Except the little fact that Windows is much more like KDE then GNOME. I have nothing against options (I'm an Emacs user), but I hate visual noise that of the "KDE preference dialog" or "modern IDE" sort.
What does it matter when the latest version was created--existing users would have to learn their editor again (and some bits again when switching environments), GNOME even has the option to use some Emacs bindings... Either way when people spend much time in one application its not that important to follow the interface guidelines, because such apps tend to be task specific environments of their own. Does Maya follow interface guidelines to the letter?
Claiming to be omniscient is absurd (you can't know if your knowlage of your knowlage is complete). It is not absurd to claim that an omniscient would be absurd.
What's wrong with just plugging and playing, if the technology can be made transparent enough for a TV system to be plug-and-playable?
Nothing, you just refuse to accept that it can't be made transparent enough, not as long as you need backwards compatibility. And certainly not if you want something more then a simple TV (many average people want recoring for example).
From the perspective of someone approaching the same problem today--for either one of us, even--this isn't the most intuitive solution, and there's no need for it any longer.
We know that, but for someone who already has the setup in place and does not know that (because he didn't take the time to inform himself) the most intutive solution is to put his brand new HTDV in place of the old one and hook it up to the same wires. This problem can not be overcome by adding yet another connector to the back of the TV.
Of course, if you're setting up a complicated AV system with multiple inputs and outputs from all over your home, your setup will still be complicated; even in this situation, however, you'd hopefully just be able to follow the cables without necessarily needing to know the industry name for the different connectors and things.
You may not need to know the names, but you need to know the difference between DVI and composite to not render the whole thing moot.
Personally, I think it's self-centered of the consumer electronics companies to continue expecting the customer to submit to their will and spend his or her time digging through manuals and setup guides.
No, producing devices with one kind of connector and telling people to but new deviced for everything because the old ones are too complicated to plug in, that would be self centered.
Better ignore me then insult my intelligence... To "[..] knowing that you should use the strange new connector instead of the old familiar ones [..]" (obviously composite beeing the most familiar) you first answer with "Yes, but this is straightforward and easy to learn" and finish your post with "But you certainly shouldn't have to know the difference between composite video, coax, antenna, or whatever the hell else there is for the technicians to take care of." Seriously, WTF? One moment it's "straightforward and easy" and the other something only technicians should have to know?
Why would you expect to use your VCR as a TV receiver in the first place?
A common setup for over-the-air TV, you don't have to tune both your TV and VCR for the same channels and can easly record what you are watching. [joe]Why would I have to change anything to receive HDTV?[/joe]
You'd still have available all the other, obsolete connections, hidden behind a rubber fliptop panel, in case you had older equipment (like that VCR) you wanted to use with the system, but the connectors would look physically different enough that you'd know at a glance which one's the right one to use.
And se we are back to users having to know what they are doing. Knowing not to use the old VCR as a TV receiver, knowing that you should use the strange new connector instead of the old familiar ones, etc.
The problems that exist with Joe Sixpack's lack of tech comprehension maybe caused by his inability to read directions or his lack of caring, but the question in the tech community that is almost never asked is why should they care?
Quality and not paying absurd sums of money for thing you don't need:
Quality: in this case having a resolution of 1280x720 vs 640x480.
Price: paying for a HDTV if the above does not matter is absurd, paying for lock in (or lack of backwards compatibility) that makes things somewhat easy isn't much better.
Joe average certainly cares about price and is often angry when he learns that he has been ripped of.
The average Joe doesn't think about how the phone works or how their electricity works, it just works.
At one point or another Joe learned that you don't put metal rods into the outlet.
The average (european) Joe also knows that directly pluging in the device he brought from the USA (even if it fits) is generaly not a good idea.
Joe average knows quite a lot about electricity because he's grown up with it and because mistakes can be deadly or expensive. He will not complain that he can't plug in his car refrigerator into the wall outlet.
Similary Joe knows that he has to enter an obscure sequence of numbers to call hid buddy instead of typing or telling the phone who he wants to speak with.
Why does the iPod own the digital media player market? Because it just works.
No, because it's the thing to own. It's "cool" and "stylish", if you put an iPod into another box (one without Apple or iPod) on it and sell it for half the price hardly anyone will buy it. Do you believe that Joe knows the real differences between players? Remember that this includes learning the differences, something you don't expect Joe to do.
Until the people responsible for product design, industrial design, software design and web design understand that user experience is one the, if not the most important aspect of design, we will be cursed to answer questions and troubleshoot until the cows come home.
Until people learn that even the most user friendly interface requires a certain amount of basic knowlage...
...and again, for this I'm thankful since I will always have a job.
...marketing people will gladly sell Joe moon cheese no matter how good you are at your job. User experience will become important when users start to evaluate it as part of an informed purchase along with basic technical indicators.
Almost no geeks dress up in robes and chant in strange languages when connecting cables and fixing computers, it's really not our fault that the rest of the world (sorry, no made up statistics here) sees tech as magic. Usability is one thing, not fucking wanting to know anything or not even reading what the damn on screen menus say is something else entirely.
And what's great about that? The fact that companies can keep selling things people don't need, but now with DRM all over it? Disappointed masses would be great news, sheep thinking that they have the greener grass is not great news.
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Believe it or not but part of Germany is also part of the former Soviet Block...
It's an RSS feed that links to audio files instead of articles, if you subscribe to it with a compatible client it automaticly downloads the audio files.
So? I didn't say that it's not benefitial for Debian. But Ubuntu is NOT "debian done right" because it's not a fork, but more a layer on top of it, depending on everything below. Ubuntu depends on Debian the same way it depends on GCC and Linux, that's good, otherwise I wouldn't have such a nice OS on my machine.
you can actually do things like wait until [..] the bugs are patched [..]
That means waiting until release right? If the bugs are known that certainly should.
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Except the little fact that Windows is much more like KDE then GNOME. I have nothing against options (I'm an Emacs user), but I hate visual noise that of the "KDE preference dialog" or "modern IDE" sort.
Shouldn't we get the current version out of beta first?
What does it matter when the latest version was created--existing users would have to learn their editor again (and some bits again when switching environments), GNOME even has the option to use some Emacs bindings... Either way when people spend much time in one application its not that important to follow the interface guidelines, because such apps tend to be task specific environments of their own. Does Maya follow interface guidelines to the letter?
Claiming to be omniscient is absurd (you can't know if your knowlage of your knowlage is complete). It is not absurd to claim that an omniscient would be absurd.
Yes, those damn warmongering islamists. Or not.
You are on the wrong website, get back to "dotslash" ASAP.
Ah, and don't forget the obligatory DRM scheme getting in your way.
What if you connected it to a cable box via composite cable? Or use your old VCR as receiver just like you did with the old TV?
- Quality: in this case having a resolution of 1280x720 vs 640x480.
- Price: paying for a HDTV if the above does not matter is absurd, paying for lock in (or lack of backwards compatibility) that makes things somewhat easy isn't much better.
Joe average certainly cares about price and is often angry when he learns that he has been ripped of. At one point or another Joe learned that you don't put metal rods into the outlet. The average (european) Joe also knows that directly pluging in the device he brought from the USA (even if it fits) is generaly not a good idea. Joe average knows quite a lot about electricity because he's grown up with it and because mistakes can be deadly or expensive. He will not complain that he can't plug in his car refrigerator into the wall outlet. Similary Joe knows that he has to enter an obscure sequence of numbers to call hid buddy instead of typing or telling the phone who he wants to speak with. No, because it's the thing to own. It's "cool" and "stylish", if you put an iPod into another box (one without Apple or iPod) on it and sell it for half the price hardly anyone will buy it. Do you believe that Joe knows the real differences between players? Remember that this includes learning the differences, something you don't expect Joe to do. Until people learn that even the most user friendly interface requires a certain amount of basic knowlage...Almost no geeks dress up in robes and chant in strange languages when connecting cables and fixing computers, it's really not our fault that the rest of the world (sorry, no made up statistics here) sees tech as magic. Usability is one thing, not fucking wanting to know anything or not even reading what the damn on screen menus say is something else entirely.
And what's great about that? The fact that companies can keep selling things people don't need, but now with DRM all over it? Disappointed masses would be great news, sheep thinking that they have the greener grass is not great news.
Believe it or not but part of Germany is also part of the former Soviet Block...
It's an RSS feed that links to audio files instead of articles, if you subscribe to it with a compatible client it automaticly downloads the audio files.
Giant squids have been confirmed for some time now, what they managed recently is photographing a live one.
Value comes from products--licensing is mostly money transport with little gain to the economy.
Life is not a zero sum game.
So? I didn't say that it's not benefitial for Debian. But Ubuntu is NOT "debian done right" because it's not a fork, but more a layer on top of it, depending on everything below. Ubuntu depends on Debian the same way it depends on GCC and Linux, that's good, otherwise I wouldn't have such a nice OS on my machine.
you can actually do things like wait until [..] the bugs are patched [..] That means waiting until release right? If the bugs are known that certainly should.