I think the global warming crowd is forgetting one thing: the biggest determinant of the climate on Earth is caused by this thermonuclear fireball about 93,000,000 miles away called the Sun.
Yes, I think you should call up NOAA RIGHT NOW and tell them that all those scientists they employ have forgotten about the sun.
I'm sure that will cause a few snickers at their next friday night beer bash.
According to the original Global Warning theory, the Earth's temperature is higher than it's ever been due to the influence of technology (greenhouse gasses).
Ummm... no. What else can an informed person say?
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The way I heard this is that the melting ice will significantly decrease salt concentration. This is related (can't remember if it's cause or effect) to a slowing down of the entire system of oceanic currents and submarine rivers, essentially fucking everything up.
Cold water moves south at depth as the Gulf Stream moves north on the surface. This is driven by cold water sinking up north somewhere near Greenland??? I forget the geography to be honest. Anyway if the salinity drops significantly, the water won't be as dense, we'll see the flow of cold water southward diminish, and possibly the counterflow of warm water north also diminish.
That's a rough sketch. Oceanographers from the UK have seaborne evidence that this slowing of the cold water component is underway.
The big unknown is how large a change is necessary to cause a breakdown or significant change in the operation of the whole circulation system that's responsible for the Gulf Stream.
No, the models aren't crap. The models continue to be improved as our understanding of physical processes increases, but that doesn't make them crap. The models fit observed data very well these days.
And of course the fact that you in essence claim that models show global warming so administrators can ask for more money is idiotic.
It was also said that the toxic output of this blast contained nearly a thousand times the ozone depleting chemicals that humans have created since the Industrial Revolution.
While it is kind of you to post information based on real science, is there any particular reason you chose not to continue on to point out that very, very little of those chemicals made it to the stratosphere, where ozone depletion reactions take place?
It wouldn't be due to any particular political bias on your part, would it?
Yeah, your right. Everyone who doubts the human impact on global warming must be ignorant. How can they believe a Shell study when there is so much other literature from Greenpeace out there. The results are so obvious that Greenpeace doesn't even need to do research!
Well, you're displaying your ignorance by suggesting that skeptism is justified because Greenpeace publicizes the research results of a very large body of scientists.
That every global warming prediction scientists have made in the last 30 years has fallen flat on its face.
This is simply false...
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You have evidence that says that global warming has been caused by human activity? I haven't seen any.
Don't blame us if you haven't been looking. Since you invoke the "junk science" mantra, I think we can safely presume you get your science from sites like junkscience.com and don't bother reading what actual climatologists, including skeptics, have to say.
Skeptics like Singer and Christy have had to backpedal a great deal in the last two-three years...
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Personally, I don't believe in "global warming" as it's described as being something us evil humans have done to our delicate world.
Your personal beliefs are meaningless. The overwhelming amount of data measured and interpreted by scientists is meaningful.
...it's the height of man's arrogance to assume that every little thing he does will derail the earth's "natural" cycle of ice ages and warm ages.
False premise. No one argues that "every little thing man does" will "derail" the earth's climate cycle. The consensus opinion among climatologists today is that a handful of global-scale actitivites are contributing to measured global warming.
the ship's speed had to be known (which was calculated by latitude and longitude and time).
Actually you have that backwards... deadreckoning depends on knowing your speed and direction. Speed was measured directly by tossing a float overboard - originally a "log" - and counting knots on a rope for 25 seconds, giving you the ships speed in (hang on now!) "knots". The line was scaled so each knot counted represents one nautical mile traveled in one hour.
This speed, along with compass bearing and important changes in weather, was then recorded on a "log board" in chalk. At a change in watch, the new officer of the deck would consult the "log board" to get a snapshot of how the ship was sailing. Periodically the "log board", along with the Captain's comment, would be copied into the "log book" - and, there you are!
Knots, logs, log book... all terms still used today.
No, not all database systems need to do VACUUMing. PG needs to do it because it uses a non-overwriting storage manager. Oracle and InnoDB both overwrite old rows with new data when you do UPDATE rather than create a new row while leaving the old data behind. This involves more complex monkey-motion with transaction logs because transactions that need to see the old data must read from the log rather than data file.
I'm a big PG fan - PG and Oracle are the two RDBMS's I use professionally - but let's get the facts right, eh?
When questioned in 1998, OISM's Arthur Robinson admitted that only 2,100 signers of the Oregon Petition had identified themselves as physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, or meteorologists, "and of those the greatest number are physicists." The names of the signers are available on the OISM's website, but without listing any institutional affiliations or even city of residence, making it very difficult to determine their credentials or even whether they exist at all. When the Oregon Petition first circulated, in fact, environmental activists successfully added the names of several fictional characters and celebrities to the list, including John Grisham, Michael J. Fox, Drs. Frank Burns, B. J. Honeycutt, and Benjamin Pierce (from the TV show M*A*S*H), an individual by the name of "Dr. Red Wine," and Geraldine Halliwell, formerly known as pop singer Ginger Spice of the Spice Girls. Halliwell's field of scientific specialization was listed as "biology."
Not really true. The moon, for instance, is the same distance from the sun as the earth and somewhat cooler, if you haven't noticed.
That's because there's a considerable difference between the atmosphere of earth and the atmosphere of the moon.
And there's a considerable difference between the atmosphere of venus and earth's, and venus is hotter than one expects simply due to its nearer distance to the sun.
Not to mention the petition was circulated with somewhat misleading collateral material:
"The Oregon Petition, sponsored by the OISM, was circulated in April 1998 in a bulk mailing to tens of thousands of U.S. scientists. In addition to the petition, the mailing included what appeared to be a reprint of a scientific paper. Authored by OISM's Arthur B. Robinson and three other people, the paper was titled "Environmental Effects of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide" and was printed in the same typeface and format as the official Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. A cover note from Frederick Seitz, who had served as president of the NAS in the 1960s, added to the impression that Robinson's paper was an official publication of the academy's peer-reviewed journal."
That's not what the petition says. It says there's not evidence of CATASTROPHIC change, and that such change might be good for us, anyway. Signing the petition does not necessarily indicate a belief that there's no evidence for man-made global warming (though it is cleverly worded to convince folks like you that it does).
Rebuttal two:
The opinion of scientists outside a particular technical field's not that relevant. What is relevant is that even leading skeptics like John Christy have come 'round to having to say that climate change is real, and at least partially due to human activities. He was on the NAS committee, drawn up at Bush's request to (he hoped) say "global warming's not real", and signed the unanimous statement to the contrary the committee put forth.
Rebuttal three:
Not all the signatories are scientists. Even a casual scan shows a lot of MDs, who may or may not be doing research. There are lots of PhD's, of course, but they're not tagged with the holder's academic field (why would I care what a PhD in Forestry thinks about climate change? I want to know what climatologists think about it)
You're absolutely wrong. The software engineering literature was littered with academic musings on the writing of secure multi-user, multi-tasking OSes. Actually the Unix model is less sophisticated than (say) Multics, which preceeded it.
For starters, kluge was a German General in WWII. I believe you're thinking of a "kludge".
More importantly, NT/2K/XP were certainly designed and not a quick and dirty rip-off of CP/M. Designed by a team led by the leader of the team who designed VMS for Digital.
Do keep in mind that at major papers like the Post reporters don't write the headlines. Just as they don't decide where their story will run (or if it will run), how big the type used for the head will be, whether or not there will be a subhead, etc.
So don't ding the reporter for the slightly misleading headline. Sounds like the reporter got it right in the part he or she wrote - the article.
Coming from the great Pacific Northwest, home of our country's best coffee... the assertion that the best coffee is brewsed at about 90 C is bullshit. Optimium brewing temperatures are considerably lower.
You should *never* brew with boiling water, that's for damned sure. If you're in the woods and worried about giardia - boil then let the water cool 20 C before brewing.
McDonald's negligence was cut and dried, documented themselves in fall-on-your-sword fashion. The decision was a no-brainer for the jury, which was smart enough to assign 20% responsibility to the plaintiff, BTW.
Which is why she was held 20% at fault by the jury.
McDonald's had all sorts of problems in the lawsuit, including the fact that it was shown that they had prior knowledge of the fact that their coffee was being served hot enough to cause serious injury, that they serve it hotter than is standard in the fast food industry, etc.
I've rewired a house - which is normally legal if you get the proper inspections done - but to rewire a business property as you suggest? That's insanely foolish for many, many reasons, starting with the fact that the poster will be violating local law in most cases, voiding fire insurance, exposing themselves to full liability etc etc.
Mains power can certainly kill. If enough current is flowing to your body to affect your heart it is quite likely to start fibrillating, and to stay in that state even after the source of current is removed.
Very high voltages tend to cause your heart to clamp tightly rather than fibrillate, and if it doesn't kill you outright your heart is far more likely to restart on its own or respond to CPR...
It's the friggin' *law* in most jurisdictions to get a licensed electrician to do this work, and for very good reason.
In a facility I ran years ago I smelled smoke in our main distribution panel. Called our electrician and he *immediately* turned white, got out of there dragging me with him, closing the door to the small power distribution room behind him and immediately went to the building's main distribution breakers next to the elevator shaft on the bottom floor and turned off all power to our floor.
Why? He'd seen the insulation bubbling on the aluminum power cable that was connected to the main copper bus for the breaker box.
It had been connected without anti-oxidation gel and the aluminum had oxidized increasing resistance to the point where the insulation was near burning.
He told me that an electrician had been killed earlier in the year when a suburban shopping mall's main panel blew up as he was inspecting it, after having been called in during the wee hours of the night by the fire department after a report of smoke had been called in.
If the original poster's company doesn't own the building then the landlord can be forced to pay, just call in the friggin' city electrical inspector and after he shits his pants your building owner will be paying to rewire the box ASAP.
No, you don't have to register your copyright in order to sue over copyright infringement. The fact that your work is copyrighted by law when you first create it would be useless if this were the case.
However... registration of copyright proves that the work was created before the infringement occured and - very important - opens the possibility of treble punitive damages and recovery of legal fees.
If you haven't registered your copyright you can only recover actual damages, no punitive damages and no legal fees.
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I think the global warming crowd is forgetting one thing: the biggest determinant of the climate on Earth is caused by this thermonuclear fireball about 93,000,000 miles away called the Sun.
Yes, I think you should call up NOAA RIGHT NOW and tell them that all those scientists they employ have forgotten about the sun.
I'm sure that will cause a few snickers at their next friday night beer bash.
According to the original Global Warning theory, the Earth's temperature is higher than it's ever been due to the influence of technology (greenhouse gasses).
... no. What else can an informed person say?
Ummm
The way I heard this is that the melting ice will significantly decrease salt concentration. This is related (can't remember if it's cause or effect) to a slowing down of the entire system of oceanic currents and submarine rivers, essentially fucking everything up.
Cold water moves south at depth as the Gulf Stream moves north on the surface. This is driven by cold water sinking up north somewhere near Greenland??? I forget the geography to be honest. Anyway if the salinity drops significantly, the water won't be as dense, we'll see the flow of cold water southward diminish, and possibly the counterflow of warm water north also diminish.
That's a rough sketch. Oceanographers from the UK have seaborne evidence that this slowing of the cold water component is underway.
The big unknown is how large a change is necessary to cause a breakdown or significant change in the operation of the whole circulation system that's responsible for the Gulf Stream.
As I understand it, that is.
No, the models aren't crap. The models continue to be improved as our understanding of physical processes increases, but that doesn't make them crap. The models fit observed data very well these days.
And of course the fact that you in essence claim that models show global warming so administrators can ask for more money is idiotic.
It was also said that the toxic output of this blast contained nearly a thousand times the ozone depleting chemicals that humans have created since the Industrial Revolution.
While it is kind of you to post information based on real science, is there any particular reason you chose not to continue on to point out that very, very little of those chemicals made it to the stratosphere, where ozone depletion reactions take place?
It wouldn't be due to any particular political bias on your part, would it?
Yeah, your right. Everyone who doubts the human impact on global warming must be ignorant. How can they believe a Shell study when there is so much other literature from Greenpeace out there. The results are so obvious that Greenpeace doesn't even need to do research!
Well, you're displaying your ignorance by suggesting that skeptism is justified because Greenpeace publicizes the research results of a very large body of scientists.
That every global warming prediction scientists have made in the last 30 years has fallen flat on its face.
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This is simply false
You have evidence that says that global warming has been caused by human activity? I haven't seen any.
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Don't blame us if you haven't been looking. Since you invoke the "junk science" mantra, I think we can safely presume you get your science from sites like junkscience.com and don't bother reading what actual climatologists, including skeptics, have to say.
Skeptics like Singer and Christy have had to backpedal a great deal in the last two-three years
Your personal beliefs are meaningless. The overwhelming amount of data measured and interpreted by scientists is meaningful.
False premise. No one argues that "every little thing man does" will "derail" the earth's climate cycle. The consensus opinion among climatologists today is that a handful of global-scale actitivites are contributing to measured global warming.
Actually you have that backwards
This speed, along with compass bearing and important changes in weather, was then recorded on a "log board" in chalk. At a change in watch, the new officer of the deck would consult the "log board" to get a snapshot of how the ship was sailing. Periodically the "log board", along with the Captain's comment, would be copied into the "log book" - and, there you are!
Knots, logs, log book
No, not all database systems need to do VACUUMing. PG needs to do it because it uses a non-overwriting storage manager. Oracle and InnoDB both overwrite old rows with new data when you do UPDATE rather than create a new row while leaving the old data behind. This involves more complex monkey-motion with transaction logs because transactions that need to see the old data must read from the log rather than data file.
I'm a big PG fan - PG and Oracle are the two RDBMS's I use professionally - but let's get the facts right, eh?
More on the The Oregon Petition:
When questioned in 1998, OISM's Arthur Robinson admitted that only 2,100 signers of the Oregon Petition had identified themselves as physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, or meteorologists, "and of those the greatest number are physicists." The names of the signers are available on the OISM's website, but without listing any institutional affiliations or even city of residence, making it very difficult to determine their credentials or even whether they exist at all. When the Oregon Petition first circulated, in fact, environmental activists successfully added the names of several fictional characters and celebrities to the list, including John Grisham, Michael J. Fox, Drs. Frank Burns, B. J. Honeycutt, and Benjamin Pierce (from the TV show M*A*S*H), an individual by the name of "Dr. Red Wine," and Geraldine Halliwell, formerly known as pop singer Ginger Spice of the Spice Girls. Halliwell's field of scientific specialization was listed as "biology."
Not really true. The moon, for instance, is the same distance from the sun as the earth and somewhat cooler, if you haven't noticed.
That's because there's a considerable difference between the atmosphere of earth and the atmosphere of the moon.
And there's a considerable difference between the atmosphere of venus and earth's, and venus is hotter than one expects simply due to its nearer distance to the sun.
Not to mention the petition was circulated with somewhat misleading collateral material:
"The Oregon Petition, sponsored by the OISM, was circulated in April 1998 in a bulk mailing to tens of thousands of U.S. scientists. In addition to the petition, the mailing included what appeared to be a reprint of a scientific paper. Authored by OISM's Arthur B. Robinson and three other people, the paper was titled "Environmental Effects of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide" and was printed in the same typeface and format as the official Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. A cover note from Frederick Seitz, who had served as president of the NAS in the 1960s, added to the impression that Robinson's paper was an official publication of the academy's peer-reviewed journal."
Rebuttal one:
That's not what the petition says. It says there's not evidence of CATASTROPHIC change, and that such change might be good for us, anyway. Signing the petition does not necessarily indicate a belief that there's no evidence for man-made global warming (though it is cleverly worded to convince folks like you that it does).
Rebuttal two:
The opinion of scientists outside a particular technical field's not that relevant. What is relevant is that even leading skeptics like John Christy have come 'round to having to say that climate change is real, and at least partially due to human activities. He was on the NAS committee, drawn up at Bush's request to (he hoped) say "global warming's not real", and signed the unanimous statement to the contrary the committee put forth.
Rebuttal three:
Not all the signatories are scientists. Even a casual scan shows a lot of MDs, who may or may not be doing research. There are lots of PhD's, of course, but they're not tagged with the holder's academic field (why would I care what a PhD in Forestry thinks about climate change? I want to know what climatologists think about it)
You're absolutely wrong. The software engineering literature was littered with academic musings on the writing of secure multi-user, multi-tasking OSes. Actually the Unix model is less sophisticated than (say) Multics, which preceeded it.
For starters, kluge was a German General in WWII. I believe you're thinking of a "kludge".
More importantly, NT/2K/XP were certainly designed and not a quick and dirty rip-off of CP/M. Designed by a team led by the leader of the team who designed VMS for Digital.
Do keep in mind that at major papers like the Post reporters don't write the headlines. Just as they don't decide where their story will run (or if it will run), how big the type used for the head will be, whether or not there will be a subhead, etc.
So don't ding the reporter for the slightly misleading headline. Sounds like the reporter got it right in the part he or she wrote - the article.
Coming from the great Pacific Northwest, home of our country's best coffee ... the assertion that the best coffee is brewsed at about 90 C is bullshit. Optimium brewing temperatures are considerably lower.
You should *never* brew with boiling water, that's for damned sure. If you're in the woods and worried about giardia - boil then let the water cool 20 C before brewing.
McDonald's negligence was cut and dried, documented themselves in fall-on-your-sword fashion. The decision was a no-brainer for the jury, which was smart enough to assign 20% responsibility to the plaintiff, BTW.
Which is why she was held 20% at fault by the jury.
McDonald's had all sorts of problems in the lawsuit, including the fact that it was shown that they had prior knowledge of the fact that their coffee was being served hot enough to cause serious injury, that they serve it hotter than is standard in the fast food industry, etc.
I've rewired a house - which is normally legal if you get the proper inspections done - but to rewire a business property as you suggest? That's insanely foolish for many, many reasons, starting with the fact that the poster will be violating local law in most cases, voiding fire insurance, exposing themselves to full liability etc etc.
Mains power can certainly kill. If enough current is flowing to your body to affect your heart it is quite likely to start fibrillating, and to stay in that state even after the source of current is removed.
...
Very high voltages tend to cause your heart to clamp tightly rather than fibrillate, and if it doesn't kill you outright your heart is far more likely to restart on its own or respond to CPR
It's the friggin' *law* in most jurisdictions to get a licensed electrician to do this work, and for very good reason.
In a facility I ran years ago I smelled smoke in our main distribution panel. Called our electrician and he *immediately* turned white, got out of there dragging me with him, closing the door to the small power distribution room behind him and immediately went to the building's main distribution breakers next to the elevator shaft on the bottom floor and turned off all power to our floor.
Why? He'd seen the insulation bubbling on the aluminum power cable that was connected to the main copper bus for the breaker box.
It had been connected without anti-oxidation gel and the aluminum had oxidized increasing resistance to the point where the insulation was near burning.
He told me that an electrician had been killed earlier in the year when a suburban shopping mall's main panel blew up as he was inspecting it, after having been called in during the wee hours of the night by the fire department after a report of smoke had been called in.
If the original poster's company doesn't own the building then the landlord can be forced to pay, just call in the friggin' city electrical inspector and after he shits his pants your building owner will be paying to rewire the box ASAP.
Denmark is very flat ... Christiana's even flatter except for the old fortress embankments that surround it and other areas on that side of Denmark.
In places like Copenhagen and Amsterdam old one speed cruisers with hub brakes are the rule, not the exception.
No, you don't have to register your copyright in order to sue over copyright infringement. The fact that your work is copyrighted by law when you first create it would be useless if this were the case.
... registration of copyright proves that the work was created before the infringement occured and - very important - opens the possibility of treble punitive damages and recovery of legal fees.
However
If you haven't registered your copyright you can only recover actual damages, no punitive damages and no legal fees.