I don't think there's much point in doing that especially since they don't actually really build ships anymore but if you did want to hold them responsible for the actual crash you should also hold them responsible/reward them for all the money generated by the sinking over the years.
Not really, it's more like being so willing to believe absolutely anything at all so you become party to the cool, forbidden and secret truth of the universe that you suspend all critical facilities and engage in any number of convuluted justifications for why your particular conspiracy isn't total nonsense.
True but as someone once said you don't want to keep such an open mind that your brain falls out which would appear to be a necessary pre-condition for the vast majority of popular conspiracies.
Reading the previous posts linked to you said your figure of 1 cable cut a year was a well sourced figure even when it was pointed out how remarkably unlikley that was.
So to the question of were you right, almost certainly not - regardless of how good you may be at maths.
Au contraire, there's plenty of room to either build more roads or increase the size of the existing ones in Birmingham, a good example of them doing exactly that is the new route round the back of Selly Oak through a vast swathe of what were allotments and general wasteland to take the pressure of the Bristol Road and they most definitely could have built both more and bigger roads when the redid the Bull Ring but instead they seem to have devised some system which basically just crashes and reaches gridlock the moment there is any sort of incident on the A38.
Ideally yes, fewer cars is also a good solution but it's just not going to work if investments is not made in alternative methods of transport. Since the government refueses to make those investments - there is a perfectly good railway going from my house into town with, currently derelict, stations and everything on it which is simply not used - then cars are the only option and they should build the infrastructre to support the volume of cars they have.
That is the exact island I used to run into problems on, when they redid the Bull Ring traffic would queue up on the James Watt Queensway all the way from Digbeth which would then stop the buses getting out of Corporation Street and jam up the centre of town which would then stop the traffic trying to go down New Town Row which would then jam the A38 and bring everything around that island to a total gridlock.
This sounds like a sensible idea but if it becomes widespread then the metrics it has used for it's monitoring of the traffic conditions are going to change as people choose new routes based on it's suggestions with the upshot that previously clear routes are now congested.
My own journey to work changes based on the time I leave the house and my local knowledge of the area and problme junctions so I can normally make my way down side streets and 'rat runs' without encountering much traffic. The last thing I want is for anyone else to be told these routes and start to clog them up. It is amazing though the difference it can make if you take what is in theory a slightly longer route to get around stupidly placed roundabouts or congested main roads.
I guess ultimately if people had a perfect knowledge of the traffic situation the congestion would even out so everywhere is just congested at rush hour rather than extremely congested but the basic problem, in the UK at least, is that there just aren't enough roads. Here in Birmingham during the recent building work in the city centre there were some traffic conditions which would just lead inevitably to total gridlock as jams backed up across islands causing more jams which looped all the way around town to hold up the traffic in the original jam even more. We just need more roads.
I think the article was about Australian producers so when you say it mentions nothing about reduced yields perhaps you should instead try and find out what the current state of Australian agriculture is.
I suspect, because obviously I haven't bothered checking myself, that crop yields might be close to catastrophically low at the moment due to a never ending drought/severe flooding.
I agree they say they have this magical thing called faith but I don't think that's exactly an argument for anything it's more to do with sticking your hands over your ears and refusing to hear any arguments which they don't like.
There is no evidence at all for the existance of any god never mind a specific type of one There isn't now and never has been any evidence for any type of god like entity There is nothing at all which requires anything like any sort of god like entity for us to understand it
At least unicorns would be a sort of an animal and we do know that animals exist whereas we have never seen any evidence for, never seen any examples of, never seen any hints of any sort of god like being at all and until we do the argument as to whether "he" exists or not is totally pointless because "he" obviously doesn't in the real world, only in the demented minds of the terminally deluded.
Which is ironic since the only argument anyone can put forward for a specific sort of god consists entirely of quoting other people and no, it's not very convicing at all.
Also his smug assumption that if the ISPs don't reach a voluntary agreement that he'll simply have laws drawn up to compel them is quite sickening. Why should the trials of a group of music publicists be afforded so much attention and deference ?
I'm amazed it's taken this long before any of the ISPs have spoken out, any sort of policing at all is quite clearly not their job and the very second they begin to take an interest in the content they are transmitting, the second that happens they are going to monitoring and reporting everything to everyone and responsible for all manner of disasters and tragedies when the overwhelming technical impossibility of what they're being asked to do causes something to go wrong.
Any special interest group worried about a particular activity on the internet will want the ISP to ban it, ever media craze will lead to more things being banned and the ISP carrying the can for policing it, any government dept looking for some quick headlines will get them to report ( for example ) anyone talking about benefit fraud in chat rooms to the benefit agency.
Today Jaqui Smith, some brainless minister in the British government, is suggesting ( yet again ) that all paedophiles should register their e-mail addresses with the police and not be allowed to register on chat rooms with those addresses. She says she is in discussions with ISPs to police this. She is too stupid to realise what she is asking for and too moronic to understand palming her inability to convict people and lock them up should not be palmed off onto commercial entities who have no business whatsover doing her policing for her.
In this case what I was really trying to say is that I think it's a bad idea for people to live in their own little enclaves seperated from other groups who although they live nearby there is no social interaction with.
As we are seeing now in the UK in places like Bradford and Birmingham it doesn't take much for entire communities to be at each throats because even though they live in a small area close to each other there are no shared values or experiences and through a lack of positive interaction a feeling mutal distrust and animosity has developed. This situation is only likely to be magnified by rich gated communities occupied by paranoid gun wielding weekend warriors in close vicinity to poorer areas with a large number of armed criminals.
If you are genuinely living somewhere where there is a good chance that if you don't have 24/7 armed guards you or your family will be raped and murdered, somewhere like Afghanistan for example, then you clearly have very serious problems with your country and are most likely totally fucked. Otherwise the more decent law abiding people there are living in a particular area exerting their influence the harder it is for criminal socities to flourish which is why I'm arguing that by hiding away in armed enclaves rather than standing up for decency and good behaviour out on the streets is a somewhat cowardly course of action.
Clearly you're going to have to be very brave to move you, your family, or your business into a gangland ghetto but instead other forces can be brought into play which cause this to happen, in the UK house prices are forcing lots of young professional couples into areas which are currently considered to be a bit dodgy and planning laws can be used to ensure lower cost housing is spread out in otherwise affluent neighbourhoods.
Some people will always be criminals, crime will always occur and some people will always suffer by it but by over reacting now, doing nothing to tackle the problem and cutting yourself off from reality is definitely not going to do anything to help in the long term except polarise communities even more until something cracks and the rioting starts.
I want the cops out there finding violent criminals and putting rapists behind bars, not harassing kids for skateboarding at the Lincoln Monument.
Yes I'd like that too but the cops are not the sole guardians of society and just as they have a role to play in their capacity as paid public servants to keep the peace everyone else has a role to play in their capacity as a member of society.
Annexing yourself off from society to whoop it up with your privileged friends behind layers of armed security does nothing at all to improve society generally and is a cowardly abdication of responsibility for which their children and their childrens children will not thank them.
If they were living in Afghanistan then they would probably be sensible to live in such a well defended community but in the US it's just a ridiculous affection of the rich who are so paranoid and out of touch with the real world they prefer to hide themselves away and give up on their responsibilities to society at large. Certainly it is one way of life but in my opinion quite a cowardly one.
Are you Mr Xaviar, Mr Francis Xaviar of Mile End Road, London ?
Just need to check because that looked like one of the secret code words I am supposed to be watching out for, anyway if that is you Francis ( there is a code word for this somewhere but I think it's in the basement somewhere so I'll just give you the gist ) the "materials", you know what I mean eh - one ends the barrel and they're "easily triggered", anyway the "materials" will be loaded onto the Builders Merchants truck which will then be parked on Lincoln Street, outside the curry house ( quite a nice one actually I have an account there the food is delicious ) where you can go and "steal it". The keys will above the wheel. Usual time, tomorrow 11:25AM.
Remember, absolute secrecy is required. One false word and all will be blown.
Yours,
Commander Jaun Gravy
PS, this e-mail system of yours is great. All that nonsensical spam you fill it with is bound to throw off the man if he comes a looking. Good work.
Its strange that the link for what looks to be a highly informative photo documentary exploring the life and characters of Swedish nightclubs seems to be broken.
I wouldn't have thought Swedish nightclubs held all that many attractions for basement dwelling./ folk, especially since not many actually live in Sweden.
Same here, I built a little media centre thing last week with MythTV. I was expecting to have enormous trouble configuring X for the TV - to the extent where I had spent a while setting up dual screen, lugging a monitor down to near the TV to trouble shoot, scanning the web for mode line info about the TV etc. As it turned out I plugged in the HDMI cable, restarted X and it configured its self perfectly. Nvidia had detected it was a Panasonic LCD and got everything it needed to make it work.
I was very impressed since 7 or 8 years ago when I started off with Linux it took 3 days to get X to work properly with my monitor.
...that would let the ISPs stop worrying about their legal responsibilities for file-sharing while contributing to a pool of money (potentially up to $20 billion per year) that would be distributed amongst the music industry.
What legal responsibilities ? So far as I'm aware the ISPs have no legal responsibility for what is carried over their networks so this is simply an attempt to extort 'tax' from anyone they think they have a chance of bullying. I really hope the ISPs get themselves some representation to put their side of the argument against all this nonsense coming from the media industries. Last month it was the fantastic plan whereby the BPI told an ISP one of their customers had downloaded something illegal and before you could say Jack Robinson they expected the ISP to terminate the customers contract and ban them from accessing all ISPs.
In fact, as reported by The Guardian yesterday, both the music and movie industries are doing very well at the moment with boths sales and revenue on the increase.
Looking at it your way you're going to be out of work in anyway in the 5 or 10 years it takes it finish writing all the code. Once it's all written the entire programming community is going to be out of a job and on the street.
I suppose there may just be some, slight, hope if once the main code is all done the companies were to find other areas they could make improvements in and perhaps these improvements could be coded somehow ?
Really ? So given the lengths the US goes to around the world to ensure other countries cannot develop this sort of technology themselves you think shipping ready made components randomly around the world is a total non event !
Look at the huge amount of pressure the US exerts on the likes of Iran and North Korea to stop them developing this sort of thing to judge how important this really is.
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I don't think there's much point in doing that especially since they don't actually really build ships anymore but if you did want to hold them responsible for the actual crash you should also hold them responsible/reward them for all the money generated by the sinking over the years.
Not really, it's more like being so willing to believe absolutely anything at all so you become party to the cool, forbidden and secret truth of the universe that you suspend all critical facilities and engage in any number of convuluted justifications for why your particular conspiracy isn't total nonsense.
True but as someone once said you don't want to keep such an open mind that your brain falls out which would appear to be a necessary pre-condition for the vast majority of popular conspiracies.
Reading the previous posts linked to you said your figure of 1 cable cut a year was a well sourced figure even when it was pointed out how remarkably unlikley that was.
So to the question of were you right, almost certainly not - regardless of how good you may be at maths.
Au contraire, there's plenty of room to either build more roads or increase the size of the existing ones in Birmingham, a good example of them doing exactly that is the new route round the back of Selly Oak through a vast swathe of what were allotments and general wasteland to take the pressure of the Bristol Road and they most definitely could have built both more and bigger roads when the redid the Bull Ring but instead they seem to have devised some system which basically just crashes and reaches gridlock the moment there is any sort of incident on the A38.
Ideally yes, fewer cars is also a good solution but it's just not going to work if investments is not made in alternative methods of transport. Since the government refueses to make those investments - there is a perfectly good railway going from my house into town with, currently derelict, stations and everything on it which is simply not used - then cars are the only option and they should build the infrastructre to support the volume of cars they have.
That is the exact island I used to run into problems on, when they redid the Bull Ring traffic would queue up on the James Watt Queensway all the way from Digbeth which would then stop the buses getting out of Corporation Street and jam up the centre of town which would then stop the traffic trying to go down New Town Row which would then jam the A38 and bring everything around that island to a total gridlock.
This sounds like a sensible idea but if it becomes widespread then the metrics it has used for it's monitoring of the traffic conditions are going to change as people choose new routes based on it's suggestions with the upshot that previously clear routes are now congested.
My own journey to work changes based on the time I leave the house and my local knowledge of the area and problme junctions so I can normally make my way down side streets and 'rat runs' without encountering much traffic. The last thing I want is for anyone else to be told these routes and start to clog them up. It is amazing though the difference it can make if you take what is in theory a slightly longer route to get around stupidly placed roundabouts or congested main roads.
I guess ultimately if people had a perfect knowledge of the traffic situation the congestion would even out so everywhere is just congested at rush hour rather than extremely congested but the basic problem, in the UK at least, is that there just aren't enough roads. Here in Birmingham during the recent building work in the city centre there were some traffic conditions which would just lead inevitably to total gridlock as jams backed up across islands causing more jams which looped all the way around town to hold up the traffic in the original jam even more. We just need more roads.
I think the article was about Australian producers so when you say it mentions nothing about reduced yields perhaps you should instead try and find out what the current state of Australian agriculture is.
I suspect, because obviously I haven't bothered checking myself, that crop yields might be close to catastrophically low at the moment due to a never ending drought/severe flooding.
I agree they say they have this magical thing called faith but I don't think that's exactly an argument for anything it's more to do with sticking your hands over your ears and refusing to hear any arguments which they don't like.
Listen.
There is no evidence at all for the existance of any god never mind a specific type of one
There isn't now and never has been any evidence for any type of god like entity
There is nothing at all which requires anything like any sort of god like entity for us to understand it
At least unicorns would be a sort of an animal and we do know that animals exist whereas we have never seen any evidence for, never seen any examples of, never seen any hints of any sort of god like being at all and until we do the argument as to whether "he" exists or not is totally pointless because "he" obviously doesn't in the real world, only in the demented minds of the terminally deluded.
Maybe but it's still complete and utter nonsense regardless of how many stories people have made up over the years.
Which is ironic since the only argument anyone can put forward for a specific sort of god consists entirely of quoting other people and no, it's not very convicing at all.
Also his smug assumption that if the ISPs don't reach a voluntary agreement that he'll simply have laws drawn up to compel them is quite sickening. Why should the trials of a group of music publicists be afforded so much attention and deference ?
I'm amazed it's taken this long before any of the ISPs have spoken out, any sort of policing at all is quite clearly not their job and the very second they begin to take an interest in the content they are transmitting, the second that happens they are going to monitoring and reporting everything to everyone and responsible for all manner of disasters and tragedies when the overwhelming technical impossibility of what they're being asked to do causes something to go wrong.
Any special interest group worried about a particular activity on the internet will want the ISP to ban it, ever media craze will lead to more things being banned and the ISP carrying the can for policing it, any government dept looking for some quick headlines will get them to report ( for example ) anyone talking about benefit fraud in chat rooms to the benefit agency.
Today Jaqui Smith, some brainless minister in the British government, is suggesting ( yet again ) that all paedophiles should register their e-mail addresses with the police and not be allowed to register on chat rooms with those addresses. She says she is in discussions with ISPs to police this. She is too stupid to realise what she is asking for and too moronic to understand palming her inability to convict people and lock them up should not be palmed off onto commercial entities who have no business whatsover doing her policing for her.
In this case what I was really trying to say is that I think it's a bad idea for people to live in their own little enclaves seperated from other groups who although they live nearby there is no social interaction with.
As we are seeing now in the UK in places like Bradford and Birmingham it doesn't take much for entire communities to be at each throats because even though they live in a small area close to each other there are no shared values or experiences and through a lack of positive interaction a feeling mutal distrust and animosity has developed. This situation is only likely to be magnified by rich gated communities occupied by paranoid gun wielding weekend warriors in close vicinity to poorer areas with a large number of armed criminals.
If you are genuinely living somewhere where there is a good chance that if you don't have 24/7 armed guards you or your family will be raped and murdered, somewhere like Afghanistan for example, then you clearly have very serious problems with your country and are most likely totally fucked. Otherwise the more decent law abiding people there are living in a particular area exerting their influence the harder it is for criminal socities to flourish which is why I'm arguing that by hiding away in armed enclaves rather than standing up for decency and good behaviour out on the streets is a somewhat cowardly course of action.
Clearly you're going to have to be very brave to move you, your family, or your business into a gangland ghetto but instead other forces can be brought into play which cause this to happen, in the UK house prices are forcing lots of young professional couples into areas which are currently considered to be a bit dodgy and planning laws can be used to ensure lower cost housing is spread out in otherwise affluent neighbourhoods.
Some people will always be criminals, crime will always occur and some people will always suffer by it but by over reacting now, doing nothing to tackle the problem and cutting yourself off from reality is definitely not going to do anything to help in the long term except polarise communities even more until something cracks and the rioting starts.
Yes I'd like that too but the cops are not the sole guardians of society and just as they have a role to play in their capacity as paid public servants to keep the peace everyone else has a role to play in their capacity as a member of society.
Annexing yourself off from society to whoop it up with your privileged friends behind layers of armed security does nothing at all to improve society generally and is a cowardly abdication of responsibility for which their children and their childrens children will not thank them.
Where are your friends living, Afghanistan ?
If they were living in Afghanistan then they would probably be sensible to live in such a well defended community but in the US it's just a ridiculous affection of the rich who are so paranoid and out of touch with the real world they prefer to hide themselves away and give up on their responsibilities to society at large. Certainly it is one way of life but in my opinion quite a cowardly one.
Are you Mr Xaviar, Mr Francis Xaviar of Mile End Road, London ?
Just need to check because that looked like one of the secret code words I am supposed to be watching out for, anyway if that is you Francis ( there is a code word for this somewhere but I think it's in the basement somewhere so I'll just give you the gist ) the "materials", you know what I mean eh - one ends the barrel and they're "easily triggered", anyway the "materials" will be loaded onto the Builders Merchants truck which will then be parked on Lincoln Street, outside the curry house ( quite a nice one actually I have an account there the food is delicious ) where you can go and "steal it". The keys will above the wheel. Usual time, tomorrow 11:25AM.
Remember, absolute secrecy is required. One false word and all will be blown.
Yours,
Commander Jaun Gravy
PS, this e-mail system of yours is great. All that nonsensical spam you fill it with is bound to throw off the man if he comes a looking. Good work.
Its strange that the link for what looks to be a highly informative photo documentary exploring the life and characters of Swedish nightclubs seems to be broken.
./ folk, especially since not many actually live in Sweden.
I wouldn't have thought Swedish nightclubs held all that many attractions for basement dwelling
Same here, I built a little media centre thing last week with MythTV. I was expecting to have enormous trouble configuring X for the TV - to the extent where I had spent a while setting up dual screen, lugging a monitor down to near the TV to trouble shoot, scanning the web for mode line info about the TV etc. As it turned out I plugged in the HDMI cable, restarted X and it configured its self perfectly. Nvidia had detected it was a Panasonic LCD and got everything it needed to make it work.
I was very impressed since 7 or 8 years ago when I started off with Linux it took 3 days to get X to work properly with my monitor.
What legal responsibilities ? So far as I'm aware the ISPs have no legal responsibility for what is carried over their networks so this is simply an attempt to extort 'tax' from anyone they think they have a chance of bullying. I really hope the ISPs get themselves some representation to put their side of the argument against all this nonsense coming from the media industries. Last month it was the fantastic plan whereby the BPI told an ISP one of their customers had downloaded something illegal and before you could say Jack Robinson they expected the ISP to terminate the customers contract and ban them from accessing all ISPs.
In fact, as reported by The Guardian yesterday, both the music and movie industries are doing very well at the moment with boths sales and revenue on the increase.
It might do if you really are Easy E and The E-zee Posse but I'm not sure that necassarily follows for the rest of us !
Looking at it your way you're going to be out of work in anyway in the 5 or 10 years it takes it finish writing all the code. Once it's all written the entire programming community is going to be out of a job and on the street.
I suppose there may just be some, slight, hope if once the main code is all done the companies were to find other areas they could make improvements in and perhaps these improvements could be coded somehow ?
Really ? So given the lengths the US goes to around the world to ensure other countries cannot develop this sort of technology themselves you think shipping ready made components randomly around the world is a total non event !
Look at the huge amount of pressure the US exerts on the likes of Iran and North Korea to stop them developing this sort of thing to judge how important this really is.
I think it may have been better to write that it's actually both rather than it's actually two.