Well, for the sake of argument, though, note that when Sealand did declare it's independence, it was, at that time, outside of British territorial waters.
The United States can't just announce one day that's it's extending its waters and now gets Cuba.
In fact,there is at least one case decided before the British courts that did uphold the independence of Sealand.
For more information look up some of the previous stories about HavenCo and Sealand on/.
It fails on fisher not because of the kernel, but because of the broken version of RPM that is shipped with fisher (and with Nautilus PR3). There are several other posts about this in this article, or you can read up for more information at rpm-list@redhat.com or red-carpet@ximian.com.
Basically your package database is corrupted by using by using RPM 4.0.2, and the corruption causes clients like Red Carpet, up2date, etc to crash.
We're talking to Jeff Johnson, the RPM maintainer, to come up with a solution as quickly as possible.
Freedom of speech is protected, but it is legal to place limits on time, place, etc. By limiting local radio stations, Congress has not stopped you from saying anything. They've merely restricted the mechanism that you use to say it.
Have you used LaTeX before? Your description of it defines exactly what LaTeX is not.
For those who don't know, LaTeX lets you define structured documents, and then you apply a style across the entire document which then defines how it appears. Yes, this technology has been around for a lot longer than HTML, CSS, blah blah blah.
For example, by writing a document with sections, chapters, references, etc etc, depending on what style I choose, I might end up with a table of contents, or not, with an index, or not, with footnotes, or not, etc etc...
(For the record, you are perhaps confusing LaTeX with TeX...)
It doesn't strike you as a major difference that, in one case, we have a fanatic who wants to dominate the world, control all standards, and crush his competition, and on the other, we have a fanatic who wants to tear down the walls of secrecy, give us all the freedom to examine the tools we use, and give everyone, from the richest developers to the poorest college student, the same level of access?
I think by climate, they are referring primarily to temperature and weather condition. The reason this would only be enough to sustain lichens and algae is because of the insufficient oxygen level, which is discussed later.
I think you came down a little hard on/. and the editors here.
You've stumbled across one of the limitations of the current updater system. The current "updates" we ship are represented as a group of packages inside of an xml file. Unfortunately, this means the updater may continue to represent some updates as still being available for your system when you've already installed everything you're interested in from that update.
The new updater we're currently finishing up, Red Carpet, takes care of this calculating full tree dependencies for packages, making it a full package management tool. In addition, we plan to add features to support your type of situation, namely, a single person managing a large number of machines which should be kept in sync.
If you're looking for our files, check out our ftp site (ftp.helixcode.com), which contains packages for all the distributions we support (this is where akamai comes to get them), along with the xml metafiles we use to describe them. If you're not already, subscribe to the updates@helixcode.com mailing list, which is where we post a message any time we push new updates.
I'd also like to ask you to subscribe and contribute to the spidermonkey@helixcode.com list. Getting GNOME onto as many systems as possible is the core of our business model, and we'd always like to hear feedback from our users about how we can make that process easier.
They use a secondary database, other than rpm, to track which packages are installed with the helix-updater.
I'm afraid this just isn't true. The current updater uses the rpm database alone, and the next generation updater we demoed at LWE uses either your rpm database or the/var/lib/dpkg/status file, depending on what type of system you are on.
If you need technical assistance, please send mail to spidermonkey@helixcode.com.
Sigh. Thanks for summing up the opinions of the vocal but immature minority, and providing fodder for the arguments of those who oppose the revolution in media delivery. Those who favor conventional methods will fail, but thanks to people like you, I'll still have to buy my CD's at Best Buy for a rediculous $15 for a while.
I understand where you're coming from, because I've had to use far too many large, bloated programs in the past that attempted to do and be everything for me, and it sucks.
Where Evolution is different is its use of the bonobo component architecture (something that more and more GNOME programs will begin to do). With Evolution, the different features are actually separate components, which communicate only through a well defined interface. If you only use the mail features, and not the calendar and addressbook, those components aren't loaded. However, when you're writing a mail message and need to look up an email address, an address book is a logical place to look, and a component architecture gives the level of integration required to let the two communicate, without forcing bloat onto users.
I won't tell you you're wrong, of course, but there are different ways to view this. In our minds, code reuse is a good thing. So we do take advantage of the different libraries written, and increasingly, the different components available through bonobo.
Unfortunately, we do have to use development libraries from time to time. Evolution is in many ways a test of the basic bonobo architecture, which will be used increasingly in the future. By heavily testing it, we can find flaws in the design, and fix them, before large numbers of applications run into the same problem, and thus produce a better product in the end.
Some of the other libraries, although written with evolution in mind, are useful for other projects (I'm thinking of GtkHtml when I say this). Thus, it makes perfect sense to develop it in parallel, but make it available in a separate package, which allows other application authors to use it during their development, without having to track evolution.
Evolution is far more than just a pretty front end. Evolution is actually a shell which embeds several bonobo components, including including mail, contact management, a calendar, etc. It uses gtkhtml to compose your mail, giving you the choice (not: optional!) to send HTML formatted mail. It has highly advanced filtering, including the vFolder, a psuedo-folder based on a query of your mail (allowing you to create a "folder" with mail that matches certain parameters, gathered from other actual folders you may have).
For more information, please read the website at http://www.helixcode.com/apps/evolution.php3
Evolution is currently available for Debian from Helix Code (see another message which gives the apt lines), and will be available for the RPM distributions we support within the next few (be lenient on what few means, please!) hours.
I used the nVidia drivers briefly -- every time I came back to my computer, if one of the GL screensavers had triggered, I was without fail back at the gdm login screen, because X had crashed. I envy you your painless experience.
Also, you might try compiling from source and installing into an alternate prefix rather than doing a binary install of XF4 over your Debian system -- if you keep doing that, you'll find you've fubared your system enough that Debian upgrades will stop working...
/me is slightly confused as to why pointing out that emmett (who was recently at LinuxFest 2000) missed the previous posting of the dot matrix symphony is interesting... Personally, I think it's at least redundant (and most accurately, annoying)...
Bowie, please think about how fast you would be trying to move the end of the pole. What is the half-circumference of a circle with a radius of one light-day? The answer to your puzzle lies in the fact that you just can't do it (not the way you've described).
I'm not going to flame you; you're welcome to hold any opinions you want. I'm merely going to point out that RMS was offered significant quantities of Red Hat stock when their IPO happened, and he turned it down, because Red Hat is not completely free software, and he didn't feel right profiting from non-free software. He doesn't really seem out to make money.
Dude, time to take a deep breath, chill, and look at the story again.
They're not implying that this well affect the entire Internet. What they're saying is that, were Sims a multiplayer game, the potential would exist for the virus (that kills characters in the game) to spread from character to character.
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Well, for the sake of argument, though, note that when Sealand did declare it's independence, it was, at that time, outside of British territorial waters.
/.
The United States can't just announce one day that's it's extending its waters and now gets Cuba.
In fact,there is at least one case decided before the British courts that did uphold the independence of Sealand.
For more information look up some of the previous stories about HavenCo and Sealand on
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Ian Peters
It fails on fisher not because of the kernel, but because of the broken version of RPM that is shipped with fisher (and with Nautilus PR3). There are several other posts about this in this article, or you can read up for more information at rpm-list@redhat.com or red-carpet@ximian.com.
Basically your package database is corrupted by using by using RPM 4.0.2, and the corruption causes clients like Red Carpet, up2date, etc to crash.
We're talking to Jeff Johnson, the RPM maintainer, to come up with a solution as quickly as possible.
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Ian Peters
Heh, your theory dovetails nicely with the fact that my business cards all read:
Ian Peters
Infinite Monkey
Just to add fuel to the fire...
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Ian Peters
Miguel and John Hall are in it.
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Ian Peters
Freedom of speech is protected, but it is legal to place limits on time, place, etc. By limiting local radio stations, Congress has not stopped you from saying anything. They've merely restricted the mechanism that you use to say it.
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Ian Peters
Have you used LaTeX before? Your description of it defines exactly what LaTeX is not.
For those who don't know, LaTeX lets you define structured documents, and then you apply a style across the entire document which then defines how it appears. Yes, this technology has been around for a lot longer than HTML, CSS, blah blah blah.
For example, by writing a document with sections, chapters, references, etc etc, depending on what style I choose, I might end up with a table of contents, or not, with an index, or not, with footnotes, or not, etc etc...
(For the record, you are perhaps confusing LaTeX with TeX...)
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Ian Peters
It doesn't strike you as a major difference that, in one case, we have a fanatic who wants to dominate the world, control all standards, and crush his competition, and on the other, we have a fanatic who wants to tear down the walls of secrecy, give us all the freedom to examine the tools we use, and give everyone, from the richest developers to the poorest college student, the same level of access?
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Ian Peters
I think by climate, they are referring primarily to temperature and weather condition. The reason this would only be enough to sustain lichens and algae is because of the insufficient oxygen level, which is discussed later.
/. and the editors here.
I think you came down a little hard on
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Ian Peters
I still haven't managed to figure out what the differences are between: /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin
/usr/sbin, /usr/local/sbin
/usr because /usr might be on a different partition/disc
/bin,
/sbin,
/bin: stuff essential for system booting (can't be on
/usr/bin: normal binaries
/usr/local/bin: non-distribution binaries (aka non-RPM, non-DEB, etc etc)
/sbin: system binaries (not supposed to be on the average users path), needed for booting
/usr/sbin: system binaries (not supposed to be on the average users path)
/usr/local/sbin: system binaries, not installed via the package manager
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Ian Peters
You've stumbled across one of the limitations of the current updater system. The current "updates" we ship are represented as a group of packages inside of an xml file. Unfortunately, this means the updater may continue to represent some updates as still being available for your system when you've already installed everything you're interested in from that update.
The new updater we're currently finishing up, Red Carpet, takes care of this calculating full tree dependencies for packages, making it a full package management tool. In addition, we plan to add features to support your type of situation, namely, a single person managing a large number of machines which should be kept in sync.
If you're looking for our files, check out our ftp site (ftp.helixcode.com), which contains packages for all the distributions we support (this is where akamai comes to get them), along with the xml metafiles we use to describe them. If you're not already, subscribe to the updates@helixcode.com mailing list, which is where we post a message any time we push new updates.
I'd also like to ask you to subscribe and contribute to the spidermonkey@helixcode.com list. Getting GNOME onto as many systems as possible is the core of our business model, and we'd always like to hear feedback from our users about how we can make that process easier.
--
Ian Peters
They use a secondary database, other than rpm, to track which packages are installed with the helix-updater.
/var/lib/dpkg/status file, depending on what type of system you are on.
I'm afraid this just isn't true. The current updater uses the rpm database alone, and the next generation updater we demoed at LWE uses either your rpm database or the
If you need technical assistance, please send mail to spidermonkey@helixcode.com.
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Ian Peters
I heard little about Miguel prior to 3 years ago which leads me to believe that he has never really worked with too many UNIX systems.
/usr/src/linux
:)
Do me a favor. Go to a shell and try this:
$ cd
$ find . -name '*.[ch]' | xargs grep Miguel
Take a long hard look at what you see. Then think about your statement.
Perhaps you should let Miguel know about some of your concerns. You can easily reach him at miguel@kernel.org. Or miguel@gnu.org.
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Ian Peters
Sigh. Thanks for summing up the opinions of the vocal but immature minority, and providing fodder for the arguments of those who oppose the revolution in media delivery. Those who favor conventional methods will fail, but thanks to people like you, I'll still have to buy my CD's at Best Buy for a rediculous $15 for a while.
--
Ian Peters
Good programs do one thing and do it well.
I understand where you're coming from, because I've had to use far too many large, bloated programs in the past that attempted to do and be everything for me, and it sucks.
Where Evolution is different is its use of the bonobo component architecture (something that more and more GNOME programs will begin to do). With Evolution, the different features are actually separate components, which communicate only through a well defined interface. If you only use the mail features, and not the calendar and addressbook, those components aren't loaded. However, when you're writing a mail message and need to look up an email address, an address book is a logical place to look, and a component architecture gives the level of integration required to let the two communicate, without forcing bloat onto users.
--
Ian Peters
I won't tell you you're wrong, of course, but there are different ways to view this. In our minds, code reuse is a good thing. So we do take advantage of the different libraries written, and increasingly, the different components available through bonobo.
Unfortunately, we do have to use development libraries from time to time. Evolution is in many ways a test of the basic bonobo architecture, which will be used increasingly in the future. By heavily testing it, we can find flaws in the design, and fix them, before large numbers of applications run into the same problem, and thus produce a better product in the end.
Some of the other libraries, although written with evolution in mind, are useful for other projects (I'm thinking of GtkHtml when I say this). Thus, it makes perfect sense to develop it in parallel, but make it available in a separate package, which allows other application authors to use it during their development, without having to track evolution.
--
Ian Peters
Evolution is far more than just a pretty front end. Evolution is actually a shell which embeds several bonobo components, including including mail, contact management, a calendar, etc. It uses gtkhtml to compose your mail, giving you the choice (not: optional!) to send HTML formatted mail. It has highly advanced filtering, including the vFolder, a psuedo-folder based on a query of your mail (allowing you to create a "folder" with mail that matches certain parameters, gathered from other actual folders you may have).
For more information, please read the website at http://www.helixcode.com/apps/evolution.php3
--
Ian Peters
Evolution is currently available for Debian from Helix Code (see another message which gives the apt lines), and will be available for the RPM distributions we support within the next few (be lenient on what few means, please!) hours.
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Ian Peters
Evolution stores mail in any of a large number of ways, including as Unix mbox files.
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Ian Peters
I used the nVidia drivers briefly -- every time I came back to my computer, if one of the GL screensavers had triggered, I was without fail back at the gdm login screen, because X had crashed. I envy you your painless experience.
Also, you might try compiling from source and installing into an alternate prefix rather than doing a binary install of XF4 over your Debian system -- if you keep doing that, you'll find you've fubared your system enough that Debian upgrades will stop working...
--
Ian Peters
/me is slightly confused as to why pointing out that emmett (who was recently at LinuxFest 2000) missed the previous posting of the dot matrix symphony is interesting... Personally, I think it's at least redundant (and most accurately, annoying)...
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Ian Peters
You're aware that, beyond not having read the book, you're not even talking about the same kind of Virtual War, right?
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Ian Peters
You now turn in a complete circle in one spot.
Bowie, please think about how fast you would be trying to move the end of the pole. What is the half-circumference of a circle with a radius of one light-day? The answer to your puzzle lies in the fact that you just can't do it (not the way you've described).
--
Ian Peters
I'm not going to flame you; you're welcome to hold any opinions you want. I'm merely going to point out that RMS was offered significant quantities of Red Hat stock when their IPO happened, and he turned it down, because Red Hat is not completely free software, and he didn't feel right profiting from non-free software. He doesn't really seem out to make money.
--
Ian Peters
Dude, time to take a deep breath, chill, and look at the story again.
They're not implying that this well affect the entire Internet. What they're saying is that, were Sims a multiplayer game, the potential would exist for the virus (that kills characters in the game) to spread from character to character.
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Ian Peters
Yes, it sounds better.
...vs. this format's 128 kbps limit...
Sigh. Per channel. 128 kbps per channel.
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Ian Peters