A web professional I know once printed the following sentence on orange cards he handed out anytime a customer tried to "improve" his work:
Some people buy a dog but keep on barking themselves
You, a "business woman" (altought I might doubt this one), are a managerish type. You have obviously no idea of IT. Let your IT staff decide, they know better (and they might even have the time to distinguish "free" and "free" for you). If you do not have an IT staff, well, bad luck. Ask the 17-year-old guy/gal who comes around and fixes your computer, removes spyware on a regular basis... you have no one who maintenances your system? Get the fuck out of the network - your computer likely is infested and a frequent member of spambot networks.
Be informed that Germany is more than Hitler, the girl that dumped you (= Hitlerish) and crazy engineers that are said to kill small furry things for fuel (= Hitlerish).
Even if Dr. Koch happens to use actual animal bodies for fuel, would you mind if it were bugs, or spiders? Do you know that in Germany it is the law to get your pet dogs'/ cats'body to a "Tierkörperverwertungsanstalt" (roughly translated "Animal corpses processing facility"), where its body is grind up to "Tiermehl" ("Animal wheat") that used to be fed to farm animals before BSE? Now it is burnt for electricity. Yes. that is electricity out of little kitty! BTW, this law is to protect people from diseases of too many corpses laying around.
What would be the problem in not processing animal cadavers to electricity, but to fuel? Facing energy costs that would feel near to insane to you US guys (we are paying 1,50 per litre for fuel), I greatly appreciate using alternative fuel systems. And the cat population tends to grow! No energy problems for the next few centuries.
BTW: Actually Dr. Koch uses garbage for fuel. The claim he used cats is made by a german tabliod that is probably funded by our fellow oil companies. Wrecking ones inventions for profit by false claims that outrage the public idiot is quite common in ye ol'de europe.
This message was typed for your convinience right in the ex-Third Reich.
... this was a german company, with its product named "G-Mail, und die Post geht richtig ab" (roughly translated "G-Mail, and the mail really gets going"). They also tried to sue people selling GMail invitations on eBay. a legal case is open in Germany, and GMail is obliged by a court order not to give @gmail.com-adresses to german users - those ones get @googlemail.com adresses instead [which also work with gmail, but this is not yet well-documented.])
The fact that the british and the german trademarks are so similar to each other makes me think... does anyone know if there are connections between those companies?
The legend of the brave Dutch boy - by others thought to be named Hans Brinker - who supposedly put his finger in the dyke to prevent a flood, was actually a literary invention by the American writer Mary Elizabeth Mapes Dodge (1831-1905), who was born in New York.
Building a city in this terrain was crazy in the beginning. Rebuilding it means playing with the lives of people again. Remember Murphys Law: If something can go wrong, it will. I easily can imagine douzends of things that can go wrong building "better" flood control, starting at a corrupt city/state/federal government.
BTW: After the Storm Flood of 1962 in Hamburg/Germany, some areas are off-limits even today because disease control. How many of the New Orleans area will have to be shut of from the public?
every state document must be in PDF or using Open Office formats' starting in 2007.
Giving up one proprietary format for another is stupid - the end of this will be lots of licences bought in Adobe Acrobat software, with little or no effect for open source.
Just because PDF can be read by virtually everyone, it is not an "open" file format. In fact, PDF is "protected" by several patents and some options are a well-kept secret of Adobe.
I stopped reading at that point. This kind of attitude gave us the glorious Internet Explorer.
BTW: I frequently get "flashy, clicky-colorful, image-tinky-winky" mail^Mspam on my GMail account. I do not know what your problem is. I repeat that I think sticking to widely accepted standards and not being able to produce colored spam with GMail is a feature, not a bug.
So if *I* own a gun, and there is a probability that any of my fellow humans around me also own a gun, but may think they are faster or better using it, how does that make me feel more secure?
OK, so in countries with gun control, $badguy may have a weapon even if he is not allowed to. In nations without gun control (are there any beneath the US of A?), $badguy is allowed to own one. But your neighbor might also have a gun/rifle/whatever, and as soon as your dog is too loud at night, he might snap and start the fire on your house. Probably you are dead sooner than you are able to "defend yourself" with your own weapon. Great security, isn't it?
Somehow this "Get a weapon to protect yourself"-stuff does not appeal to me...
Well, try open-sourcing plans how to build that great stealth long-range super-duper combat-helicopter you designed to the open public. See what comes next... If releasing plans to military hardware is not speech, then what if (even if those plans are put together by evil chinese haxxors that hack US government websites and they come to "visit" Taiwan with them.)
Yes, I think there are and should be a limit to "free speech". Not because I do not believe in freedom, but I because freedom can be destroyed by too much freedom.
Why I cannot understand how having the right to own things that are designed to kill a large quantity of your surroundings is increasing your security (note: I am not a US citizen), I really like to see how creating a spreading a trojan horse increases your network security and defenses.
Well, simple things as the Sober-Worm managed to take out some nations (UK?) coast guard - this could have resulted in lost lives. Those stuff could have hit medical systems in hospitals or lower-security systems in ATC, both which may have resulted in loss of lifes. There really is no real distinction between a bulled design to destroy and code designed to destroy.
There are tools, and there are weapons. A tool like for network testing does exactly this: network testing. Spyware or more specificaly trojans like the one mentioned in the FA, are buiold to spy. Worms are build to destroy or to do other criminal deeds such as - for example - spam or doing DDOS attacks.
I have nothing against tools to create - but I think writing malicious things and releasing them should result in some part of liability for the creator if his/her creation is actually used.
If you create a nuclear weapon, you should not sell it to North Korea. If you create a tank, selling it to Iran surely would not increase your merits in the western societies. If you sell guns to teenagers, you are a criminal and - as far as I am concerned - partly responsible if those teenagers start shooting their classmates.
Why of all things should you not be responsible for creating a software intended for potentially criminal purpose (here: spying on users) and giving it to people who will use it? Following this logic of non-responsibility, worm writers should not be persecuted, because the damage their creations have done was not their immediate fault.
Your information about China is outdated. As is your information on the possibility of US military intervention in an eastern war scenario - the US forces are bound in the middle east, and would not be sufficient to proactively engage to help Taiwan if the PRC decided to "take it back".
One more point: The Chinese always used mere manpower to win battles - and they would do so in a war on Taiwan as well. Taiwan currently owns 150 F-16, so what, if the PRC can easily send ten times that much firepower?
This is like the second "evil yellow little men are trying to haxxor our WOPRs"-story on./ in mere 3 days. Somehow this is like the WMD discussion just before the Iraq war.
Governments and nations spy on each other. The Chinese spy on the US and vice versa, the US spies on practically everyone, the Russians spy on China, and Germany spies on the US. That's the way international politics work when information is essential.
Really, if information retrieval from government webservers and "hacking" are your [US citizens] only problems, you may feel lucky, as there is one great solution: Do not connect mission-critical systems to a network or a subnet virtually everyone has access to.
The convergence of humankind is somewhat analogous to the Federation and Klingons in TNG, although not to the extent that humans are united in the original series.
You think of TOS, don't you?
In Star Trek 4, there is that great scene where Checkov gets caught in 20th century era aircraft carrier (to steal nuclear material. The ship is called 'Enterprise', of course). Being interrogated by two naval intelligence cold warriors, calling himself an UFP citizen, with a straight face, implying that national citizenship does not exist in the TOS universe. I really liked this scene, even if this is somewhat a story gap to TNG, where people of earth still have a kind of "national identity" (see Picard).
GMail users are experiencing problems since friday if their adress consists of non-alphanumerical characters. While emails arrive at joesixpack@gmail.com, they do not arrive at joe.sixpack@gmail.com. Google claims to ignore these characters, and many people have choosen to give their adress to their contacts with points.
Google has not yet responded to bug reports.
I certainly hope this is a temporal problem and emails are not lost.
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Common, seriously ... OP has given a valuable link for this discussion. How is this trollish?
You, a "business woman" (altought I might doubt this one), are a managerish type. You have obviously no idea of IT. Let your IT staff decide, they know better (and they might even have the time to distinguish "free" and "free" for you). If you do not have an IT staff, well, bad luck. Ask the 17-year-old guy/gal who comes around and fixes your computer, removes spyware on a regular basis
You, sir, are a sentimental idiot.
Be informed that Germany is more than Hitler, the girl that dumped you (= Hitlerish) and crazy engineers that are said to kill small furry things for fuel (= Hitlerish).
Even if Dr. Koch happens to use actual animal bodies for fuel, would you mind if it were bugs, or spiders? Do you know that in Germany it is the law to get your pet dogs'/ cats'body to a "Tierkörperverwertungsanstalt" (roughly translated "Animal corpses processing facility"), where its body is grind up to "Tiermehl" ("Animal wheat") that used to be fed to farm animals before BSE? Now it is burnt for electricity. Yes. that is electricity out of little kitty! BTW, this law is to protect people from diseases of too many corpses laying around.
What would be the problem in not processing animal cadavers to electricity, but to fuel? Facing energy costs that would feel near to insane to you US guys (we are paying 1,50 per litre for fuel), I greatly appreciate using alternative fuel systems. And the cat population tends to grow! No energy problems for the next few centuries.
BTW: Actually Dr. Koch uses garbage for fuel. The claim he used cats is made by a german tabliod that is probably funded by our fellow oil companies. Wrecking ones inventions for profit by false claims that outrage the public idiot is quite common in ye ol'de europe.
This message was typed for your convinience right in the ex-Third Reich.
... this was a german company, with its product named "G-Mail, und die Post geht richtig ab" (roughly translated "G-Mail, and the mail really gets going"). They also tried to sue people selling GMail invitations on eBay. a legal case is open in Germany, and GMail is obliged by a court order not to give @gmail.com-adresses to german users - those ones get @googlemail.com adresses instead [which also work with gmail, but this is not yet well-documented.])
The fact that the british and the german trademarks are so similar to each other makes me think... does anyone know if there are connections between those companies?
people think they have never been, but once, the skies were full of them...
Right, Petrosaurs had a better fuel efficiency. They also didn't carry bombs over large distances and were likely not attacked by fighter planes.
From http://members.chello.nl/m.jong9/map12/hansbrinke
no offense intended.
... *not* rebuilding New Orleans.
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Seriously. Abandon the city, do not rebuild it on a terrain that is actually *below* the standard level of both the Mississipi *and* the standard level of that sea of theirs. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:New_Orleans_Le
Building a city in this terrain was crazy in the beginning. Rebuilding it means playing with the lives of people again. Remember Murphys Law: If something can go wrong, it will. I easily can imagine douzends of things that can go wrong building "better" flood control, starting at a corrupt city/state/federal government.
BTW: After the Storm Flood of 1962 in Hamburg/Germany, some areas are off-limits even today because disease control. How many of the New Orleans area will have to be shut of from the public?
Given my memory serves me right: Formular generation and entry. And yes, I see lots of uses for stuff like that in government documents.
Giving up one proprietary format for another is stupid - the end of this will be lots of licences bought in Adobe Acrobat software, with little or no effect for open source.
Just because PDF can be read by virtually everyone, it is not an "open" file format. In fact, PDF is "protected" by several patents and some options are a well-kept secret of Adobe.
Chinese Websites Used As Launchpads For Cracking ... today ...
... got dumped by your Chinese girlfriend?
2005-08-26 The Invasion of The Chinese Cyberspies
Come on, Slashdot editors
I stopped reading at that point. This kind of attitude gave us the glorious Internet Explorer.
BTW: I frequently get "flashy, clicky-colorful, image-tinky-winky" mail^Mspam on my GMail account. I do not know what your problem is. I repeat that I think sticking to widely accepted standards and not being able to produce colored spam with GMail is a feature, not a bug.
This is not a shortcomming, but a feature. Please show me where HTML emails are mentioned in RFC822
So if *I* own a gun, and there is a probability that any of my fellow humans around me also own a gun, but may think they are faster or better using it, how does that make me feel more secure?
OK, so in countries with gun control, $badguy may have a weapon even if he is not allowed to. In nations without gun control (are there any beneath the US of A?), $badguy is allowed to own one. But your neighbor might also have a gun/rifle/whatever, and as soon as your dog is too loud at night, he might snap and start the fire on your house. Probably you are dead sooner than you are able to "defend yourself" with your own weapon. Great security, isn't it?
Somehow this "Get a weapon to protect yourself"-stuff does not appeal to me...
Well, try open-sourcing plans how to build that great stealth long-range super-duper combat-helicopter you designed to the open public. See what comes next... If releasing plans to military hardware is not speech, then what if (even if those plans are put together by evil chinese haxxors that hack US government websites and they come to "visit" Taiwan with them.)
Yes, I think there are and should be a limit to "free speech". Not because I do not believe in freedom, but I because freedom can be destroyed by too much freedom.
Please enlighten me: How can a software as described in the article be used beneath for spying?
Why I cannot understand how having the right to own things that are designed to kill a large quantity of your surroundings is increasing your security (note: I am not a US citizen), I really like to see how creating a spreading a trojan horse increases your network security and defenses.
Well, simple things as the Sober-Worm managed to take out some nations (UK?) coast guard - this could have resulted in lost lives. Those stuff could have hit medical systems in hospitals or lower-security systems in ATC, both which may have resulted in loss of lifes. There really is no real distinction between a bulled design to destroy and code designed to destroy.
You've missed my point.
There are tools, and there are weapons. A tool like for network testing does exactly this: network testing. Spyware or more specificaly trojans like the one mentioned in the FA, are buiold to spy. Worms are build to destroy or to do other criminal deeds such as - for example - spam or doing DDOS attacks.
I have nothing against tools to create - but I think writing malicious things and releasing them should result in some part of liability for the creator if his/her creation is actually used.
If you create a nuclear weapon, you should not sell it to North Korea. If you create a tank, selling it to Iran surely would not increase your merits in the western societies. If you sell guns to teenagers, you are a criminal and - as far as I am concerned - partly responsible if those teenagers start shooting their classmates.
Why of all things should you not be responsible for creating a software intended for potentially criminal purpose (here: spying on users) and giving it to people who will use it? Following this logic of non-responsibility, worm writers should not be persecuted, because the damage their creations have done was not their immediate fault.
Your information about China is outdated. As is your information on the possibility of US military intervention in an eastern war scenario - the US forces are bound in the middle east, and would not be sufficient to proactively engage to help Taiwan if the PRC decided to "take it back".
One more point: The Chinese always used mere manpower to win battles - and they would do so in a war on Taiwan as well. Taiwan currently owns 150 F-16, so what, if the PRC can easily send ten times that much firepower?
This is like the second "evil yellow little men are trying to haxxor our WOPRs"-story on ./ in mere 3 days. Somehow this is like the WMD discussion just before the Iraq war.
Governments and nations spy on each other. The Chinese spy on the US and vice versa, the US spies on practically everyone, the Russians spy on China, and Germany spies on the US. That's the way international politics work when information is essential.
Really, if information retrieval from government webservers and "hacking" are your [US citizens] only problems, you may feel lucky, as there is one great solution: Do not connect mission-critical systems to a network or a subnet virtually everyone has access to.
You think of TOS, don't you?
In Star Trek 4, there is that great scene where Checkov gets caught in 20th century era aircraft carrier (to steal nuclear material. The ship is called 'Enterprise', of course). Being interrogated by two naval intelligence cold warriors, calling himself an UFP citizen, with a straight face, implying that national citizenship does not exist in the TOS universe. I really liked this scene, even if this is somewhat a story gap to TNG, where people of earth still have a kind of "national identity" (see Picard).
I've said this for about 7-10 years now ...
If you wanna play games, go get a console. Computers are for serious work.
Besides, Solitaire runs just fine under Wine, not speaking of the countless clones.
GMail users are experiencing problems since friday if their adress consists of non-alphanumerical characters. While emails arrive at joesixpack@gmail.com, they do not arrive at joe.sixpack@gmail.com. Google claims to ignore these characters, and many people have choosen to give their adress to their contacts with points.
Google has not yet responded to bug reports.
I certainly hope this is a temporal problem and emails are not lost.