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New Mammal Species Found in Borneo
lemonysam writes "The BBC is reporting that a new mammal species has been discovered in Borneo by a conservation group trying to document the local species, as part an effort to prevent the destruction of their habitat by logging and agriculture. The species, which has not been identified by local experts or the indigenous population, is roughly the size of a domestic cat and is believed to be carnivorous."
What does it taste like?
What are you listening to? (http://megamanic.blogetery.com/)
I just HAVE to have a coat with this critter's fur as trim.
New Mammal Found. France Surrenders.
It should be a species of a particular genus, no? Mammals are an entire class of organisms, where if the species is new we should at least be able to identify the genus (and order, and family).
What is even more interesting is not only is it a mammal, but it is a carnivore. This means that is relatively high on the food chain, but it has gone unnoticed thus far. This begs the next question: has it really gone unnoticed for so long, or has the species only recently evolved? We discover new insects and bactera all the time, but discovering a new mammal kind of revives that scientific ambition in all of this that there really are some things out there that haven't been found.
Chicken
Who will guard the guards?
Is what does wrestling have to do with some new species of mammal?
I suppose they are since WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY EXISTED!
Take that northern spotted owl.
It looks like it's taking a dump on camera, which I guess is how many of us might feel if we had to live in a forest "owned" by businessmen, generals and politicians who are plundering it as fast as they can launder and bank their ill-gotten gains.
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It seems that the title is a bit misleading.
"So far, two images are all that exist. But they were enough to convince Nick Isaac from the Institute of Zoology in London that the animal may indeed be new. "The photos look most like a lemur," he told the BBC News website. "But there certainly shouldn't be lemurs in Borneo." "
This all sounds incredibly ethereal to me. Thus I find it odd that they say "New Species Found..."
for a species to "recently evolve" you're talking about tens of thousands of years
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
The species only actually sprung into existence about a year ago. You can tell that, because the local people still don't remember seeing it. Soon, the locals will remember it, complete with a history and folklore. By then it may be real enough that it can exist as a zoo specimen, rather than a mere couple of blurry photos.
Even now, its fossil ancestors are probably forming spontaneously in the rocks of Borneo.
Hmm, But there certainly shouldn't be lemurs in Borneo.
I wonder how hot the lemur black market is? What are the chances it's just an escaped pet lemur?
You can have only two of the following three qualities when developing a product: cheap, fast or good.
...the Chupacabra to me!
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The chupacabra?
If these "new" creatures can live and fend for themselves, why shouldn't we look after their habitat? I mean if humans got a right to live, have these not? But I wonder if they go well with a mild marinated sauce.
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"The photos look most like a lemur," he told the BBC News website. "But there certainly shouldn't be lemurs in Borneo."
Tell that to the fucking lemurs in Borneo.
CowboyNeal what are you doing in Borneo? I'd say quite a good match with the photo...
Men are such pigs... they're trying to take our precious planetary gases!
Because everything tastes like chicken -- especially when you're drunk (or on Fear Factor).
This is all a ruse to keep us from finding their hidden diamond after all the trees are gone.
Was it just me, or did the image of the new mammal first look like a tiny brontosaurus?
It really looks like a Fossa - usually native to Madagascar. Wikipedia Fossa.
It's a member of the Viverridae family, which is fairly poorly known, due to their being a) nocturnal b) rare and c) furtive.
Another furry critter that have survived for a long time until meeting humanity. Oh golly, let's stuff it and place it on the mantelpiece, or swarm scientists down to it's natural habitat until it gives up and hangs itself.
Some of the things in the back of my fridge have evolved to the point of coherent speech, and I'm sure life on earth would get as far if only scientists (and developers, of course) kept their fingers (and bulldozers) out of the game.
"Wild Man From Borneo"
by Kinky Friedman
I'm the star of Captain Midnight's traveling show
came to this circus many moons ago
my mother's in your story books
she loved a jungle king
left me standing here alone
inside the center ring
in a bamboo cage I crossed the raging sea
like a page torn direct from history
a hairy scary legendary screaming souvenir
don't you come too close to me
don't you come too near
(chorus)
I'm the wild man from Borneo
the wild man from Borneo
you come to see
what you want to see
you come to see but you never come to know of
the tattooed lady left the circus train
left all of her pictures in the rain
and I wonder if you're happy
I wonder if you're free
I wonder if you'll ever know the mark you left on me
(chorus)
Narrator: Bigfoot: Endangered Mystery! In the dense forests of the Pacific Northwest dwells the strange and beautiful creature known as Bigfoot, perhaps.
Fry: That proves it!
Narrator: Sadly, logging and human settlement today threaten what might possibly be his habitat, although if it's not, they don't. Bigfoot populations require vast amounts of land to remain elusive in. They typically dwell just behind rocks, but are also sometimes playful, bounding into thick fogs and out-of-focus areas. Remember, it's up to us. Bigfoot is a crucial part of the ecosystem, if he exists. So let's all help keep Bigfoot possibly alive for future generations to enjoy unless he doesn't exist. The end!
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I'll get my hat....
In the not too distant future, next Sunday A.D.
BBC TV reported that there was some debate over what the new beastie should be called. The leader of the team which discovered it was one Stephan Wulffraat.
I know what my money's on.
...I don't think they exist.
Nice, here we go!
http://imdb.com/title/tt0452718/
The simplest explanation is usually the best.
From here.
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With [Borneo's] current deforestation rate of 1.3 million hectares per year - an area equivalent to about one third of the size of Switzerland - only peat and montane forests would survive in the coming years.
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...and that's a lot of land - per year.
[From WWF report via http://www.fire.uni-freiburg.de/media/2005/news_2
1.3 million hectares = 3,212,369.96 acres
Makes you wonder what else has been trampled underfoot undiscovered.
Callum Rankine
Hell yeah. I'd say this is exciting.
FYI it took me a lot to write this post. Using one hand on the keyboard makes me so slow!
The whole area of the filing of lifeforms - taxonomy - is in a state of flux, and the best way to get a grip on it is to read the popular writings of Jay Gould, who is so sadly no longer with us. Classification with genetics is at an early stage and we still do not know how to measure genetic difference reliably - which is why there is now disagreement over how closely human beings and chimpanzees are related. We can measure very small genetic divergences in the same species, but measuring the size and significance of genetic diferences between related species is very hard.
Disclaimer - I am not a taxonomist, just someone who is interested in the subject. Which is why I urge you to read Jay Gould. Even if you aren't really that interested in the subject, his writings should be familiar to any reasonably well informed slashdot reader.
Pining for the fjords
So IT IS decided that these animals will go extinct is it?Documentaion of them is the main concern?!! huh.
Why does yahoo do this
For a second I saw a dinosaur in that, until I discovered the eyes and tried to see the "Not a lemur" thing. (ofcourse Dinosaurs aren't lemurs!)
I think we can keep recursing like this until someone returns 1
Whales don't eat plancton, they eat small crustaceans (krill).
Some of them (toothed whales) eat fishes and other sea mammals as well IIRC.
I trust that now that we know about this mammal we'll begin working immediately to destroy it's natural habitat and poison its food source. But don't worry, little fella. There'll be plenty of room for you in our labratories, zoos & untested rockets.
This new species, homo estupidus, has actually existed for thousands of years. The earliest known findings of evidence of their existence dates back to the middle ages, when these creatures were known to mimic human behavior, except that they tended toward an extreme displeasure of difference, especially with respect to social standing and wealth. Particularly, they were displeased with the social or socioeconomic advancement of others. While homo estupidus pervaded western Europe in the middle ages, the industrial period brought forth their mass expulsion from Western Europe, during which time masses of homo estupidus, voluntarily even, were loaded onto boats and shipped to a little-known new land called Massachussets. There they thrived, and were renamed in the mid 1900's from homo estupidus to the simple name of just Kennedy. Since then, they have been a thriving culture and have almost perfected their methods of preventing social and economic growth in other species, even going so far as to drown members of other species when it was deemed necessary to further their cultural goals. There have been occasional perturbations in their species, however, with some of them becoming socially tied to homo republicanus, but such can be expected when they travel to the extreme western part of the North American continent so far from their home land, and there have been only few documented cases of such cross-breeding.
no posts welcoming our new feline-marsupial hybrid red-furred overlords? for shame...
I am very sucseptible to "let's have another drink"
The species, which has not been identified by local experts or the indigenous population, is roughly the size of a domestic cat and is believed to be carnivorous.
Well.. it could be a cat!!!
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NO, I didn't RTFA, how observant of you.
This must be that long-tailed animal from Spirou. What is it called in English? (Was called Spiralis in Norwegian)
It's:
In Korea only the old people discover new mammals.
AND
In Soviet Russia, the new mammal finds you!
So who's got the URL for the NotALemur'tse?
Hi, did they pick a name for the animal yet? Or are they going to sell naming rights on eBay? bye, Till
I find new species all the time in my fridge :> One of them ate my domestic cat.
Tux2slack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabras
Wrong continent, but I suppose it could have migrated. The Wiki picture is only one of many... others in the Google Image search look much like the recent pictures of the "new" animal.
you may become severely burned
"One of the photos clearly shows the length of the tail and how muscley it is; civets use their tails to balance in trees, so this new animal may spend chunks of its time up trees too."
It also sends chunks to the ground.
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
It's Bill the cat! And he looks pissed.
welcome our new borneon flesh-eating overlords.
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Creation Took Eight Days...
//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
Does it look like one of these?
Men are such pigs... they're trying to take our precious planetary gases!
If it'll make everyone feel better, I'll be happy to give back some gases - we men are good at that!
P.S. The GP is a raging moron - WTF???
"One of the photos clearly shows the length of the tail and how muscly it is"
Wow, not only did they discover a new mammal, but a new word as well!!!
What we really need is more feminine values, nurturing our wildlife and taking care of our own oxygen supply. It is also the heartful and intelligent thing to do.
Does this meant once a month we get to go bat fvcking insane on wildlife and our oxygen supply for a few days?
Computers allow humans to make mistakes at the fastest speeds known, with the possible exception of tequila and handguns
Oh sure -- you eat one conservationist, and they tag you a carnivore.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."--Feynman
See check the link below. http://www.iucn.org/themes/ssc/sgs/mvpsg/species.h tml#Viverridae
But these creatures are native to Madagascar.
A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck COULD chuck wood.
Why is it that when some imbecile like you comes along, you never get the talking down you deserve?
Stop stereotyping, asshole, values have nothing to do with gender.
How pathetic are you that you follow me from topic to topic and waste all your mod points at once modding me down?
I also have a mammal the size of a domestic cat at my house!
It is also a carnivore!
This story is amazing!!
are either rare or low in the food chain?
I know it's off topic but I'd be interested in reading about your survival story (i.e. being standed in the bush), and what sort of things you had to do (i.e. shelter, food, water).
someone's pet lemur that they just let out to "do it's business" and it strayed a bit far afield.
Still, the whole "new species of mammal" thing is a lot more exciting and newsworthy. I can't really blame them for making a bit of a fuss about it.
You wouldn't know comedy if it bit you on the ass.
is believed to be carnivorous.
I believe you mean karmawhoreous. God, I hate those creatures.
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My first thought was that Nick Isaac was smoking something good. It sure looks like a fossa to me, and it's possibly a related viverrid. That could lead to a real breakthrough in our understanding of the Malagasay viverrids. As far as I know there really aren't any close relatives of the fossa anywhere else in the world, and this could help solve the question of whether the fossa (Cryptoprocta Ferox) and the malagasay civet (confusingly categorised as Fossa Fossana) are related or not.
Only too bad that SLASHDOT DOESN'T ALLOW PICTURES to be posted....
Why is it that when some imbecile like you comes along, you never get the talking down you deserve?
Stop stereotyping, asshole, values have nothing to do with gender.
I think you're you're mistaking gender and feminine and masculine energy. I'm sorry I didn't clarify that in my post, but I will try to give a short explanation here:
Even if you are a man, you possess some feminine qualities, and vica versa. Nobody is 100% feminine or 100% masculine, or if they are pretty close to 100%, they have some hormone imbalance (saw a documentary about that once).
Feminine energy or values is about nurturing, heart-connection, love, education, sharing and openness.
Masculine energy or values is about control, power, achievements, height, everything big and huge and pretty darn impressive and controlling.
Every human being display some balance of each in different settings, so this is again not about gender. Indeed, the balance can be totally opposite for a given gender, giving rise to homosexuality or behaviour which is seen as more appropriate for the other sex.
The world has been in an age of masuline energy dominating for quite some time (a few thousand of years), with the result of men ruling the world. Before that, societies with women ruling was the norm (believe it or not, but archeological finds and folklore confirms this). However, what we're seeing now is the rise of feminine energy again (this has been going on for the last hundreds of years). This marks a new age, because the imbalance of masculine energy has caused alot of war and suffering.
Feminine energy is indeed superior to masculine energy, because it doesn't lead to suffering, confusion and war, like masculine energy. This is, if you don't love war over peace though, so preferences may vary. However, a balance of both may become far superior to any of them alone, which can give rise to both love and power.
This is a very interesting time to be living.
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/
So it's real afterall!!!!!!
I'm answering my own post..Chupacabras is in south america.
This came out faster than researchers could verify the results, and before they obtained a live capture.
I think we should all take this with a grain of salt, that picture could have been taken anywhere.
Keep in mind these people have an agenda to stop logging in the area. Though a noble effort, a bad though crafty way to go about acquiring results. However, it may be that there is no logging going on in these parts in which case they are lying to make sure the area is declared forest preserve. It may be that this ends up working, and the area ends up protected in the future as a result.
Just something to think about.
"The photos look most like a lemur," he told the BBC News website. "But there certainly shouldn't be lemurs in Borneo."
It's obviously just a man in a lemur costume.
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They could name it after the leading biologist on the team, Stephen Wulffraat - "Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you - the Wolf-Rat!"
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http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/unixnut4/index.html
Just in time, O'Reilly must be running out of unique book covers by now :]
I wonder which lucky book title will be affiliated with this critter.
-jc
Toothed whales cannot (as far as I know) eat plankton, so they are definitely carnivores. Krill is animal, as are zooplankton (as opposed to phytoplankton, which is plant, and bacterioplankton, which is bacterial). This means that Baeleen whales are eating both plant and animal, so are technically omnivores.
Dogs are also omnivores - well, maybe I should say that they THINK they're omnivores. T. Rex was probably omnivore - there is evidence it ate plant material - and if they ever extract any DNA from the T. Rex organic material they've found, you may yet get the chance to eat one. Or vice versa.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
" and is believed to be carnivorous"
Well, Bob, it appears to be carni...
This family is full of misfits. Ever seen a civet, or a fossa?
"It's not a lemuhr"
The first thing i thought when i saw the picture was "lemur."
"But there certainly shouldn't be lemurs in Borneo."
Lemurs... Madagascar. Pirates in the Indian Ocean used Madagascar as base of operations. Pirates were all about having exotic pets (monkeys, the obligotory parot. why not a lemur?). Is it posible that pirates in the Indian Ocean could have ended up in Borneo?
We first have to understand where it is on the food chain. It might be a vital link in the production of human food. Also, we don't know yet what it tastes like, or if its fur is usable for industrial purposes. Perhaps the skin of this critter has properties that make it useful for clothing, footwear, or seating for luxurious Italian sports cars.
What the WWF really needs to do is capture the male and female of the species and determine if they will breed in captivity. If so, we could easily answer all of these questions. You never know, you might be able to burn this thing's piss in your car for fuel. If it tastes good, well then there's a whole new food source. If the fur is particulary soft or the skin is supple, I see whole new clothing lines on the horizon.
Bottom line is, we should hold off on the logging until we develop some new industry centered around the wholesale raising and slaughtering of this potentially useful species..
Haha, that's so priceless.
I think this is just a plot by O'Reily Media since they're running out of animals to illustrate on their books.
...is it designed in an intelligent fashion, or is it some randomly evolved scum? :-)
I've eaten crocodile and the last thing I thought of was chicken. Maybe chicken that had decided that flying was for the birds and had chosen to devolve back to the sea for a couple of dozen millenia. There is something distinctly fishy about crocodile.
Cheers,
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That's MY donkey, you insensitive clod.
So some tree huggers through a lemar they brought over in front of a camera, I'm not impressed, plus the world needs palm oil, cut it down.
The picture is clearly a lemur. Yes, there are no lemurs in Madagascar. That's the point. The sighting is in a forest targeted for development with funding from a China, so the only way to get the project derailed is to generate international pressure to save the crypto-species. The species sighting is fictitious, but now the media are reporting on the development project.
Its not a new species, just a newly discovered one
The team which discovered it, led by biologist Stephan Wulffraat, is publishing full details in a new book on Borneo and its wildlife.
Wulffraat? Wolf-Rat? A biologist.
Is this a hoax?
-judd
They'll name it a "Jakovasaur," duh!
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Seriously, everything tastes like chicken so this will too. That said, perhaps it won't catch the bird flu, so we can farm big vast hordes of them, like we do chickens now. Then we'll all be safe from the pandemic.
See Mother Nature provides....
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WWF caught two images of the animal, which is bigger than a domestic cat, dark red, and has a long muscular tail... The WWF says there is an urgent need to conserve forests in south-east Asia which are under pressure from logging and the palm oil trade.
WWF then proceeded to smash a chair over the animal's head, climb up a tree, and bodyslam the stunned animal into oblivion.
Is it just me, or do the photos closely resemble a lemur?
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Just a thought....
"The group is planning to capture the new species in a live trap so it can be properly studied and described."
... like a tiger, for instance?
A live trap
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
Bill Gates Found in Borneo.
Film at 11.
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Just a trick of language, whic you disingenuously attempted to pawn off as reality.
"Bundesländer" does NOT mean counrty, and they use it to avoid confusing people like you who are too intellectually lazy to understand the correct translation.
"My statement is similar to the statement, that Texas is a republic, but not a nation."
Yes, I agree, the statements are similar in that they are both wrong.
How pathetic are you that you follow me from topic to topic and waste all your mod points at once modding me down?
Stop trying to backpedal, you displayed your bigotry, and now you're trying to pawn it off as "energy".
It's bigotry, regardless.
"Feminine energy or values is about nurturing, heart-connection, love, education, sharing and openness.
Masculine energy or values is about control, power, achievements, height, everything big and huge and pretty darn impressive and controlling."
That's just stupid on the face of it. Those values are neither "masculine" nor "feminine" in that they appear in everyone. They are simply "values" nothing more, stop making up arbitrary categories and then trying to pigeonhole peole based on them.
Honestly, it disgusts me when I have to deal with people who display your level of ignorance and prejudice, because no amount of reason will ever get through.
How pathetic are you that you follow me from topic to topic and waste all your mod points at once modding me down?
What does the hair look like? What about the hips?
Elvis?