It might be infringing to *illegally* reproduce a work in copies, i.e. without the consent of the copyright holder however it's not illegal to make copies of works with the copyright owners consent.
If as Allofmp3.com say they have a bought from the copyright owners a licence which allows them to distribute copies of their works then it cannot be illegal can it ?
If the copyright owners didn't negotiate any terms into their licence which prevents allofmp3.com doing this then that is their lookout and if, as is likely, the licence terms are dictated by some kind of Russian law then they have the option not to distribue in Russia.
Well why isn't it legal ? I can buy CD's from Amazon and I can buy MP3's from allofmp3.com. They are a legitimate company and I am a legitimate customer.
If it turns out that Amazon are stealing the CD's they send me would I be liable for anything ? What's the difference with allofmp3.com ?
I think that's exactly the point, why should such a large % of the profits from the music industry find their way to one or two talentless puppets whilst everyone else starves ?
In actual fact they do need to pay a licence for the music they let you download, however this licence is obviously very cheap which is why they can offer music at such a low price but presumably some of this licence fee will filter down through the music companies to the artists eventually. When the artists take the music company to court to get it for example.
There is nothing at all illegal or immoral about this. Why should Russians care whether or not foreign artists get paid or not for their work ? I can't see any reason why they would.
Personally I think it's a great service, if I like bands I go and see them live, buy their T-Shirts and tell everyone I know how great they are and I really don't see why I should go out of my way to fund the next "Pop Stars" talent search.
Even comments like "Loop over the elements of the array" are pointless. If whoever is reading it can't see that immediately then pretty much any explanation isn't going to help them.
What is important is to say why you are looping over the elements of the array, how does that fit into the bigger picture, which I think is what you are saying at the end of your comment as well.
My Gosh, the terrorists have even planned for that though ! I think it is one of their terrorist training manuals...
"If the mountain won't go to Mohammed then Mohammed must go to the mountain"
To be fair though I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to pay for this convience ( I certainly would ) because it is just so... convienent.
As regards security I can't see how it would be any more or less secure than any other wireless network and if it is only offering the opportunity to add new music or delete the existing music then in a worst case scenario all you'd have to do is park your car and download all your songs again.
This would be such an obvious and useful piece of functionality it's really annoying it's not available yet.
I think it's very irresponsible reporting on what is, in effect, a large bomb in the heart of America. Using these news articles it would be perfectly possible for me, and any evil muslim terrorists, to find my way to this device and maybe find a way of using it in a terrorist atrocity.
I would hope all./'s would join me and petition the US government to "For gods sake keep the location of these massively dangerous feature of the landscape out of the hands of terrorists and their locations secret". All scientific research on these evil weapons of terror should cease immediately and recognition of Mt St Helens as a Volcano should immeditely result in lengthy prison sentence in some off shore detention facility.
What is he, some kind of super accident ghoul ? Not satisfied with slowing down to watch motorway slayings he takes holidays in war zones to watch car bombs and troops and civilians fighting it out ?
I would really like to see him "showing you around...[fallujah, baghdad etc]". Who the f does he think he is, f in Moses ?
Yeah, it's a pain in the neck. It didn't used to take too long at all to get in and out of Birmingham Airport but I bet that thanks to those stupid reporters you will be stopped and annoyed every step of the way.
"United Kingdom, which, you'll note, is a different country"
Oh dear, you lost me there I'm afraid. The old folks around here tell me that back in the day that was the case but nowadays we are just another state of the USA.
An interesting program last night about our actions toward the inhabitants of Diego Garcia just emphasised that point even further.
It's interesting that articles about government corruption and torture etc are considered to be something only the left is interested in. I agree that probably is the case, it's just interesting.
Consider an ACD system such as Aspect, this kind of thing can do all the things you want but it does do it a, fairly large, price. Most ACD's can cope with all kinds of different circuits and have additional servers you can buy to allow them to do VoIP as well. Fairly soon I imagine they will do VoIP as standard.
No one is saying that VoIP is going to replace the existing general phone service anytime soon.
PBX's are devices to route external calls coming into them into a companies own internal telephony network, since most companies also have established data networks it does make sense to use VoIP to route calls over the data network instead since it means they don't have to pay for the upkeep of two distinct networks. Also the reliability and availability of either system is down to the investment in and management of the network, whilst VoIP is still relatively new it may be harder to support but the companies will already know how reliable their data networks are, how much downtime they suffer etc and if they are sensible they will ensure this is on a par with reliability of their existing PBX systems before they even consider any kind of switch.
The company I used to work for used to receive tons of glossy brochures every day explaining how VoIP would revolutionise our business so we did look into replacing all our PBX's etc since we did have a big network between all our offices anyway.
In the end though we concluded that since we already all the infrastructure in place for the telecomms and since we suffered outages and problems with this system orders of magnitude less often than we did with the data network it would be too risky and not cost effective.
The main advantages were consolidating on a single network and saving the expense of investing in and supporting two networks and the savings on the cost of calls routed across BT/C&W etc between sites and renting lines off them. However since VoIP is still fairly new technology from a support point of view and best practices etc are still being worked out it was too risky and too expensive.
Yeah, I hadn't actually read the article when I just posted. Now I have and it looks like Renault have as much chance of being in the wrong as the driver does so an impartial inspection would have been a better way to go.
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There's a big difference, Dope is illegal in the US and you are specifically not allowed to import it.
Music is not illegal in the US. It is perfectly legal to bring music into the US.
"as we've been discussing"
I think you meant say "As I have been stridently claiming and everyone else has been disagreeing with"
It might be infringing to *illegally* reproduce a work in copies, i.e. without the consent of the copyright holder however it's not illegal to make copies of works with the copyright owners consent.
If as Allofmp3.com say they have a bought from the copyright owners a licence which allows them to distribute copies of their works then it cannot be illegal can it ?
If the copyright owners didn't negotiate any terms into their licence which prevents allofmp3.com doing this then that is their lookout and if, as is likely, the licence terms are dictated by some kind of Russian law then they have the option not to distribue in Russia.
Well why isn't it legal ? I can buy CD's from Amazon and I can buy MP3's from allofmp3.com. They are a legitimate company and I am a legitimate customer.
If it turns out that Amazon are stealing the CD's they send me would I be liable for anything ? What's the difference with allofmp3.com ?
I think that's exactly the point, why should such a large % of the profits from the music industry find their way to one or two talentless puppets whilst everyone else starves ?
In actual fact they do need to pay a licence for the music they let you download, however this licence is obviously very cheap which is why they can offer music at such a low price but presumably some of this licence fee will filter down through the music companies to the artists eventually. When the artists take the music company to court to get it for example.
There is nothing at all illegal or immoral about this. Why should Russians care whether or not foreign artists get paid or not for their work ? I can't see any reason why they would.
Personally I think it's a great service, if I like bands I go and see them live, buy their T-Shirts and tell everyone I know how great they are and I really don't see why I should go out of my way to fund the next "Pop Stars" talent search.
Even comments like "Loop over the elements of the array" are pointless. If whoever is reading it can't see that immediately then pretty much any explanation isn't going to help them.
What is important is to say why you are looping over the elements of the array, how does that fit into the bigger picture, which I think is what you are saying at the end of your comment as well.
I think the obvious answer for a well balanced life is do the pimping and dealing yourself, make some money into the bargain.
My Gosh, the terrorists have even planned for that though ! I think it is one of their terrorist training manuals... "If the mountain won't go to Mohammed then Mohammed must go to the mountain"
It's surprising that iRiver manages to sell so many of them in the US then isn't it. Can you guess why that might be ?
To be fair though I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to pay for this convience ( I certainly would ) because it is just so ... convienent.
As regards security I can't see how it would be any more or less secure than any other wireless network and if it is only offering the opportunity to add new music or delete the existing music then in a worst case scenario all you'd have to do is park your car and download all your songs again.
This would be such an obvious and useful piece of functionality it's really annoying it's not available yet.
The thing is that every country is NOT equal so applying the same rules to everyone would benefit some and damage others.
I think it's very irresponsible reporting on what is, in effect, a large bomb in the heart of America. Using these news articles it would be perfectly possible for me, and any evil muslim terrorists, to find my way to this device and maybe find a way of using it in a terrorist atrocity.
./'s would join me and petition the US government to "For gods sake keep the location of these massively dangerous feature of the landscape out of the hands of terrorists and their locations secret". All scientific research on these evil weapons of terror should cease immediately and recognition of Mt St Helens as a Volcano should immeditely result in lengthy prison sentence in some off shore detention facility.
I would hope all
What is he, some kind of super accident ghoul ? Not satisfied with slowing down to watch motorway slayings he takes holidays in war zones to watch car bombs and troops and civilians fighting it out ?
I would really like to see him "showing you around...[fallujah, baghdad etc]". Who the f does he think he is, f in Moses ?
Yeah, it's a pain in the neck. It didn't used to take too long at all to get in and out of Birmingham Airport but I bet that thanks to those stupid reporters you will be stopped and annoyed every step of the way.
Flamebait ? C'mon that's an amusing a comment as I ever have written.
"...being anti-American is cool..."
Heh, heh. You mean throughout the rest of the planet ?
( yes i realise that is equally as flamebaity as the parent. please mod me accordingly )
"United Kingdom, which, you'll note, is a different country"
Oh dear, you lost me there I'm afraid. The old folks around here tell me that back in the day that was the case but nowadays we are just another state of the USA.
An interesting program last night about our actions toward the inhabitants of Diego Garcia just emphasised that point even further.
It's interesting that articles about government corruption and torture etc are considered to be something only the left is interested in. I agree that probably is the case, it's just interesting.
So it's all good then, or something - maybe ? I'm confused.
I think it just means that in every six people you will find one idiot.
Consider an ACD system such as Aspect, this kind of thing can do all the things you want but it does do it a, fairly large, price. Most ACD's can cope with all kinds of different circuits and have additional servers you can buy to allow them to do VoIP as well. Fairly soon I imagine they will do VoIP as standard.
No one is saying that VoIP is going to replace the existing general phone service anytime soon.
PBX's are devices to route external calls coming into them into a companies own internal telephony network, since most companies also have established data networks it does make sense to use VoIP to route calls over the data network instead since it means they don't have to pay for the upkeep of two distinct networks. Also the reliability and availability of either system is down to the investment in and management of the network, whilst VoIP is still relatively new it may be harder to support but the companies will already know how reliable their data networks are, how much downtime they suffer etc and if they are sensible they will ensure this is on a par with reliability of their existing PBX systems before they even consider any kind of switch.
The company I used to work for used to receive tons of glossy brochures every day explaining how VoIP would revolutionise our business so we did look into replacing all our PBX's etc since we did have a big network between all our offices anyway.
In the end though we concluded that since we already all the infrastructure in place for the telecomms and since we suffered outages and problems with this system orders of magnitude less often than we did with the data network it would be too risky and not cost effective.
The main advantages were consolidating on a single network and saving the expense of investing in and supporting two networks and the savings on the cost of calls routed across BT/C&W etc between sites and renting lines off them. However since VoIP is still fairly new technology from a support point of view and best practices etc are still being worked out it was too risky and too expensive.
Yeah, I hadn't actually read the article when I just posted. Now I have and it looks like Renault have as much chance of being in the wrong as the driver does so an impartial inspection would have been a better way to go.