I know I'll get modded as flame-bait but I'm gonna play devil's advocate. It get s real boring hearing some of the zealots on this site that are apparently independently wealthy enough where they can afford to be out of work due to their beliefs
Last time I checked, my principles never paid the bills or put food on the table to feed my family. But thanks for basically equating me to a whore because I want to provide for my family. Do you want to pay medical bills for two kids that have chronic illnesses? Pay my mortgage? Have gifts under the tree for my kids? Seeing my family happy is about the only fscking thing I have nowadays.
I just made the same suggestion to my neighbor who just wired up his house for a home network of 5 PCs. You can get a switch/router with DHCP service, NAT, firewall services for under $25 bucks nowadays. One of the reps in CompUSA told him he would need to purchase a copy of Norton for every PC in his house to make sure his network is secure. fscking asshole
Unfortunately, VoIP is coming and it IS going to become the predominant form of residential/business communications.
What people seem to forget is that by doing so, we've just made the internet a very large utility like the phone company. Subject to regulations, taxes.
I can just see it now....a Universal Service Fee tagged on to my bill to make sure everyone has broadband access to their home.
Vonage has already had issues with dropped calls because their voice traffic is going over "The Internet". AT&T is claiming their VoIP calls will be routed over a separate data network...I'd link to the original AT&T article but it was on NYTIMES (reg req'd). I have VoIP at home through unstablevision (Optimum Voice) and it's been working very well for me.
you forgot that would be a violation of DMCA. go to jail. goodbye.
This is getting fscking assinine. Didn't we go through this nonsense with the advent of VHS/BETA?
Do you think the advent of that technology really crushed an industry? I think not. I'm just ranting but I'm getting really tired of these blow-hards whining that they need copy-protection. Half the crap that they market is garbage anyway.
So I ask: what makes voice data so high and mighty that it needs such a high level of reliability
If I have to make a 911 call over that VoIP circuit, I wouldn't want any dropped packets (read QoS)
I sense a little frustration......just kidding.
Unfortunately, the "compatibility" issues you're speaking of are the result of many different players in the VoIP arena adding "extra value" to otherwise open protocols (H.323, SIP) to get you on their service. Hopefully once VoIP gains more credibility, you're issues will become moot.
SIP is an open protocol and Skype is using existing VoIP protocols (SIP, H.323?) and then "embracing and extending" them with extra functionality (read: proprietary extensions). Sound familiar? I'd back the provider using the open, documented protocols....
"Many of the arguments in the lawsuit and some of its language echoed a report issued by computer security experts in late September, which warned that the ubiquitous reach of Microsoft's software on desktops worldwide had made computer networks a national security risk." @Stake, are you listening?
Lets say I own a phone company and one of my customers is a telemarketing agency. My customer (the telemarketer), would tell me that they need a feature that would prevent them from completing a phone call to someone who is on a do not call list. I would set up the telemarketer's phone service so that every time they made a call, my switch would query a database containing the numbers which are registered on a do-not-call list. If the called number appears on the list, the telemarketer would hear an announcement stating that the "number you have reached does not accept telemarketing calls". Point is, I don't think the telemarketers themselves have a physical hard-copy of the list. It would be really cumbersome and inefficient because the DNC list would be changing constantly. The telemarketers are still making "cold-calls" but they don't have to worry about completing a call to a DNC listed number. If the service fails, the telemarketer could claim immunity from any penalties (legal/monetary) because his/her telephone provider is supposed to keep him/her in check. Hope that clarifies how this works.......
my point exactly...but you beat me to the post. Contributing code isn't the only way to contribute to the linux kernel. People forget that many linux distributor's are employing the top kernel hackers so they can feed their families and contribute code on their own time...
Reminds me of a bit from George Carlin that went something like this
It doesn't take a fscking village to raise a child. It takes a mother and a father.
It seems that the record companies may already be addressing the "compact Disc Logo" issue on some CD's. I just looked at the inside tray of my Police CD (The Very Best of....Sting & The Police 2002 A&M Records) and noticed that no where on the case do I see the CD Logo authorized by Phillips red book standard. If you look at the tray that the disc sits on, you see the rectangle shapes on the upper right and lower left corners but no Compact Disc Logo. This is probably old news for many of you, but I've been trying to pick out the copy protected CD's in my own collection but have found nothing conspicuous until now. BTW it still plays in all my stereos and two PCs.....
I believe the "offensive CD" was a reference to the music on the website. I consider myself pretty open-minded when it comes to music but that was just painful to listen to. I think I'll go and cleanse my palatte(sp?) now by listening to the soundtrack of Glitter.
Thanks for the eloquent post. You should have been modded at +5 under-rated as well. That's a point that I tried to make previously but I usually get modded down as a troll.
I should have clarified myself.....Can SCO enforce a blanket license covering the kernel and everything else that makes it a complete operating system? As far as I can tell, SCO's beef is only with the kernel (2.4.0 and later).
If you look at the license it's still referring to the 'linux operating system'
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Don't jog with a $1000+ laptop. I think he said a powerbook......so it was a $2500 laptop
I know I'll get modded as flame-bait but I'm gonna play devil's advocate. It get s real boring hearing some of the zealots on this site that are apparently independently wealthy enough where they can afford to be out of work due to their beliefs Last time I checked, my principles never paid the bills or put food on the table to feed my family. But thanks for basically equating me to a whore because I want to provide for my family. Do you want to pay medical bills for two kids that have chronic illnesses? Pay my mortgage? Have gifts under the tree for my kids? Seeing my family happy is about the only fscking thing I have nowadays.
I just made the same suggestion to my neighbor who just wired up his house for a home network of 5 PCs. You can get a switch/router with DHCP service, NAT, firewall services for under $25 bucks nowadays. One of the reps in CompUSA told him he would need to purchase a copy of Norton for every PC in his house to make sure his network is secure. fscking asshole
Unfortunately, VoIP is coming and it IS going to become the predominant form of residential/business communications. What people seem to forget is that by doing so, we've just made the internet a very large utility like the phone company. Subject to regulations, taxes. I can just see it now....a Universal Service Fee tagged on to my bill to make sure everyone has broadband access to their home.
Vonage has already had issues with dropped calls because their voice traffic is going over "The Internet". AT&T is claiming their VoIP calls will be routed over a separate data network...I'd link to the original AT&T article but it was on NYTIMES (reg req'd). I have VoIP at home through unstablevision (Optimum Voice) and it's been working very well for me.
you forgot that would be a violation of DMCA. go to jail. goodbye. This is getting fscking assinine. Didn't we go through this nonsense with the advent of VHS/BETA? Do you think the advent of that technology really crushed an industry? I think not. I'm just ranting but I'm getting really tired of these blow-hards whining that they need copy-protection. Half the crap that they market is garbage anyway.
So I ask: what makes voice data so high and mighty that it needs such a high level of reliability If I have to make a 911 call over that VoIP circuit, I wouldn't want any dropped packets (read QoS)
I sense a little frustration......just kidding. Unfortunately, the "compatibility" issues you're speaking of are the result of many different players in the VoIP arena adding "extra value" to otherwise open protocols (H.323, SIP) to get you on their service. Hopefully once VoIP gains more credibility, you're issues will become moot.
you have the holy grail of keyboards. My brother in law has been looking for ages for one of those...anyone know where you can get one?
Been seeing these same errors since last week. I thought it was my network.....
SIP is an open protocol and Skype is using existing VoIP protocols (SIP, H.323?) and then "embracing and extending" them with extra functionality (read: proprietary extensions). Sound familiar? I'd back the provider using the open, documented protocols....
"Many of the arguments in the lawsuit and some of its language echoed a report issued by computer security experts in late September, which warned that the ubiquitous reach of Microsoft's software on desktops worldwide had made computer networks a national security risk."
@Stake, are you listening?
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission..
Lets say I own a phone company and one of my customers is a telemarketing agency. My customer (the telemarketer), would tell me that they need a feature that would prevent them from completing a phone call to someone who is on a do not call list. I would set up the telemarketer's phone service so that every time they made a call, my switch would query a database containing the numbers which are registered on a do-not-call list. If the called number appears on the list, the telemarketer would hear an announcement stating that the "number you have reached does not accept telemarketing calls". Point is, I don't think the telemarketers themselves have a physical hard-copy of the list. It would be really cumbersome and inefficient because the DNC list would be changing constantly. The telemarketers are still making "cold-calls" but they don't have to worry about completing a call to a DNC listed number. If the service fails, the telemarketer could claim immunity from any penalties (legal/monetary) because his/her telephone provider is supposed to keep him/her in check. Hope that clarifies how this works.......
my point exactly...but you beat me to the post. Contributing code isn't the only way to contribute to the linux kernel. People forget that many linux distributor's are employing the top kernel hackers so they can feed their families and contribute code on their own time...
Reminds me of a bit from George Carlin that went something like this It doesn't take a fscking village to raise a child. It takes a mother and a father.
I signed up for the ROTC ( Run Over To Canada) program in college but was rejected. They said something about military service?
hands down, definitely the best flame I've ever read. work of art.
Why does everyone on /. keep picking on this guy Joe Blow and his two relatives, Joe Schmo and Joe Six-Pack? Man, they must be some dumb motherf2ckers.
It seems that the record companies may already be addressing the "compact Disc Logo" issue on some CD's. I just looked at the inside tray of my Police CD (The Very Best of....Sting & The Police 2002 A&M Records) and noticed that no where on the case do I see the CD Logo authorized by Phillips red book standard. If you look at the tray that the disc sits on, you see the rectangle shapes on the upper right and lower left corners but no Compact Disc Logo. This is probably old news for many of you, but I've been trying to pick out the copy protected CD's in my own collection but have found nothing conspicuous until now. BTW it still plays in all my stereos and two PCs.....
I believe the "offensive CD" was a reference to the music on the website. I consider myself pretty open-minded when it comes to music but that was just painful to listen to. I think I'll go and cleanse my palatte(sp?) now by listening to the soundtrack of Glitter.
Thanks for the eloquent post. You should have been modded at +5 under-rated as well. That's a point that I tried to make previously but I usually get modded down as a troll.
that there's nothing more dangerous than a geek with a cause and access to the internet Good Job!
I should have clarified myself.....Can SCO enforce a blanket license covering the kernel and everything else that makes it a complete operating system? As far as I can tell, SCO's beef is only with the kernel (2.4.0 and later). If you look at the license it's still referring to the 'linux operating system'
The "/." effect has mutated and hit the stock market