What part of my post exactly made it sound as if I was sympathetic to Microsoft? I dislike their crummy products and terrible business practices as much as the next guy. They have crushed innovation and set us back by years.
I was just pointing out that the free software community is a label applied to a very large group of people pulling in different directions and not everyone is bent on destroying Microsoft at any cost and forming the "one true distro" - who is anyone to say what millions of developers should be doing with their spare time?
I personally write free software because I enjoy it, I like the free exchange of ideas and software with other developers and I like being able to explore other ideas and ways of doing things. I also very much appreciate being able to have a completely free and constantly evolving desktop.
The fact that people have responded to my post spitting and sneering just goes to prove my point. If you'd bother to follow the link to my website or look at my posting history you'd see that I pretty much share your point of view.
...if you Linux people don't get off your mighty high horse and look at what could get people to migrate from Windows to Linux, it will never happen. I don't care if it is Ubuntu, or Suze, or Red Hat, or whatever. Just have one damn version and make the damn thing work for the latest technology...
You seem to be labouring under the misconception that the free software/open source communities see world domination or the destruction of Microsoft as an ultimate goal.
"you Linux people" are a disparate group of loosely connected individuals, pursuing their own goals and agendas. The only people interested in world domination in my experience are disgruntled Windows users and a fringe minority - not the software developers.
To estimate the time involved, you surely need to know the size of the information involved (don't quote me that bunkum about 170 terabytes in TFA - yes I did read it), and to know the size you need to know what all the information is, which you can't (and surely new information is created all the time?).
This translates as "I pulled my finger out my ass, waved it in the air and came up with 300 years."
btw why did they have "welshy" ? was it just a gag, or what?
The United Kingdom is made up of four territories, Scotland, England, Northern Ireland and Wales. People from Wales are Welsh, people from Scotland are Scots... get it?
And that wouldn't stop AOL users mailling you - the guys here are talking about mail delivered DIRECTLY from AOL IP addresses (ie. Running their own SMTP transports).
Since in practice no user should do this and go through AOL's SMTP servers anyway, you're only going to block crap by firewalling off packets from AOL dial-up/ADSL blocks coming to port 25.
Your culture is the Beatles? THAT should infuriate you. I bet you get ticked off when someone roots through your garbage cans too.
No you fucking arrogant arse, my culture is everything that I've heard, read and watched in the last 30 years of my life, none of which will be available to society in the public domain until long after I and at least the next 3 generations of my progeny are wormfood.
Here in the U.S. we like to sing this Happy Birthday song in the pubs, but lawyers have started going around telling us we can't. So the pubs make up new birthday songs, it's hardly a big deal. The birthday person doesn't care that its not the song they grew up with, because that's not what's important. The song doesn't matter; that a song is sung for someone by people who care about them matters. That is what lasts, that is the true culture, no law can steal it.
And you think that's OK? Jesus Christ! Ok, how old do you think that song is? Still, just because they haven't means the copyright holder won't enforce it eh?
I'm GLAD copyright is holding back McCartney from saturating the planet further. Imagine hearing Love Me Do everywhere you go. Imagine hearing it in the men's room. No thanks.
Why the hell is that holding him back? Surely a shorter copyright and his works going to the public domain (AS HE FUCKING AGREED TO) would ensure little or no airtime as the ClearChannel owned radio stations play the next copyright-protected pop shite?
Returned? It was never in the public domain in the first place, so how could it be returned? As soon as it was created it was de facto copyright of the creators. Why are you 'fucking furious' about this? Because you might have to pay for the music you want rather than being able to download it for free? That's a very weak argument agaisnt copyright extensions
When the hell did I say anything about downloading music? I'm FUCKING FURIOUS because by lobbying for extended copyrights, the media cartels have stopped a great deal of works (by which I mean music, movies, theatrical performances, books, poetry, even software - don't forget the ramifications of a blanket copyright extension) entering the public domain.
The public domain is the whole deal - in order to promote more works and a larger public domain (a repository of knowledge, art and works for the benefit of society), we the public offer a bargain to allow creators a time-restricted monopoly on the copying and distribution of their works.
Somewhere along the line you have been brainwashed into believing that so called "intellectual" property has anything to do with real tangible property. Even worse, imagine how far back do you think we'd be if this extension was in force a hundred years ago?
As Newton famously once said "If I have been able to see a little further, it's because I stood on the shoulders of giants". I don't have to draw you a picture.
If copyright lengths weren't so unreasonably long and copyrights on works not held by their creators - would we even have thought about taxing copyright holdings?
I don't think so.
Wake me up in 50 years time and let's see if the kernel should still by copyrighted;-)
That's not a problem with copyright, though. If `greedy corporations` were being accused of stealing the works of authors and musicians, then I'm sure most people would be in favour of strengthening the copyright laws to protect them.
I never said the works were being stolen by these corporations. These companies lobby constantly for legislation to increase copyright terms by a ridiculous amount (100 years from creation?) to hold on to the rights to make money from works.
In doing this, I am suggesting they have stolen our public domain and subverted the spirit of why copyright was created in the first place - to encourage more creative works. You want to tell me how giving a non-creative corporation 100 years worth of works they can recycle and sell to us encourages more creative works?
No, they bought the rights to distribute it from the creators of the works. What you want is irrelevant. You're free to create your own work and not sell it, although apparantly some posters here are suggesting you have to pay some organisation to own the copyright to it. Bizarrely, this is considered more fair than you just owning it outright!
No. What the other posters are saying is that by greedily holding on to works which are no longer generating revenue you are needlessly denying the rest of us the benefit of those works (which is not in the original spirit of why copyright was created).
If those works are still making money then of course, there's no problem in companies paying a copyright tax. Otherwise, the works become public domain.
This is a band-aid solution to the problem though - copyright terms are simply too long. They should be much shorter (say 5-7 years which is plenty of time to milk any kind of work)
Copyright is not a god given right, it is a bargain between the PUBLIC and artists to encourage creative works of benefit to society.
Unfortunately it has been subverted and twisted to serve a few greedy corporations.
If this goes into force, anything you hear today is unlikely to be returned to the public domain within the lifetime of your GRANDCHILDREN. This is completely fucking unacceptable.
Copyright is already 30 years too long. These media cartels have stolen our public domain and culture, and are renting it back to us in perpetuity.
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I complain about people's spelling of "ridiculous" and then go right ahead and mix up the indefinite and personal pronoun apostrophe rules! Doh!
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...almost as rediculous...
Offtopic I know (and not intended as a flame), but this must be the 20th time I've seen "ridiculous" spelt this way today on Slashdot (each by different posters). Where is everyone getting this spelling from?
Yes, I know the rule about any post complaining about another posters spelling and/or grammar will contain at least one error:D
Is there any recourse in taking aggressive counteraction against, for example, the hoards of chinese IPs that routinely probe and attack domestic hosts?
No, but I find the simplest thing to do is lookup the netblocks/ips for addresses I will be connecting to my SSH/OpenVPN from (in my case, work and my mobile phone GPRS provider) and then crafting a couple of iptables rules to only allow those addresses to connect. I find this cures half of the far east trying to connect:-)
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That is a great article - I really enjoyed that. Thanks for the heads up, I'll be pointing others at that ;-)
What part of my post exactly made it sound as if I was sympathetic to Microsoft? I dislike their crummy products and terrible business practices as much as the next guy. They have crushed innovation and set us back by years.
I was just pointing out that the free software community is a label applied to a very large group of people pulling in different directions and not everyone is bent on destroying Microsoft at any cost and forming the "one true distro" - who is anyone to say what millions of developers should be doing with their spare time?
I personally write free software because I enjoy it, I like the free exchange of ideas and software with other developers and I like being able to explore other ideas and ways of doing things. I also very much appreciate being able to have a completely free and constantly evolving desktop.
The fact that people have responded to my post spitting and sneering just goes to prove my point. If you'd bother to follow the link to my website or look at my posting history you'd see that I pretty much share your point of view.
You seem to be labouring under the misconception that the free software/open source communities see world domination or the destruction of Microsoft as an ultimate goal.
"you Linux people" are a disparate group of loosely connected individuals, pursuing their own goals and agendas. The only people interested in world domination in my experience are disgruntled Windows users and a fringe minority - not the software developers.
We did a math exercise? What exercise?
To estimate the time involved, you surely need to know the size of the information involved (don't quote me that bunkum about 170 terabytes in TFA - yes I did read it), and to know the size you need to know what all the information is, which you can't (and surely new information is created all the time?).
This translates as "I pulled my finger out my ass, waved it in the air and came up with 300 years."
Google Local seems to be broken in Konqueror - it goes into an endless loop of redirection and never loads.
You owe me a keyboard. And a beer.
Will you please stop posting this god-damn troll?
I've read this text too many times lately and any points you may have had are extremely out of date.
I personally find it sad that you have nothing better to do than continually post this tripe.
Loser.
I knew that you knew - just stated it in case anyone reading didn't ;-)
And I don't blame you for telling them to stick it.
When the CMOS battery finally drains after a few years PC usage, the hardware clock is reset to 01/01/1980 when you subsequently start the machine up.
btw why did they have "welshy" ? was it just a gag, or what?
The United Kingdom is made up of four territories, Scotland, England, Northern Ireland and Wales. People from Wales are Welsh, people from Scotland are Scots... get it?
I run a project that aims to be a java port of CherryPy. Supports all free vms and is very lightweight.
OOWeb
Because it's probably not ATOS decision. I worked with ATOS on a project for a large telecoms company this year and we deployed JBoss on Linux.
After all, they just provide bodies - they don't care about the technology.
then cried fowl on piracy
What? Like "Chicken!" or something?
From his ability to program computers at only 12 years old
That really isn't anything special - I was programming games in Z80 and 6502 at 9 years old and I'm sure I'm not exceptional by Slashdot standards.
And that wouldn't stop AOL users mailling you - the guys here are talking about mail delivered DIRECTLY from AOL IP addresses (ie. Running their own SMTP transports).
Since in practice no user should do this and go through AOL's SMTP servers anyway, you're only going to block crap by firewalling off packets from AOL dial-up/ADSL blocks coming to port 25.
Your culture is the Beatles? THAT should infuriate you. I bet you get ticked off when someone roots through your garbage cans too.
No you fucking arrogant arse, my culture is everything that I've heard, read and watched in the last 30 years of my life, none of which will be available to society in the public domain until long after I and at least the next 3 generations of my progeny are wormfood.
Here in the U.S. we like to sing this Happy Birthday song in the pubs, but lawyers have started going around telling us we can't. So the pubs make up new birthday songs, it's hardly a big deal. The birthday person doesn't care that its not the song they grew up with, because that's not what's important. The song doesn't matter; that a song is sung for someone by people who care about them matters. That is what lasts, that is the true culture, no law can steal it.
And you think that's OK? Jesus Christ! Ok, how old do you think that song is? Still, just because they haven't means the copyright holder won't enforce it eh?
I'm GLAD copyright is holding back McCartney from saturating the planet further. Imagine hearing Love Me Do everywhere you go. Imagine hearing it in the men's room. No thanks.
Why the hell is that holding him back? Surely a shorter copyright and his works going to the public domain (AS HE FUCKING AGREED TO) would ensure little or no airtime as the ClearChannel owned radio stations play the next copyright-protected pop shite?
Your point of view scares the crap out of me.
Returned? It was never in the public domain in the first place, so how could it be returned? As soon as it was created it was de facto copyright of the creators. Why are you 'fucking furious' about this? Because you might have to pay for the music you want rather than being able to download it for free? That's a very weak argument agaisnt copyright extensions
When the hell did I say anything about downloading music? I'm FUCKING FURIOUS because by lobbying for extended copyrights, the media cartels have stopped a great deal of works (by which I mean music, movies, theatrical performances, books, poetry, even software - don't forget the ramifications of a blanket copyright extension) entering the public domain.
The public domain is the whole deal - in order to promote more works and a larger public domain (a repository of knowledge, art and works for the benefit of society), we the public offer a bargain to allow creators a time-restricted monopoly on the copying and distribution of their works.
Somewhere along the line you have been brainwashed into believing that so called "intellectual" property has anything to do with real tangible property. Even worse, imagine how far back do you think we'd be if this extension was in force a hundred years ago?
As Newton famously once said "If I have been able to see a little further, it's because I stood on the shoulders of giants". I don't have to draw you a picture.
If copyright lengths weren't so unreasonably long and copyrights on works not held by their creators - would we even have thought about taxing copyright holdings?
;-)
I don't think so.
Wake me up in 50 years time and let's see if the kernel should still by copyrighted
That's not a problem with copyright, though. If `greedy corporations` were being accused of stealing the works of authors and musicians, then I'm sure most people would be in favour of strengthening the copyright laws to protect them.
I never said the works were being stolen by these corporations. These companies lobby constantly for legislation to increase copyright terms by a ridiculous amount (100 years from creation?) to hold on to the rights to make money from works.
In doing this, I am suggesting they have stolen our public domain and subverted the spirit of why copyright was created in the first place - to encourage more creative works. You want to tell me how giving a non-creative corporation 100 years worth of works they can recycle and sell to us encourages more creative works?
No, they bought the rights to distribute it from the creators of the works. What you want is irrelevant. You're free to create your own work and not sell it, although apparantly some posters here are suggesting you have to pay some organisation to own the copyright to it. Bizarrely, this is considered more fair than you just owning it outright!
No. What the other posters are saying is that by greedily holding on to works which are no longer generating revenue you are needlessly denying the rest of us the benefit of those works (which is not in the original spirit of why copyright was created).
If those works are still making money then of course, there's no problem in companies paying a copyright tax. Otherwise, the works become public domain.
This is a band-aid solution to the problem though - copyright terms are simply too long. They should be much shorter (say 5-7 years which is plenty of time to milk any kind of work)
Copyright is not a god given right, it is a bargain between the PUBLIC and artists to encourage creative works of benefit to society.
Unfortunately it has been subverted and twisted to serve a few greedy corporations.
I am FUCKING furious.
If this goes into force, anything you hear today is unlikely to be returned to the public domain within the lifetime of your GRANDCHILDREN. This is completely fucking unacceptable.
Copyright is already 30 years too long. These media cartels have stolen our public domain and culture, and are renting it back to us in perpetuity.
I'm off to write to my MP.
GRRRRRR
...and nobody bloody cares or remembers.
SwingWT is a FREE implementation of the Swing APIs on top of SWT so you get all the juicy nativeness of SWT and all of the nice APIness of Swing.
I complain about people's spelling of "ridiculous" and then go right ahead and mix up the indefinite and personal pronoun apostrophe rules! Doh!
Offtopic I know (and not intended as a flame), but this must be the 20th time I've seen "ridiculous" spelt this way today on Slashdot (each by different posters). Where is everyone getting this spelling from?
Yes, I know the rule about any post complaining about another posters spelling and/or grammar will contain at least one error :D
No offence intended.
Is there any recourse in taking aggressive counteraction against, for example, the hoards of chinese IPs that routinely probe and attack domestic hosts?
No, but I find the simplest thing to do is lookup the netblocks/ips for addresses I will be connecting to my SSH/OpenVPN from (in my case, work and my mobile phone GPRS provider) and then crafting a couple of iptables rules to only allow those addresses to connect. I find this cures half of the far east trying to connect :-)