Well congratulations, the US isn't quite as bad a Nazi Germany was under the control of a crazed dictator. I guess you deserve an award for that ?
Anyway I don't think joining in at the end of a couple wars really gives you any right to comment on European matters so kindly STFU about what the Europeans choose to do with Galileo.
Perhaps it might be easier for you to use this analogy.
In the Christian belief system it is believed that our Saviour The Lord God Jesus Christ is the creator of everything and a divine being with a deep love of each and every one of us. Other, heretical, religions have different, wrong, gods and some even split up the many tasks The Lord Jesus Christ is capable of performing into seperate deities. But ultimately, if it helps the heretics come into christs fold you could imagine that all these different beliefs are simply different views of the same mountain. Each believer finds his or her own path but ultimately the destination is the same.
In this way it can be seen that although there may be many analogies they are in fact One In The Lord and can be used equally even if the car analogies may seem truer and more righteous from an individual viewpoint.
Thats true but most companies designing web sites are aiming for the majority of people who do have modern connections. I can't see it should be all that hard to also provide text only versions but it's only sites which need to be accessible to almost everyone that do actually do this.
Who would have thought it, now most people have always on, fast broadband internet web designers are less concerned about page size.
I would like to see more stripped down text only pages ( like the BBC has ) on web pages but otherwise I'm perfectly happy with this and don't see any need to handicap web developers just because some luddities out in the sticks somewhere haven't got a faster connection yet.
Bang on, technology provided the means for this whole business to thrive in the first place and now technology has changed and can take it all away again.
There has always been music, humans like music and it's never going to go away so if 'artists' can't make money using current technology then they need to stop trying, the world doesn't owe them a living, and do something else. Other music will come in to fill the gap and match up with the new technology. In short music is important, 'artists' or particular performers aren't and their marketing and manufacturing businesses definitely aren't important on any fundamental level.
That is one point of view but there are others which could be considered when talking about the RIAA and their ilk.
You're a hard working man and in the evenings you like a drink at your local. A couple of evenings a week some travelling musicians might come in and play you a few songs, some old classics and maybe one or two of their own and if you like it you might throw some money in their hat, since you can play a fiddle and your mate can play the tambourine you and your mates might have your own sing song on other nights of the week and if you liked one of the songs the band played you might sing a couple of theirs. The next week you drop by the pub you find it's been closed down and the landlord is facing massive fines for not having some sort of 'licence' for your sing song, he informs you the enforcers mentioned your name and said they'd be around to see you shortly. When they turn up, before they club to the ground and steal all your money, it turns out they're not even employed by the band at all but just printed out some of their promotional flyers but they're story is they now own all the music you and your mates like to sing in the pub.
Or how about this.
There's this new thing called the moving picture show you're read about in the scientific press and it looks to you like a good little money earner so you get yourself a camera and some actors and start to make some movies. Things go well and your movies are popular, you're making money. Next day some bloke turns up and says you need to pay him to use his movie technology, you need to pay him a lot but rather than doing that you skip town and move to a place called Hollywood at the other side of the country where you can use his equipment to make your movies and not pay this bloke a single cent.
Or later
His nephew hears about this new thing called cable which can let people watch more shows in their houses then ever before, he sets up a business installing cable to peoples houses and pumps in programs from conventional operators, the people love it, he makes lots of money. Next day some bloke turns up and points out it's illegal to just take peoples shows and put them on cable without paying for them and now he owes them all his money. The law changes and it turns out he doesn't owe them a thing.
I live in Europe too and whilst there is general disgust at the whole WMD/Iraq nonsense in general America still comes just below France on the ridicule scale, much like it always has done.
The best covers album in the world ( ever ) is Flibbiddydibbiddydob by Snuff featuring timeless classics like "They're Tasty Tasty... - The Bran Flakes Advert", "You can't get quicker than a quick fit fitter" and "Do the Shake & Vac, put the freshness back".
Also some other good covers of proper songs like "In Sickness & In Health", "Hazy Shade Of Winter" and the best one "Do Nothing". And City Baby Attacked By Rats.
If this is what people actually believe then I really am amazed !
Why would Noah turn all the other people in boats away from his giant floating raft ? Why would they listen to what he had to say and not just turn pirates and capture his Ark and it's giant kilometres long food containment areas and the thousands of billions of mega litres of fresh water necessary for feeding and watering the billions of creatures on board. All the fishermen on the boats would surely have just attacked the ark and easily taken it over where they would have lived on the animals in lives of luxury until the year was up.
Also if you're saying that the on the one hand the flood is too stormy for professional fishermen to launch boats in how can you also claim that it's millpond calm so the ark doesn't have to be at all seaworthy. That just doesn't make sense and is clearly another massive hole in 'theory'.
Don't you think it's unlikely that it was only Noahs Ark which was able to survive this flood ? No doubt it will have occured to you that thousands of other communities across the globe possessed competent boat building skills and that they would surely have taken to these boats once the fountains of the deep began to fountain. What evidence have you found that proves this didn't happen and hundreds of thousands of accomplished sea farers and fishermen were killed in the flood when a lecherous and violent old drunk with no seamanship skills whatsoever was able to survive in a completely untested and unfeasibly large boat with the additional complications of keeping his mobile zoo in order ?
Does it ? I suspect you are guilty of only paying heed to the opinions of those in whom believe rather than the evidence of those with whom you disagree.
I second that, it has been really frustrating wading through 3 pages of the generic crap we have all heard hundreds of times before before getting to any interesting comments on the actual subject.
If you saying it was only a small local flood, explain the fact that sedimentary rock and fossils are found on every continent, including Antarctica. This is also the case for even the highest mountains on earth, such as Mt. Everest.
Hmmmm, almost all early human populations lived as near to water as they could, rivers, lakes, the sea etc and from time to time it can happen that rivers flood, lakes flood or natural dams break and at sea there can be large storms, storm surges and tsunamis so its entirely likely that almost all societies were affected by flooding to some degree at some time.
I wonder if there is an alternative explanation for widespread sedimentary rock and fossils, one thats more plausible than some evil sicko from space somehow building enough "fountains of the deep" to flood the entire world except for some lecherous old drunk for whom the evil sky sicko has fashioned a Tardis like raft and helped, in between Noahs whoring and boozing, round up all the animals on Earth and get them into this mystical Tardis Raft. I wonder if there is any theory more plausible or supported with evidence than that ?
I don't know what this Prime Dircetive actually says but if it's something along the lines of
1) Subjugate and conquer any species you encounter against which you can prevail with military might. 2) Use diplomacy and survelliance/espionage techinques to undermine any species against whom you are not guaranteed to prevail to bring about their downfall and leave you in control of their resources. 3) Attempt to avoid or form favourable alliances with anything you come across which is stronger than you. 4)... 5) Profit
I agree, I find all this whining extremely irritating. If they have something to say about the actual post they should say it or otherwise shut up. Jackasses.
I find the best meats are that are cut when the animal is experiencing real pain and fear, I think scientifically it's to do with the blood flow and hormones or whatever released in these extreme situations but whatever it is it definitely makes the meat taste better and once you've tried it it's hard to go back.
In order to reproduce this you'd also probably need to grow at least a part of the animals brain in the lab which may not be possible in the short term. In the long term though I see definite possibilities if it's possible to also grow an eye so the animal can see it's just a horrid deformed blob in a test tube and you can show it livestock torture videos and the like so the meat grows in a state of constant terror and agony.
It seems that the normal geologic methods we've studied for finding oil: surface analysis, satellite imagery, gravity meters, magnetometers, sniffers, seismology, etc. would be best.
You ought to be able to do better by using the predictions you get from understanding flood geology or simply be reading in your bible as to where most of this matter was converted in oil. Failing that simply praying would surely be by far the most accurate method of finding oil wouldn't it ? I mean it doesn't get much more accurate than the direct Word Of The Lord does it, he is surely the ultimate last word on the subject and it surely would be strange indeed if he decided not to answer your prayers when you were setting up this religiously powered company to bring glory to His name and supply the world with a vital resource He has provided to power Churches to do Glory to His Name. In fact being as he is All Powerful it's hard to see why he wouldn't just deliver the diesal direct to your SUVs fuel tank if it would give you more time to smite sinners and Give Glory To His Greatness.
I'm sure any true scientist would immediately consider any theory of intelligent design if was as testable and supported by evidence as their current theory of evolution is. Sadly it is absolutely nowhere near this standard and more in the realm of idle speculation.
You'd think if God wanted intelligent design to be accepted by the scientific community he'd simply write out the complete theory on a bunch of stone tablets and have them magically delivered to the top of a mountain or something. The fact that he hasn't done this is clear proof we are not meant to take ID seriously.
Science lessons are science lessons and should not concern themselves with things which are not scientific. Otherwise why, having spent all term teaching the students about Gravity, wouldn't you mention that there is an old lady living around the corner from the school who thinks it all works with velcro or that the mad old drunk child abusing tramp who lives under the bridge thinks that gravity fails to work after 11 bottles of Sherry. If it doesn't have a scientific basis, and ID doesn't, then don't teach it in science.
I can't see any reason at all the average person would have for owning a high powered laser pointing device. That being the case the best solution is to ban them unless you have a licence. If this were the case then those people would not have had access to a device, wouldn't have tried to blind any pilots and wouldn't be criminals.
Your solution involves a lengthy and costly search for the criminals, arrest, expensive court proceedings and long jail terms also at the taxpayers expense. All the while other groups of people will be able to do exactly the same thing and start the process again.
There is something seriously wrong when an organisation charged with upholding the law and maintaining the moral society in which we all want to live feels it's acceptable to lie and cheat simply in order to grab more powers for its self.
I can perfectly understand the agents desire for greater powers; "I know this guys a crook so why do I have to jump through all these damn hoops just to lock him away" but there should be leadership from the top which balances these needs with the needs of society and it's here the problem seems to lie with an administration unconcerned with the needs of the society and over focussed on 'improving' it's own machinery.
I seriously hope the next US President is able to take charge of his apparatus properly and put it use for everyones good rather than fulfilling some dubious goals of your own because as I think we can clearly see now the wrong people in the Whitehouse can produce all sorts of nasty and counter productive behaviour even in areas they aren't directly interested in.
I wouldn't say there was anywhere near enough evidence at the moment that the ship builders did anything wrong at all, first of all how sure are the scientists that the majority of the rivets on the ship had this flaw, how do they know they haven't been looking at rivets from some non saftey critical component, how do can they even prove the rivets are from the Titanic and aren't a consigment of bad rivets someone dumped at sea. Basically there seems to be an awful lot of unknowns which wouldn't provide any conclusive proof in a court.
The other thing to consider is the level of technology available over 100 years ago. Maybe all ships were built with similar rivets, maybe this was an accepted standard back then or maybe they didn't have the necessary tools to monitor the quality of rivets or maybe the rivets have been affected by lying under the sea for 100 years.
Basically the Titanic sank because it hit an Iceburg, even with the best rivets in the world the only likely outcome of that event is the ship sinking.
And lastly there is no one still working for Harland & Wolf who was involved with building Titanic, they don't even build ships anymore and there are either no survivors left or very very few of them who were affected.
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Well congratulations, the US isn't quite as bad a Nazi Germany was under the control of a crazed dictator. I guess you deserve an award for that ?
Anyway I don't think joining in at the end of a couple wars really gives you any right to comment on European matters so kindly STFU about what the Europeans choose to do with Galileo.
Crumbs, these Americans are a right bunch of whingers.
Perhaps it might be easier for you to use this analogy.
In the Christian belief system it is believed that our Saviour The Lord God Jesus Christ is the creator of everything and a divine being with a deep love of each and every one of us. Other, heretical, religions have different, wrong, gods and some even split up the many tasks The Lord Jesus Christ is capable of performing into seperate deities. But ultimately, if it helps the heretics come into christs fold you could imagine that all these different beliefs are simply different views of the same mountain. Each believer finds his or her own path but ultimately the destination is the same.
In this way it can be seen that although there may be many analogies they are in fact One In The Lord and can be used equally even if the car analogies may seem truer and more righteous from an individual viewpoint.
Thats true but most companies designing web sites are aiming for the majority of people who do have modern connections. I can't see it should be all that hard to also provide text only versions but it's only sites which need to be accessible to almost everyone that do actually do this.
Who would have thought it, now most people have always on, fast broadband internet web designers are less concerned about page size.
I would like to see more stripped down text only pages ( like the BBC has ) on web pages but otherwise I'm perfectly happy with this and don't see any need to handicap web developers just because some luddities out in the sticks somewhere haven't got a faster connection yet.
Bang on, technology provided the means for this whole business to thrive in the first place and now technology has changed and can take it all away again.
There has always been music, humans like music and it's never going to go away so if 'artists' can't make money using current technology then they need to stop trying, the world doesn't owe them a living, and do something else. Other music will come in to fill the gap and match up with the new technology. In short music is important, 'artists' or particular performers aren't and their marketing and manufacturing businesses definitely aren't important on any fundamental level.
That is one point of view but there are others which could be considered when talking about the RIAA and their ilk.
You're a hard working man and in the evenings you like a drink at your local. A couple of evenings a week some travelling musicians might come in and play you a few songs, some old classics and maybe one or two of their own and if you like it you might throw some money in their hat, since you can play a fiddle and your mate can play the tambourine you and your mates might have your own sing song on other nights of the week and if you liked one of the songs the band played you might sing a couple of theirs. The next week you drop by the pub you find it's been closed down and the landlord is facing massive fines for not having some sort of 'licence' for your sing song, he informs you the enforcers mentioned your name and said they'd be around to see you shortly. When they turn up, before they club to the ground and steal all your money, it turns out they're not even employed by the band at all but just printed out some of their promotional flyers but they're story is they now own all the music you and your mates like to sing in the pub.
Or how about this.
There's this new thing called the moving picture show you're read about in the scientific press and it looks to you like a good little money earner so you get yourself a camera and some actors and start to make some movies. Things go well and your movies are popular, you're making money. Next day some bloke turns up and says you need to pay him to use his movie technology, you need to pay him a lot but rather than doing that you skip town and move to a place called Hollywood at the other side of the country where you can use his equipment to make your movies and not pay this bloke a single cent.
Or later
His nephew hears about this new thing called cable which can let people watch more shows in their houses then ever before, he sets up a business installing cable to peoples houses and pumps in programs from conventional operators, the people love it, he makes lots of money. Next day some bloke turns up and points out it's illegal to just take peoples shows and put them on cable without paying for them and now he owes them all his money. The law changes and it turns out he doesn't owe them a thing.
Maybe it's just you that elicits this reaction ?
I live in Europe too and whilst there is general disgust at the whole WMD/Iraq nonsense in general America still comes just below France on the ridicule scale, much like it always has done.
The best covers album in the world ( ever ) is Flibbiddydibbiddydob by Snuff featuring timeless classics like "They're Tasty Tasty... - The Bran Flakes Advert", "You can't get quicker than a quick fit fitter" and "Do the Shake & Vac, put the freshness back".
Also some other good covers of proper songs like "In Sickness & In Health", "Hazy Shade Of Winter" and the best one "Do Nothing". And City Baby Attacked By Rats.
If this is what people actually believe then I really am amazed !
Why would Noah turn all the other people in boats away from his giant floating raft ? Why would they listen to what he had to say and not just turn pirates and capture his Ark and it's giant kilometres long food containment areas and the thousands of billions of mega litres of fresh water necessary for feeding and watering the billions of creatures on board. All the fishermen on the boats would surely have just attacked the ark and easily taken it over where they would have lived on the animals in lives of luxury until the year was up.
Also if you're saying that the on the one hand the flood is too stormy for professional fishermen to launch boats in how can you also claim that it's millpond calm so the ark doesn't have to be at all seaworthy. That just doesn't make sense and is clearly another massive hole in 'theory'.
I also meant to mention this...
Don't you think it's unlikely that it was only Noahs Ark which was able to survive this flood ? No doubt it will have occured to you that thousands of other communities across the globe possessed competent boat building skills and that they would surely have taken to these boats once the fountains of the deep began to fountain. What evidence have you found that proves this didn't happen and hundreds of thousands of accomplished sea farers and fishermen were killed in the flood when a lecherous and violent old drunk with no seamanship skills whatsoever was able to survive in a completely untested and unfeasibly large boat with the additional complications of keeping his mobile zoo in order ?
Does it ? I suspect you are guilty of only paying heed to the opinions of those in whom believe rather than the evidence of those with whom you disagree.
I second that, it has been really frustrating wading through 3 pages of the generic crap we have all heard hundreds of times before before getting to any interesting comments on the actual subject.
No Cthulhu my friend, oh no. The D-I - V - I-L, the divil. Bass.
Hmmmm, almost all early human populations lived as near to water as they could, rivers, lakes, the sea etc and from time to time it can happen that rivers flood, lakes flood or natural dams break and at sea there can be large storms, storm surges and tsunamis so its entirely likely that almost all societies were affected by flooding to some degree at some time.
I wonder if there is an alternative explanation for widespread sedimentary rock and fossils, one thats more plausible than some evil sicko from space somehow building enough "fountains of the deep" to flood the entire world except for some lecherous old drunk for whom the evil sky sicko has fashioned a Tardis like raft and helped, in between Noahs whoring and boozing, round up all the animals on Earth and get them into this mystical Tardis Raft. I wonder if there is any theory more plausible or supported with evidence than that ?
I don't know what this Prime Dircetive actually says but if it's something along the lines of
...
1) Subjugate and conquer any species you encounter against which you can prevail with military might.
2) Use diplomacy and survelliance/espionage techinques to undermine any species against whom you are not guaranteed to prevail to bring about their downfall and leave you in control of their resources.
3) Attempt to avoid or form favourable alliances with anything you come across which is stronger than you.
4)
5) Profit
I agree, I find all this whining extremely irritating. If they have something to say about the actual post they should say it or otherwise shut up. Jackasses.
I find the best meats are that are cut when the animal is experiencing real pain and fear, I think scientifically it's to do with the blood flow and hormones or whatever released in these extreme situations but whatever it is it definitely makes the meat taste better and once you've tried it it's hard to go back.
In order to reproduce this you'd also probably need to grow at least a part of the animals brain in the lab which may not be possible in the short term. In the long term though I see definite possibilities if it's possible to also grow an eye so the animal can see it's just a horrid deformed blob in a test tube and you can show it livestock torture videos and the like so the meat grows in a state of constant terror and agony.
You ought to be able to do better by using the predictions you get from understanding flood geology or simply be reading in your bible as to where most of this matter was converted in oil. Failing that simply praying would surely be by far the most accurate method of finding oil wouldn't it ? I mean it doesn't get much more accurate than the direct Word Of The Lord does it, he is surely the ultimate last word on the subject and it surely would be strange indeed if he decided not to answer your prayers when you were setting up this religiously powered company to bring glory to His name and supply the world with a vital resource He has provided to power Churches to do Glory to His Name. In fact being as he is All Powerful it's hard to see why he wouldn't just deliver the diesal direct to your SUVs fuel tank if it would give you more time to smite sinners and Give Glory To His Greatness.
I'm sure any true scientist would immediately consider any theory of intelligent design if was as testable and supported by evidence as their current theory of evolution is. Sadly it is absolutely nowhere near this standard and more in the realm of idle speculation.
You'd think if God wanted intelligent design to be accepted by the scientific community he'd simply write out the complete theory on a bunch of stone tablets and have them magically delivered to the top of a mountain or something. The fact that he hasn't done this is clear proof we are not meant to take ID seriously.
Science lessons are science lessons and should not concern themselves with things which are not scientific. Otherwise why, having spent all term teaching the students about Gravity, wouldn't you mention that there is an old lady living around the corner from the school who thinks it all works with velcro or that the mad old drunk child abusing tramp who lives under the bridge thinks that gravity fails to work after 11 bottles of Sherry. If it doesn't have a scientific basis, and ID doesn't, then don't teach it in science.
I can't see any reason at all the average person would have for owning a high powered laser pointing device. That being the case the best solution is to ban them unless you have a licence. If this were the case then those people would not have had access to a device, wouldn't have tried to blind any pilots and wouldn't be criminals.
Your solution involves a lengthy and costly search for the criminals, arrest, expensive court proceedings and long jail terms also at the taxpayers expense. All the while other groups of people will be able to do exactly the same thing and start the process again.
Banning them is much the better solution.
There is something seriously wrong when an organisation charged with upholding the law and maintaining the moral society in which we all want to live feels it's acceptable to lie and cheat simply in order to grab more powers for its self.
I can perfectly understand the agents desire for greater powers; "I know this guys a crook so why do I have to jump through all these damn hoops just to lock him away" but there should be leadership from the top which balances these needs with the needs of society and it's here the problem seems to lie with an administration unconcerned with the needs of the society and over focussed on 'improving' it's own machinery.
I seriously hope the next US President is able to take charge of his apparatus properly and put it use for everyones good rather than fulfilling some dubious goals of your own because as I think we can clearly see now the wrong people in the Whitehouse can produce all sorts of nasty and counter productive behaviour even in areas they aren't directly interested in.
I wouldn't say there was anywhere near enough evidence at the moment that the ship builders did anything wrong at all, first of all how sure are the scientists that the majority of the rivets on the ship had this flaw, how do they know they haven't been looking at rivets from some non saftey critical component, how do can they even prove the rivets are from the Titanic and aren't a consigment of bad rivets someone dumped at sea. Basically there seems to be an awful lot of unknowns which wouldn't provide any conclusive proof in a court.
The other thing to consider is the level of technology available over 100 years ago. Maybe all ships were built with similar rivets, maybe this was an accepted standard back then or maybe they didn't have the necessary tools to monitor the quality of rivets or maybe the rivets have been affected by lying under the sea for 100 years.
Basically the Titanic sank because it hit an Iceburg, even with the best rivets in the world the only likely outcome of that event is the ship sinking.
And lastly there is no one still working for Harland & Wolf who was involved with building Titanic, they don't even build ships anymore and there are either no survivors left or very very few of them who were affected.
Dumbass the Titanic was built in Norn' Ireland