> Is it worth completely reinstalling your OS every > three months? The whole reason of ditching windows > was to get away from reinstalling, DLL hell, and > system instabilities. So we've made things better > by replacing these 'problems' with reinstalling, > RPM hell, and system instabilities.
Begin-Shameless Gentoo Plug- Well, I just login as root, type: emerge sync; emerge world. Pretty much does what I need. End-Shameless Gentoo Plug-
Now, I will say this: I don't mind the BSD cathedral standing in the Linux Bazaar. Ports/Portage... it's all good.
> "distilling it," which would be rediculous to > suggest for field use
Depends on which field yer talking about. If yer in the jungle or a temperate zone, use filtration; if yer in an arid or desert zone, then using the sun to heat dirty water or urine and recapture the evaporated pure water is (in my opinion) better.
Look at it. You got these big trucks moving bottled water all over the place right? Just make a big truck that takes waste water (not solids) and uses the heat of the exaust and the sun to evaporate the water - condense it and serve.
Viruses are GIGANTIC in comparison to water or urea molecules.
You could let bacteria turn the urea into less poisonous nitrates. You could use a solar still. You could use additives to chemically neutralize or bind the urea into larger molecules and then osmose it.
> If Redhat and or mandrake conformed they would be > commiting business suicide.
That's ok. Redhat and Mandrake can go the way of the dinosaur (Proprietary UNIX) for all I care.:P
As for Gentoo - you're preaching to the choir - I'm a Gentoo fan! Let me add my vote to yours.
Now, for something new: I think the days of the distro are numbered. I would prefer if we just had all distros conform to the LSB and start producing APPLICATION software instead of another way to install LINUX.
Distros had their heyday and their purpose. Those days are over for the most part. Time to get the applications rolling! Developers! Easy to use IDE's, Applications! Games! Interoperability!~
Jesus H. Crist people! Stop thinking of Linux as this distro or that! IT'S LINUX! What is good for one distro is good for another. Novell should not be a distro producer or an operating system producer but an APPLICATIONS PRODUCER!
When you say, "RedHat", I think: Dumped it for Gentoo.
When you say, "Novell", I think: They bought SuSE didn't they?
Let's look back shall we? It's 1999. Novell is pushing NDS and is fighting for it's life against NT's bid for the enterprise networking crown. Novell has one very stable networking platform and a world class directory service against NT's dubious stability and only just emerging ActiveDirectory. I was really turned on to Novell 3.12 and it's ease of use and stability; Then I got my first Linux disk from a trade show. Well, that changed everything. I saw Linux as everything Novell was but with icing on the cake. Now, it wasn't difficult to see that Novell was going to lose. I mean, Microsoft had their huge installed base of Windows users to draw revenue from. Novell was a business and had to make money - that is where Microsoft wins - they have more money. Microsoft spent alot of money, pushed harder and won the networking war based on their desktop dominance. Enter Linux. Free, doesn't have to make money, stable, networking saavy, open source, standards based. Every one of Microsoft's strengths avails it little against this new foe; it's like stepping on ants. Each one is easy to kill but there are millions of em.
Now using this analogy, we have a turtle (Novell) with a bunch of ants behind it; they are taking on the 800lb Gorilla (Microsoft). It's gonna be an interesting fight.
My opinion: If everyone gets behind the LSB and makes a concerted push THEN I see some ground being taken. YOMV
Why wasn't "Pushing forward is a temptation but also bad." modded up as interesting? I mean, it was alot more interesting than the other 40 posts I read before it. Actually made some sense!
Also, for a previous poster, do you have a link to this "cookie jar" allegation - maybe some real proof? I must have missed it somewhere along the way.
> $300k per employee is a high stat, but the typical > office worker costs a company $100k-$150k a year > when things beyond salary such as the cost of > supplying that employee with the office space and > supplies needed to do their job, insurance costs, > administrative expenses, and other such costs are > factored in.
Heck, gimme $150K a year and I'll work at home and buy my own insurance!
I dunno, building a computer is really kind of easy.
Steps: Decide on a processor family: AMD or Intel. Decide on a motherboard: Compatible with processor, has the desired motherboard connections - usb, ieee1394, sound, gigalan, Dual Channel DDR, memory capacity, SATA, SPDIF etc... Decide on amount of memory: Dual DDR 512 - 1GB min. Decide on the video card: Nvidia or ATI - how much you got to spend? Buy your drives: No less than 200GB HD, DVDRW and CDRom drives. Decide on Operating System: Linux of course - Gentoo.:)
One of the alleged mistakes was: No one would use a metal grinder without protective glasses.
If there was a titanium tentacle grasping MY neck you better believe I'd use a grinder on it!
Another was: Everytime Doc Ock moves in a fight, his tentacles make booming sounds rapidly. But, when he's climbing, there is a 3 or 4 second delay between booms.
Well, he is pulling himself up between tentacle booms when he's climbing isn't he?
-Doug said- However, several times I've seen a whole group of Word power users (not clueless lusers) need to given up on a document and start over from scratch -- usually just on little things like the company business plan or 12 month road map (urk). The only workaround each time was to copy/paste the original document text into a new Word file, because Word was hopelessly confused by whatever little magic cookies it had left in the original document.
-Codifex said- These little magic cookies you're talking about amount to a document constructed using Structured Storeage. Structured Storeage allows Microsoft to make a file that contains directories and files - kind of like a tar file but able to be modified on the fly. Problem is, you get fragmentation and corruption in the original file and need to compress and/or rebuild the file.
-Doug said- So yeah, Word -- nice when it works, I guess, but it can be quite frustrating other times.
-Codifex said- This can be said of Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Access, Outlook (all products of Microsoft) which all use Structured Storeage as well as a pretty much standard VBA interpretor. The macro virus code is also pretty much standardized and portable to any Office program.
> The downtown 'Hot Zone' will improve city services > by facilitating intelligent policing, quicker fire > and rescue response, and will support e-government >initiatives and a more productive mobile workforce."
Not to mention denial of services when it gets hacked. Hopefully, there will be redundancy in system services and tip top security.
Also, I'm not sure I want my connectivity through a municipal carrier. What is the legal landscape like? How much regulation will there be?
I'm all for getting connected but... I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.
> But besides that, it's EXACTLY like saying Elves & > Orcs do not exist only because scientists have not > yet found them.
I can see you are an intelligent one. Bravo!
I believe there have been more than one instance of scientists selecting something in the Bible to disprove; then they go and look where the purported place is supposed to be and they find it. I'll leave the research into my assertion as an exercise for you.
> They are from a book.
There are very few (if any) instances of fiction being recorded prior to the greeks.
> The only reason YOU think there is any > difference is because you think your book was > written by a mystical beast, whereas mine was > written by J.R.R. Tolkien, someone who can > actually be proven to exist, unlike your "ghost > author."
How can you prove J.R.R.Tolkien existed? Did you by chance read it in a book?
> Whereas other parts of the bible describe things > that do not exist at all.
These "things that do not exist at all" are usually things that scientists have not found yet.
> So just because it describes something that you > consider to represent a dinosaur, it does not mean > it does. There are still no statements in the > Bible that clearly suggest dinosaurs existing at > all.
It doesn't mean it doesn't either. After all, what IS a dinosaur? A terrible lizard? We all know that dinosaurs are not neccessarily lizards. They are reptiles of course but specific types of reptiles and or early birds. The term dinosaur is a sensationalistic word created to name a large grouping of fossils of creatures that appeard to resemble modern-day lizards and reptiles. Why would there be such a reference in the Bible?
If you saw a T. Rex today, how would you describe it? How would you name it?
First words that come to my mind are big-toothy monster! YMMV
If you were to attempt to describe how radio, light bulbs, cars, planes, rockets and computers work to a person who lived in the 1500's, you would probably have to use alot of dumbed down terms.
Consequently, God trying to explain creation to a man who lived thousands of years ago - well, God would have to communicate in a language that the man might understand.
Son: Hey dad. Why is the sky blue?
Dad: Well son, the photons of light from a thermonuclear reaction in a big ball of plasma millions of miles away cause the electrons of the atoms of the air to jump to higher energy levels - when these electron's orbits decay, they fall back to their former orbit releasing photons of light in certain wavelengths according to atom/molecule type. THAT is why the sky is blue son.
> nobody knows why alligators and crocs survived the > event that killed off the dinosaurs.
Hibernation is the answer in my opinion. The earth probably got very cold during the time immediatly following the apparent global blackout caused by the asteroid hit. Creatures that hibernate were able to survive as well as birds (therapod dinosaurs with feathers and warm blood). I would have to figure that the birds scavenged and migrated for much of the time during which the cold-blooded creatures perished.
As for magnetic field reversal, have any studies been conducted regarding magnetic field reversal on weather patterns and plate tectonics?
Is it time to build the Unobtainium core machine yet?
I'm going to come right out and say it... I'm not the best graphics programmer out there... not even mediocre.
Now, with that out of the way... I'd like to ask a few questions: Whatever happened to the Kyro II? I heard it was real good with ZBuffer stuff... complex landscapes and cityscapes. I also heard that the technology lives on in some form or another - tile based rendering? You can draw complex landscapes with today's GPU's without passing in triangles/fans/strips/lists? What would be a top reference regarding hi-performance lighting/shadowing/rendering of complex scenes? (Recommended reading and/or research)
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> Is it worth completely reinstalling your OS every
> three months? The whole reason of ditching windows
> was to get away from reinstalling, DLL hell, and
> system instabilities. So we've made things better
> by replacing these 'problems' with reinstalling,
> RPM hell, and system instabilities.
Begin-Shameless Gentoo Plug-
Well, I just login as root, type: emerge sync; emerge world. Pretty much does what I need.
End-Shameless Gentoo Plug-
Now, I will say this: I don't mind the BSD cathedral standing in the Linux Bazaar. Ports/Portage... it's all good.
Man if you want to eat urine flavored food or drink the stuff go right ahead... I wont stand in yer way.
I'm not against the idea of this osmosis material being used to purify water - heck I think it's a great idea; it's the urine part I find unpalatable.
> "distilling it," which would be rediculous to
> suggest for field use
Depends on which field yer talking about. If yer in the jungle or a temperate zone, use filtration; if yer in an arid or desert zone, then using the sun to heat dirty water or urine and recapture the evaporated pure water is (in my opinion) better.
Look at it. You got these big trucks moving bottled water all over the place right? Just make a big truck that takes waste water (not solids) and uses the heat of the exaust and the sun to evaporate the water - condense it and serve.
I'll bet it could be done.
Viruses are GIGANTIC in comparison to water or urea molecules.
You could let bacteria turn the urea into less poisonous nitrates. You could use a solar still. You could use additives to chemically neutralize or bind the urea into larger molecules and then osmose it.
So many things you could do.
Time to start making Dune suits. :)
> Granted, you recycle and thus conserve water by
:P
> drinking your own piss
I wonder how many Slashdotters are retching about now... and how many Soldiers will be retching and thereby loosing more water.
Bad idea using urine to hydrate food. Just plain bad. There is always a better way.
What about making solar stills to process the urine first? That way pure water can be gotten to hydrate the food.
> If Redhat and or mandrake conformed they would be
:P
> commiting business suicide.
That's ok. Redhat and Mandrake can go the way of the dinosaur (Proprietary UNIX) for all I care.
As for Gentoo - you're preaching to the choir - I'm a Gentoo fan! Let me add my vote to yours.
Now, for something new:
I think the days of the distro are numbered. I would prefer if we just had all distros conform to the LSB and start producing APPLICATION software instead of another way to install LINUX.
Distros had their heyday and their purpose. Those days are over for the most part. Time to get the applications rolling! Developers! Easy to use IDE's, Applications! Games! Interoperability!~
Jesus H. Crist people! Stop thinking of Linux as this distro or that! IT'S LINUX! What is good for one distro is good for another. Novell should not be a distro producer or an operating system producer but an APPLICATIONS PRODUCER!
:)
Now, get behind the LSB and get to programming.
When you say, "RedHat", I think: Dumped it for Gentoo.
When you say, "Novell", I think: They bought SuSE didn't they?
Let's look back shall we? It's 1999. Novell is pushing NDS and is fighting for it's life against NT's bid for the enterprise networking crown. Novell has one very stable networking platform and a world class directory service against NT's dubious stability and only just emerging ActiveDirectory.
I was really turned on to Novell 3.12 and it's ease of use and stability; Then I got my first Linux disk from a trade show. Well, that changed everything. I saw Linux as everything Novell was but with icing on the cake.
Now, it wasn't difficult to see that Novell was going to lose. I mean, Microsoft had their huge installed base of Windows users to draw revenue from. Novell was a business and had to make money - that is where Microsoft wins - they have more money. Microsoft spent alot of money, pushed harder and won the networking war based on their desktop dominance.
Enter Linux. Free, doesn't have to make money, stable, networking saavy, open source, standards based. Every one of Microsoft's strengths avails it little against this new foe; it's like stepping on ants. Each one is easy to kill but there are millions of em.
Now using this analogy, we have a turtle (Novell) with a bunch of ants behind it; they are taking on the 800lb Gorilla (Microsoft). It's gonna be an interesting fight.
My opinion: If everyone gets behind the LSB and makes a concerted push THEN I see some ground being taken.
YOMV
Yep! I'll throw a vote in for webmin also. Very nice tool.
10. pico
9. nano
8. joe
7. kcontrol
6. ksysv
5. kpackage
4. knoppix-autoconfig
3. YaST
2. linuxconf
1. CowboyNeal
Why wasn't "Pushing forward is a temptation but also bad." modded up as interesting? I mean, it was alot more interesting than the other 40 posts I read before it. Actually made some sense!
Also, for a previous poster, do you have a link to this "cookie jar" allegation - maybe some real proof? I must have missed it somewhere along the way.
> $300k per employee is a high stat, but the typical
> office worker costs a company $100k-$150k a year
> when things beyond salary such as the cost of
> supplying that employee with the office space and
> supplies needed to do their job, insurance costs,
> administrative expenses, and other such costs are
> factored in.
Heck, gimme $150K a year and I'll work at home and buy my own insurance!
I dunno, building a computer is really kind of easy.
:)
Steps:
Decide on a processor family: AMD or Intel.
Decide on a motherboard: Compatible with processor, has the desired motherboard connections - usb, ieee1394, sound, gigalan, Dual Channel DDR, memory capacity, SATA, SPDIF etc...
Decide on amount of memory: Dual DDR 512 - 1GB min.
Decide on the video card: Nvidia or ATI - how much you got to spend?
Buy your drives: No less than 200GB HD, DVDRW and CDRom drives.
Decide on Operating System: Linux of course - Gentoo.
And, last but not least...
RTFM!
One of the alleged mistakes was: No one would use a metal grinder without protective glasses.
If there was a titanium tentacle grasping MY neck you better believe I'd use a grinder on it!
Another was: Everytime Doc Ock moves in a fight, his tentacles make booming sounds rapidly. But, when he's climbing, there is a 3 or 4 second delay between booms.
Well, he is pulling himself up between tentacle booms when he's climbing isn't he?
-Doug said-
However, several times I've seen a whole group of Word power users (not clueless lusers) need to given up on a document and start over from scratch -- usually just on little things like the company business plan or 12 month road map (urk). The only workaround each time was to copy/paste the original document text into a new Word file, because Word was hopelessly confused by whatever little magic cookies it had left in the original document.
-Codifex said-
These little magic cookies you're talking about amount to a document constructed using Structured Storeage. Structured Storeage allows Microsoft to make a file that contains directories and files - kind of like a tar file but able to be modified on the fly. Problem is, you get fragmentation and corruption in the original file and need to compress and/or rebuild the file.
-Doug said-
So yeah, Word -- nice when it works, I guess, but it can be quite frustrating other times.
-Codifex said-
This can be said of Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Access, Outlook (all products of Microsoft) which all use Structured Storeage as well as a pretty much standard VBA interpretor. The macro virus code is also pretty much standardized and portable to any Office program.
Would putting a TODO list in your code and then GREPing for them violate Microsoft's patent?
> The downtown 'Hot Zone' will improve city services
> by facilitating intelligent policing, quicker fire
> and rescue response, and will support e-government
>initiatives and a more productive mobile workforce."
Not to mention denial of services when it gets hacked. Hopefully, there will be redundancy in system services and tip top security.
Also, I'm not sure I want my connectivity through a municipal carrier. What is the legal landscape like? How much regulation will there be?
I'm all for getting connected but... I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.
> But besides that, it's EXACTLY like saying Elves &
> Orcs do not exist only because scientists have not
> yet found them.
I can see you are an intelligent one. Bravo!
I believe there have been more than one instance of scientists selecting something in the Bible to disprove; then they go and look where the purported place is supposed to be and they find it. I'll leave the research into my assertion as an exercise for you.
> They are from a book.
There are very few (if any) instances of fiction being recorded prior to the greeks.
> The only reason YOU think there is any
> difference is because you think your book was
> written by a mystical beast, whereas mine was
> written by J.R.R. Tolkien, someone who can
> actually be proven to exist, unlike your "ghost
> author."
How can you prove J.R.R.Tolkien existed? Did you by chance read it in a book?
> Whereas other parts of the bible describe things
> that do not exist at all.
These "things that do not exist at all" are usually things that scientists have not found yet.
> So just because it describes something that you
> consider to represent a dinosaur, it does not mean
> it does. There are still no statements in the
> Bible that clearly suggest dinosaurs existing at
> all.
It doesn't mean it doesn't either. After all, what IS a dinosaur? A terrible lizard? We all know that dinosaurs are not neccessarily lizards. They are reptiles of course but specific types of reptiles and or early birds. The term dinosaur is a sensationalistic word created to name a large grouping of fossils of creatures that appeard to resemble modern-day lizards and reptiles. Why would there be such a reference in the Bible?
If you saw a T. Rex today, how would you describe it? How would you name it?
First words that come to my mind are big-toothy monster! YMMV
If you were to attempt to describe how radio, light bulbs, cars, planes, rockets and computers work to a person who lived in the 1500's, you would probably have to use alot of dumbed down terms.
Consequently, God trying to explain creation to a man who lived thousands of years ago - well, God would have to communicate in a language that the man might understand.
Son: Hey dad. Why is the sky blue?
Dad: Well son, the photons of light from a thermonuclear reaction in a big ball of plasma millions of miles away cause the electrons of the atoms of the air to jump to higher energy levels - when these electron's orbits decay, they fall back to their former orbit releasing photons of light in certain wavelengths according to atom/molecule type. THAT is why the sky is blue son.
You see?
> nobody knows why alligators and crocs survived the
> event that killed off the dinosaurs.
Hibernation is the answer in my opinion. The earth probably got very cold during the time immediatly following the apparent global blackout caused by the asteroid hit. Creatures that hibernate were able to survive as well as birds (therapod dinosaurs with feathers and warm blood). I would have to figure that the birds scavenged and migrated for much of the time during which the cold-blooded creatures perished.
As for magnetic field reversal, have any studies been conducted regarding magnetic field reversal on weather patterns and plate tectonics?
Is it time to build the Unobtainium core machine yet?
I'm going to come right out and say it... I'm not the best graphics programmer out there... not even mediocre.
Now, with that out of the way... I'd like to ask a few questions:
Whatever happened to the Kyro II? I heard it was real good with ZBuffer stuff... complex landscapes and cityscapes. I also heard that the technology lives on in some form or another - tile based rendering?
You can draw complex landscapes with today's GPU's without passing in triangles/fans/strips/lists?
What would be a top reference regarding hi-performance lighting/shadowing/rendering of complex scenes? (Recommended reading and/or research)
> Windows - Where do you want to go today? ;)
> Linux - Where do you want to go tomorrow?
> BSD - Are you guys coming or what?
Hmm... I'd change it a bit.
Windows - Guess where MS wants you to go today.
Linux - You want to go where?
BSD - Been there done that.
P.S.
SCO - We ain't goin.
Heh... RedHat 7.1 on my old box... heavily modified. Gentoo Linux on the new box... very easy to update.