I could not agree more. Kids can reboot, patch, upgrade and do all kinds of fantastic things on ftp servers running in their wardrobes. In a worst case scenario they might get flames for interrupting a pr0n video download, but in a more critical application a reboot or downtime can cost a whole lot of money and bad rep.
Not transfer of ownership, but of rights.
This makes me wonder... why doesn't SCO take down the code from their own web pages? Perhaps the only employees left: Darl, a few accountants and a bunch of ex ambulance-chasing lawyers do not know how to do it, or even be aware of the presence of the COPYING files.
I was really grumpy this morning, and a bit sick of the town where I live in. I thought I'd look into working elsewhere for a while. Perhaps in Europe outside of Sweden, where I live now, or perhaps in the USA.
I got to work, and as every hard working employee I begin the day by reading Slashdot. I read this article about this silly little case-modding material using some "proprietary" technology that is not even encoded, and thus easy to reverse-engineer. I realsied that the DMCA would probably apply and the project would essentially be lawyer-bait if any part of the project was ran in the USA. Suddenly I am overcome with a feeling that I am pretty happy right where I am - A land where blind laws like the DMCA, terrorist act etc would never happen. We have a social democrat government that imitates the Bush government, but the ideas get somewhat diluted and toned down in the democratic process), so we might get a kinda-DMCA, a kind of terrorist act, but nothing at all like the USA. I am happy with the freedom of religion, as well as freedom FROM religion.
I hope some positive court outcomes and cases thrown out from court will make the adverse effects of the laws and acts more realistic. Not because I want more ways to download w4r3z or pr0n, but because I want US engineers and hackers to get the freedom to research and develop without getting sued and jailed as terrorists or criminals for "crimes" that would not affect anyone to any greater extent. A sense of fear in the engineering community can have really bad long term effects.
Back to the article... if anything, I would think hasbro would benefit from a reverse-engineering of their CDs, so case modders will buy their VideoNOW device, because I certainly would not, if I was a kid.
In Sweden I'd say ICQ (tech, normal and old time casual users) and MSN (new comp. users) have pretty much all users. The only people I know who have AIM or Yahoo support are the ones using Trillian etc, but very few have accounts for AIM or Yahoo, except in order to keep in touch with stubborn American friends who won't move to a more popular platform.
I am not aware of anyone who uses AIM, that appears to be a very American thing to do. My impression is that it was what people used before MSN started to be pre-installed in the OSes.
I have used ICQ since its "first wave" around 96 and 97, when my friends all started using it. They have since kept using ICQ, until it became bloated, after which Trillian and Jabber clients took over.
Most Swedish (and european) web communities have places to enter the icq #, and sometimes the msn address. Yahoo and AIM are known only vaguely by the webmasters, and never supported.
The question is, if the creator of humans used 99.4% of the code lifted straight from the apes... is it a large enough difference so it would not be considered violation of Intellectual Property rights?
Does SCO own the rights, and is it just a plan to lure IBM into buying humanity for a huge profit for the current SCO owners?
Or is this a Microsoft plot to buy the rights to the humans, copyright the genome and send pirate hunters to track license violators.
- Will they insert a product activation code into all new humans created, where the child stops functioning if not registered. - Will they include new bugs and get the new humans bloated (wait...) - Will we be equipped with a Start button? (: - Will the newborns cry "bling BLING bling BLINGGG" instead of "WAAAAH!" with their first breath? - Will the new children make secret phonecalls to Microsoft telling on their parents? - How will copy protection work? Chastity belts?
And will the open source movement provide an alternative with fresh code not depending on any components of the human genome?
You seem to be pretty ignorant, since you think all European countries are the same, and that socialism is something very foreign compared to what the USA is.
Socialism in europe (which one could be said is possible a small part of the govenrnemnts' ideologies) basically means a democracy with a large public sector, owning infrastructure assets. Ring a bell? You do have roads and schools (makes me wonder) in the USA? The US democracy can be discussed, though...
Besides, European taxes range from less than in USA to more than USA (and used for other puropses than upkeeping a huge army), so please do not generalise all countries in Europe. I keep seeing this all the time, and expected more from/. readers. This is not Young Republicans after all.
IT businesses in USA seem to be the western equivalent to Nike sweat shops.
Why would you NOT get paid for spending the remaining hours of your already limited time off work?
Here in the communist soviet nordic countries, and most civilized EU countries, you get paid 150% or 200% of the hourly wage. And before you start talking about bringing down companies to their knees by them actually paying their workers, last time I checked, the nordic software/tech companies are doing just fine.
But here I guess the terrorists have already won or what?
I do not claim to be an expert on anything. Most self-proclaimed experts tend to have something to hide, so I avoid it.
Flabbergasted? I do not know all facts, but what I have read NASA would have had Atlantis ready in that time, judging from the answers from the recent Q/A sessions. I guess you know better than NASA, in which case I give up.
The shuttle didnt have a feew weeks of supplies? So they starved during their entire mission and all missions start with no extra supplies? Give me a break. I almost do not want to discuss your other "facts", including, i quote "Lower orbits are higher speed." the point is not to maintain orbit, but to lower speed. There are different angles of ascent, and the ascent used by Colombia is most likely a compromise of many factors. If you can prove that it was the one that would have caused the absolutely least heat and stress, then you have taught me something. meanwhile i believe that given a longer time, the ascent would have been less stressfull to the wing. And you are entitled to your opinion or knowledge. I would very much like to learn, if you have the facts straight:)
Yes, a lower orbit requires a higher speed, obviously.
But I am not talking of maintaining orbit, I am talking of reducing speed gradually over a extended period of time. There are alternatives to pointing the nose down.
I quote you: "Things in a lower orbit require a higher speed, not a lower one." Ehh, I was talking of lowering the speed. "Either you're going to lower your orbit, or you're going to re-enter" Lowering orbit gradually at the same time as letting the drag lower the speed over time would reduce the speed without having to lower the speed where the atmosphere is dense, in a shorter time = less heat, less stress.
defaitist quote:
> The reentry path is already optimized to minimize heat loads on the vehicle.
> It cannot be optimized more to lessen the heat, so that option is right out.
On what do you base this? Given two weeks of braking at a lower angle, turning the shuttle around to fire main engines in the reverse direction etc, do you not believe the speed would have been reduced? This in combination with a lower angle ascent would have taken load off the wing.
You are probably basing your arguments on an earlier NASA statement that the shuttles are already brought down at an angle that optimizes their life-time. That angle is most probably based on an economical, safety and mission-time compromise.
I am sorry, but I would skip all economical aspects, ignore the experiments and start the slow ascent. And by skipping the experiments, and using the spare supplies, I could not care if I stayed in space 3 weeks instead of 2, as long as I get home safely.
I am sorry if this doesn't follow the book, but YOU are right out.
This sort of defaitism is certainly not what is needed to keep us going for the stars.
Why do you feel the need to shoot holes in rescue theories?
With the long mission time, if the shuttle would have been checked for damage right away, NASA would have had a long time (two weeks + how long spare oxygen/supplies would have lasted) to get a shuttle up to rendezvous with Colombia:
1: evacuate the crew by making an opening (yes, cutting up the hull to get the astronauts up is a viable option, despite your follow-the-book attitude) and before you mention missing space-suits, a vacuum proof tunnel would surely have been able to be constructed in a few weeks, not to mention the protection given by the evacuation suits.
2: repair the damages
More options:
yes, there was no robot arm to attach a tether to, but once again, ever heard of improvisation? glue hooks to attach the tether to in order to reach the damaged area
or make the re-entry at an even lower angle, interrupting research projectsand use friggin two weeks to lower speed and drop altitude
---
People like you make me depressed, you troll through positive ideas that might, if implemented, save lives in the future. Instead you shoot them down with your theories that are even more far-fetched than many of the ideas suggested. I am sorry, the book can not be followed in all situations.
Ever heard of the Soyuz?
Evil commie propaganda says they have put people in space.
Of course, we do not believe that....or the terrorists have already won.
The Russian Soyuz launch system allows the crew cabin to eject from the spacecraft and land with a 'chute. Of course this would only work during the launch, but still... It is a shame Challenger didn't have this possibility. Instead, the shuttles now have some kind of pole that the astronauts can descend on and parachute to safety. I personally would like to be in a parachute-equipped pod instead of trying to crawl out of a spacecraft breaking up.
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So Ericsson, Volvo (Swedish) and Nokia (Finnish) products is something we poop out while we loaf?
Get a clue, Sweden and Finland is socialist, yes, or a socialist democracy, very much like USA. Very few differences. Socialism != communism as practiced in the soviet union and the eastern block. It pretty much only means in today's society that there is a public sector that provides infrastructure and services (roads (you do have roads in USA, right?), schools (starting to doubt it), and medical care).
Not correct, Swedish mentality is just a myth.
Swedish girls are aggressive but reserved.
Finnish girls are openminded and forward
Swiss girls are like germans; daring
So what we would have wanted was finnish babes, in the SAUNAAB, built in SWITLERLAND by FINNISH and SWEDISH (not Swiss) people
Awful.. even in Europe there seems to be people who don't know the difference between Sweden and Switzerland.
The gravitational force (g) is in Norway around 9.82m/s^2. Note the ^2. An object accelerates downward with 9.82m/s per second. (in vacuum, and not exactly "down").
This discussion is whether this gravitational force is instant, or if it moves with the speed of light.
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I could not agree more. Kids can reboot, patch, upgrade and do all kinds of fantastic things on ftp servers running in their wardrobes. In a worst case scenario they might get flames for interrupting a pr0n video download, but in a more critical application a reboot or downtime can cost a whole lot of money and bad rep.
Not transfer of ownership, but of rights. This makes me wonder... why doesn't SCO take down the code from their own web pages? Perhaps the only employees left: Darl, a few accountants and a bunch of ex ambulance-chasing lawyers do not know how to do it, or even be aware of the presence of the COPYING files.
I have the same feeling. I'd think they just subscribed to Spamhaus info. (:
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I was really grumpy this morning, and a bit sick of the town where I live in. I thought I'd look into working elsewhere for a while. Perhaps in Europe outside of Sweden, where I live now, or perhaps in the USA. I got to work, and as every hard working employee I begin the day by reading Slashdot. I read this article about this silly little case-modding material using some "proprietary" technology that is not even encoded, and thus easy to reverse-engineer. I realsied that the DMCA would probably apply and the project would essentially be lawyer-bait if any part of the project was ran in the USA. Suddenly I am overcome with a feeling that I am pretty happy right where I am - A land where blind laws like the DMCA, terrorist act etc would never happen. We have a social democrat government that imitates the Bush government, but the ideas get somewhat diluted and toned down in the democratic process), so we might get a kinda-DMCA, a kind of terrorist act, but nothing at all like the USA. I am happy with the freedom of religion, as well as freedom FROM religion. I hope some positive court outcomes and cases thrown out from court will make the adverse effects of the laws and acts more realistic. Not because I want more ways to download w4r3z or pr0n, but because I want US engineers and hackers to get the freedom to research and develop without getting sued and jailed as terrorists or criminals for "crimes" that would not affect anyone to any greater extent. A sense of fear in the engineering community can have really bad long term effects. Back to the article... if anything, I would think hasbro would benefit from a reverse-engineering of their CDs, so case modders will buy their VideoNOW device, because I certainly would not, if I was a kid.
In Sweden I'd say ICQ (tech, normal and old time casual users) and MSN (new comp. users) have pretty much all users. The only people I know who have AIM or Yahoo support are the ones using Trillian etc, but very few have accounts for AIM or Yahoo, except in order to keep in touch with stubborn American friends who won't move to a more popular platform. I am not aware of anyone who uses AIM, that appears to be a very American thing to do. My impression is that it was what people used before MSN started to be pre-installed in the OSes. I have used ICQ since its "first wave" around 96 and 97, when my friends all started using it. They have since kept using ICQ, until it became bloated, after which Trillian and Jabber clients took over. Most Swedish (and european) web communities have places to enter the icq #, and sometimes the msn address. Yahoo and AIM are known only vaguely by the webmasters, and never supported.
The question is, if the creator of humans used 99.4% of the code lifted straight from the apes... is it a large enough difference so it would not be considered violation of Intellectual Property rights?
Does SCO own the rights, and is it just a plan to lure IBM into buying humanity for a huge profit for the current SCO owners?
Or is this a Microsoft plot to buy the rights to the humans, copyright the genome and send pirate hunters to track license violators.
- Will they insert a product activation code into all new humans created, where the child stops functioning if not registered.
- Will they include new bugs and get the new humans bloated (wait...)
- Will we be equipped with a Start button? (:
- Will the newborns cry "bling BLING bling BLINGGG" instead of "WAAAAH!" with their first breath?
- Will the new children make secret phonecalls to Microsoft telling on their parents?
- How will copy protection work? Chastity belts?
And will the open source movement provide an alternative with fresh code not depending on any components of the human genome?
I am glad to see that some people still have a sense of humour in this unreal debate between slashdotters and young republicans.
You do realize that your large military used for power projection and oppression is exactly why there is so much trouble in the world?
You seem to be pretty ignorant, since you think all European countries are the same, and that socialism is something very foreign compared to what the USA is. Socialism in europe (which one could be said is possible a small part of the govenrnemnts' ideologies) basically means a democracy with a large public sector, owning infrastructure assets. Ring a bell? You do have roads and schools (makes me wonder) in the USA? The US democracy can be discussed, though... Besides, European taxes range from less than in USA to more than USA (and used for other puropses than upkeeping a huge army), so please do not generalise all countries in Europe. I keep seeing this all the time, and expected more from /. readers. This is not Young Republicans after all.
IT businesses in USA seem to be the western equivalent to Nike sweat shops. Why would you NOT get paid for spending the remaining hours of your already limited time off work? Here in the communist soviet nordic countries, and most civilized EU countries, you get paid 150% or 200% of the hourly wage. And before you start talking about bringing down companies to their knees by them actually paying their workers, last time I checked, the nordic software/tech companies are doing just fine. But here I guess the terrorists have already won or what?
Aye to that, but we could spare the Canadians, they are OK.
No, GNODE
Companies actually existed without Internet connections in the Ancient Times, I have heard.
I do not claim to be an expert on anything. Most self-proclaimed experts tend to have something to hide, so I avoid it. Flabbergasted? I do not know all facts, but what I have read NASA would have had Atlantis ready in that time, judging from the answers from the recent Q/A sessions. I guess you know better than NASA, in which case I give up. The shuttle didnt have a feew weeks of supplies? So they starved during their entire mission and all missions start with no extra supplies? Give me a break. I almost do not want to discuss your other "facts", including, i quote "Lower orbits are higher speed." the point is not to maintain orbit, but to lower speed. There are different angles of ascent, and the ascent used by Colombia is most likely a compromise of many factors. If you can prove that it was the one that would have caused the absolutely least heat and stress, then you have taught me something. meanwhile i believe that given a longer time, the ascent would have been less stressfull to the wing. And you are entitled to your opinion or knowledge. I would very much like to learn, if you have the facts straight :)
Yes, a lower orbit requires a higher speed, obviously. But I am not talking of maintaining orbit, I am talking of reducing speed gradually over a extended period of time. There are alternatives to pointing the nose down. I quote you: "Things in a lower orbit require a higher speed, not a lower one." Ehh, I was talking of lowering the speed. "Either you're going to lower your orbit, or you're going to re-enter" Lowering orbit gradually at the same time as letting the drag lower the speed over time would reduce the speed without having to lower the speed where the atmosphere is dense, in a shorter time = less heat, less stress.
defaitist quote: > The reentry path is already optimized to minimize heat loads on the vehicle. > It cannot be optimized more to lessen the heat, so that option is right out. On what do you base this? Given two weeks of braking at a lower angle, turning the shuttle around to fire main engines in the reverse direction etc, do you not believe the speed would have been reduced? This in combination with a lower angle ascent would have taken load off the wing. You are probably basing your arguments on an earlier NASA statement that the shuttles are already brought down at an angle that optimizes their life-time. That angle is most probably based on an economical, safety and mission-time compromise. I am sorry, but I would skip all economical aspects, ignore the experiments and start the slow ascent. And by skipping the experiments, and using the spare supplies, I could not care if I stayed in space 3 weeks instead of 2, as long as I get home safely. I am sorry if this doesn't follow the book, but YOU are right out.
This sort of defaitism is certainly not what is needed to keep us going for the stars. Why do you feel the need to shoot holes in rescue theories? With the long mission time, if the shuttle would have been checked for damage right away, NASA would have had a long time (two weeks + how long spare oxygen/supplies would have lasted) to get a shuttle up to rendezvous with Colombia: 1: evacuate the crew by making an opening (yes, cutting up the hull to get the astronauts up is a viable option, despite your follow-the-book attitude) and before you mention missing space-suits, a vacuum proof tunnel would surely have been able to be constructed in a few weeks, not to mention the protection given by the evacuation suits. 2: repair the damages More options: yes, there was no robot arm to attach a tether to, but once again, ever heard of improvisation? glue hooks to attach the tether to in order to reach the damaged area or make the re-entry at an even lower angle, interrupting research projectsand use friggin two weeks to lower speed and drop altitude --- People like you make me depressed, you troll through positive ideas that might, if implemented, save lives in the future. Instead you shoot them down with your theories that are even more far-fetched than many of the ideas suggested. I am sorry, the book can not be followed in all situations.
Ever heard of the Soyuz? Evil commie propaganda says they have put people in space. Of course, we do not believe that. ...or the terrorists have already won.
The Russian Soyuz launch system allows the crew cabin to eject from the spacecraft and land with a 'chute. Of course this would only work during the launch, but still... It is a shame Challenger didn't have this possibility. Instead, the shuttles now have some kind of pole that the astronauts can descend on and parachute to safety. I personally would like to be in a parachute-equipped pod instead of trying to crawl out of a spacecraft breaking up.
So Ericsson, Volvo (Swedish) and Nokia (Finnish) products is something we poop out while we loaf? Get a clue, Sweden and Finland is socialist, yes, or a socialist democracy, very much like USA. Very few differences. Socialism != communism as practiced in the soviet union and the eastern block. It pretty much only means in today's society that there is a public sector that provides infrastructure and services (roads (you do have roads in USA, right?), schools (starting to doubt it), and medical care).
Not correct, Swedish mentality is just a myth. Swedish girls are aggressive but reserved. Finnish girls are openminded and forward Swiss girls are like germans; daring So what we would have wanted was finnish babes, in the SAUNAAB, built in SWITLERLAND by FINNISH and SWEDISH (not Swiss) people Awful.. even in Europe there seems to be people who don't know the difference between Sweden and Switzerland.
The gravitational force (g) is in Norway around 9.82m/s^2. Note the ^2. An object accelerates downward with 9.82m/s per second. (in vacuum, and not exactly "down").
This discussion is whether this gravitational force is instant, or if it moves with the speed of light.
Myom