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ryuzaki0
on from the sunroof-optional dept.
An anonymous reader writes "This groups combined some people from CERN, an old SAAB 900 Classic 5-door and a common desire to have a sauna."
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We'll Only If you could drive it.
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fozzy(pro)
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Well that great Saunas are coll and all, but it would be much more impressive if it was tricked out with some ground effects, a large spoiler, and of course wifi. Not to mention if it had an engine in it so you coul saun in fornt of the Arc De Triumph, the Whitehouse, Stone Henge
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Re:We'll Only If you could drive it.
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Anonymous Coward
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Just imagine a wireless beowulf cluster of old SAAB 900 Classic 5-door saunas outside the whitehouse... no, wait, (DMCA Invoked Against Garage Door Openers), we'd still be stuck in the garage... }=/
Re:We'll Only If you could drive it.
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Anonymous Coward
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Re:We'll Only If you could drive it.
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Anonymous Coward
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There are even smaller ones, and you can drive those: http://www.halavatunpapat.com/english.php (take a look at the second picture, it's a bad photo, but anyways) It's a sauna on a moped.
"The jolly club [Halavatun Papat] soon caught the attention of the media, with stunts like setting the unofficial world record - 29,5 hours - for bathing in a moped sauna. Welding a small cart into the shortened chassis of a moped created the basis of the moped sauna with a one-person sauna built on the cart."
Re:We'll Only If you could drive it.
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Anonymous Coward
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You're speling is atrosious. Let m'e aks you somethin: ha've you even finished high school? Do you thikn you coul?
Re:We'll Only If you could drive it.
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amd-core
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few years ago some estonian guys built sauna to the old firetruck... and it even moved... (it was shown in one eurovision clips...)
This is what you get when you have a high-unemployment rate in the tech business...
Driving around in new Saabs and Jaguars. Hmmm, perhaps I should quit my job, too, and get a decent car like that and start drinking beer and going to sauna...
Nah man, that's what you get with Cern scientists now that all the elementary particles have been discovered.
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WTF? It gets submitted by someone. Haven't you figured that part out yet?
(sorry, I'm kidding - who knows... someone obviously browses the net at "NaN: Whacked")
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Who's got the whiteout?
some crazy Swede or Finn nerd scientist modding an old Saab into a sauna is EXACTLY the kind of story that Slashdot should be doing. Rather this story that made me smile than yet another tedious DMCA squabble between idiot teen "hackers" and the occasional rational adult.
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then the flat tire
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grep_a_life
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and several sweaty men pour out of the SAAB to change it... not an exactly common sight
Right. My friend has a mercedes and there aren't a lot of places he can go in the state where his vehicle doesn't attract a lot of attention.
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Re:Heh
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Anonymous Coward
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Hey! We know what a SAAB is. WTF is a sauna?
Scandinavian people ... ?
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kruetz
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From the article:
On this page you will find a little story about some (crazy?) nordic people, an old SAAB 900 Classic
5-door and a common desire to have a sauna.
This is not the first sauna in a SAAB, I know of at least one SAAB 96 made into a sauna in Finland.
However, this is probably the only sauna built into a Classic 900...
This combines almost everything the stereotypical Scandinavian is known for... SAAB, sauna... they're missing a Volvo, but who wants a square, boxy sauna?
Not to mention the "bouncing Swedish funbags" (whatever they are!)
Seriously, though, in an icy-cold climate this takes car-heating to the MAX - kinda like case-modding with l33t h4x0rs. What next from the crazy Nordic fold? I'm almost scared to find out (but I think it'll involve rally-driving saunas)
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Who's got the whiteout?
Re:Scandinavian people ... ?
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Anonymous Coward
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Volvo is the Swedish Chevy.
Re:Scandinavian people ... ?
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Anonymous Coward
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Volvo beats the shit out of a chevy any day.
Re:Scandinavian people ... ?
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Razor+Sex
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I have a Volvo 850 T5 R, and with 240+ HP, it could be your rally sauna.
Re:Scandinavian people ... ?
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mmol_6453
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(but I think it'll involve rally-driving saunas)
I can see it now...tracks like that old NES game "Off-Road," were the goal is to get there first and have the most water left in your tub.
Tactics might include muddying up a corner so the guys behind you slide into the wall.
I'd hate to be in a collision, though. All that water would seriously add to the mass of the vehicle. Since the mass moves, it would be a really odd collission...the cars hit--but don't bounce apart until a few seconds later.
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Re:Scandinavian people ... ?
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Anonymous Coward
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Sauna as in a Finnish steam bath where the steam is provided by water thrown on hot stones. You're thinking of a hot tub.
Re:Scandinavian people ... ?
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Anonymous Coward
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I don't have a sauna Saab, but I do have a 9-3se that I'm turning in soon (coming off lease) - probably next week. Were I staying in the country, I would certainly get another one, but in Bermuda they don't have Saabs, only tiny little cars with small engines (even the new Mini is too big there... well, the engine).
I would post this over at saabnet.com, but I have a feeling they have already seen it.
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There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
I will have to make that decision soon. Checked out the new 9-3. No headroom. Rear end looks like a Honda. Plastic headlight lenses. Less legroom than my current 900s. Verry sad day. GM ruined that company IMHO. Considering a BMW and _that_ after a number of Swedes. Yup. Sad day.
As www came from cern I'm pretty sure they can take a slashdotting:)
Re:Karma whoring...
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Kynde
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Get yer mirror here [nowhere.nu].
That really _is_ Karma whoring. I'm inclined to think that the CERN web server could handle that part of the/. crowd that might be interested in saabs and/or sauna, e.g. none of the USians.:)
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When you say "USians" are you referring to citizens of the United States of Mexico, or the United States of America? If you meant the former, they're called Mexicans. If you meant the latter, they're called Americans.
When you say "USians" are you referring to citizens of the United States of Mexico, or the United States of America? If you meant the former, they're called Mexicans. If you meant the latter, they're called Americans.
And when you call your air force "US air force", do you not know wether is that of USA or Mexico ?
Come'on, there's no practical abiquity in "USian".
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Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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Anonymous Coward
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No one has to work in socialist counties. It's a loafer's paradise!
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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SamTheButcher
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My response to #3, 'cause it's a sweet hack! There have been stories about building a skyline of Manhattan outside of a kitchen, a Saab sauna is easily just as sweet.
Maybe not as visually pleasing or computer-related, but when you add the grill (and beer, natch), it's pretty great.
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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Anonymous Coward
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> Aside from the fact that this involves CERN, why > is this on/. ?
I still like it better than any of the Buffy/anime crap.
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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4ntifa
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Lapin Kulta is something I, as a Finn, am quite embarassed of.
It's a nearly tasteless lager which teenagers prefer because it doesn't taste like real beer. Lapin Kulta (translates to "Lappland's Gold") is the most popular Finnish beer. I think that's proof enough that most people's taste (not to mention intelligence) never really matures past teenage.
Personally, I'd recommend Olvi CXX. Much better. Even Karhu ("Bear") will do.
Anyway... any beer, any place and in any circumstances... IS GOOD!!! (especially after sauna)
-- -=- 4ntifa -=-
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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Anonymous Coward
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It's nice to see that Olvi is finally getting some respect. (Even Karjala is better than Lapin Kulta...)
It's funny that a lot of foreigners go through the same basic beer preference stages as Finns go through while growing up:
Lapin Kulta -> Karhu -> Smaller brands/Foreign beer (Mostly applies to NA's living in Finland)
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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10Ghz
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Personally, I'd recommend Olvi CXX
Yeah, CXX has those awesome ads:)
http://www.olvi.fi/mainos/presentaatio_mini.avi
http://www.olvi.fi/mainos/pefletti_mini.avi
Hi-resolution version are also available.
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Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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retards
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Yes, if you like your beer to taste like dirty mineral water.
Tastes like shit, but it gets you drunk.
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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4ntifa
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Actually, I'm twisted enough to enjoy even the nearly non-alcohol Olvi I. It's dirt cheap and tastes reasonably good. So why not, unless you're aiming to get drunk?
I admit that a slight "nirvana" of 3-5 beers is a preferable state of mind, but sometimes I only want to enjoy the taste and stay sharp.
Foreign beer... umm... Kilkenny... Caffrey's... ah, Irishmen sure can brew beer! A big "cheers" to all Irishmen, keep up the good work!
-- -=- 4ntifa -=-
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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Anonymous Coward
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We have an equivalent to your Lapin Kulta here in the USA.
It's called BUDWEISER.
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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CausticWindow
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Well.. while US lager like Budweiser and Miller is more like water with alcohol, Lapin Kulta actually tastes like beer even if the flavor is quite undistinct.
I've been told that czech Budweiser tastes great compared to the US version, but I've yet to taste it.
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Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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Anonymous Coward
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Too bad Lapin Kulta is pretty much the only Finnish beer you can easily get outside Finland.
And even then its the strange-tasting Export variety, which is very different from the supermarket-variety we Finns grew up with.;-)
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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Anonymous Coward
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Yeah. I'd say the adds are the only good thing in Lapin Kulta......but it tastes just fine compared to those afwul swedish beers!
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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pimeys
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Karhu is the most popular Finnish beer. Popular beers were listed few months ago in Helsingin Sanomat.
The list was something like this:
1. Karhu 2. Olvi 3. Lapin Kulta
And yes, Lapin Kulta do suck. I prefer Koff Porter IVB or Kilkenny beer.
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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Anonymous Coward
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Try it, please... It is about 50x better...:) And if you can find it, try and find some Becherovka to go with it http://www.janbecher.cz/english/
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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4ntifa
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It depends how popularity is measured. At least Lapin Kulta used to be no. 1 with a sizable margin when bars and restaurants were included in the statistics. Dunno if this has changed recently.
Most bars in Helsinki serve Lapin Kulta as their "default" beer and charge outrageous prices for better beers. Bastards!
-- -=- 4ntifa -=-
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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ddillman
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Aside from the fact that this involves CERN, why is this on/. ?
To answer your last question: It's a case mod, stupid!:-)
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Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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Anonymous Coward
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The techinical term is "raindeer piss"
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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SamTheButcher
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This seems to be the case with Foster's from Australia. It's the most heavily marketed Australian beer here in America, but most Australians will tell you that it's crap.
Which, as someone has already pointed out, is the case with Budweiser and I would add Coors Light. My guess is that they're only available overseas because they can produce the volume and/or get the distribution agreements.
For a beer that's more indicative of the proliferation of great American beers, I'd guess that Sam Adams is more readily available overseas. If you wanted to give that a try.
Re:This brings a few questions to mind...
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myom
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So Ericsson, Volvo (Swedish) and Nokia (Finnish) products is something we poop out while we loaf?
Get a clue, Sweden and Finland is socialist, yes, or a socialist democracy, very much like USA. Very few differences. Socialism != communism as practiced in the soviet union and the eastern block. It pretty much only means in today's society that there is a public sector that provides infrastructure and services (roads (you do have roads in USA, right?), schools (starting to doubt it), and medical care).
Lots of pics
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Anonymous Coward
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This site is going to be slashdotted in no time. Did anyone ask these guys if they were ready to handle this?
Not correct, Swedish mentality is just a myth.
Swedish girls are aggressive but reserved.
Finnish girls are openminded and forward
Swiss girls are like germans; daring
So what we would have wanted was finnish babes, in the SAUNAAB, built in SWITLERLAND by FINNISH and SWEDISH (not Swiss) people
Awful.. even in Europe there seems to be people who don't know the difference between Sweden and Switzerland.
CERN, an old SAAB 900 Classic 5-door and a common desire to have a sauna...
... not to mention a thoroughly/.'ed server, nach.
just what I always wanted
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Sophrosyne
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Ive always wanted to be able to sit around naked with a bunch of my best male friends and cook big sauasages.. If only I could drive around in my Sauna-mobile too.. wow I'd be the coolest kid in the universe *sarcasam*
Re:just what I always wanted
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mni12
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You clearly have never been in Finland (or Sweden). This is what we do for fun.
C'mon...it is dark and miserably 6 months a year. What would be better than go to sauna and take some beer.
Re:just what I always wanted
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Anonymous Coward
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I don't think it's possible to be cooler than your homepage pics where you're licking/kissing some sort of stuffed animal.
Re:just what I always wanted
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joe52
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What would be better than go to sauna and take some beer.
Going to the sauna with a woman?
Re:just what I always wanted
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Anonymous Coward
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Naah....you can do whatever you do with a woman after the sauna. It is too hot to have sex anyway...
What would be better than go to sauna and take some beer?
Hrm, that's a tough one... let me take a stab... ...moving?
I have a rule- Don't live in a place where you can die by going outside.
Re:just what I always wanted
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Anonymous Coward
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Don't move to any city, or even a small town. There are people everywhere that can kill you. I kinda wish someone would.
Re:just what I always wanted
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Longjmp
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I remember some of the best sex I had in a sauna.
Shortly after we got married - just not to each other...;)
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Re:just what I always wanted
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trolleri
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If you're thinking about having sex in a sauna, I advice you to get some clue. The sauna is and has always been seen as the neutral zone, the clean zone. Having sex in the sauna is something americans and other gay people have comed up with.
In Sweden, Norway an Finland the sauna is sacred.
Re:just what I always wanted
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THEbwana
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:-) Personally, I follow a somewhat modified motto: Don't live in a place where the _climate_ might kill you if you go outside.
I would prefer living in - say - Joburg, even though the crime can be a bit iffy at times, than living in the nordic region (where the climate is iffy most of the time).
Re:just what I always wanted
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theperplepigg
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What would be better than go to sauna and take some beer.
Going to the sauna with a woman?
and best results are obtained if you have both.
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Re:just what I always wanted
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Anonymous Coward
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This from the continent that brought us gay Greek bathhouses? I would hardly act all high and mighty.:-)
Re:just what I always wanted
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hauva
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Well, we Finnish - and probably the Swedish too - tend not mind of going to sauna when there are both male and female present. Being naked in sauna is as natural as being born naked.
A nice page but what horrifies me as a Finn is the fact that the guys drank "Lapin Kulta" - the Finnish are quite able to brew good beer.
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Re:I'd rather have a jacuzi in my car
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Lord_Slepnir
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They're from Finland. For them, summer is the three months out of the year when it's not below zero degrees. I guess you could just blast the heater, but it's a dry heat. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go finish fitting the new wooden bench into my old volvo....
Re:I'd rather have a jacuzi in my car
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goon+america
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Finally we have an answer to the age old question.
Q: Why are no black cars in Arizona?
A: There are if you're Swedish.
Re:I'd rather have a jacuzi in my car
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4ntifa
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Weather today...
Southern Finland: -6 to -2 Centigrades, sunny (as soon as the sun comes up... only to disappear in a couple of hours... now, at 8AM, it's still pitch black out there) Northern Finland: -23 to -7 Centigrades, half-cloudy (and there's no such thing as the sun, people expect to catch a glimpse of it somewhere around March). (source: Finnish Meteorology Institute / http://www.fmi.fi)
I consider the weather nice and warm. Just last week it was frequently below -20 Centigrades, here in _southern_ Finland. No wonder Hell of the Nordic tales ("Ragnaroek") does freeze over! (not that the Norse mythology was a Finnish thing, we've cooked our own mythos, "Kalevala", which is highly recommendable reading to every Tolkien fan)
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Re:I'd rather have a jacuzi in my car
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bongoras
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hmm... wonder why Linus Torvalds ever moved to California... he's missing out on all that high culture and wonderful weather.
Re:I'd rather have a jacuzi in my car
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k98sven
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Who wants a sauna, honestly? You might as well just get a car without air conditioning.
Actually, since air-conditioning is not standard equipment on cars sold in Scandinavia (duh!) having AC has become a bit of a status symbol..
"Look, I have so much money I even spend it on AC for my car, which I have the pleasure of using two days a year."
Given that anything that can even remotely be construed as bragging is frowned upon in these countries, that's about as extravagant as people get.
DARN
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Anonymous Coward
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The Darned Slashdot effect! This one I would have REALLY wanted to see!
Entirely Too Much Money ...
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SuperDuG
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First they rip apart a saab, but that's not the entirely too much money comment...
the last picture, is that not a bottle of Dom?? Wow, enough money to drink dom in a sauna car.
And as usual, here's my opinion, I think turning a car into a sauna is stupid. Since I have made an ontopic post that has a negative not so funny undertone, I will automatically be troll/flaimbait.
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Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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mni12
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Must be swedes...bottle of Dom after sauna. They must be kidding...
Here is some information on sauna . It is not stupid idea to turn a car into sauna. I would like to have one here in the U.S.
Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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Anonymous Coward
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the value of the 1980 SAAB here in Sweden is less or equal to $ 100... Heck, I got mine (a 1986 Saab 900 GLs) for free!
Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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Anonymous Coward
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You're correct - that is not a bottle of Dom.
Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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EnglishTim
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Dude, that could be any bottle of Champagne. It's not that expensive.
Anyway - don't you mean 'Don' - as in Don Perignon? or is this some American slang for something we don't get over here?
Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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Dynedain
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its Dom Perignon, not 'Don'
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Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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EnglishTim
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Interesting. A search on the web would indicate that both 'Dom' and 'Don' are in use.
Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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jshare
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Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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Dynedain
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This article includes a picture of the label. I have seen it in stores, although I have never had it (too expensive in the US because of taxes/tariffs on foreign alcohol).
When referring to the champagne, 'Don' is a typo, as many people are familiar with the Spanish title, and as such easily confuse it with the very similar sounding Dom.
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Re:Entirely Too Much Money ...
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EnglishTim
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Well there you go. You learn a new thing every day.
Re:Who cares?
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Anonymous Coward
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Why don't you go stick your head up a cow's ass.
American media has been ignoring Indians
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Anonymous Coward
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So what if NASA is full of people born in India ?? People born in India are everywhere.. from the director of movie Signs to Sun Microsystems co-founder. Over 20% of Microsoft employees are of Indian Origin. Thousands of doctors and dentists in US and UK are of Indian origin... Do you know that the president of Pepsi (PepsiCo)was born in India (her name is Indra Nooyi). She is also PepsiCo's chief Financial Officer !! So ? What's the big deal ?? Agreed that American media always ignores Indians but sooner or later they will accept it..
Re:American media has been ignoring Indians
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Anonymous Coward
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The media doesn't ignore Indians. Didn't we give you Apu?!?
You're on the Simpsons because your accents are fucking hilarious!
Re:American media has been ignoring Indians
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Anonymous Coward
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Agreed !!
But the point was that the media ignores the contribution made by Indians and portrays them as characters that are basically a caricature. The end result being that the American public always has only that image in their minds.
As far as Apu goes, India is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious and multi-cultural society and people from southern India do have a funny accent which is a subject of constant ridicule even from people (and media) in North India.
Re:American media has been ignoring Indians
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computer_redneck
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Gotta love a country with a president that says that his country can take a couple nukes but yours wont exist afterwards.
-- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - BF
Yours probably had such niceties as a functional combustion engine, a steering wheel and brakes. Apparently, this one only has a parking brake.
Yes. It really IS a sauna... Note the Valmet sauna thermometer and the working
handbrake on the left side of the stove.
I hope they at least remembered to turn the wheels in towards the curb if they're parked on a hill! It would definately ruin the party if the sauna started rolling down the block (pretty hard to explain too!).
-- No one got beat up more often than the mimes of the old west!
Great just what we all wanna see....
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red-beard's
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Whatever this has to do with tech is beyond me . But the mental image is great . A bunch of sweaty naked queers jammed into a saab . Sick . If this is your lifestyle choice please keep it off slashdot .
This proves it
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Anonymous Coward
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There aren't enough women in the tech sector. Come by and sit in a warm place with your sausage in hand? No thanks Sven, 'fraid I gotta double-opt out on that magic tonight..
Don't get me wrong, the vehicle mods are quite cool..
http://www.eskimo.com/~juha/mobile.html - These things seem to be pretty common, actually...ok, maybe not. But more common than one would most likely expect.
This doesn't move alone, but is certainly mobile, and has been in reasonably active use around the HUT campus for a decade or so, and sometimes a bit further. The page is in Finnish but the pictures are good... Sauna-Auto
You'll want to be damn careful you don't touch the ignition key;)
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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
Under the Hot Rocks is their Webserver
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cyber_rigger
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This Sauna Heated by the Slashdot Effect
Re:Under the Hot Rocks is their Webserver
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mijok
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well, it has water-cooling...
(For those that aren't familiar with traditional saunas: People throw water on the rocks to make the sauna steamy.)
-- Karma. Moderation. Is my.sig good now?
It is obviously...
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deglr6328
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..only a matter of time until an ANTI-SAUNABB is built in order to be smashed into the SAUNABB.
-- - "Hear that?! The percolations are imminent! Cease your ingress!"
wierd but nice
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presearch
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It's wierd and all but the woodwork is very nice. I especially like the roof. For most of us writing software all day, it's nice to see things crafted out of steel and wood. Something real, not made from bits that are on the road to being obsolete and forgotten as soon as it's built.
I don't think I'd have carpentry skills but I'm considering getting out of programming and doing something with atoms. Glassblowing seems like it would be fun and rewarding. Certainly more fun than declaring my two millionth variable....
Nice work guys.
Re:wierd but nice
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Anonymous Coward
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Something real, not made from bits that are on the road to being obsolete and forgotten as soon as it's built
Jesus. Yes, get out of this business. You have no business being here.
Re:wierd but nice
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ediron2
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I especially like the roof. For most of us writing
software all day, it's nice to see things crafted
out of steel and wood. Something real, not made
from bits that are on the road to being obsolete
and forgotten as soon as it's built.
I don't think I'd have carpentry skills but I'm considering
getting out of programming and doing something with
atoms. Glassblowing seems like it would be fun and
rewarding. Certainly more fun than declaring my two
millionth variable...
Jesus. Yes, get out of this business. You have no business being here.
Get a grip, man.
I think you'd be surprised how many computer professionals feel an air of intangibility about what we write or maintain, and I've written five times more worthless on-demand code than stuff I treasure.
The lead developer in my last job had a PhD in applied math, was leading the charge in a full J2EE implementation so we WOULD have a stronger likelihood of writing useful reusable code elegantly... and his true love was woodworking.
His words: "it's nice to make something that is tangible and that will still be around and usable twenty or a hundred years from now".
Me, if I could do it all over again, I swore midway through grad school, I'd be a chef. I'm a positively brilliant cook, there's pretty good pay, less schooling, great relocatability to let me live/move anywhere I want, and it has a great immediate feedback system: In all my years, nobody's ever walked up to me and said "Ya know, that is one incredible integral equation you've worked out there."
But that's just one physics/computer geek talking...
For most of us writing software all day, it's nice to see things crafted out of steel and wood. Something real, not made from bits that are on the road to being obsolete and forgotten as soon as it's built.
Damn, you really put your finger on something I have been feeling a lot lately. I finally finished my CS education and started working. My boyfriend is an engineer and spends most his free time tinkering and building things. Cars, engines, boats, electronics, houses... I discovered it feels much more satisfying when you are finished and have something you can touch, something that you can show to others and have the quality of the thing appreciated. It's also more fun to move around and do more physical work instead of just staring at a screen all day.
I have a huge gap in my education here, I'm have spent most my life studying and doing theoretical things, I really have my thumb in the middle of my hand when it comes to handicrafts, but I'm slowly learning...
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Learn how to spell "weird" It's a colloquialism. Something weird & wired. Similar to crufty.
Re:wierd but nice
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Jesus. Yes, get out of this business. You have no business being here. Why? Because I don't have a positive attitude towards software development and I might put something out that isn't up to the standards of the programming guild? Woah. Heaven forbid that there's some software out there that isn't like it's from God's own hand. Hey, M$ has turned sub-standard coding into an art.
Being here... And where exactly is that? In the Linux Open Source community? A bunch of programmers working for free trying to play catch-up with a homemade version of a 30 year old OS? In the IT industry, where it's turning into a 21st century combination of ditch digging, janitorial services and baby sitting?
Sure, there's occasions where the work rises to the level of Art. But for the most part, we're as boring as accountants and insurance salesmen, in more comfortable clothes. Hey, I've been doing this for a long time. I wrote my first hello.c in 1978. I've tried to keep things at the highest level, writing code like poetry, embracing the Zen. Guess what? For the most part, almost nobody cares. They gripe about the length of time it took to do things "right" (and don't want to pay for it), wouldn't know quality if it bit 'em on the nose (witness the huge growth of M$, Wal-Mart and H1-B seat fillers), or the beauty is buried beneath the surface - what an elegant hashing routine you've written!
So yes, maybe it's time to get out. But not because "here" doesn't think I'm up to standards and not contributing to the wide, wonderful world of computers. I just look back at the things I've written and 98% of it is gone, delete, obsolete, served it's purpose, and terribly outdated.
In the world of Glass, Metal, Wood, and Stone, there's a chance of something having some lasting value, at least from an aesthetic point of view. I know that if I took up wood carving tomorrow that the world wouldn't be beating a path to my door. The majority would be griping about the time it took, wouldn't want to pay for it, or wouldn't appreciate the beauty beneath. But at least it would have a bit more staying power. Even just a little. The shelf life of most programming work is next to nothing.
Yes, it's made money, I've been able to build a life, raise great kids and for that I'm grateful. Maybe that's legacy enough. It's just feeling a bit empty.
No kidding. I spend all day doing systems admin ( 6 years at the same company now) and programming. On the weekends and after work, all I can think of is crafting. Something. Anything. So right now I'm restoring a 75 Stingray Corvette, and turning a Corvair Monza into a Corvair GTO.
It's really weird. I don't see why it is that so many "computer professionals" spend so much time crafting, but they sure do. I don't know why I do it either.
-WS
-- An operating system should be like a light switch... simple, effective, easy to use, and designed for everyone.
Space sauna? Think: a big, hot, wobbly sphere of water. No, wait, that's a space hot tub -- a space sauna would be a zero-g steam cloud. Oh, man, those cockpit windows are gonna fog like a bitch.
Getting back on topic...
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Experts want to grow new genetically modified varieties but there are fears people won't want GM bananas.
Hell, if these people can make a SAAB sauna, I can't see any problem with a GM banana.
Re:Getting back on topic...
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This should have been modded (Score:5, Funny).
This guy just compared SAAb Sauna to GM (General Motors) Banana !!
(GM - Genetically Modified)
hotdogs? this is a total sausage party
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now wonder these fukkers cant get laid; they all drive saabs.
-- A name you can trust.
Culture Shock
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In Sweden they sit around in artificial steamy heat indoors then plunge into the Winter cold. In Washington DC we walk around in steamy Summer heat and then plunge into artificial cold.
Actually, there is no reason for most Americans (in the South anyway) to have a complex about not being as tech savvy as Swedes because we already have the artificial cold built into the car, and we can drive them.
If the AC isn't cold enough to give small children headaches and fog up your glasses, it's not cold enough, d#$@% it.
Actually, I'm poking good-natured fun at both cultures here. Frankly, the Summer ice-box mentality here in the US is something that I've come to dislike. Not only does it waste a lot of energy, but I've heard some theories that kidney disease has increased because we don't sweat as much as we used to--all the stuff that used to get sweated out gets taken care of by the kidneys and puts more stress on them. I haven't seen any studies to back that up though.
The hot to cold transition that Swedes practice is something I don't think I could tolerate. I've tried turning the shower nozzle to cold, and I could just feel myself starting to go into shock. I guess if I had been doing it from the time I was a little boy that wouldn't happen.
Do most Swedes dunk in ice-cold water after a sauna, or are there some people who can't tolerate it? I think if I went there, I could handle the nudity part, but then I'd have to pass on the cold water which might actually be more embarrassing if everybody else is doing it.
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Re:Culture Shock
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Not all people jump into ice-cold water after sauna. But there is a small minority who practise that every day. They claim that it is good for your health and in general they tend to avoid flu and cold better compared to folks who don't do it. There is some information about "avantounti" in here. "Avantouinti" is the Finnish word for swimming in ice-cold water (through a hole in the ice).
In Sweden they sit around in artificial steamy heat indoors then plunge into the Winter cold.
I think that's done more in Finland than in Sweden. After all, sauna is a primarily a finnish phenomena.
Ah, first hot and steamy sauna, then roll around naked in the snow. Then back to sauna again. It's quite... refreshing.
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Re:Culture Shock
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As a finn I must comment before 99% of Slashdot readers think that Sauna is from Sweden and swedish are the "sauna people" of scandinavia.
Sauna is originally from Finland and the sauna density in Finland is the highest in the whole universe. (not sure but maybe 1 sauna for every 3 habitants?)
Also in most saunas outside of Finland (in which I've been) the temperature is too low (under 80 degrees C) with some pleasant exceptions of course. In some saunas abroad it's not even allowed to throw water on the stow (thats löyly).
The Sauna culture is really a bit more than just "lets heat up this room and get swetty".
you can read more from http://www.sauna.fi/pages/traditi.htm
Re:Culture Shock
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Actually, swedes don't know much about Sauna. I've seen horrible examples of this when visiting sweden. Some "saunas" in there are only mildly warm, like +40C only - and people just sit there and read newspapers. Some swe-saunas have air exchange ventilation into room next door, which whill definately cause problems with moisture if the sauna is used properly. Generally it seems, that in those houses that have sauna in sweden, they use it for drying clothes. Drainage has seldom taken care of.
In Finland, we have long traditions of using sauna as a place to sweat the dirt and stress out and wash up. The idea is not to punish and abuse ones body, just to sweat, relax and get clean.
THE SAUNA-HOWTO:
1. Heat up the sauna up to +70C..+100C (up to you) 2. Undress, wash up 3. Climb up to the seats on the sauna (feet above the level of stones in stove) 4. Toss some clean, warm water onto stones. Control the amount of steam up to your liking by tossing more or less water into stove. Keep the moisture up! 5. Sweat for a while, if you feel too hot, step down from the seats and wash the sweat off. Chill down for a while. (Don't go into cold water or snow straight away. Might be bad if you have a heart condition hiding.) 6. When you feel like it, repeat steps 3-5. 7. When you feel that you are ready, wash up well. 8. Dry yourself, take some time relaxing and cooling down before dressing up.
Remember to drink alot of water to replace the water you lost by sweating!
And for you who live in hot climate: after sauna, that heat outside doesn't feel that hot anymore.
Re:Culture Shock
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More about that: "Sauna" is the only Finnish word that has become a common loan word in other languages. The Swedish word for it, "bastu", makes more sense though since it's derived from "bad-stuga" (in ancient Nordic-speak), which translates roughly to "bath cabin". And about saunas in cars: I know two more of these in Finland and they can be driven - a nice way to travel;)
The hot to cold transition that Swedes practice is something I don't think I could tolerate. I've tried turning the shower nozzle to cold, and I could just feel myself starting to go into shock.
That's a very different experience to coming out of a sauna. Sitting in there for an extended period heats you so thoroughly that coldness is a blessed relief. Even better, the heat goes so *deep* that you emerge from the lake or snowbank still feeling warm inside (provided you don't stay there too long). I think doctors call it "core temperature" or something -- the difference between a reading from your armpit and one from your arse;-).
It's also worth remembering that snow doesn't actually conduct heat very well, since there's so much air in it. So rolling in snow is less terrifying than it sounds. Snow at -15 Celsius feels about as cold as water at +5...
And, as has already been stated, Swedes (in general) don't tend to be as keen on hardcore Sauna-ing as the Finns. A Finnish relative of mine was working on a construction project in Libya a while back, and the first thing the Finns did was build themselves a sauna -- the daytime temperature in the shade was already about that of a Swedish sauna:-). For some reason the Libyans thought this a little odd. Can't think why...
Re:Culture Shock
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Now that will be a shock for you: me, my girlfriend and our friends were in the sauna(naked) with temperature about 130degrees Celsius and then we went outside(-27C) in the snow. 150C degrees of temperature difference - now that is fun:)
It wasnt in Sweden though, it was in Estonia, but it is close enuf for people in US.
After reading this post, I just couldn't help myself from answering.
Actually, swedes don't know much about Sauna.
Why do I get the feeling you are finnish?:)
If you haven't realized it yet, people from finland don't really like swedes, and the same goes the other way around.
I think this goes for a lot of neighbouring countries though. The US is the fifth canadian territory, right?:)
Anyways, the point is that saunas in Sweden are not bad. The bad examples you gave is something I have never come across, and I lived in Sweden for over 18 years. There is even a sauna in my dad's house back in Sweden, and we always heat it to about +80C.
Unfortunately I have to agree...at least public saunas at gyms and so on. You usually have to pour a bucket of water over them (a little bit at a time) and wait half an hour for the element to reheat to get a decent warmth.
Other things not hot enough in Sweden for me are the summers...and Thai food!
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Re:Culture Shock
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I live in Sweden, and a Swede was trying to explain the Sauna tradition, he asked:
"What's the English word for the hole in the ice that you jump through after you have been in the Sauna?"
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Re:Culture Shock
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Not all people jump into ice-cold water after sauna. But there is a small minority who practise that every day. They claim that it is good for your health and in general they tend to avoid flu and cold better compared to folks who don't do it.
They tend to better resist colds and the flue because all the weak ones were killed by this treatment a long time ago.
-- ~Idarubicin
Re:Culture Shock
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I might note that sauna is Finnish... I am referring specfically to the word itself. As far as the relationship between the Finn's and the Swede's... perhaps being invaded and ruled by your neighbor doesn't promote a whole lot of good will... but then again that was all in the past. On another note my 89 year old Grandfather can still stand the heat in the sauna... and the cold thereafter.
If you haven't realized it yet, people from finland don't really like swedes, and the same goes the other way around. I think this goes for a lot of neighbouring countries though. The US is the fifth canadian territory, right?:)
That's just it. For those not so deeply aware of our situation here, there is no real dislike between most finns and swedes, just friendly picking between neighbours.
I don't like the language though... but that probably has more to do with it being compulsory subject here than anything else.
Re:Culture Shock
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I bet 99.9% of Americans didn't know that Canada has 4 territories, including me.
Do most Swedes dunk in ice-cold water after a sauna, or are there some people who can't tolerate it? I think if I went there, I could handle the nudity part, but then I'd have to pass on the cold water which might actually be more embarrassing if everybody else is doing it.
I got used to sauna's when staying (for a change) at a great hotel week after week years ago. I'd work out a bit at night (they had a huge gym) and after I'd messed myself up a bit, hired one of their trainers a few times to get some routines that wouldn't bother a pulled muscle. He suggested the sauna as well. (Finnish? Swede? I don't know, he came with the accent, but I don't know which one.) No cold lake with ice, but ice cold shower afterwards. (actually, alternating showers afterward but first was ice cold). The nudity wasn't a bid deal but the ice cold shower. That DID take some getting used to. But that's the one time I missed a place when the assignment was done after spending about six months there. I never had a period of time where I'd slept better (being the insomnia type usually) and also had more energy during the day.
I rarely use AC even in the Atlanta summers. I find the 4-90 AC to work just fin.
for the ignorant a 4-90 ac is rolling down all 4 windows and getting on the highway.
Re:WATCH YOUR MOUTH!
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guys, gals...trust me - it's 100 C (212F) in a typical sauna. It is way too hot. Been there, tried that. Does not work out. You will fry before you are done.
and in other news
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if you soak ur balls in 120degree water for 45 mins a day for two weeks, u will be sterile for 2 months...u may pick ur own units for the temperature, but i'm thinking u'll figure out the correct ones after trial and error....(hint it needs to be rather warm)
the possiblities are that: a) ur jewish 2) ur wife won't let u have a nice car (if u have one) or d) ur still a virgin and don't know how good pussy feels....
I found one error in the article
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Lapin Kulta is not really that good a beer... Especially when it comes in a tin can. But it's cheap and it's beer. If you want quality, avoid it and buy Czech.
# Imagine a Beowulf cluster... Would that be a traffic jam of cars like this? # But can it run Linux?
No, but I'm sure that Linus, as a Finn, would enjoy running it...
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Re:Obligatory
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# In Sovie^H^H^H^H^H Nazi Germany, you don't NEED a sauna!
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No, but I'm sure that Linus, as a Finn, would enjoy running it...
a) A lot of steam...
b) An engine hot enough to cook food
I could thing of a couple of other cars that almost come equipped like this anyways... perhaps a kia?
In all seriousness though, what can you do with a trashed out rusty car... other than sticking it in a junkyard to be made into a trash-compacted cube? A sauna sounds like a pretty cool idea... makes me wonder what other things one could do with a car. Perhaps if they had a convertible... a hot-tub?
For some old vehicles which have suffered accidents... you have a body which is slightly mangled (maybe not drivable) but not too bad, and a working engine. The engine can be a power source... a heat source... whatever.
When not moving, many cars can run for hours while using very little gas... many around here become portable entertainment centers (big stereos) for bush parties, etc.
Sooooo... how many people can think of alternate uses for these cars. If it's not too crazy, be inventive, and we've got a lot of ingenious people out there. I've got an old '88 Toyota that still runs quite well, although the body is shite. I might consider donating it if it doesn't sell and somebody can think of something cool for it?
I always thought Kias were come-in-a-box-and-build-it-yourself. I do know a few DAEWHOAs and modded imports that do that (some only have stickers, but by default, these stickers offer hotter, faster, speedier and ricier performance).
I aint ingenious, but maybe you could change it to: a) Home Entertainment Center (DVDs and the works), fun and great for dates (includes backseats) b) a speed boat, I saw someone do that before c) Fireplace d) huge, rolling, disco ball
Well, you can put a drum inside. Drill two holes on it and plug hoses to the hole. Make sure it won't leak. Then, to simulate the stream, connect the hoses to...
Give me my pickup truck and a gun rack and I am happy
No doubt. Gotta have some place to hang your level. Love that "Calvin pissing on Ford emblem" decal. Sweet. And that backwards leaning number "3" sticker. Now THAT's class!
Well,
I'm one of the proud builders. We, who built the SAUNAAB live far, far, far away from the nordic countries. At least almost 2000km (more than 1000 miles) away at least. So, since we miss our saunas soooo much, we just had to build one.
The reason for it to end up in a SAAB is that one of the guys own more than 20 SAAB's already and one was up for the scrap yard (as Nordics we usually take care of this, not leaving it for coming generations in the back yard.;=) ). We kind of thought of it as a cool idea. All work was done late evenings and week ends. No unemployment here... We have to take care of those anti matter particles daytime, you know.
Well, the SAUNA experience in the SAAB is very good. The steam hits you harder in the small volume the SAAB offers than in bigger saunas.
Anyone nearby Geneva is welcome to have a look.;=)//magnus
Re:There you go!
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You should be proud. I wish I had one of these in my backyard. How was the tongue-and-groove wood attached to the car interior and insides of the doors? I don't see the fasteners on most of the wood trim. Also, how much propane does something like that go through, and for the sauna's size, did the size of the heater and the amount of rocks come out alright?
2000km is nothing! Try going to college in Boston:-) Our "sauna" has a sign that forbids throwing water on the rocks (apparently it will be damaged... go figure) and people come into it in their excercise clothes (with shoes) to warm up (not that it's warm enough anyway).
Man what I wouldn't give for one of those SAABs right now...
Muuten, jos joku Bostonissa asuva suomalainen sattuu lukemaan tämän, niin olisin kiinnostunut kunnon saunan löytämisestä.
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Re:There you go!
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I am interested in doing a similiar project and would like more information on how it was constructed - type of wood you used, modifications to the window flass? How the wood was attached to the interior metal frame of the vehicle? Countersunk metal screws? Seems like a wonderful project, and the woodwork looks great!
It reminds me of the sauna-game "Jokka". You take 6 people and a case of vodka, pour the vodka on the sauna - and wait a while. Afterwards someone leaves the sauna and the rest has to guess who!
This game can be played by two players as well, but it requires more vokda!
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Finland Finland Finland.....
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Ahhhhh.... Makes me yearn for the days when I was a professor in Finland.
I had a sauna in my apartment, and my students taught me an old Finnish custom - turn the sauna up to about 105 (that's C), and stay in until you can't stand it any more. Then run outside and flop in the snow until you can't stand it any more. Then return to the sauna. Repeat as necessary.
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Re:Finland Finland Finland.....
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> old Finnish custom - turn the sauna up to about 105 (that's C), and stay in until you can't stand it any more. Then run outside and flop in the snow until you can't stand
it any more. Then return to the sauna. Repeat as necessary.
"Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had."
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This explains a lot, really.
Re:Finland Finland Finland.....
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Why is it modded funny? This is how it supposed to be. But I might prefer even little higher temperatures and some rest after snow or ice water
yet another one...
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http://tak.tky.hut.fi/liikkuvat/sauna/T-lehti.ht m
Come to Tucson some time
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Sycraft-fu
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It can, and does, exceed 40 degrees celcius (104 degrees farenheit) almost every year and has been know to climb as high as 47 degrees. In Phoenix (just north of here) it has reached 50 degrees before. I think you can see why airconditioning might be rahter essential. If noithng else, computers will die in that kind of heat.
SAUNAAB -Comment by one of the creators.
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Hello everyone,
I am glad to see that most of you like what I and my friends built! It is actually a quite good SAUNA. We wanted a SAUNA and I had an "extra SAAB" available. Add some imagination and there you go...:-)
Have a nice day all!
Cheers, Magnus -One of the constructors of the SAUNAAB.
Why when I read this article do pictures of country loving, huge rusty truck obsessed, confederate flag hics come into mind?
Because that's what the fun bits of *any* country are like.
If there are no flames, explosives, lasers, guns, loud music, dangerous agricultural machinery, alcohol or barbecued food involved, you're probably not really having fun. Come to the north-west of Scotland, and we'll show you.
This just confirms that Finnish people are mad. But especially about saunas. I worked in Finland for nearly a year. When I was looking round for a flat to rent, only about half of them had baths, but they all had saunas. One flat even had two saunas. But then, the offical figures are 1,500,000 saunas in a country of 4,500,000 people, so that's at least one per household. Where I worked, the main meeting room had a sauna next to it. You can even get saunas with full video conferencing or internet facilities now, for the executive who always needs to stay in touch (http://www.mediatampere.fi/sauna/).
Fun to see this car is ok Ok to go in swiss motorway: On the 3td piture from the bottom one ca see the 'stample' on the windshield. This simply says the car's owner has paid the taxes to go on the swiss motorway:-)
Would be funny to see:-)
Does that come with a 5 yr/50,000 gallon warranty?
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eforhan
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... or would that only come in litres?
SAAB
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SAAB = Swedish aerospace incorporated (AB = aktie bolag)
At first I thought you'd be able to drive it
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Not that this isn't an accomplishment, but that would really be something to brag about
if we did that...
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You can laugh without eating a sandwhich, but you can do both if bring one.
Offtopic but Ms. Chawla...
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...is quite fine. I didn't know such there were such pretty astronauts. I mean look at Sally Ride!!! ^_^
In this light, I think it's safe to say I'm a shoe-in for the ISS program because I'm so goddamn cute. Please support my campaign: Rei in space in 2004.
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ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
Is it normal to barbecue hot dogs on a sauna? It's a really good idea. I'm hungry.
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Well, sausage at least. I have never heard of anyone making hot dogs (with bread) while bathing in sauna. Exept the link, of course.
Saunas in general do not necessarily have a grill or a fireplace where to barbecue a sausage (which seems to be a finnish national food), but you can wrap the sausages in an aluminium foil and put them on the hot stove for a half an hour or so. Enjoy with mustard and beer. Get drunk.
As any gearhead will tell you..
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... this is the best use of a SAAB I have ever seen.
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Re:As any gearhead will tell you..
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As any true gearhead will tell you, Saabs are superbly engineered cars. I have been working on cars my whole life, and I haven't had any car that will still run as good as it did the day it was new except my old 900 with 212,000 miles on it (and it doesn't use a drop of oil!). Saab pioneered the useful turbo, leading the renaissance of the european sport sedan ( more horsepower than any comparable Bimmer or Merc, minus the "M" and AMG versions). There are plenty of cars that i can think of that don't come anywhere near the quality, driveability, and uniqueness of a Saab.
Re:As any gearhead will tell you..
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As any true gearhead will tell you, Saabs are superbly engineered cars. I have been working on cars my whole life, and I haven't had any car that will still run as good as it did the day it was new except my old 900 with 212,000 miles on it (and it doesn't use a drop of oil!). Saab pioneered the useful turbo, leading the renaissance of the european sport sedan ( more horsepower than any comparable Bimmer or Merc, minus the "M" and AMG versions). There are plenty of cars that i can think of that don't come anywhere near the quality, driveability, and uniqueness of a Saab.
OK, plus 10 points to you for using the word Bimmer correctly!:-) (hint to others: beemer is a BMW motorcycle, bimmer is a BMW automobile)
I hope you know my comments were meant in jest. But.... I own two BMWs, an 88 528e, and an 88 M3. I think it can be argued that Bimmers are one of, if not the best engineered cars on the planet. As a car company, BMW is the best of them all, IMO. They have small fun cars, big luxury cars, midsized sedans and coupes, and touring (wagons). On the downside, they do have an SUV. Oh, and they also have high-performance cars. The newest M5 is truly in a class of it's own, and the M cars of yesteryear are still impressive. And you can get all BMWs (save the 7) in a manual transmission. I consider that a huge plus.
And you should know better than to claim that horsepower makes the car. Horsepower is only one small portion of performance. Bimmers don't come with turbos, they don't need it. My 88 M3 came with 198 HP stock, out of a 2.3 litre 4-cyl. Naturally aspirated. And that was back in the late 80s. I think BMW stands alone because they don't make primarily sports cars (Porsche) or luxury cars (Merc). They cover the entire range, and cover it quite well.
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aren't classics, but this is probably the best use I've seen for any SAAB. Why didn't they steam the hot dogs?
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Actually the term classic is used by Saab people...since in 1994 Saab released a new desing of the 900 (until the new 9-3 came out), these were known as GM900's or New Generation 900's...so the old funky body style (like my '87 900) are now referred to as "classic 900's"
This man in a Saab 900 pulls up next to a guy in a Rolls Royce at a stop sign.
Their windows are open and he yells at the guy in the Rolls: "Hey, you got a telephone in that Rolls?"
The guy in the Rolls says, "Yes, of course I do."
"I got one too... see?"
"Uh, huh, yes, that's very nice."
"You got a fax machine?"
"Why, actually, yes, I do."
"I do too! See? It's right here!"
"Uh-huh."
The light is just about to turn green and the guy in the Saab says," So, do you have a double bed in back there?"
And the guy in the Rolls says, "No! Do you?"
"Yep, got my double bed right in back here see?!" The light turns and the man in the Saab takes off.
Well, the guy in the Rolls is not about to be one-upped, so he goes immediately to a customizing shop and orders them to put a double bed in back of his car.
About two weeks later, the job is finally done and he picks up his car and drives all over town looking for the Saab. He finally finds it parked alongside the road so he pulls his Rolls up next to it.
The windows on the Saab are all fogged up and he feels a little awkward about it, but he gets out of his newly modified Rolls and taps on the foggy window of the Saab.
The man in the Saab finally opens the window a crack and peeks out.
The guy in the Rolls says, "Hey. Remember me?"
"Yeah, yeah, I remember you. What's up?"
"Check this out... I got a double bed installed in my Rolls."
And the man in the Saab says, You got me out of the sauna to tell me that?!"
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Hello theguru !
This was a cool (hot!?) joke! *LOL*:-) Can we put this joke on our SAUNAAB page?
Thanks, Magnus Bjork -One of the SAUNAAB constructors
I'm not the original author, I just modified it to be a Saab and a sauna. I think I originally heard it as either a Yugo or Volvo and it was a shower, not a sauna.
I live in SW Virginia (redneck land),
All those rusted out cars in peoples yards......they're saunas. Makes perfect sense now.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
This page reminded me of a joke I read in Readers Digest many moons ago:
A man buys a nice sports car and peels out of the lot. Driving along he comes to a red light, where he's sitting next to another guy in a nice sports car. The first guy leans out his window and says, "Hey, I've got a GPS Map display in here."
The other guy is wholely unimpressed. "Yes, I have one of those."
"Well, I've also got a DVD player and satelight TV."
"I have those as well. But do you have a double bed in the back of yours?"
The man was dumbfounded. Just then the light turned green, and the two cars peeled off. The man went straight back to his dealer.
A couple weeks later he was driving along when he saw the other sports car pulled over along side the road. He pulled behind it and got out. As he approached the other car, he noticed steam rolling out and the windows all fogged up. He knocked on the window. No response. He knocked again and waited. Finally the other driver opened the door, clad only in a towel. The guy said, "Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I got a double bed installed in my car."
The other driver replied, "You got me out of the shower to tell me that?"
You say that like crumpling is a crash is a bad thing.
I'd rather walk away from a totalled, crumpled car that insurance will replace than bounce the back of my head through a window when someone rear-ends me.
Winter Carnival of 1998 at Michigan Technological University... There was some group of kids that turned a station wagon into a Sauna. I remember seeing people sitting in it, getting out, and steaming like a volcano.
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Well that great Saunas are coll and all, but it would be much more impressive if it was tricked out with some ground effects, a large spoiler, and of course wifi. Not to mention if it had an engine in it so you coul saun in fornt of the Arc De Triumph, the Whitehouse, Stone Henge
"I'f a brick didn't know hoow to sit on a wall no more; What would you aks it?" -ODB
This is what you get when you have a high-unemployment rate in the tech business...
3 or 4 years ago, this would have had several million dollars of venture capital behind it!
I haven't looked at the link yet... But how in the hell does a post like this get on /.?
www.superdorf.com
and several sweaty men pour out of the SAAB to change it... not an exactly common sight
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This looks like something you would see at the state fair. At least in Oklahoma anyway ;D
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On this page you will find a little story about some (crazy?) nordic people, an old SAAB 900 Classic 5-door and a common desire to have a sauna. This is not the first sauna in a SAAB, I know of at least one SAAB 96 made into a sauna in Finland. However, this is probably the only sauna built into a Classic 900...
This combines almost everything the stereotypical Scandinavian is known for ... SAAB, sauna ... they're missing a Volvo, but who wants a square, boxy sauna?
Not to mention the "bouncing Swedish funbags" (whatever they are!)
Seriously, though, in an icy-cold climate this takes car-heating to the MAX - kinda like case-modding with l33t h4x0rs. What next from the crazy Nordic fold? I'm almost scared to find out (but I think it'll involve rally-driving saunas)
This sig intentionally left bla... dammit!
Who's got the whiteout?
I don't have a sauna Saab, but I do have a 9-3se that I'm turning in soon (coming off lease) - probably next week.
Were I staying in the country, I would certainly get another one, but in Bermuda they don't have Saabs, only tiny little cars with small engines (even the new Mini is too big there... well, the engine).
I would post this over at saabnet.com, but I have a feeling they have already seen it.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
. . . Don't Come a'knockin!
Get yer mirror here.
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yes we should.
Consensus is good, but informed dictatorship is better
I have blog like everyone else
This site is going to be slashdotted in no time. Did anyone ask these guys if they were ready to handle this?
Switzerland, not sweden. The swedish saabs threw me off.
I have blog like everyone else
Ive always wanted to be able to sit around naked with a bunch of my best male friends and cook big sauasages.. If only I could drive around in my Sauna-mobile too.. wow I'd be the coolest kid in the universe *sarcasam*
Aren't you Mr. Fancypants.
now thats what i'd like to see in my neighbourhood! naked nordic babes in SAAB's
You tried your best, & you failed miserably,
The lesson is:
Never Try
Call the waaaambulance.
In Alabama, you could make a beowulf cluster of these in your front yard...ha..ha....well maybe not SAABs.
To quote:
This is not the first sauna in a SAAB, I know of at least one SAAB 96 made into a sauna in Finland.
Why not fork?
Who wants a sauna, honestly? You might as well just get a car without air conditioning.
Repeal the DMCA!
The Darned Slashdot effect! This one I would have REALLY wanted to see!
the last picture, is that not a bottle of Dom?? Wow, enough money to drink dom in a sauna car.
And as usual, here's my opinion, I think turning a car into a sauna is stupid. Since I have made an ontopic post that has a negative not so funny undertone, I will automatically be troll/flaimbait.
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
Why don't you go stick your head up a cow's ass.
So what if NASA is full of people born in India ?? People born in India are everywhere.. from the director of movie Signs to Sun Microsystems co-founder. Over 20% of Microsoft employees are of Indian Origin. Thousands of doctors and dentists in US and UK are of Indian origin...
Do you know that the president of Pepsi (PepsiCo)was born in India (her name is Indra Nooyi). She is also PepsiCo's chief Financial Officer !!
So ? What's the big deal ?? Agreed that American media always ignores Indians but sooner or later they will accept it..
I did the same thing with a dodge aries, except it was a lot cheaper as all i had to do was drive it around during the summer.
Have Fun!
MONSTER GARAGE!!
Whatever this has to do with tech is beyond me . But the mental image is great . A bunch of sweaty naked queers jammed into a saab . Sick . If this is your lifestyle choice please keep it off slashdot .
There aren't enough women in the tech sector. Come by and sit in a warm place with your sausage in hand? No thanks Sven, 'fraid I gotta double-opt out on that magic tonight..
Don't get me wrong, the vehicle mods are quite cool..
if only they incorporated some of that anti-matter they make at CERN... that would be one efficient sauna.
http://www.eskimo.com/~juha/mobile.html - These things seem to be pretty common, actually...ok, maybe not. But more common than one would most likely expect.
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So now it is possible to organize hot sauna competition anywhere in Europe, for example in Cern.
You'll want to be damn careful you don't touch the ignition key ;)
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
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This Sauna Heated by the Slashdot Effect
..only a matter of time until an ANTI-SAUNABB is built in order to be smashed into the SAUNABB.
- "Hear that?! The percolations are imminent! Cease your ingress!"
It's wierd and all but the woodwork is very nice.
I especially like the roof. For most of us writing
software all day, it's nice to see things crafted
out of steel and wood. Something real, not made
from bits that are on the road to being obsolete
and forgotten as soon as it's built.
I don't think I'd have carpentry skills but I'm considering
getting out of programming and doing something with
atoms. Glassblowing seems like it would be fun and
rewarding. Certainly more fun than declaring my two
millionth variable....
Nice work guys.
we should have a sauna in the space shuttle
Space sauna? Think: a big, hot, wobbly sphere of water. No, wait, that's a space hot tub -- a space sauna would be a zero-g steam cloud. Oh, man, those cockpit windows are gonna fog like a bitch.
You could good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it!
I don't think so...check this
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Slashdot. News for Nerds... and Hics. Stuff that nobody gives a shit about.
Selling software wont make you money, selling a service will.
The bbc journalists are all monkeys--they get paid in bananas.
A name you can trust.
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Experts want to grow new genetically modified varieties but there are fears people won't want GM bananas.
Hell, if these people can make a SAAB sauna, I can't see any problem with a GM banana.
now wonder these fukkers cant get laid; they all drive saabs.
A name you can trust.
In Sweden they sit around in artificial steamy heat indoors then plunge into the Winter cold. In Washington DC we walk around in steamy Summer heat and then plunge into artificial cold.
Actually, there is no reason for most Americans (in the South anyway) to have a complex about not being as tech savvy as Swedes because we already have the artificial cold built into the car, and we can drive them.
If the AC isn't cold enough to give small children headaches and fog up your glasses, it's not cold enough, d#$@% it.
Actually, I'm poking good-natured fun at both cultures here. Frankly, the Summer ice-box mentality here in the US is something that I've come to dislike. Not only does it waste a lot of energy, but I've heard some theories that kidney disease has increased because we don't sweat as much as we used to--all the stuff that used to get sweated out gets taken care of by the kidneys and puts more stress on them. I haven't seen any studies to back that up though.
The hot to cold transition that Swedes practice is something I don't think I could tolerate. I've tried turning the shower nozzle to cold, and I could just feel myself starting to go into shock. I guess if I had been doing it from the time I was a little boy that wouldn't happen.
Do most Swedes dunk in ice-cold water after a sauna, or are there some people who can't tolerate it? I think if I went there, I could handle the nudity part, but then I'd have to pass on the cold water which might actually be more embarrassing if everybody else is doing it.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
guys, gals...trust me - it's 100 C (212F) in a typical sauna. It is way too hot. Been there, tried that. Does not work out. You will fry before you are done.
if you soak ur balls in 120degree water for 45 mins a day for two weeks, u will be sterile for 2 months...u may pick ur own units for the temperature, but i'm thinking u'll figure out the correct ones after trial and error....(hint it needs to be rather warm)
The fools! I don't need a modification on my car to cook food on it!
in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
http://www.molestedcars.com. Jah.
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More here
http://cankar.org/sauna/howto/sauna_sex.html
the possiblities are that:
a) ur jewish
2) ur wife won't let u have a nice car (if u have one)
or d) ur still a virgin and don't know how good pussy feels....
Lapin Kulta is not really that good a beer... Especially when it comes in a tin can. But it's cheap and it's beer. If you want quality, avoid it and buy Czech.
# Imagine a Beowulf cluster...
# In Sovie^H^H^H^H^H Nazi Germany, you don't want a sauna!
# But can it run Linux?
# When Cowboyneal gets one...
a) A lot of steam...
b) An engine hot enough to cook food
I could thing of a couple of other cars that almost come equipped like this anyways... perhaps a kia?
In all seriousness though, what can you do with a trashed out rusty car... other than sticking it in a junkyard to be made into a trash-compacted cube? A sauna sounds like a pretty cool idea... makes me wonder what other things one could do with a car. Perhaps if they had a convertible... a hot-tub?
For some old vehicles which have suffered accidents... you have a body which is slightly mangled (maybe not drivable) but not too bad, and a working engine. The engine can be a power source... a heat source... whatever.
When not moving, many cars can run for hours while using very little gas... many around here become portable entertainment centers (big stereos) for bush parties, etc.
Sooooo... how many people can think of alternate uses for these cars. If it's not too crazy, be inventive, and we've got a lot of ingenious people out there. I've got an old '88 Toyota that still runs quite well, although the body is shite. I might consider donating it if it doesn't sell and somebody can think of something cool for it?
come standard or only in the WTF series? It would be nice to get a pokemon version for my rice-rocket needs
if you don't think I am kidding, I have Honda Steambath for sale.
real men eat tofu hotdogs anyway
Well, you can put a drum inside. Drill two holes on it and plug hoses to the hole. Make sure it won't leak. Then, to simulate the stream, connect the hoses to...
The car's radiator... of course... ;-)
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A BMW is a Yuppie Staff Car. Give me my pickup truck and a gun rack and I am happy. Beside when I hit those BMWs they crumple so darn nice.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - BF
This kicks ass!!!!
yeah, think I'll wait for the model with the swedish masseuse built in
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I left some sprite in the car, and I LIVE IN TEXAS.
yeah, they sure did ignore it...
Give me my pickup truck and a gun rack and I am happy
No doubt. Gotta have some place to hang your level. Love that "Calvin pissing on Ford emblem" decal. Sweet. And that backwards leaning number "3" sticker. Now THAT's class!
that's my idea of fun... a bunch of drunk sweaty men crammed shoulder-to-shoulder in a tiny-ass car munching on sausages :-/
Nuff said
Talk about the ultimate hot-box...
I bet they got some funny looks in the parking lot when they all busted out of the SAAB naked and started whipping each other with larch twigs ;-)
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
It's about time they brought one up Either that or they should start sending monkies up again.
i drive an 86 5.0 GT convertible. that's at least as cool (yeah, not saying much there.)
Well, I'm one of the proud builders. We, who built the SAUNAAB live far, far, far away from the nordic countries. At least almost 2000km (more than 1000 miles) away at least. So, since we miss our saunas soooo much, we just had to build one. The reason for it to end up in a SAAB is that one of the guys own more than 20 SAAB's already and one was up for the scrap yard (as Nordics we usually take care of this, not leaving it for coming generations in the back yard. ;=) ). We kind of thought of it as a cool idea. All work was done late evenings and week ends. No unemployment here... We have to take care of those anti matter particles daytime, you know.
Well, the SAUNA experience in the SAAB is very good. The steam hits you harder in the small volume the SAAB offers than in bigger saunas.
Anyone nearby Geneva is welcome to have a look. ;=) //magnus
It reminds me of the sauna-game "Jokka". You take 6 people and a case of vodka, pour the vodka on the sauna - and wait a while. Afterwards someone leaves the sauna and the rest has to guess who!
This game can be played by two players as well, but it requires more vokda!
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Ahhhhh.... Makes me yearn for the days when I was a professor in Finland.
I had a sauna in my apartment, and my students taught me an old Finnish custom - turn the sauna up to about 105 (that's C), and stay in until you can't stand it any more. Then run outside and flop in the snow until you can't stand it any more. Then return to the sauna. Repeat as necessary.
__ Someday, but not this morning, I'll finally learn to use the preview button.
http://tak.tky.hut.fi/liikkuvat/sauna/T-lehti.h
i like it.....I wish i could make one of those
It can, and does, exceed 40 degrees celcius (104 degrees farenheit) almost every year and has been know to climb as high as 47 degrees. In Phoenix (just north of here) it has reached 50 degrees before. I think you can see why airconditioning might be rahter essential. If noithng else, computers will die in that kind of heat.
Hello everyone,
:-)
I am glad to see that most of you like what I and my friends built! It is actually a quite good SAUNA. We wanted a SAUNA and I had an "extra SAAB" available. Add some imagination and there you go...
Have a nice day all!
Cheers,
Magnus
-One of the constructors of the SAUNAAB.
I now think I have a better understand of why Linux came to be. :)
Why when I read this article do pictures of country loving, huge rusty truck obsessed, confederate flag hics come into mind?
Because that's what the fun bits of *any* country are like.
If there are no flames, explosives, lasers, guns, loud music, dangerous agricultural machinery, alcohol or barbecued food involved, you're probably not really having fun. Come to the north-west of Scotland, and we'll show you.
This just confirms that Finnish people are mad. But especially about saunas. I worked in Finland for nearly a year. When I was looking round for a flat to rent, only about half of them had baths, but they all had saunas. One flat even had two saunas.
But then, the offical figures are 1,500,000 saunas in a country of 4,500,000 people, so that's at least one per household.
Where I worked, the main meeting room had a sauna next to it.
You can even get saunas with full video conferencing or internet facilities now, for the executive who always needs to stay in touch (http://www.mediatampere.fi/sauna/).
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Fun to see this car is ok Ok to go in swiss motorway: On the 3td piture from the bottom one ca see the 'stample' on the windshield. This simply says the car's owner has paid the taxes to go on the swiss motorway :-)
:-)
Would be funny to see
... or would that only come in litres?
SAAB = Swedish aerospace incorporated (AB = aktie bolag)
Not that this isn't an accomplishment, but that would really be something to brag about
we'd be accused of being a redneck! :D
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You can laugh without eating a sandwhich, but you can do both if bring one.
...is quite fine.
I didn't know such there were such pretty astronauts. I mean look at Sally Ride!!! ^_^
In this light, I think it's safe to say I'm a shoe-in for the ISS program because I'm so goddamn cute. Please support my campaign: Rei in space in 2004.
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Is it normal to barbecue hot dogs on a sauna? It's a really good idea. I'm hungry.
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aren't classics, but this is probably the best use I've seen for any SAAB. Why didn't they steam the hot dogs?
This man in a Saab 900 pulls up next to a guy in a Rolls Royce at a stop sign.
Their windows are open and he yells at the guy in the Rolls: "Hey, you got a telephone in that Rolls?"
The guy in the Rolls says, "Yes, of course I do."
"I got one too... see?"
"Uh, huh, yes, that's very nice."
"You got a fax machine?"
"Why, actually, yes, I do."
"I do too! See? It's right here!"
"Uh-huh."
The light is just about to turn green and the guy in the Saab says," So, do you have a double bed in back there?"
And the guy in the Rolls says, "No! Do you?"
"Yep, got my double bed right in back here see?!" The light turns and the man in the Saab takes off.
Well, the guy in the Rolls is not about to be one-upped, so he goes immediately to a customizing shop and orders them to put a double bed in back of his car.
About two weeks later, the job is finally done and he picks up his car and drives all over town looking for the Saab. He finally finds it parked alongside the road so he pulls his Rolls up next to it.
The windows on the Saab are all fogged up and he feels a little awkward about it, but he gets out of his newly modified Rolls and taps on the foggy window of the Saab.
The man in the Saab finally opens the window a crack and peeks out.
The guy in the Rolls says, "Hey. Remember me?"
"Yeah, yeah, I remember you. What's up?"
"Check this out... I got a double bed installed in my Rolls."
And the man in the Saab says, You got me out of the sauna to tell me that?!"
I live in SW Virginia (redneck land), All those rusted out cars in peoples yards... ...they're saunas. Makes perfect sense now.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
[Might be redundant, haven't read all the comments.]
Another Finnish project, a sauna in a Volkswagen kleinbus.
The vehicle belongs to the car club of the student union at the Helsinki University of Technology.
The Finnish Sauna Society have some good instructions how the bathing ritual should go. This ritual is as sacred as the church for us Finns. =)
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This page reminded me of a joke I read in Readers Digest many moons ago:
A man buys a nice sports car and peels out of the lot. Driving along he comes to a red light, where he's sitting next to another guy in a nice sports car. The first guy leans out his window and says, "Hey, I've got a GPS Map display in here."
The other guy is wholely unimpressed. "Yes, I have one of those."
"Well, I've also got a DVD player and satelight TV."
"I have those as well. But do you have a double bed in the back of yours?"
The man was dumbfounded. Just then the light turned green, and the two cars peeled off. The man went straight back to his dealer.
A couple weeks later he was driving along when he saw the other sports car pulled over along side the road. He pulled behind it and got out. As he approached the other car, he noticed steam rolling out and the windows all fogged up. He knocked on the window. No response. He knocked again and waited. Finally the other driver opened the door, clad only in a towel. The guy said, "Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I got a double bed installed in my car."
The other driver replied, "You got me out of the shower to tell me that?"
You say that like crumpling is a crash is a bad thing.
I'd rather walk away from a totalled, crumpled car that insurance will replace than bounce the back of my head through a window when someone rear-ends me.
Of course, nothing corners like a pickup.
suggest this to Monster Garage.
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just my 1.5 cents....
-- too cruel for schuel
someone said,"It's like a sauna in here."
"It is NEVER TOO HOT to have sex."
Yeah, but in a sauna, it's not the HEAT, it's the HUMIDITY.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Well, I'm grateful someone got it.
Now, if someone with moderator points would get it...
rear, front.
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Winter Carnival of 1998 at Michigan Technological University... There was some group of kids that turned a station wagon into a Sauna. I remember seeing people sitting in it, getting out, and steaming like a volcano.
You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button.
Did you hear about the yuppie car wreck? It was a real Saab story.
a Vanagon would have been better for this, even if it's not Scandanavian.