"No, sir. We see no possible way that your house could be on fire at this time. I'm quite sure that if you wait a few more moments, you will see that there is no problem at all."
I'M STANDING IN THE FRONT YARD WATCHING MY BURNING ROOF FALL IN YOU IDIOTS!
Transportation is distribution, not manufacturing. If they want to include that, then it takes that much raw material to "manufacture and distribute" a single monitor. If they include warehousing the equipment, then its "manufacture, distribute, and store".
I don't buy THAT for a second either. Much as I like the idea of reusing old equipment and being nice to the environment, etc. etc... this stinks of number manipulation through and through.
Yeah! Its absolutely impossible that some doctors are incompetent quacks who deserve to loose their license to practice medicine.
I read this far before I stopped and determined that you're an idiot, since I already wrote this:
If you didn't have as many assholes out there pulling bullshit cases and getting exhorbitant "awards", the people with legitimate claims wouldn't be more than an afterthought to professionals who know what they're doing.
Perhaps someone could get the ridiculous malpractice claims under control and spend a little more time critically evaluating the situation when one comes up?
Things like this exist because jobless wonders with no skills and no future see an easy out and sue the doctor for some assinine bullshit, then ignorant juries award this sinister behavior when crooked lawyers trump things up around the "poor, suffering victim". If you didn't have as many assholes out there pulling bullshit cases and getting exhorbitant "awards", the people with legitimate claims wouldn't be more than an afterthought to professionals who know what they're doing.
It's just another example of how the "legal" profession makes its money by ruining everyone else. Legalized thugs.
You ought to wait and see if an official corporate position, reprimand, etc. comes out on the matter. Just because this EB Games is run by a blithering idiot doesn't mean they all are (though, given the types of people they hire to manage these things....).
Hey, idiot. Welcome to capitalism. Part of capitalism is the shift of usable goods from someone who no longer needs/wants them, to somebody who wants them. The customer gets two things: money, and convenience. The business gets a good profit margin. If they (the customer) want to, they can sacrifice convenience and try to pawn off the games on another consumer directly. Just like used cars. You get more money if you do your own work, or you can take it a little easier and get less money.
Did you know that EB makes literally next to no profit on new games and systems? Hmm? So stop bitching and buy the goddamn things new if you think it's such a bad deal, and resell the fucking things yourself when you're done with them instead of having EB do the work for you.
I guess if I were as dumb as you, I'd post AC too so nobody knew who I was.
Chill, man. You'll pop an artery. It was just a joke. Note the self-effacing humor in the "shootin' stick maw" part of the comment.
Besides, damn Brits can't cook either. You don't see me pointing out that all their food tastes like they took the cow patties out of the field instead of the cow, do you? Now THAT would be low.
2 lines at $600 for 33 months + 33 months of $4.00/GB hosting transferring 1000GB each month. Do the math.
Yea, that adds up a lot better, thanks for showing us all how little we know about running "a site like this". Bearing in mind that I have something that might called "serious reservations" about 1000GB per month of transfer (that must be on damn popular sherriff) and $4 per GB is outrageous.
What about his personal time invested?
Guess he should've thought about that before he OFFERED TO DO IT FOR FREE, huh?
You're not real familiar with North American "news" sources, are you? If they're not sensationalizing completely baseless conclusions drawn from inconclusive scientific reports ("the gay gene has been discovered!") they're just making shit it up and hoping nobody notices (NYTimes, anybody?).
I guess it was inevitable. Once slashdot got big enough and had a clearly defined set of agendas within the readership, sensationalizing headlines and distorting the actual news reports to play on the mores and taboos of the group became a good way to get eyes on stories and, in turn, a good way to get more hits for squeezing advertiser wallets.
What do you mean other way around? If the gasket goes the oil leaks back into the radiator and makes the coolant boil faster which causes it to boil out. I've never seen coolant leak back into the oil pan, just oil into the radiator. Are you saying it can go the other way too (I'm asking, not being smart - I don't know)?
And, depending on the motor, it may be as simple as "popping the head's and replacing the gasket" every few thousand miles. Mopars come to mind.... eh, well... caveat emptor...
I spilled industrial epoxy on the floor in the garage once behind a saw bench and dropped a hammer in it by mistake.
We sold that house 6 years ago. As far as I know, the hammer is still where I left it that night and, unless they plan on pulling up the concete to get rid of it, it won't be moving anytime soon.
Hmmm.. just downloaded and tested Thunderbird... nope. Gives you a dialog just like downloading an executable off the web would. Don't know about Mozilla, and don't care.
Funny thing. Combine the thing about effective root access and the arbitrary executable association and execution (oh yea - can we blame Microsoft for doing such a goddamn, stupid, motherfucking, assbackwards, moronic thing like using a 3 character extension to determine the executable nature of a file? Huh? Can we blame them for that completely idiotic bullshit? Hmmm?) and oooooooh, looooky heeeeerrreee..... a bullshit system ripe for abuse in the hands of morons.
No no. Set up a strawman all you like, Microsoft is still to blame. Maybe Mozilla Mail is too, but I'm bitching about Microsoft since pretty much everything they ever made was a shitstorm of security problems. Want to bitch about Mozilla Mail if you think it's bad? Go nuts. Otherwise, do try to stay with me here. Slow me down if I'm going too fast for you.
Except, this is more like a 90 year old man with a walker and oxygen claiming he has a shotgun in his pocket and demanding that you owe him money.... little guy or not.. I'm not afraid of a half-dead 90 year old man with no pockets.
Yea, blaming Microsoft for CLSIDs is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for giving root-like access by default is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for creating an honor-system security setup on its filesystem is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for VBA is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for allowing persistent broadband connections to be easily started without having the built-in firewall turned on by default is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for letting Messenger, rpc, etc. run by default on net-connected home systems is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for constantly dragging its feet on critical patch fixes is unfair.
Blaming Microsoft for continuing to allow users to execute arbitrary code from within an e-mail program despite years of exploit in this inherent vulnerability is unfair.
Yea.. right. Here's an idea.. stop making excuses for the constant crap that comes out of Redmond as a result of a marketing department driving a software company and voice your concerns about these things. It can only benefit everyone to call bullshit on Microsoft's constant security waffling and make them fix it. Customers, home users, even those of us who don't even use Windows can only benefit from Microsoft improving security in its products. Press releases don't fix flaws. Patches don't fix flaws when your entire model is a giant flaw. Until Microsoft sits down and rebuilds the system from the ground up, I call bullshit on any post that says "you can't blame Microsoft for....". I'll be right A LOT more than I'll be wrong with that policy.
Incidentally, it's called a firewall. If you don't want users making net connections, you use one. I don't know of any modern OS that doesn't have one available in some capacity. Smarter OSes come with them built in.
Why don't you just stop illegal trading of copyrighted materials? That'll get the RIAA to stop targeting P2P real quick
If they did that, the RIAA would stop targeting p2p because all that would be left to trade would be goat porn, pilfered webcam vids of questionably-aged girls dancing around their bedrooms, and pictures of people's stupid cats and kids.
I wouldn't want to live in THAT world.... no... hold me... I'm getting cold.... soooo cooooold
Yes, I'm offtopic. I'm also drunk. But, look... this is a suggestion for improvement on/., so here goes:
This in itself, is no big deal, but to actually read the letter from Infinium Labs lawyers will make you wonder if an educated person actually penned the documents.
Should be re-written as:
This, in itself, is no big deal. However, actually reading the letter from Infinium Labs' aywers will make you wonder.....
Mod up or down as you will. Yes, I really am wasted on Balmoral whiskey and Arrogant Bastard ale. Moderate as necessary.
Hey Fry - what's up with MS-SQL? I've actually found it to be one of the few MS products that's actually worth using if you can get someone else to pay for it (if it were up to me, I'd replace it with Linux/pgsql). It sounds like it's either seriously misconfigured like the one guy said or, perhaps, you have some bad hardware hanging around? You ought to send the techs seeking i/o and buffer errors in the event viewer.
In my experience, that behavior is not normal. Just my.02
Yea, boo hoo. I'd hate to get "ripped a new asshole". Dude, seriously. Look at what I posted and tell me with a straight face that you honestly believe people don't already try it on a regular basis.
Now's the part in our show where I rip you a new one. Or, at least point out that, in fact, in the context of the original post I responded to, I'm perfectly on base whether you agree with the way I pursued the response or not. And, I quote:
The government should be using the RICO Act to nail all the offending parties.
Nope, I'm sorry, you lose, would you like to play again? THIS piece of the Hobbs act is the closest I (yes, I'm willing to admit I'm wrong or didn't dig deep enough - if you'd like to say so and push the RICO bullshit a little more... tell me WHY I'm wrong for once instead of just shooting off your mouth about what the government or some lawyer should do without backing up your rant) could find to support a court case against SCO on the basis of this alleged RICO act violation:
The term "extortion" means the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.
Now, I'm no lawyer, but I'd have to say it's quite a stretch to say that anyone who would respond to SCO's rants is anything more than a moron if they're actually afraid of any kind of retaliation. THe important part of this is that SCO is not specifically threatening anybody and, in fact, the only reason there's any fanfare over what they're doing isn't becuase of anything more than the idiotic media circus that has erupted around them. Notice how IBM is just playing it cool and taking it all in stride? Gee, do you think maybe the crack legal team at Big Blue knows what it's doing? Better than we do?
Go ahead and call me a troll for calling bullshit on all the people who think they somehow know what SCO can be charged with (better than AGs and lawyers and corporate legal hounds at that), but at least I did a little digging the first time someone suggested the idea. So excuse me for being a little annoyed by the hundred of little karma-whoring trolls who keep pushing it even though it doesn't appear to be a valid measure of recourse.
Go ahead, spit acronyms left and right all you want, but there's nobody that can sue them under RICO no matter how much you want to believe it as a result of the fact that you have NO clue what you're talking about. You don't understand the purpose of RICO or how it's used anymore, so stop claiming it can be used against SCO or the RIAA or anybody else for that matter.
SCO did nothing illegal. The RIAA did nothing illegal. You can't usually successfully sue somebody for being immoral. You're never going to get an extortion charge for offering a settlement to stupid people. There's no "racketeering" going on.
Next time you try to claim that "such and such" should sue/arrest/whatever somebody else, at least take 5 seconds to Google the damn law you're going to claim can be used. I can imagine that with assinine comments like this one being modded up, this place must be like a comedy club for lawyers. OFFERING BAD CONTRACTS TO PEOPLE (without misrepesenting them) WHO ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO SIGN THEM IS IMMORAL - NOT ILLEGAL. OFFERING SETTLEMENTS TO PEOPLE FACING LEGITIMATE COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT SUITS *MIGHT* BE IMMORAL DEPENDING ON YOUR POSITION IN THE MATTER - IT IS NOT ILLEGAL.
Please, Slashdot. Do try to beat that into your thick skulls. Go ahead and label me troll now. I know you'd rather stroke your overinflated egos and pretend you know what you're talking about rather than admitting that, in fact, the law is not going to step into either one of these issues unless it's in the context of evaluating how the legal system is being abused by the respective parties. That would be nice, but don't hold your breath.
Yes, yes. Yap yap. Ogg ogg. Zippity doo da and the yellow-motherfucking-brick road.
In case you haven't noticed, mp3 has made a successful push into the consumer market through concerted marketing efforts. Now, all the geeks can scream OGG! until they're blue in the face - hell, it's the first thing I thought of when I read this (followed closely by "why do I give a shit, I have plenty of mp3 encoding tools that will work just fine") - but nobody is listening.
Not enough people in the mainstream consumer market are going to adopt Ogg because nobody will support it and they don't know to ask for it. Unfortunately, unless you're preaching to them, you're preaching to the choir.
As usual, the ignorant consuming masses will continue to get raped on new technologies because they don't know any better and it's in various industries' best interests to keep them ignorant.
Yippee freakin' ki-yay for capitalism at its shit-eating modern-American finest.
The government really ought to just lock up the whole population for whatever reason happens to be most convenient, liquidate all their assets, and then turn them (the assets, not the populace) over to the various industry leaders. It's really the only thing that'll make them truly happy.
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Imagine if the fire department acted like that.
"No, sir. We see no possible way that your house could be on fire at this time. I'm quite sure that if you wait a few more moments, you will see that there is no problem at all."
I'M STANDING IN THE FRONT YARD WATCHING MY BURNING ROOF FALL IN YOU IDIOTS!
"Sir, are you on drugs?"
Transportation is distribution, not manufacturing. If they want to include that, then it takes that much raw material to "manufacture and distribute" a single monitor. If they include warehousing the equipment, then its "manufacture, distribute, and store".
I don't buy THAT for a second either. Much as I like the idea of reusing old equipment and being nice to the environment, etc. etc... this stinks of number manipulation through and through.
Yeah! Its absolutely impossible that some doctors are incompetent quacks who deserve to loose their license to practice medicine.
I read this far before I stopped and determined that you're an idiot, since I already wrote this:
If you didn't have as many assholes out there pulling bullshit cases and getting exhorbitant "awards", the people with legitimate claims wouldn't be more than an afterthought to professionals who know what they're doing.
Stop being stupid.
Perhaps someone could get the ridiculous malpractice claims under control and spend a little more time critically evaluating the situation when one comes up?
Things like this exist because jobless wonders with no skills and no future see an easy out and sue the doctor for some assinine bullshit, then ignorant juries award this sinister behavior when crooked lawyers trump things up around the "poor, suffering victim". If you didn't have as many assholes out there pulling bullshit cases and getting exhorbitant "awards", the people with legitimate claims wouldn't be more than an afterthought to professionals who know what they're doing.
It's just another example of how the "legal" profession makes its money by ruining everyone else. Legalized thugs.
You ought to wait and see if an official corporate position, reprimand, etc. comes out on the matter. Just because this EB Games is run by a blithering idiot doesn't mean they all are (though, given the types of people they hire to manage these things....).
Hey, idiot. Welcome to capitalism. Part of capitalism is the shift of usable goods from someone who no longer needs/wants them, to somebody who wants them. The customer gets two things: money, and convenience. The business gets a good profit margin. If they (the customer) want to, they can sacrifice convenience and try to pawn off the games on another consumer directly. Just like used cars. You get more money if you do your own work, or you can take it a little easier and get less money.
Did you know that EB makes literally next to no profit on new games and systems? Hmm? So stop bitching and buy the goddamn things new if you think it's such a bad deal, and resell the fucking things yourself when you're done with them instead of having EB do the work for you.
I guess if I were as dumb as you, I'd post AC too so nobody knew who I was.
Chill, man. You'll pop an artery. It was just a joke. Note the self-effacing humor in the "shootin' stick maw" part of the comment.
Besides, damn Brits can't cook either. You don't see me pointing out that all their food tastes like they took the cow patties out of the field instead of the cow, do you? Now THAT would be low.
-- Cletus.
2 lines at $600 for 33 months + 33 months of $4.00/GB hosting transferring 1000GB each month. Do the math.
Yea, that adds up a lot better, thanks for showing us all how little we know about running "a site like this". Bearing in mind that I have something that might called "serious reservations" about 1000GB per month of transfer (that must be on damn popular sherriff) and $4 per GB is outrageous.
What about his personal time invested?
Guess he should've thought about that before he OFFERED TO DO IT FOR FREE, huh?
You're not real familiar with North American "news" sources, are you? If they're not sensationalizing completely baseless conclusions drawn from inconclusive scientific reports ("the gay gene has been discovered!") they're just making shit it up and hoping nobody notices (NYTimes, anybody?).
I guess it was inevitable. Once slashdot got big enough and had a clearly defined set of agendas within the readership, sensationalizing headlines and distorting the actual news reports to play on the mores and taboos of the group became a good way to get eyes on stories and, in turn, a good way to get more hits for squeezing advertiser wallets.
Don't feel bad. I declined an invite...
Oh, wait... sorry man...
What do you mean other way around? If the gasket goes the oil leaks back into the radiator and makes the coolant boil faster which causes it to boil out. I've never seen coolant leak back into the oil pan, just oil into the radiator. Are you saying it can go the other way too (I'm asking, not being smart - I don't know)?
And, depending on the motor, it may be as simple as "popping the head's and replacing the gasket" every few thousand miles. Mopars come to mind.... eh, well... caveat emptor...
I spilled industrial epoxy on the floor in the garage once behind a saw bench and dropped a hammer in it by mistake.
We sold that house 6 years ago. As far as I know, the hammer is still where I left it that night and, unless they plan on pulling up the concete to get rid of it, it won't be moving anytime soon.
Hmmm.. just downloaded and tested Thunderbird... nope. Gives you a dialog just like downloading an executable off the web would. Don't know about Mozilla, and don't care.
Funny thing. Combine the thing about effective root access and the arbitrary executable association and execution (oh yea - can we blame Microsoft for doing such a goddamn, stupid, motherfucking, assbackwards, moronic thing like using a 3 character extension to determine the executable nature of a file? Huh? Can we blame them for that completely idiotic bullshit? Hmmm?) and oooooooh, looooky heeeeerrreee..... a bullshit system ripe for abuse in the hands of morons.
No no. Set up a strawman all you like, Microsoft is still to blame. Maybe Mozilla Mail is too, but I'm bitching about Microsoft since pretty much everything they ever made was a shitstorm of security problems. Want to bitch about Mozilla Mail if you think it's bad? Go nuts. Otherwise, do try to stay with me here. Slow me down if I'm going too fast for you.
Except, this is more like a 90 year old man with a walker and oxygen claiming he has a shotgun in his pocket and demanding that you owe him money.... little guy or not.. I'm not afraid of a half-dead 90 year old man with no pockets.
Yea, blaming Microsoft for CLSIDs is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for giving root-like access by default is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for creating an honor-system security setup on its filesystem is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for VBA is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for allowing persistent broadband connections to be easily started without having the built-in firewall turned on by default is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for letting Messenger, rpc, etc. run by default on net-connected home systems is unfair. Blaming Microsoft for constantly dragging its feet on critical patch fixes is unfair.
Blaming Microsoft for continuing to allow users to execute arbitrary code from within an e-mail program despite years of exploit in this inherent vulnerability is unfair.
Yea.. right. Here's an idea.. stop making excuses for the constant crap that comes out of Redmond as a result of a marketing department driving a software company and voice your concerns about these things. It can only benefit everyone to call bullshit on Microsoft's constant security waffling and make them fix it. Customers, home users, even those of us who don't even use Windows can only benefit from Microsoft improving security in its products. Press releases don't fix flaws. Patches don't fix flaws when your entire model is a giant flaw. Until Microsoft sits down and rebuilds the system from the ground up, I call bullshit on any post that says "you can't blame Microsoft for....". I'll be right A LOT more than I'll be wrong with that policy.
Incidentally, it's called a firewall. If you don't want users making net connections, you use one. I don't know of any modern OS that doesn't have one available in some capacity. Smarter OSes come with them built in.
What the hell are you, some kind of Canadian? Petrol? Petrol Entry Point? BONNET!?!
Get me mah shootin' stick maw.....
It's GAS which goes in the GAS TANK which sure as hell isn't under the HOOD of the car!
Next thing you know, you'll be telling me you use a "Gay-raj" instead of a "car hole"?
Why don't you just stop illegal trading of copyrighted materials? That'll get the RIAA to stop targeting P2P real quick
If they did that, the RIAA would stop targeting p2p because all that would be left to trade would be goat porn, pilfered webcam vids of questionably-aged girls dancing around their bedrooms, and pictures of people's stupid cats and kids.
I wouldn't want to live in THAT world.... no... hold me... I'm getting cold.... soooo cooooold
The amusing part is that I pasted that statement with "aywers" directly from the article and STILL managed to misspell it... WTF?
I'm not THAT drunk.... am I?
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Yes, I'm offtopic. I'm also drunk. But, look... this is a suggestion for improvement on /., so here goes:
This in itself, is no big deal, but to actually read the letter from Infinium Labs lawyers will make you wonder if an educated person actually penned the documents.
Should be re-written as:
This, in itself, is no big deal. However, actually reading the letter from Infinium Labs' aywers will make you wonder.....
Mod up or down as you will. Yes, I really am wasted on Balmoral whiskey and Arrogant Bastard ale. Moderate as necessary.
Hey Fry - what's up with MS-SQL? I've actually found it to be one of the few MS products that's actually worth using if you can get someone else to pay for it (if it were up to me, I'd replace it with Linux/pgsql). It sounds like it's either seriously misconfigured like the one guy said or, perhaps, you have some bad hardware hanging around? You ought to send the techs seeking i/o and buffer errors in the event viewer.
In my experience, that behavior is not normal. Just my .02
I'm betting people weren't too enthusiastic about copying your answers back in basic earth science, were they?
Yea, boo hoo. I'd hate to get "ripped a new asshole". Dude, seriously. Look at what I posted and tell me with a straight face that you honestly believe people don't already try it on a regular basis.
Now's the part in our show where I rip you a new one. Or, at least point out that, in fact, in the context of the original post I responded to, I'm perfectly on base whether you agree with the way I pursued the response or not. And, I quote:
The government should be using the RICO Act to nail all the offending parties.
Nope, I'm sorry, you lose, would you like to play again? THIS piece of the Hobbs act is the closest I (yes, I'm willing to admit I'm wrong or didn't dig deep enough - if you'd like to say so and push the RICO bullshit a little more... tell me WHY I'm wrong for once instead of just shooting off your mouth about what the government or some lawyer should do without backing up your rant) could find to support a court case against SCO on the basis of this alleged RICO act violation:
The term "extortion" means the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.
Now, I'm no lawyer, but I'd have to say it's quite a stretch to say that anyone who would respond to SCO's rants is anything more than a moron if they're actually afraid of any kind of retaliation. THe important part of this is that SCO is not specifically threatening anybody and, in fact, the only reason there's any fanfare over what they're doing isn't becuase of anything more than the idiotic media circus that has erupted around them. Notice how IBM is just playing it cool and taking it all in stride? Gee, do you think maybe the crack legal team at Big Blue knows what it's doing? Better than we do?
Go ahead and call me a troll for calling bullshit on all the people who think they somehow know what SCO can be charged with (better than AGs and lawyers and corporate legal hounds at that), but at least I did a little digging the first time someone suggested the idea. So excuse me for being a little annoyed by the hundred of little karma-whoring trolls who keep pushing it even though it doesn't appear to be a valid measure of recourse.
Reminds me of the Dilbert joke where Dilbert is testing Ratbert's psychic ability with a coin toss and Ratbert succesfully calls "edge".
Sue them for WHAT?
Go ahead, spit acronyms left and right all you want, but there's nobody that can sue them under RICO no matter how much you want to believe it as a result of the fact that you have NO clue what you're talking about. You don't understand the purpose of RICO or how it's used anymore, so stop claiming it can be used against SCO or the RIAA or anybody else for that matter.
SCO did nothing illegal. The RIAA did nothing illegal. You can't usually successfully sue somebody for being immoral. You're never going to get an extortion charge for offering a settlement to stupid people. There's no "racketeering" going on.
Next time you try to claim that "such and such" should sue/arrest/whatever somebody else, at least take 5 seconds to Google the damn law you're going to claim can be used. I can imagine that with assinine comments like this one being modded up, this place must be like a comedy club for lawyers. OFFERING BAD CONTRACTS TO PEOPLE (without misrepesenting them) WHO ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO SIGN THEM IS IMMORAL - NOT ILLEGAL. OFFERING SETTLEMENTS TO PEOPLE FACING LEGITIMATE COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT SUITS *MIGHT* BE IMMORAL DEPENDING ON YOUR POSITION IN THE MATTER - IT IS NOT ILLEGAL.
Please, Slashdot. Do try to beat that into your thick skulls. Go ahead and label me troll now. I know you'd rather stroke your overinflated egos and pretend you know what you're talking about rather than admitting that, in fact, the law is not going to step into either one of these issues unless it's in the context of evaluating how the legal system is being abused by the respective parties. That would be nice, but don't hold your breath.
Yes, yes. Yap yap. Ogg ogg. Zippity doo da and the yellow-motherfucking-brick road.
In case you haven't noticed, mp3 has made a successful push into the consumer market through concerted marketing efforts. Now, all the geeks can scream OGG! until they're blue in the face - hell, it's the first thing I thought of when I read this (followed closely by "why do I give a shit, I have plenty of mp3 encoding tools that will work just fine") - but nobody is listening.
Not enough people in the mainstream consumer market are going to adopt Ogg because nobody will support it and they don't know to ask for it. Unfortunately, unless you're preaching to them, you're preaching to the choir.
As usual, the ignorant consuming masses will continue to get raped on new technologies because they don't know any better and it's in various industries' best interests to keep them ignorant.
Yippee freakin' ki-yay for capitalism at its shit-eating modern-American finest.
The government really ought to just lock up the whole population for whatever reason happens to be most convenient, liquidate all their assets, and then turn them (the assets, not the populace) over to the various industry leaders. It's really the only thing that'll make them truly happy.