And I don't think they have the same level of problems with industrial action because the employees don't like the latest colour scheme in the toilets!!!
My experience in the Power Industry (high voltage power transmission and related electric infrastructure stuff) is that the engineers are superb.Individual work at least as good as the UK staff I worked with.
What was lacking was good procedures and best practice working methods, along with overall project management. Once those started to be in place the products started to be as good too.
To put it in context look around you and grade the dedication and motivation of yourself and your coworkers. If it is less than 9/10 you will rapidly be at risk from over seas. They are as clever, they are as well educated (maybe better because of the dedication) and they are much more motivated and dedicated.
It is the way you describe it. It has levels of membership. Associate (whiner), proper (has a go) and full (spends the time to learn some useful skills for the club and provides their time to improve it).
Let's face it no club wants large numbers of people who don't do anything.
The reality is of course more complex because people contribute in lots of other ways with regard to the whole society (all projects rather than a particular one). Be it money, introducing friends to it (some of whom become the best kinds of members) and so on.
The ones who do more are simply worth more than anyone else. They are also more important because without them the projects just would not exist they are the sorts who actually do work in creating these things rather than just using them.
It just depends on the contect of "important" really. You might consider Bob The Anchor of the Universe quite important if the Universe could not exist without him also existing and hence without Bob no one else could exist!
I see no problem with the number of movements. It's rather refreshing I think to see so many people acting upon their freedom by choosing to actively participate in something that they find of sufficient interest.
It's even more refreshing those who stay with projects for the long haul to make it something solid.
It's also refreshing as far as capitalism goes to see those with the dedication and insight to take these things that are solid and make some money from them.
I would also say that there is an obvious high level of communication going on all around the world relating to OSS. It seems more and more people are starting to turn to it. They must have heard about it somewhere. From personal experience it also seems people I describe the situation to and why they should care do actually listen. They from time to time tell me about some party or dinner they were at where they argued some of the views from conversations with me and felt they had great effect.
In fact under that argument you could say as they are the experts if they have the same notice as the exploiters they have the advantage. Who knows the system best? You expect they do!
I accept that the fix might be more difficult than the exploit and then there is the second race can you get your exploit out faster than the patch spreads?
Not just the stereo. Most of the components exchange (trivially) encrypted keys at regular intervals as part of the immobilisation. And I suspect to make it hard to fit pattern parts in place of the makers own.
Since the garage door case with DCMA though I suspect stopping people reverse engineering to make cheap alternatives won't stand in the USA.
I work in the automotive industry. No one has I know has ever heard it even contemplated to run important systems on Windows products.
The main reason being you want a real small real time kernel tucked in there for the engine controller, ABS, stability control, traction control, gear box.
All those systems are normally kept on a seperate network for traffic to from any telematics (industry BS word for the nav, steroe, DVD, phone, climate etc...). If they do use the big optical network it is through a gate way that is written to safety critical standards. Of course not every writer of safety critical or safety related software meets what I would consider adequate standards.
They could have ssh'd foolishly from some one elses account on an insecure machine that was already rooted with all ssh use being logged. From what I read earlier about suckit that would fit.
Goes to prove the security phrase "only as secure as the weakest link in the chain" if that did happen.
Someone could have typed the password in at the wrong time so it was sent unencrypted. Then someone watching and waiting patiently sees it and deduces it is a password. I've type passwords in at the wrong time before.
Hence even if the system was otherwise totally secure accidents happen. A bit like driving safely but someone stepping out from behind a van at the very last second. One careless moment is all it takes.
I thought it was good and interesting. The effects were better than in 2 aswell.I suggest you shut up damning things you didn't even see or see it and get your own opinion.
That said there is a big difference in Rings v Star Wars (and others). The prequals in SW are a cash in bonanza. Rings is a work of devotion to render the books well (perhaps with some sell out to put more of the women in rather than sticking to the plot, plus the real money is probably made of the multitude of versions that will apear on DVD. So they can afford to be good at the cinema). The Matrix falls somewhere more in the middle. It has something to present but then big films are about making big money. So to get financing you have to sell out I guess.
In fact getting grumpy about it. Music is a sell out for cash, novels are a sell out for cash. What isn't. So much for culture. Even art and sport are all sell outs for cash. Any news story you hear or see almost always adresses how much it will cost or how much it is worth.
Enough computing power is the right amount to do the job require.
Yes it's a statement of the obvious but I'm amongst what I suspect is the majority that loves the idea of having a multi 64 bit CPU as soon as I have spare cash.
I don't need that amount of power. The reality is my 700 Duron is still adequate though not totally adequate.
It appears to me that people are mistakenly thinking that fair use is not necessarily legal use. Over looking that fair use is use with in the law and that the removal of fair use is actually a reduction in their legal freedoms.
It would seem and I think I may have also fallen into the trap that we think of fair use as being a blurred area outside the law that people get away with.
On the other hand if SCO some how connected him to terrorism the USA would have no qualms about abducting him like it has people in Pakistan, Bosnia and some African nations.
So will that be SCO's next move? Lets face it, if Alan spoke in Welsh he could be in jeopardy...
You already (in the UK) get some limited instances of multiple voting where people stroll into the polling station and claim to be person X. Often person X was actually already dead. It's in most cases only noise but in a marginal seat where an extra 20 votes might on rare occassions suffice it can be a problem.
My thought with the barcodes in context was you wander into a polling station and it's just like having your name crossed off the voting list. Ideally done with an unconnected box so that vote to person can not be correlated to preserve blind voting. Besides it was just a minor notion.
The important thing was if you built a system that basically just replaced the current system it, including ticking off voters from the list as they turn up to vote, it is a very simple system
But I didn't make that clear sorry.
You'd need sealed units with inspectable software on so that you can verify the software equivalent of someone replacing the ballot box contents between the polling station and the counting station didn't occur. And also so that such simple tricks as a couple of lines of code that automatically shift every 3rd vote for X to Y aren't included.
The whole principle in Britain of the policement standing watching the ballot, as I understand it, is to watch for things like Freddy Evil Dictator strolling in and stuffing 20000 slips in the box with votes for him on.
But ultimately all those things are a matter of why the requirements should be published.
How difficult is it to write a system that takes a input selection, submits it to the count and resets ready to take the next vote?
What is the ridiculuous complexity making these things so easy to fcuk up?
Combine it perhaps with a bar code scanner so that every individual can have a street bar code. Add a few simple checks like no more bar codes are counted for a paricular street than were issued.
I still don't see where this becomes a complex task compared to existing systems. Most of the components needed to build a system already existing.
Some one please tell me what I am missing.
As for the open source/free software issue. Perhaps the solution is that the requirements for the system should be published so that anyone can right something to conform. (Oh that's like having open standards).
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Because the end user is the developer in most Open Source cases.
Engineers design it in their spare time.
People put up the CPU time to model the designs and missions.
The community writes the control software.
Where do we start? I suggest we work on a cheap, re-usable sub-orbital shuttle (never did know what sub-orbital meant, I suppose I should look it up).
And I don't think they have the same level of problems with industrial action because the employees don't like the latest colour scheme in the toilets!!!
What was lacking was good procedures and best practice working methods, along with overall project management. Once those started to be in place the products started to be as good too.
To put it in context look around you and grade the dedication and motivation of yourself and your coworkers. If it is less than 9/10 you will rapidly be at risk from over seas. They are as clever, they are as well educated (maybe better because of the dedication) and they are much more motivated and dedicated.
Let's face it no club wants large numbers of people who don't do anything.
The reality is of course more complex because people contribute in lots of other ways with regard to the whole society (all projects rather than a particular one). Be it money, introducing friends to it (some of whom become the best kinds of members) and so on.
The ones who do more are simply worth more than anyone else. They are also more important because without them the projects just would not exist they are the sorts who actually do work in creating these things rather than just using them.
It just depends on the contect of "important" really. You might consider Bob The Anchor of the Universe quite important if the Universe could not exist without him also existing and hence without Bob no one else could exist!
It's even more refreshing those who stay with projects for the long haul to make it something solid.
It's also refreshing as far as capitalism goes to see those with the dedication and insight to take these things that are solid and make some money from them.
I would also say that there is an obvious high level of communication going on all around the world relating to OSS. It seems more and more people are starting to turn to it. They must have heard about it somewhere. From personal experience it also seems people I describe the situation to and why they should care do actually listen. They from time to time tell me about some party or dinner they were at where they argued some of the views from conversations with me and felt they had great effect.
Do you mean on Linux (hosting tools) or for Linux (as target)?
Do you mean as a development host platform?
I accept that the fix might be more difficult than the exploit and then there is the second race can you get your exploit out faster than the patch spreads?
Besides what does he care 200 million of his mates over the next few years won't be using IE!
Since the garage door case with DCMA though I suspect stopping people reverse engineering to make cheap alternatives won't stand in the USA.
The main reason being you want a real small real time kernel tucked in there for the engine controller, ABS, stability control, traction control, gear box.
All those systems are normally kept on a seperate network for traffic to from any telematics (industry BS word for the nav, steroe, DVD, phone, climate etc...). If they do use the big optical network it is through a gate way that is written to safety critical standards. Of course not every writer of safety critical or safety related software meets what I would consider adequate standards.
Here's why
You go in through the easiest system you can that has people that use the target or use something that is a step on the way to the target.
Once you have the ability to use suckit or other ways to compromise SSH on any machine you hace access to the next machine along.
Eventually if you are quiet and patient you will get somewhere interesting.
So who is secure?
Goes to prove the security phrase "only as secure as the weakest link in the chain" if that did happen.
I don't know how long a bar code can be but if you are in need of a longer password you can always require multiple codes.
Yes people can steal your phone but at least that can be protected by a simple PIN that can't be sniffed.
Of course your phone may be insecure if it has Bluetooth:-)
Hence even if the system was otherwise totally secure accidents happen. A bit like driving safely but someone stepping out from behind a van at the very last second. One careless moment is all it takes.
That said there is a big difference in Rings v Star Wars (and others). The prequals in SW are a cash in bonanza. Rings is a work of devotion to render the books well (perhaps with some sell out to put more of the women in rather than sticking to the plot, plus the real money is probably made of the multitude of versions that will apear on DVD. So they can afford to be good at the cinema). The Matrix falls somewhere more in the middle. It has something to present but then big films are about making big money. So to get financing you have to sell out I guess.
In fact getting grumpy about it. Music is a sell out for cash, novels are a sell out for cash. What isn't. So much for culture. Even art and sport are all sell outs for cash. Any news story you hear or see almost always adresses how much it will cost or how much it is worth.
And soon to hit the market are the sanitized "multi-spectrum crayon hue alteration set"
Yes it's a statement of the obvious but I'm amongst what I suspect is the majority that loves the idea of having a multi 64 bit CPU as soon as I have spare cash.
I don't need that amount of power. The reality is my 700 Duron is still adequate though not totally adequate.
It would seem and I think I may have also fallen into the trap that we think of fair use as being a blurred area outside the law that people get away with.
So will that be SCO's next move? Lets face it, if Alan spoke in Welsh he could be in jeopardy...
But hopefully I can forget it long enough to enjoy it.
My thought with the barcodes in context was you wander into a polling station and it's just like having your name crossed off the voting list. Ideally done with an unconnected box so that vote to person can not be correlated to preserve blind voting. Besides it was just a minor notion.
The important thing was if you built a system that basically just replaced the current system it, including ticking off voters from the list as they turn up to vote, it is a very simple system
But I didn't make that clear sorry.
You'd need sealed units with inspectable software on so that you can verify the software equivalent of someone replacing the ballot box contents between the polling station and the counting station didn't occur. And also so that such simple tricks as a couple of lines of code that automatically shift every 3rd vote for X to Y aren't included.
The whole principle in Britain of the policement standing watching the ballot, as I understand it, is to watch for things like Freddy Evil Dictator strolling in and stuffing 20000 slips in the box with votes for him on.
But ultimately all those things are a matter of why the requirements should be published.
What is the ridiculuous complexity making these things so easy to fcuk up?
Combine it perhaps with a bar code scanner so that every individual can have a street bar code. Add a few simple checks like no more bar codes are counted for a paricular street than were issued.
I still don't see where this becomes a complex task compared to existing systems. Most of the components needed to build a system already existing.
Some one please tell me what I am missing.
As for the open source/free software issue. Perhaps the solution is that the requirements for the system should be published so that anyone can right something to conform. (Oh that's like having open standards).
Don't be offended if I suggest you don't enter;-)