It doesn't matter what they "want." Either they will provide usable hooks and extensibility to configure it back to sane behavior, or they will write off all users who have even the slightest idea what they are doing. My sense is that the hooks are there, and we will continue to see better and better "extensions" that hide more and more of the CRAP default behavior of Gnome3. It's regrettable that it is such a long process, though.
Yes, Gnome shell "works" in a literal sense, but it falls on its face and abjectly flunks all conceivable tests of being even 1/10 as usable as Gnome2. That's busted-ass by my definition.
I'd go way beyond that statement. I'd say it takes a flat BUSTED ASS release by the horns and goes a long way toward fixing it. Not for a bunch of old farts, but for everyone. And it's not about fear; it's about a refusal to take three steps back to no purpose.
The big promise of Linux Mint lies in the upcoming release 12. They are trying fix what the Gnome developers fucked up so royally and no one else has been able to do: fix Gnome3. They have a set of extensions that, at least judging from a static desktop screenshot, look like they will actually make Gnome3 usable like Gnome2. The release candidate due tomorrow should tell the story for these MSGE (Mint Gnome Shell Extensions).
All right, but why do they even have offices in Germany? Or any other country foreign to their home country? What does it gain them? It's obvious how it exposes them. Are they stupid?
Yeah, because it's REALLY hard to type "yum install kde-desktop" (package spelling might be a bit off on this release, but it's as simple as that) and get a coffee.
Maybe. But funny thing - I did just that in the past without any problems.
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Uh, yeah, I tried it in other Fedora releases, and didn't happen to run into those problems. I could log into Xfce, Gnome, KDE, and LXDE in turn using a login selector without any problems.
It's undeniably getting there. It will take time, but it's getting there. Take a gander at what Linux Mint did with Gnome3 using extensions. Sure looks like it's gonna work as good as Gome2 to me. Never thought I would be saying this as early as this. I didn't have high expectations at all.
Cool. Not particularly impressive though. My car repeatably travels 600 miles between fillups in mixed driving, using no more than 14 gallons. The farthest I have ever traveled without refueling was 782 miles. It doesn't have the cost and complication of a hybrid drivetrain either. And yes, it's a fourdoor hatchback with more interior room than the Civic.
Yes, but at the same time nitrates are essential fertilizing agents as well as allegedly harmful pollutants, just as CO2 is essential to the ecosystem.
Interesting. For what it's worth, it is alleged that CO2 in the soil is what is harming the trees, not CO2 in the air.
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I believe weapons development of this type was always done by contractors. NASA never built rockets, the Navy never built ships and the Army/Air Force never built planes.
The Army and Navy did build significant numbers of airplanes in earlier days. For example the Naval Aircraft Factory in Philadelphia built at least 15 models of planes and designed many of these. They also fabricated the girders for the rigid airship Shenandoah, which was assembled at the Lakehurst Naval Air Station.
The Charlestown Navy Yard/Boston Naval Shipyard/Boston Navy Yard built 36 destroyers and 31 destroyer escorts from 1934 to 1955.
Mare Island Naval Shipyard, 25 miles northeast of San Francisco, built at least 89 seagoing vessels, including two cruisers.
Brooklyn Navy Yard/New York Naval Shipyard employed 70,000 workers during WWII and built scores of ships from 1817 to 1963, including 11 battleships and 8 aircraft carriers.
Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, San Francisco Naval Shipyard, Long Beach Naval Shipyard, Norfolk Naval Shipyard, Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, and others built countless ships.
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Yeah, because 24 of my 1200 vertical pixels is such a critical amount to lose. Not everyone uses shit hardware.
It doesn't matter what they "want." Either they will provide usable hooks and extensibility to configure it back to sane behavior, or they will write off all users who have even the slightest idea what they are doing. My sense is that the hooks are there, and we will continue to see better and better "extensions" that hide more and more of the CRAP default behavior of Gnome3. It's regrettable that it is such a long process, though.
But it could be said to be even worse.
Yes, Gnome shell "works" in a literal sense, but it falls on its face and abjectly flunks all conceivable tests of being even 1/10 as usable as Gnome2. That's busted-ass by my definition.
I'd go way beyond that statement. I'd say it takes a flat BUSTED ASS release by the horns and goes a long way toward fixing it. Not for a bunch of old farts, but for everyone. And it's not about fear; it's about a refusal to take three steps back to no purpose.
The reference in TFS actually shows Mint is THE most popular linux distro of ALL distros at the moment. Look at the last column (1 month).
The big promise of Linux Mint lies in the upcoming release 12. They are trying fix what the Gnome developers fucked up so royally and no one else has been able to do: fix Gnome3. They have a set of extensions that, at least judging from a static desktop screenshot, look like they will actually make Gnome3 usable like Gnome2. The release candidate due tomorrow should tell the story for these MSGE (Mint Gnome Shell Extensions).
In your scenario you haven't defeated the protection offered by the fingerprint reader, you've lost the utility of it.
Using a fingerprint reader for authentication is exactly the opposite principle compared to using fingerprints to identify criminals.
All right, but why do they even have offices in Germany? Or any other country foreign to their home country? What does it gain them? It's obvious how it exposes them. Are they stupid?
Cigar. You get it. The incomparable ALH engine. They've never matched it since 2003.
Yeah, because it's REALLY hard to type "yum install kde-desktop" (package spelling might be a bit off on this release, but it's as simple as that) and get a coffee.
Maybe. But funny thing - I did just that in the past without any problems.
Uh, yeah, I tried it in other Fedora releases, and didn't happen to run into those problems. I could log into Xfce, Gnome, KDE, and LXDE in turn using a login selector without any problems.
It's undeniably getting there. It will take time, but it's getting there. Take a gander at what Linux Mint did with Gnome3 using extensions. Sure looks like it's gonna work as good as Gome2 to me. Never thought I would be saying this as early as this. I didn't have high expectations at all.
Top gear and all the beer guzzling dimwits who watch it can stuff it.
Cool. Not particularly impressive though. My car repeatably travels 600 miles between fillups in mixed driving, using no more than 14 gallons. The farthest I have ever traveled without refueling was 782 miles. It doesn't have the cost and complication of a hybrid drivetrain either. And yes, it's a fourdoor hatchback with more interior room than the Civic.
Ever heard of Gentoo [gentoo.org]? It's quite a bit easier to use than your BSD ports system.
That's bull. Ports are turnkey, dead simple to use.
WTF. Cathode ray tube controller? What an antiquated concept.
Yes, but at the same time nitrates are essential fertilizing agents as well as allegedly harmful pollutants, just as CO2 is essential to the ecosystem.
Interesting. For what it's worth, it is alleged that CO2 in the soil is what is harming the trees, not CO2 in the air.
I believe weapons development of this type was always done by contractors. NASA never built rockets, the Navy never built ships and the Army/Air Force never built planes.
The Army and Navy did build significant numbers of airplanes in earlier days. For example the Naval Aircraft Factory in Philadelphia built at least 15 models of planes and designed many of these. They also fabricated the girders for the rigid airship Shenandoah, which was assembled at the Lakehurst Naval Air Station.
The Charlestown Navy Yard/Boston Naval Shipyard/Boston Navy Yard built 36 destroyers and 31 destroyer escorts from 1934 to 1955.
Mare Island Naval Shipyard, 25 miles northeast of San Francisco, built at least 89 seagoing vessels, including two cruisers.
Brooklyn Navy Yard/New York Naval Shipyard employed 70,000 workers during WWII and built scores of ships from 1817 to 1963, including 11 battleships and 8 aircraft carriers.
Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, San Francisco Naval Shipyard, Long Beach Naval Shipyard, Norfolk Naval Shipyard, Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, and others built countless ships.
Nor is carbon dioxide itself a pollutant. Carbon dioxide is food for plants.
I didn't even think it was a nice try, just a supercilious know-it-all.
So fucking what? What harm does that do? It's not like the code path is ever going to get exercised except in the cases where you need it.
Why would anyone use DropBox when there is SpiderOak? Hmmm?