying is: A special purpose tool is better than a general purpose tool - for specific purposes. I cannot disagree. If you want High-End Multiprocessor Mega Server Computing then yes... a High-End Multiprocessor Mega Server OS is probably going to do the better job.
I find it, however, interesting that a general purpose implementation of UNIX such as Linux is even playing in the same ballpark. The stability, utility, affordability, ubiquity and avalabilty of Linux make for a strong argument for it's use in many situations.
And just what is wrong with Pascal? I happen to think it's a wonderful language - it can be depended on. I'd rather use Delphi/Pascal ANY DAY rather than program in any version of BASIC.
Yeah, but then you'll be asked to document it - with the COBOL program... it's already documented. Heh.
Need I say more?
Heh yeah, I'll tell you what we need... Consent Decree Toilet Paper because that is all it's good for. As a previous poster said (not verbatim), "Bill Gates wiped his *^(*&%^*! on the last one."
>the defendant has been found guilty of criminal
>actions, and put on some kind of probation, but
>if he/she violates that probation, the probation
>will continue longer.
Hmm... I don't know about you but... where I come from - if you violate probation... they put yer ^&(^*! in jail.
So, if Microsoft violates probation then they should be stiffly fined and or have their requirements expanded in scope.
Personally, I don't care what the president does in his residence as long as he does his job. As for Bush, I have no confidence in the man and feel that he would sell us out in a minute.
Look at two facts:
Bush came into office and the first thing he did was cut taxes (this particular tax cut chiefly benefits those who make over 100K+ a year). Government makes money by taxing... the alternative is borrowing - i.e. to put us back in debt. Debt seems to be the Republican way of doing business.
Bush then, quickly, got rid of the massive available surplus by giving tax rebates to the people. Now the government is technically broke and must borrow money. All part of the grand plan.
Here is a scenario for you:
Say you are a rich man and Uncle Sam comes a knocking at your door. He wants money and you have a choice of payment - pay him taxes or buy his bonds. Which would you choose? Give him the money outright (taxes) or loan him money (debt/bonds). I'll bet you'd choose to loan the govt money.
Now, loaning the govt money is not BAD(tm) in it's own right but primarily financing govt with debt is. Debt should be an emergency measure to fill in the gaps caused by improper forecasting of govt money needs. Such debt should be retired in the short term rather than the long term.
btw... I'm from Texas and Bush isn't.
Oh, and lets not forget Reagan's, "I can't remember." lines. heh Let's not forget the massive borrowing that was required most years just to pay the interest on the nation debt accumulated during the Reagan and Bush years.
>>fecetious? :)
> Full of shit?
>You mean facetious. [dictionary.com]
Man, this is too funny... it hurts.
doh! heh make that STDERR heh :)) Must remember that Preview button.
The user should not see errors unless they want to. I agree with sending errors to STDOUT. If the user wants to see the errors then they can either start the app in an XTERM so they can see the errors or switch virt terms over to VT1 and see the STDOUT output.
Also, I use error reporting to a logfile rather than alarming the user. Most applications should be able to survive the average error. Those applications should prompt the user for proper input - even to the point of placing the cursor in the proper field. Each field should be intelligent and be able to validate it's own input data.
Those error logs I spoke of should be used by the programmer to debug his/her application - don't alarm the user ok?
Downloaded the linux-2.4.13.tar.bz2 file in less than 50 seconds @ around 300kb/sec. Wow!
Jeezus Christ! What is the world coming to? Are we to live in a Police State in the USA?
I would ask this question: Did you do any kind of STUDY, Mr Senator, to see what kind of effect your bill would have on the computing industry as well as the rest of the US technical infrastructure?
If what I've read is true, we are in for lot of debate.
Hmm... I don't know about you but... I've bought quite a bit of software for Linux and a gob of books.
Codifex
Ok, I *may* have my facts a bit jumbled. After all, it's been about 15 years since I read the books. The first Star Trek book I read had to do with the Enterprize getting stuck in a gravity well around what appeared to be a dead star. I orbit, they had found a gigantic alien ship made of honeycombed alloy and they had personal force fields or shields. The officer of the conn was a creature that had many arms - Mbata or something. There was a different alien intelligence that had taken over the alien ship yada yada yada... a very nice piece of work the book was... I couldn't put it down.
Anyway, In these books, there was a race of beings that had immense technology but were largely pacifistic. I thought those were the Wyn. They had Warp drive, Phasers and Transporters and such... while the Klingons, who we were at war with, had none of these technologies. (We didn't have these tech either)
Anyway, the Klingons captured one of the Wyn's ships and took the tech. They Wyn then gave us the tech to keep power balanced in the war.
You are most likely right that the timelines and facts from the books, shows and toons are divergent. Too bad they couldn't try to resolve some of the differences with the books.
I saw the race that we were fighting in the new show as a more interesting foe than the Wyn. Maybe a beefed up version of them for us to get our technology from.
Heh, I see this as a reason for me to go to the garage and dig up those old Star Trek books again. Refresh m'self with the storyline.
Correct me if I'm wrong but... didn't Warp Drive come along as a result of contact with the Wyn from the Wyn Star Cluster? I read this in the old original Star Trek book series upon which alot of Star Trek the show was based. I believe it happened after the original NCC1701 was built in earth orbit and a few years before Captain Pike commanded the Enterprize.
Also, at this early date, the starships *SHOULD* have armor plating but no shields, just impulse and reaction engines, and pulse lasers.
I know that they had a wierd episode in ST-TNG where warp drive was supposedly created, we were recognised by the Vulcans and we narrowly escaped the BORG but... can't we keep a cohesive history and time line? I mean c'mon.
Oh well, I guess I can forgive them... they do have this fantastic looking Vulcan Blalock chick.
Codifex Maximus
If the BSD programmer did the work, give him/her the credit. Nuff Said.
By the way, I'll be ^%$#! glad when Linux/UNIXen become popular enough that the hardware manufacturers will provide us drivers. Drivers in the form of source code/reference drivers (without need for NDA) or precompiled modules ready to load.
Codifex Maximus
this exploit really only hits Windows boxes running IIS that haven't been properly patched?
Hmm... sounds like an administrator error.
*SHRUG*
Yeah, I remember the Olde Days too. It was 1981, the Apple ][ was hitting the scene with alot of the early games like Ultima, GORF, Star Trek (the char version), and a zillion Space Invader Clones. And then, Castle Wolfenstein, came along and we forgot every other game...
Pretty soon the Computer Lab was full of guys playing Wolfenstein. You could hear Schweinhunt Schweinhunt Schweinhunt and the pop pop pop sound of the SS guy chasing the player... yes... those were the Good Olde Days (tm).
God Bless Muse Software. Achtung! Kamerade! Gimmee yer Bullet Proof Vest and yer gun! heh heh
The whole idea behind the LSB is to provide for a predictable minumum functionality.
:)
While it may be nice to have a whole bunch of bells and whistles like Java specifications and thouroghly debated package managers, it's more important to get a least common denominator first working draft on the table now.
Let's have some orderly anarchy here ok?