> Windows does everything people want it to and will run any software you buy, Runs just about every virus too.
> so even if you showed everyone on the planet Linux, a good deal would continue to use Windows. I dunno. I've had quite a few successful opportunities to introduce people to Linux. And, I've had 8 out of 10 go for it.
I see smiles on their faces when they come back to have me build another computer to install Linux on. Whereas, the Windows people keep coming back, with frowns on their faces, to have the viruses and malware removed OR to have windows restored and the system patched yet again. (Many of these folks end up Linux users.)
Correct me if I'm wrong but, I believe that MS SQLServer was made from code and experience gained from Microsoft's collaboration with Sybase a few years back.
Much to Sybase's loss and Microsoft's gain. (Such is the fate of those who get in bed with Microsoft.)
This is good news for Linux and Sybase. It gives MSSQLServer shops a migration path to Linux and back to Sybase.
>> If the lusers get pwned, then that's nothing >> new - Linux or Windows.
> And this is exactly why Linux is not grabbing more > desktop space from Windows than it currently is - > apathy towards the fate of the casual user from > most of its core user base.
No. Users are choosing what they know AND ease of use over security atm.
Do not confuse APATHY with realization; you must realise that clueless users are the ones that are not caring. They are not caring that their OS of choice has many many security holes.
Now the phraseology could have been less confrontational (lusers basically means clueless user).
Bottom line, a clueless user is gonna get owned no matter WHAT operating system he/she is using. He'll just have to work a little harder at it in UNIX/LINUX.
I just got finished reading "Scatterbrain" - it gives you an insight on Larry Niven's way of thinking. The man has an incredible attention to detail; he fleshes out his worlds so well that disbelief is forgotten. Character development is superb and you feel real empathy for them.
Books like Crashlander, Ringworld, Pak Protector they all scream to be made into movies. I can't wait!:)
I'd like to see "the colonies" developed and see the things you people wouldn't believe. It's a shame PKD is dead though; maybe they could get someone to flesh out the universe a bit.
I must third this. I've been using Mozilla browser in one form or another since the internet first became available to the public. I used early Mosaic, Netscape 2.0 with the throbbing N etc... Internet Explorer always seemed second class to me.
The Netscape 4.0 Suite got clunky after a while. But when Netscape 6.x came out and stabilized, I really liked it. Things got better and better with Netscape 7.1. It seemed to me that Netscape and Mozilla were coming into their own then WHAMMO, AOL axes Netscape support for Mozilla? Way to run the race only to trip and fall at the finish line! Glad to see Netscape 7.2 - hope to see future releases too!
Yet, Netscape polished the Mozilla code and made an end user palatable version of a great open source browser. Long Live Mozilla!
> Did you consider switching to Slackware from Red > Hat? Or at least Gentoo with it's Portage?
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> Well what I did on my first install was print out > the notes and make a 'cheat sheet' of what I did.
Yeah, on my first Gentoo install, I did this too. Keeping notes on what I did helped me out alot.
Installing Gentoo wasn't easy at first. But, after getting the filesystem and basic stuff installed, a kernel built and grub configured to boot right, I was off and running er emerging.:)
Early on, I got SVGALIB going as well as links browser. Also, got BitchX fired up.
If you have problems... just ask the helpful people at: irc.freenode.net #gentoo they are a great bunch of folks.
Haven't had any problems since. I'm happy as a clam and not at all regretful of my decision to use Gentoo.
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Debian has a pentium? :)
Anyway, Microsoft can't charge per core and still remain even as competitive as they claim to be with Linux and BSD.
> Re-elect George W Bush... because nothing is more
> entertaining than an angry liberal.
Nothing is more pitiful than a fool who will vote for the guy who hands him his pink slip.
I hate to hear of a young mind dying. What would it have accomplished?
Rest well and peacefully.
> Anyone thinking that the Republicans or Democrats
> are any different are really blind.
By your logic: if the Reps and the Dems are the same then... BuBuBush ain't workin out... let's get Kerry in there.
My logic: Bush double taxes us with his insane borrowing. Let's cut back on the borrowing. Tax is NOT the problem - borrowing is.
As for Microsoft getting off easy. Well, history speaks for itself.
P.S. I'm from Texas. Bush ain't.
> I still shudder at the thought of JCL.
:)
I dunno, it was pretty easy for me.
> Windows does everything people want it to and will run any software you buy,
Runs just about every virus too.
> so even if you showed everyone on the planet Linux, a good deal would continue to use Windows.
I dunno. I've had quite a few successful opportunities to introduce people to Linux. And, I've had 8 out of 10 go for it.
I see smiles on their faces when they come back to have me build another computer to install Linux on. Whereas, the Windows people keep coming back, with frowns on their faces, to have the viruses and malware removed OR to have windows restored and the system patched yet again. (Many of these folks end up Linux users.)
Rock on!
> Two questions:
> 1) Why should the federal government be buying
> software from a convicted monopolist?
Ask them... I don't know.
> 2) Why should the amount paid for any product take
> precedence over the government's responsibility to
> enforce the laws of the country?
Same.
It's not a logical world we live in.
head like the ones on Easter Island.
No, I can't right now... I'm too busy building a mashed potatoe flattopped mountain in my living room.
> I can tell you that American companies do the
> exact same thing (attempt to handle all customer
> interaction with scripted idiots).
True, the only real difference is... they can understand our scripted idiots.
> Why has taco not touched slashcode to make real
:)
> improvements for almost 5 years?
Isn't Taco married now and has a life?
Funny. :)
I'd like this thrown in: LSB Compliant. After all, LSB has pretty much the same goals.
Correct me if I'm wrong but, I believe that MS SQLServer was made from code and experience gained from Microsoft's collaboration with Sybase a few years back.
Much to Sybase's loss and Microsoft's gain. (Such is the fate of those who get in bed with Microsoft.)
This is good news for Linux and Sybase. It gives MSSQLServer shops a migration path to Linux and back to Sybase.
I have to agree. If it ain't classified then it should be available. If it concerns National Security then it damn well better be classified!
Profit should have nothing to do with government purchased information being or not being classified; security should be the reason.
>> If the lusers get pwned, then that's nothing
>> new - Linux or Windows.
> And this is exactly why Linux is not grabbing more
> desktop space from Windows than it currently is -
> apathy towards the fate of the casual user from
> most of its core user base.
No. Users are choosing what they know AND ease of use over security atm.
Do not confuse APATHY with realization; you must realise that clueless users are the ones that are not caring. They are not caring that their OS of choice has many many security holes.
Now the phraseology could have been less confrontational (lusers basically means clueless user).
Bottom line, a clueless user is gonna get owned no matter WHAT operating system he/she is using. He'll just have to work a little harder at it in UNIX/LINUX.
It's the BISHOP! Call the POLICE! Shouldn't we call the church? No call the police... Call THE CHURCH POLICE!
*SOUND OF SIREN*
What is it my son?
I just got finished reading "Scatterbrain" - it gives you an insight on Larry Niven's way of thinking. The man has an incredible attention to detail; he fleshes out his worlds so well that disbelief is forgotten. Character development is superb and you feel real empathy for them.
:)
Books like Crashlander, Ringworld, Pak Protector they all scream to be made into movies. I can't wait!
> Blade Runner is awsome.
I'd like to see "the colonies" developed and see the things you people wouldn't believe. It's a shame PKD is dead though; maybe they could get someone to flesh out the universe a bit.
> I second this.
I must third this. I've been using Mozilla browser in one form or another since the internet first became available to the public. I used early Mosaic, Netscape 2.0 with the throbbing N etc... Internet Explorer always seemed second class to me.
The Netscape 4.0 Suite got clunky after a while. But when Netscape 6.x came out and stabilized, I really liked it. Things got better and better with Netscape 7.1. It seemed to me that Netscape and Mozilla were coming into their own then WHAMMO, AOL axes Netscape support for Mozilla? Way to run the race only to trip and fall at the finish line! Glad to see Netscape 7.2 - hope to see future releases too!
Yet, Netscape polished the Mozilla code and made an end user palatable version of a great open source browser. Long Live Mozilla!
> This contest is so much more interesting than the
> American 'wedge' contests
It's interesting yes... and even comical but... those american wedges would kick the crap outta these little humanoid bots.
Whatever happened to MEEPT?
> However, my interpreteation is that the thread
:)
> should stand.
Nazi!
> If you haven't crashed a linux box, you obviously
> aren't pushing it hard enough.
I crashed a Linux box a couple times... I just can't remember back that far.
> Unix is not a panacea. Shit happens.
Unix/Linux/BSD are the closest things to a panacea as far as open operating systems go. IMNSHO
> I haven't tried Gentoo so I can't comment on it,
:)
> but I suggested Slackware since it's supposed to
> be the most UNIX like Linux.
Yep. I cut my teeth on Slack.
> Did you consider switching to Slackware from Red
> Hat?
Or at least Gentoo with it's Portage?
> Well what I did on my first install was print out
:)
> the notes and make a 'cheat sheet' of what I did.
Yeah, on my first Gentoo install, I did this too. Keeping notes on what I did helped me out alot.
Installing Gentoo wasn't easy at first. But, after getting the filesystem and basic stuff installed, a kernel built and grub configured to boot right, I was off and running er emerging.
Early on, I got SVGALIB going as well as links browser. Also, got BitchX fired up.
If you have problems... just ask the helpful people at: irc.freenode.net #gentoo they are a great bunch of folks.
Haven't had any problems since. I'm happy as a clam and not at all regretful of my decision to use Gentoo.