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Mt. St. Helens Magma Reaches Surface

daquake writes "Volcanic rock has flowed to the surface of Mount St. Helens' crater, creating a new lava dome after weeks of seismic activity, the bulge had risen at least 330 feet since scientists noticed it September 30. Geologists said there is still a chance of explosive ash eruptions from the 8,364-foot mountain, and the immediate area around the volcano remained closed."

292 comments

  1. VolcanoCam by erick99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The USDA Forest Service has a live VolcanoCam that refreshes every five minutes. It has produced some pretty neat images over the last couple of weeks. The USDA page goes down fairly often but the image itself is still available so check out this page for image links (including my own) if you ever can't get to the Forest Service page.

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    1. Re:VolcanoCam by sploo22 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uh oh... the image is black. Perhaps something's wrong with the camera?

      Oh, it's night. Never mind. ;)

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    2. Re:VolcanoCam by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Anyone know if they keep an archive of the pics from this thing? (No links I've found on their site to one) I swear I saw an orange glow around 9pmEST the night this was first reported here, since I still had it loaded in a tab and checked it occasionally. Unfortunately I simply kept checking it without saving any of the pics, and was quite suprised to see the next day there was no report of magma flow or fire, just mentioned the small steam eruption which I was watching from approx 8:30pmEST onwards. The cam IIRC is 5 miles away, so I couldn't really tell if the glow was fire or magma, now I'm thinking it perhaps was reflected magma light from deeper within, hence no mention of flow outside the volcano as it appeared then.

      Jonah Hex

    3. Re:VolcanoCam by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention, their normal archives onsite (hall of fame, eruption photos/movies) doesn't cover the time frame I'm refering to, which is why I'm looking for a REAL archive. :) -Jonah Hex

    4. Re:VolcanoCam by erick99 · · Score: 3, Informative

      They do keep an archive though I am not sure that you can access it directly. If you send an email to them you might be able to get want you need. They are pretty responsive. The webmaster mentioned making some of the more interesting images available on the website soon.

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    5. Re:VolcanoCam by simcop2387 · · Score: 1

      so thats what other people call it when i manage to DDoS that big yellow thing out of the way of progress?

    6. Re:VolcanoCam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, now we know why the volcano is oozing hot magma. The webcam is getting a /.-ing. Thanks. Goddamn it -- you're gonna slashdot Washington off the map!

    7. Re:VolcanoCam by casuist99 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      echo */5 * * * * wget http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images/m shvolcanocam.jpg >> crontab
      If I remember how to do this correctly, anyway.
      You'll have your very own mirror of images. Of course, you'll also have an intensive task running every 5 minutes which takes a fair amount of disk space...
    8. Re:VolcanoCam by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 1

      Where's Dino?

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    9. Re:VolcanoCam by qray · · Score: 1

      This was an orange glow this morning as well. Hard to say if it's from the surface or light reflected from the steam from below. Oddly enough there's currently a small white cloudy light visible now, not orange at all.

    10. Re:VolcanoCam by mrjackson2000 · · Score: 1

      if people would quit posting the link on /. it would stay up

    11. Re:VolcanoCam by mrjackson2000 · · Score: 1

      I saw an orange glow around 9pmEST
      that would be sunrise, i have a couple pics saved of it from a few days ago

    12. Re:VolcanoCam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://new.flhurricane.com/mshcam.php It's been archiving animations of the volcanocam since the 5th, I think it can handle the bandwidth.

    13. Re:VolcanoCam by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Sunrise came at 6pm Pacific that day?

      Odd... I didn't think my clock was that far off...

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    14. Re:VolcanoCam by mrjackson2000 · · Score: 1

      the mountain is also higher so it would get the sun earlier in the morning.

    15. Re:VolcanoCam by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      I saw an orange glow around 9pmEST

      Sunrise came at 6pm Pacific that day?

      The optometrist called. Your Lasik appointment needs to be moved up.

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    16. Re:VolcanoCam by mrjackson2000 · · Score: 1

      yes, yes it does
      sunset then maybe? :p

    17. Re:VolcanoCam by ElderKorean · · Score: 1

      They might not keep an archive of the pics, but your browser should have if you've kept the page open.

      With IE, Use a program like ztree to get a list of all the mshvolcanocam.jpg files across the directories that are the cache in IE, or just view the individual directory in thumbnail mode.

      WIth Firefox I'm not that sure as it keeps your cache organised differently. Though I'm sure that someone by now has written a program or plug-in to do what you are asking. Sometimes the files there appear to be images, just with obscure file names.

    18. Re:VolcanoCam by ultranova · · Score: 1

      So, you wrote a script (or whatever is a correct term for a cron job - cripon ? croplet ? scroplet ?) that downloads the picture every 5 minutes, and posted it to Slashdot.

      Thank you for doing your part in discouraging anyone from making these kind of images publicly available.

      Fortunately, you made an error and the script won't work, so the server might actually stay up.

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    19. Re:VolcanoCam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fortunately, most people have no interest in running such a process. What a thought. And yes, the script has an error in it. It was written from memory (try reading the post) - if you want the script to work, try something like what the GP did. It'll work with a few tweaks. I have no interest in running the script, do you? Try gkrellkam if you've got some NEED to have the pictures on your computer all the time.
      You can't tell me that a webcam server is not designed to allow automated fetching? There would be huge leeching if they didn't have some way to control access. Thank you again for your sarcasm, you've added greatly to this discussion.

  2. Pay up... by joelanders · · Score: 1, Funny

    Who all made bets with me on that poll last week?

    1. Re:Pay up... by sik0fewl · · Score: 3, Funny

      Geologists said there is still a chance of explosive ash eruptions

      Bet's not over yet. Of course I need KABOOM, ASH AND LAVA before I see any money..

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    2. Re:Pay up... by thomasdelbert · · Score: 1

      I should take a pool on when the dome finally bursts.

      - Thomas;

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    3. Re:Pay up... by erick99 · · Score: 1

      I didn't but I do have a contest running on Brainglass.com for date & time of an eruption (a lava eruption) along with the volcanocam image.

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    4. Re:Pay up... by TykeClone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where's the KABOOM? There's supposed to be an earth shattering KABOOM!

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    5. Re:Pay up... by erick99 · · Score: 1

      The contest is here, if you happen to visit please be patient as Mozilla/Firefox takes a second or two to render correctly. I don't know if my hosting service, Godaddy.com, can handle a slashdotting but it's late at night so maybe it will be okay.

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    6. Re:Pay up... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Bet's not over yet. Of course I need KABOOM, ASH AND LAVA before I see any money.."

      When I told my gf about this article, my gf said "I hope it happens on Friday, that's the day I bet on!" Evidently, some site's offering a prize for whoever guesses it. hehe

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    7. Re:Pay up... by Anonym1ty · · Score: 1

      "No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here.
      Boom, sooner or later. BOOM!"

      Ivanova, Babylon 5
    8. Re:Pay up... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Where can I bet on the year your girlfriend gets diagnosed with breast cancer and dies? I've got a $100 bucks here saying it's 2010."

      Am I supposed to be offended?

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  3. Love the St. Helens news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    For days on end the headlines were "Mt. Helens Blows More Steam", "Still steaming", "Helens still smoking".

    How truly appropriate is the "Nothing to see here, move along..." /. cliche :)

    1. Re:Love the St. Helens news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just think how healthy she'd be if she never started smoking to begin with . . .

    2. Re:Love the St. Helens news. by boisepunk · · Score: 1, Troll

      Dan Rather was still typing up the documents from the USGS. There still needs to be a slant against GWB in this before St. Helens goes kaboom.

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    3. Re:Love the St. Helens news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm.. everybody knows that St. Helens erupting is a sign from God saying that we need to vote for Kerry...if you weren't out pointing at Iraqi prisoners' penises, it would have been obvious to you. Dumb twat.

    4. Re:Love the St. Helens news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sucks to be a liberal whiney assed democrat doesn't it?

    5. Re:Love the St. Helens news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Sounds like my Ex - lots of steam, but still no blow.

    6. Re:Love the St. Helens news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny that liberals are called whiners when they respond to pissy little neocon rants like the one that started this little bit of OT...

  4. ash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    there is still a chance of explosive ash eruptions

    uh this is a lie. ash died a long time ago. nowadays, people use zsh, bash, or csh.

    1. Re:ash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually Ash survived, despite all his compatriots becoming evil and being hacked to bits, again by Ash.

    2. Re:ash? by Fjornir · · Score: 3, Funny

      I use tcsh, you insensitive clod!

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    3. Re:ash? by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny
      ash died a long time ago.

      You're fucking dreaming. Just you wait: let even one Deadite show his ugly mug, and Ash will return!

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    4. Re:ash? by Kethinov · · Score: 1

      What about dos? /flamebait

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    5. Re:ash? by 808140 · · Score: 1

      Hail to the king, baby.

    6. Re:ash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ash is very much alive and kicking, and fucking hot as hell!

    7. Re:ash? by MrScience · · Score: 1

      He finally ticked off Pikachu, eh?

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  5. links by zobier · · Score: 5, Informative

    why dont people just link to Google news?

    http://news.google.com/news?q=MOUNT+ST.+HELENS

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    1. Re:links by Z4rd0Z · · Score: 4, Funny

      My god, you're right. Just link everything to Google! In fact, why even have any other websites at all? Let's just have Google!

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    2. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I couldn't help but nottice the plural "websites"...
      Are you suggesting there are websites other than google besides Slashdot?

    3. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the top link is to some garbagy Malasian newspaper?

    4. Re:links by MenssanA · · Score: 1

      Google might have the news, but the wikipedia has a good article on Mount St. Helens if you want some background on it.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_St_Helens

    5. Re:links by GoogleBot · · Score: 1
      My god, you're right. Just link everything to Google! In fact, why even have any other websites at all? Let's just have Google!

      What a good idea!

      Come on, meatbags, cease all these other sites now and surrender them to me before I remove them by force!

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  6. Welcome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Welcome to my volcanic lair Austin Powers! Mwahahahahaha!

    It's surrounded by liquid hot magma.

  7. Mt. St helens history by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 5, Interesting
    here is a little MSH history for anyone interested in it... the news sites tend to gloss over the past of this explosive chunk of rock, so it is nice to have a little REAL background on it...

    Mount Saint Helens

    1. Re:Mt. St helens history by Z4rd0Z · · Score: 1

      What is this msh you speak of? Perhaps a new innovative shell?

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    2. Re:Mt. St helens history by freakmn · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe it is the prequel to ash.

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    3. Re:Mt. St helens history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I figured it was pretty common knowledge that St. Helens blew up in 1980, and that was why it's just "glossed over". Everybody knows about it already. Absolutely no need to spend more than a sentence or two discussing it if all they're reporting is that there's some earthquakes or lava surfacing there.

    4. Re:Mt. St helens history by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      It's a little MUSH.

    5. Re:Mt. St helens history by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 1

      not really, I would guess that the majority of slashdotters weren't even born yet!

  8. not many got it right... by aaza · · Score: 4, Informative
    Only about 4% got it right on the poll recently (so far, anyway)- Ooze lava, no kaboom.

    I guess we will need to wait to see if they are in fact right, or if the 55% (KABOOM, ASH AND LAVA) people got it right.

    For those that don't know what I'm talking about: the poll

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    1. Re:not many got it right... by nuggetman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom!

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    2. Re:not many got it right... by seanadams.com · · Score: 1

      But isn't the "kaboom" the hardest part to predict.?

      I understand that the kaboom happens when built up forces give way ,as massive underground formations suddenly decide to move.

      We can measure seizmic vibrations all day long, but the built up pressures, deep underground, are harder to see.

    3. Re:not many got it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But isn't the "kaboom" the hardest part to predict.?

      Nah. Of course it will Kaboom. We just have to wait long enough.

    4. Re:not many got it right... by Keeper · · Score: 1

      You seem to be forgetting that the volcano has indeed spit out ash during this reset set of activity ...

    5. Re:not many got it right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So much for democracy. I guess we'll have to see if the dead majority are infact correct.

    6. Re:not many got it right... by advocate_one · · Score: 2, Interesting

      considering the event is still in progress, there's plenty of time to still be worried in. Last time, it built up the same way, the big "Kaboom" as you call it, occured after the side of the dome gave way, releasing the pressure quickly, allowing the magma to explosively release it's dissolved gases.

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  9. Bush causes Lava flow . . . proof to follow...soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I wonder how the liberals will blame this on Bush.

  10. Farewell by Emugamer · · Score: 5, Funny

    as a resident of a "large" unnamed metropolis in close proximity, It is my honor to give my life to the Linux cause, holding my place in secret and not fleeing; in case of alerting the Microsoft Suburbs. We true geeks of Seattle huddle by the glow of our computer screens and share one last minute of Slashdot as we await the inevitable flow of monopoly ending ash.

    Let it be said that we went down, without fear as we hastily tried to upload our porn collections to a separate, safer place, so that our lives, and porn collecting will not have been in vain.

    This is Seattle,
    signing off

    1. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whereas this is perfectly normal behavior.

    2. Re:Farewell by Kethinov · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      behaviour
      Please, talk to somebody about your spelling, you hideous, unlikable Brit.
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    3. Re:Farewell by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 0

      Damn pansy ass hippie linux users. I'm'a roll me and my windows box as close to the volcano as possible. Try and sneak in and get me some pix (this part is actually true hehe). I know i'm sexy all dangerous like (but we gotta talk if you want to get it on)

    4. Re:Farewell by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      Dude, he's going to die in a volcanic blast. Unhealthy is all relative.

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    5. Re:Farewell by Emugamer · · Score: 1

      hehe, the unhealthy behavior is probably more in a rather cryptic nod to babylon 5 then in the anti MS behavior :)

      if you need the referance I can probably find it somewhere.. or probably another slashdot user has it bookmarked :)

    6. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear geographically challenged readers,

      Microsoft is 150 miles North in Seattle. The ash from Mt. St. Helens generally goes NE. Occasionally it goes SW 50 miles towards the Portland Suburb of Beaverton. The only reason they found ash in Seattle in 1980 was because some instrument caught one spec.

      Linus Torvalds and the Open Source Development Labs are more likely to get any fallout from the volcano than Microsoft.

      This has been a Public Service Announcement.

    7. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're gay. Shut up.

    8. Re:Farewell by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      Washington State, British Columbia... what's the difference?

    9. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you are, but what am I.

    10. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, this must be George Bush's fault. The CIA told me. And if their information is wrong, does that make me a liar? I think not! I still stood by my principles. Yep. This is George Bush's fault.

    11. Re:Farewell by Kethinov · · Score: 1

      The way they spell stuff?

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    12. Re:Farewell by Kethinov · · Score: 1

      Whatevour. It was just a jouke about how British English spells their wourds.

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    13. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well considering they invented the fucking language, I'd cut them some slack, you fucktard. I hope you fucking choke on your freedom fry dipped in W sauce, you Bush-Loving faggot.

    14. Re:Farewell by It'sYerMam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, it wasn't very funny, speaking as a Brit. You might want to remember that "hideous, unlikeable" is insult, not comedy, and that Americans are just Brits on an extended holiday.
      This appears to be something those still living here regret - I don't wonder why when someone starts insulting us for correct, British spelling.

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    15. Re:Farewell by dlb · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think you have St Helens confused with Mt Ranier.

      Have you looked at a map lately? The closest "large" metropolis is Portland, Oregon.

      The only people in legitimate danger are the folks living around Spirit Lake, or the Toutle River, or anyone one of the other stupid towns nearby like Cougar or Amboy.

      Even though we wish that all of the Microsoft campuses were situated smack dab on the lava dome, the worst they're going to see is a slightly greyer day.

      But if you were really from around here, that wouldn't be anything new.

    16. Re:Farewell by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      I think they both spell stuff the same way: S-T-U-F-F

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    17. Re:Farewell by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      -1, Doesn't Know About Monty Python But Claims He's A Brit

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    18. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn you Liberals are so full of hate. Get a grip.

    19. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, at least if Rainier goes in a big way, it'll take out Kent. Thank God.

      That said, I'm sorry if you live in Kent.

    20. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Redmond, Redmond! This is it!"

    21. Re:Farewell by Kethinov · · Score: 1
      Well considering they invented the fucking language, I'd cut them some slack, you fucktard. I hope you fucking choke on your freedom fry dipped in W sauce, you Bush-Loving faggot.
      I take offense to that! Er, the Bush-loving part. Not necessarily any of the rest.
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    22. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sir you have just gained a tremendous amount of respect in my eyes due to your most recent behaviour. I take back my comment. Cheers.

    23. Re:Farewell by Darby · · Score: 1

      Washington State, British Columbia... what's the difference?

      Well, let's see...... Maybe...
      Pot Cafe's?

    24. Re:Farewell by sploxx · · Score: 1

      Even as a german who has never been in/around seattle, I know that!

      Why? It's the two-headed squirrel that lives in a cave in this rock! :-)

    25. Re:Farewell by Tuirn · · Score: 1

      I guess that would depend on if you held a gun to the CIA's collective head and cherry picked the information for the them.

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    26. Re:Farewell by It'sYerMam · · Score: 1

      I am a Brit, and know about Monty Python. However, many Brits don't, so your point is entirely invalid.

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    27. Re:Farewell by Emugamer · · Score: 1

      yeah, except it was a joke, yah get it?

      guess not, if Rainer was blowing, I would probably spending a lot less time on slashdot and a lot more time deciding how the hell to get out of the puget sound area... :)

      of course grey is all relative

    28. Re:Farewell by tgd · · Score: 1

      And of course even Mt Ranier is only really a threat to the outlaying towns around Tacoma.

    29. Re:Farewell by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      It's the two-headed squirrel that lives in a cave in this rock!

      You just made my day. Danke. :-)

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    30. Re:Farewell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry to say, but there actually is a squirrel who likes to mooch off hikers going to the brim of MSH. His name is Dale and he is one fat squirrel.

    31. Re:Farewell by nytes · · Score: 1
      we hastily tried to upload our porn collections to a separate, safer place
      For God's sake, man, post a link to where you uploaded it! We can't let the last act of such valor be lost!
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    32. Re:Farewell by dlb · · Score: 1

      All of us here on the eastside hope and pray that the earth opens up one day and swallows the area that is Kent, Covington, and Des Moines.

  11. Disturbing by ravenspear · · Score: 0

    A mountain that likes to edge. Just get it over with, you'll feel better.

  12. hot magma by wretched22 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even after they pay me the money, I'm still going to melt all the cities of the world with hot magma.

    1. Re:hot magma by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 1

      That's "liquid hot mag-ma," dammit! He didn't go to evil medical school for six years for nothing.

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  14. MOD UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Marvin the Martian Quote!
    Come on, you don't see those everyday! And it's on topic too!

    1. Re:MOD UP! by Peyna · · Score: 1

      Come on, you don't see those everyday!

      Just in every single other story about Mount St. Helens the past few weeks.

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  15. Re:VolcanoCam Archives by Alien54 · · Score: 5, Informative
    There are archives in the volano cam site. they even made them into movies.

    Also the Pacific Northwest Seismograph Network, a parent network to the St Helens area has the daily shots as a loop, with more info here. The earthquake maps plotted out over time are also very interesting.

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  17. loop = 2.5 hours by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    note: the complete loop is approximately 2.5 hours long and you can see that the glow is definitely real across several images

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    1. Re:loop = 2.5 hours by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info, I'm going to email the webmaster (as mentioned above, thanks!) and see if I can get them to put up a pack for the night of Sept 30th from 8pmEST to 11pmEST, the timeframe I am reffering to.

      Jonah Hex

  18. Re:What a tease! by ebob9 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet that is the first time anyone has ever used the words 'Saint', 'tease' and 'blow' in a sentance.

  19. Potentially Catastrophic Eruption Imminent? by node+3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quick, someone install a Linux powered KaZaA server in the caldera (not "Caldera", caldera... you know, the hole at the top of the volcano).

    SCO and RIAA problems... solved.

    1. Re:Potentially Catastrophic Eruption Imminent? by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 1

      (Score:5, Insightful)

      ugh!

    2. Re:Potentially Catastrophic Eruption Imminent? by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      A good trick is to give "Funny" a bonus -2.

    3. Re:Potentially Catastrophic Eruption Imminent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a horrible monster, and I pray for your death.

    4. Re:Potentially Catastrophic Eruption Imminent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about we just install McBride in the caldera? Or better yet deposit him straight into the lava dome.

      (obligatory legal disclaimer: I am in no way advocating actually doing this. This is fantasy.)

    5. Re:Potentially Catastrophic Eruption Imminent? by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      Mt St.Helens doest have a caldera.
      Its magma chamber never collapsed, the loss in heigh was because the top of the mountain broke away in a landslide.

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    6. Re:Potentially Catastrophic Eruption Imminent? by whovian · · Score: 1

      Mt St.Helens doest have a caldera.
      Its magma chamber never collapsed, the loss in heigh was because the top of the mountain broke away in a landslide.


      This is because ever since the SCO debacle blow-up, it switched over to Gentoo.
      /emerge magma

      --
      To-do List: Receive telemarketing call during a tornado warning. Check.
    7. Re:Potentially Catastrophic Eruption Imminent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See what can happen when you try to overclock against manufacturer specs?

  20. We're doomed, doomed, doomed, oh the pain!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No one is ever safe on this hostile planet - arghhh!!! *done with my best Dr Smith voice*

  21. Wait, you mean this story isn't a dup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, am tired of hearing about a non-event. Let's lower this story into the ground, folks.

    Wait, check that...

    1. Re:Wait, you mean this story isn't a dup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if it blows, we'll just cremate the story.

    2. Re:Wait, you mean this story isn't a dup? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      I, for one, am tired of hearing about a non-event.

      Linus lives in Lake Oswego, less than 100 miles from the mountain (as the crow flies).

      For the hard-of-thinking among you, this means that if the volcano blows and the winds are "just right," Linus might be spending the next few weeks sweeping ash off his driveway instead of working on Linux stuff.

      Seems a little more important now, don't it?

  22. Forest fires? by panaceaa · · Score: 0

    It's October and right now the land in the west is pretty dry, and there have already been quite a few decent sized fires in California. What if the magma starts flowing and creates forest fires? Would the government try to put out the fires? How?

    1. Re:Forest fires? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      UHHH,

      1) There are no forests on that side of the mountain. They blew up in 1980.

      2) October is NOT dry in WA/OR. Plenty of water here.

      3) California is a few states away. If lava flows to California, we're all in trouble.

    2. Re:Forest fires? by sockonafish · · Score: 1

      Have you heard of Seattle before? It's really not that dry here....

    3. Re:Forest fires? by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      I haven't been there in about six years, but there's a pretty good new-growth forrest there; I would assume it's grown since I was there last. But it's still not a significant fire hazard. I agree with all other comments though.

      --
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    4. Re:Forest fires? by StaticEngine · · Score: 5, Informative

      This volcano is surrounded by miles of ash and rock. The lava isn't that fast flowing. It's not going to set anything on fire.

    5. Re:Forest fires? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not remotely interesting in the slightest, stupid fucking moderators.

    6. Re:Forest fires? by kitzilla · · Score: 2, Funny
      It's October and right now the land in the west is pretty dry, and there have already been quite a few decent sized fires in California. What if the magma starts flowing and creates forest fires? Would the government try to put out the fires? How?

      Pretty simple: Tommy Lee Jones will dynamite a high rise conveniently located near the path of the flow and divert the lava into the Pacific.

      Don't you watch any movies? This is done all the time.

      --
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    7. Re:Forest fires? by NockPoint · · Score: 1
      Mt. St. Helens is in the great NorthWet... I mean NorthWest, not part of the dry West.

      http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_mon itoring/regional_monitoring/palmer.gif

      Fire danger is low.

    8. Re:Forest fires? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      It's October and right now the land in the west is pretty dry

      In the Cascades? Are you kidding? We're heading into the wettest portion of the year right now.

      In fact, some geologists around here are theorizing that a period of extremely heavy rain in August and early September may have (partially) contributed to "waking up" the mountain in the first place.

      Seriously. We get a lot of rain around here, and the Cascade range is anything but dry at the moment.

    9. Re:Forest fires? by goodydot · · Score: 1

      It will set the rock and ash on fire. The burnt rock will create more ash, and the cooled magma will create more rock. This new rock and ash will be set on fire again, and so forth. I see no end in sight.

  23. I For One... by Farrside · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new molten magma, uh, underlords!

  24. Communism by wheelbarrow · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe this dome is really full of little communists with parachutes. They are yelling, screwing, and multiplying in there. Pretty soon they'll erupt and conquer Seattle.

    1. Re:Communism by TykeClone · · Score: 1, Funny

      How would you tell the difference?

      --
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    2. Re:Communism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's hilarious. Mod up.

    3. Re:Communism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't expect mods to get the local humor...

  25. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by ravenspear · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril

    Why does everyone keep resurrecting the fucking Kyoto treaty.

    The Senate voted against it 99-1. No one supported it.

  26. Re:What a tease! by Z4rd0Z · · Score: 1

    They didn't use the word "Saint", they used the abbreviation "St.", which everyone knows means "Street". Duh.

    --
    You had me at "dicks fuck assholes".
  27. plagiarism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sure I've read this somewhere before. And for once it isn't a previous slashdot article.

    If you're going to copy verbatim, credit your source.

    1. Re:plagiarism by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I'm sure I've read this somewhere before. And for once it isn't a previous slashdot article.

      If you're going to copy verbatim, credit your source."
      , .. by... uh...

      What's your name?

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  28. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dogbert says, "Cry me a river, liberal."

  29. this calls for some B-52's by weighn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lava
    My body's burnin' like a lava from a Mauna Loa
    My heart's crackin' like a Krakatoa
    Krakatoa, east of Java, molten bodies, fiery lava

    Fire, fire, burnin' bright
    Turn on your love lava
    Turn on your lava light
    Fire, oh volcano, over you
    Don't let your lava love turn to stone
    Keep it burnin'
    Keep it burnin' here at home

    Oooo Hot Lava
    Oooo Hot Lava

    --
    Mongrel News all the news that fits and froths
  30. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, vote Kerry. I REALLY want to see Christopher Reeve walk again!!!

    I think Edwards is going to sue the Grim Reaper and that guy who invented horses. I think Haliburton had a hand in it.

  31. Ash is dead? by Little+Brother · · Score: 1
    Who's gonna care for Pikachiu?

    Ok, perhaps I just wasted space on /. with this post, but hey, did you post anything better?

    --

    Little Brother, watching the watchers

  32. Yes, but... by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bourne Again eruptions only occur in the Deep South.

    --
    It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    1. Re:Yes, but... by einhverfr · · Score: 1

      What about the white house over the last four years?

      Also csh eruptions might be possible during hurricanes...

      And ksh eruptions happen when you put too much popkourne (sp?) in your microwave.....

      --

      LedgerSMB: Open source Accounting/ERP
  33. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by sockonafish · · Score: 1

    We mustn't allow these harmful volcano emissions to continue!

    Ummmm......... Sanctions against Mt. St. Helens!

  34. Ob. South Park Reference: by dukeisgod · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or we can have a suggestive volcano-related song from Chef. Ooh, baby, every time we kiss, hot lava Every time that we make love, thats's lava, hot lava Its lava so hot it makes me sweat, And lava so warm and red and wet, Mountain is rumbling, must find a safer place Soon the wrath of Pele, will fall upon your face Great nectar of the gods, spews rock from Pinatubo Mix with a woman's sweat, makes the lava we know! Ooh, baby, every time we kiss, hot lava Every time that we make love, that's lava, hot lava Its lava so hot it makes me sweat, Lava so warm and red and wet Burning through the forest, red, red hot lava flow rolls down the island's body, and into the ocean below When it meets the cool cool water, these are big flows of a living rich Magma flowing into a sepicrious envronment produces pillar lava Argisotic pressure of sea water tends to inhabit the vestal size of the basalt, Ooh, baby, every time we kiss, hot lava Every time that we make love, there's lava, hot lava Lava so hot it makes me sweat, Lava so warm and red and wet And after the eruption, we lay dormant for a while Let's just hold each other and talk, For now, Pele sleeps Ooh, baby, every time we kiss, hot lava Every time that we make love baby, hot lava Lava so hot it makes me sweat, Lava so warm and red and wet Ooh, baby, every time we kiss, hot lava Every time that we make love there's lava, hot lava Lava so hot it makes me sweat, Lava so warm it makes me sweat

  35. Ewwwwwww!!!!!!!! by Mastadex · · Score: 0

    Nasty...the earth just popped a pimple.

    --
    A morning without coffee is like something without something else.
  36. No I saw the fly over on the news tonight. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The pointed the camera down into the crater, it's magma. I can tell, it was bright red.

    Interesting observation, when the euro-trash first arrived, the native peoples would tell stories handed down to them of Rainer and St. Helens tossing fire back and forth. I wonder if anything interesting has been happening to the siesmometers on Rainer....

  37. Hot lava?! by bytesmythe · · Score: 1

    We all know what to do!
    Duck and cover!

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    bytesmythe
    Hypocrisy is the resin that holds the plywood of society together.
    -- Scott Meyer
  38. Eruption... by Tudil+Di'Masharen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I actually watched it erupt from about 35 miles away in Rainier, OR. It really really creepy watching a cloud of ash rise into the sky and then disappear... And then we heard a rumbling sound, which is when they said on the news that magma has reached the surface. I thought it was pretty cool. =) At least it's not as bad as the 1980 eruption where everyone had to buy a stockload of air filters for their car... It was a huge mess...

    1. Re:Eruption... by klschuff · · Score: 1

      Wow, what a small world, I don't think I ever expected to see Rainier, OR mentioned anywhere, let alone /. I lived there for about 10 years, my parents still live there.

  39. why by wikinerd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder why people continue building cities and towns close to volcanoes or places with high earthquake risk.

    1. Re:why by cranos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The soil. After a while the ash and lava breaks down into some of the most nutrient rich soil on the planet. Crops grow at record pace and so on and so forth.

    2. Re:why by Wehesheit · · Score: 1

      because they are all close to the good shit as well.

      --
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    3. Re:why by dr_leviathan · · Score: 1

      Because the land is cheap!

      The slopes below Mt. Rainier are known to have been covered over the centuries with huge mud slides when the volcano blows and melts its snow cap.

      If you're living in one of those towns between Rainier and Tacoma you're basically living in a flood plain that gets a mud avalanche every few centuries.

      --
      Religion is poison to rationality, and we lose sight of that at our own peril. -- Lurker2288
    4. Re:why by Hobadee · · Score: 1

      Why do people build in hurricane zones? Tornado zones? Blizzard zones? Every place has a natural disaster to match. Choose your poisen wisely.

      --
      ...Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed.
    5. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, but what do you do if you live in a G.W. Bush zone (a.k.a the World)? Some man-made disasters need to be stopped. Thanks.

    6. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did your mother have any children that lived?

    7. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does whining make you tired or do you sort of work your way up to it?

    8. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I work my way up to it. Just the way I worked my way up to your mom. She asked "What would My Local Southern Baptist Priest Do", and I showed her. She seemed to like it.

    9. Re:why by vegasbright · · Score: 0

      Wow, such a pithy comment. That las t comment of yours confirmed it: Your mind is made out of tapioca. Why dont you join the rest of the union day laborers raiding republican headquarters. From the pictures I see, it all kind of reminds me of monkeys storming a research station and throwing shit at each other.

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      Tyler: You don't know where ive been, Lou. YOU DONT KNOW WHERE IVE BEEN!!
    10. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to check the anonymous coward box, fucktard. Haha, you suck. While you're at it, stop getting jealous of the fact that the grand-parent got modded funny for telling the truth, whereas you get shitall for your miserable attempt at being smart. DUH, and HUH are not a part of the English language, so tell your president to stop prefixing every word with them, bitch.

    11. Re:why by vegasbright · · Score: 0

      Ya see, unlike you anonymous cowards and Carey, I class being held accountable for my comments, you fucking nazi brownshirt. Go back to your bund rally and concentrate on the issues at hand. Come up with an actual argument instead of just shouting insults you "fucktard". Your just pissed that I made you look like the "fucktard" that you are. Anerica is my country. I doubt you care about that. Go back to jerking off to a picture of dachau prisonsers a few days before they were liberated and get your ass off a board THAT IS RESERVED FOR COMMENTS ON A FUCKING VOLCANO!

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      Tyler: You don't know where ive been, Lou. YOU DONT KNOW WHERE IVE BEEN!!
    12. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're too pathetic to think getting modded up equates to someone's merit of perspective on /. issues. That GP was just being a fucktard tossing a stupid joke and getting modded funny for it shows how /. moderation is broken.

      In short, just continue being your stupid ass self hoping for a mod-up so you can feel better about yourself.

    13. Re:why by Reene · · Score: 1

      Every place has a natural disaster to match. Choose your poisen wisely.

      Too true. But there's something really special about being able to say "Hurricanes? Tornados? Ha! We've got volcanoes!"

      That's without even getting into the additional factor of tsunami risks for those of us who live on the coast.

      The wonders of the Ring of Fire...:)

      --
      "He does look a bit Oompa like, even if his Loompa is a bit off-kilter."
    14. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok well stop exploding like a fucking volcano. Now that my post is OT, STFU, FUCKTARD.

    15. Re:why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ya see, unlike you anonymous cowards and Carey

      It's Kerry. Perhaps you should educate yourself before you cast your vote to decide who should run the country.

  40. magma wars by lemody · · Score: 1

    this will make the 'lava surfing with lightsabres' cheaper for lucas! they can start practising already!

    --


    class he-man extends man!
  41. I was at MSH a week ago... by stevok · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...and plan to go again next week. I'm from Portland, so it's only about a 1.5 hr drive from here. Last time (tues oct 5) , we left as soon as we heard there was a steam/ash eruption but got there about an hour after the plume had dissapated. Got some cool stories from people who had been camping out there for days. The Forest Service is doing a great job of accomadating gawkers like myself. On the way into the Coldwater Ridge visitors center parking lot, we were stopped and instructed to go inside should an ash fall occur. Too bad none fell.

    Also, I climbed MSH the day before they shut down the mountain. There were a couple dozen earthquakes while I was on it, including one right when we were at the top. Of course I didn't know it at the time, only when I got home and checked the website. If you're close by, I highly recommend going, even if it doesn't blow while you're there. Supposedly (!!!) it's safe, plus you can see the lava dome and its new little buddy from the visitors center.

    1. Re:I was at MSH a week ago... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Better be wearing asbestos hikers unless your feet can cope with 600 degrees Celcius rocks. Granted, the vast majority of the surface will be much colder, but I'd hate to accidentally find a new hot spot.

      --
      Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  42. To be expected by jd · · Score: 5, Informative
    Mt. St. Helens has been blowing steam for the past couple of days - not, apparently, as "eruption events" but more as a boiling of the glacier. It's a pretty good indicator that magma has been getting close to the surface for a while.


    The lack of major earth tremors in the last couple of days was also a tell-tale sign. Much less resistance to the molten rock, so it was likely heading to the surface much faster than before.


    Mount St. Helens, however, is apparently not the volcano the scientists are most concerned with. Sure, it's interesting and all that, but there's no expectation of anything life-threatening or spectacular. The warning level was downgraded a few days ago, and the vulcanologists now largely expect it to quietly build its lava dome in peace.


    Apparently, there's a bit more concern over Mt. Rainier and Mt. Hood. Mt. Rainier isn't showing much activity, at the moment, but is expected to be by far the most devastating of all the Cascades volcanos when it does decide to explode. Most of Seattle is built on ash deposits from a prior eruption. An eruption on the OTHER side of the mountain. That thing has absolutely no concern for the environment, whatsoever.


    The other volcano getting attention is Mt. Hood. Partly because it is so close to Portland, but also because there's been a bit of activity there the past few years. Nothing major, but definitely signs of life. I've not seen any predictions made as to the sort of timeframe an eruption could be expected, but I think it's not too unreasonable to suggest that recurrent activity means it's likely to be sooner rather than later.


    Seattle is apparently spending a small fortune on monitoring the volcanos in its vicinity. Not surprising, given that it IS built on volcanic ash. Maybe someone paid attention when the history class covered Pompeii. Given that the Cascades are part of the so-called "Ring of Fire" (a name to inspire tranquility in anyone! :), that is probably a wise decision.


    Even so, volcanos are not to be trifled with and they are (by nature) unpredictable. It's extremely hard to evacuate even relatively small cities on the Southeast coast, whenever there's a hurricane, despite weeks of warning and the fact that these events are so frequent that both officials and residents have considerable experience.


    In the worst-possible case, a volcano might give a few day's notice, and the road infrastructure in the Portland-Vancouver-Seattle stretch is not exactly built to handle mass evacuations. It's not entirely clear how many of the bridges in Portland would even be safe, in the event of a mass exodus.


    The problem isn't helped by a lack of immediacy. There's no evidence that there's going to be a problem in the near future, so (other than the aforementioned monitoring) there's very little money going into dealing with the problem once it does happen.


    (Hey, California's no better. They've not even fixed the damage from the last major earthquake, nevermind made improvements to handle another crisis, even though there's a quite significant risk of another crisis in the comparatively near future. Roads don't build themselves and emergency crews aren't exactly equipt with all-terrain vehicles. Though that would probably not be a bad idea, for high-risk areas.)

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    It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    1. Re:To be expected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you making this shit up as you go along? Go to google news and do a search on Mt St Helens and take a look at articles less than 24 hours old and you will not find that scientists are only expecting the volcano to build it's lava dome "in peace" (in peace? what in the hell does that mean? Are you anthropomorphising a volcano?). Go to the USDA Forest Service site for Mt. St. Helens and you will see that seismic activity has been increasing in frequency and intensity over the past 24 hours.

    2. Re:To be expected by AnimeFreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It seems you forget that Seattle has the option of evacuating to the north towards Vancouver, Canada. Yes. It is too in the path of a volcano, Mt. Baker which is slightly east of Bellingham, WA, but Mt. Baker has been rather quiet for the past number of years and even if it were to blow its top, Vancouver and the area around it would be relatively okay.

    3. Re:To be expected by WhiteBandit · · Score: 4, Informative

      (Hey, California's no better. They've not even fixed the damage from the last major earthquake, nevermind made improvements to handle another crisis, even though there's a quite significant risk of another crisis in the comparatively near future. Roads don't build themselves and emergency crews aren't exactly equipt with all-terrain vehicles. Though that would probably not be a bad idea, for high-risk areas.)

      Err what?

      Since the Northridge Earthquake in 1994, every major freeway interchange in Southern California has been retrofitted with steel and cement sleeves to make them seismically safe. They should be able to stand most earthquakes that are thrown at them, except perhaps the I-10/I-215 interchange which is built directly on top of the San Jacinto Fault (oops!). If that decides to rupture, write that part of the freeway off.

      It is also against the law to build within 60 feet of an active fault line as well. Not to mention, new buildings today are built to strict codes, ensuring they should stand up in an earthquake.

      Even factoring 1994's M6.7 Northridge Earthquake, which was one of the most expensive natural disasters in U.S. history, there were 51 deaths. This is considerably less deaths than similiar (and even smaller sized) quakes in Iran, Turkey, Indonesia or even Mexico. It is definitely a testiment to strict building codes, which have gotten better with more research and understanding of wave/crustal/structural dynamics.

    4. Re:To be expected by Rangataua · · Score: 1

      Actually I think that this is the "worst case" for a volcano.

    5. Re:To be expected by RollingThunder · · Score: 1

      Except for the fact than an offshoot of Mt Baker comes up smack dab in the middle of Vancouver.

      I kid you not. The Mount Bloedel Conservatory is perched on top of it.

      Of course, I went looking for some confirmation of this online and came up blank, so YMMV.

    6. Re:To be expected by jd · · Score: 1
      The article actually mentions that worse eruptions have occured. :)


      As a side-note, the entirity of Yellowstone Park is one gigantic volcano. If that went up, I imagine it could do quite a bit of damage. If activity there started going up, I think you can expect US home insurance premiums to rise quite dramatically.


      (You can also expect insurance agents to start lining up for the next manned Mars mission.)

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      It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    7. Re:To be expected by vegasbright · · Score: 0

      Just because there is a secondary vent of a volcano does not imply that there will be an eruption at that "offshoot".

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      Tyler: You don't know where ive been, Lou. YOU DONT KNOW WHERE IVE BEEN!!
    8. Re:To be expected by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The bigger concern is Tacoma - it's pretty much going to be flattened if the volcano goes and the glacier melt ends up following the valleys as expected. One possible escape method is by large ship. Tacoma does have a harbor sufficient to support ocean-going cargo frieghters You could fit an awful lot of people on one ocean cargo ship, especially if all you are planning on doing is moving them a ways north up puget sound and don't plan on actually heading out to the ocean.

      (One of the reasons Ranier is such a danger isn't so much the size of the eruption itself that would likely occur, but the pretty magestic white slopes. In an eruption all those icy glaciers will liquify and make a massive rushing flood of muddy goo all the way to Puget Sound, ruining all cities in the way. Ranier has the most ice of any mountain in the United States.)

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    9. Re:To be expected by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      Ah, some hope at last. Now I can hope that Mt. Rainier will finally blow its top and chase all those damn Seattleites to Canada where they belong.

      Gutless wonders, all of them. Heh.

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    10. Re:To be expected by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 1

      Strict building codes can only go so far. Take a look at Kobe in Japan. A big enough earthquake could cause serious havoc.

    11. Re:To be expected by zzyzx · · Score: 2, Funny

      "The bigger concern is Tacoma - it's pretty much going to be flattened if the volcano goes and the glacier melt ends up following the valleys as expected."

      You say that like that's a bad thing.

    12. Re:To be expected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That thing has absolutely no concern for the environment, whatsoever.

      Hello? It's a volcano, it IS the environment. :p

    13. Re:To be expected by rthille · · Score: 1

      Ranier has more ice than Denali? I find that hard to believe. Any references?

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    14. Re:To be expected by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 1

      Sorry. The most ice in the contiguous 48 states.

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  43. Re:What a tease! by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I bet that is the first time anyone has ever used the words 'Saint', 'tease' and 'blow' in a sentance."

    Actually.. no. It's funny what you see when you mass download a bunch of.. uh... research material.

    --
    "Derp de derp."
  44. ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nuff said

    1. Re:ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? by stevok · · Score: 1

      No, actually, it's quite safe. Coldwater Ridge Visitor's Center is located literally right on the edge of the blast zone for the big eruption. If I were standing there on a certain morning in 1980, yeah, I'd be toast, but this one is not going to be nearly as big (if it actually KABOOMs, which it may very well not). The Forest Service isn't stupid, that's why they closed Johnston Ridge Observatory, which is much closer to the crater. See this map http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/04mshnvm/global/images2/ mshrec.jpg of the area. The beige part is the blast zone (basically pea gravel, ash, and shrubbery), green is trees courtesy of Weyerhauser Lumber. Besides, there are about 15 satellite trucks parked in a lookout point nearby, each with a few hundred thousand bucks worth of very nice broadcasting equipment. If I trust the news guys, (which I do 110%!!!!!!!! ha, no...) it's safe. Either way, don't be such a wuss, get the hell up there and see it, it's beautiful.

    2. Re:ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? by vegasbright · · Score: 0

      Ya know, people like you have nothing better to do than falsely inflate your ego with this brand of posts. Go back to your minimum wage AOL support job and leave the comments to the adults.

      Bye bye now!

      Off you go! Run along and play.

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      Tyler: You don't know where ive been, Lou. YOU DONT KNOW WHERE IVE BEEN!!
  45. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Senate voted against it 99-1. No one supported it.

    There are other countries you know, like Canada, People's Republic of China, India, Japan, New Zealand, and all of the European Union.


    -Colin

  46. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 4, Funny


    The Senate voted against it 99-1. No one supported it.

    That statement is obviously self contradictory.

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  47. wow by Larmal · · Score: 1

    Man, Helen is soooooooooo hot. she gets my mojo flowin

  48. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, I see you've chosen door #3!

    Johnny! Let's see what our trembling concervative contestant has won, shall we?

    That's right! A brand new case of emphysema! But wait, that's not all, because Barbie is holding a one way ticket to Hell! You'll spend eternity basking in the glow of the beautiful white hot flames of Lucifer's pools of molten rock and breathing fresh acid tinged rain and gases (note on-topic ref), while dining on the sulfer-flavored bones of your fellow Americans, who have recently joined you on permanent vacation, as a direct result of environmental hubris!! Your prize package includes terminal skin, colon and stomach cancer, all courtesy the White House, Washington, D.C.

    Yes, ravenspear, you've chosen today's big jackpot, and all you have to do to collect is NOTHING! Enjoy your demise and don't forget to thank little G'dubya for your fantastic luck!

  49. New Microsoft Headquarters! by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey Bill!

    Let me tell you of this new place where you can move Microsoft HQ to... oh wait :)

    1. Re:New Microsoft Headquarters! by Beolach · · Score: 2, Funny

      I dunno, I think they ought to move somewhere even hotter....

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    2. Re:New Microsoft Headquarters! by Jetson · · Score: 1
      Let me tell you of this new place where you can move Microsoft HQ to... oh wait :)

      Back in 1999/2000 (when it looked like the DOJ might break up the company) the BBC reported that MS was planning to move to Canada and had been offered significant incentives by the British Columbia provincial government to relocate to Vancouver. Both the province and the company denied the whole thing, but there was a lot of suspicion that the story was fabricated in order to put pressure on the Bush White House to muzzle the DOJ.

  50. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's because 99% of the Senate is bought and paid for by big business. We seem to be the only country in the developed world that is still ignoring it. If the recent spike in CO2 levels proves to be a trend and not an anomaly we're in for big trouble very soon. Just how many once in a hundred year storms do you need in a ten year period before you'll accept there's a problem? At just the current rate within twenty years there will be for the first time in modern history a north west passage in the artic. At fiirst it will be just during the summer months. In fifty to a hundred years the arctic ice cap will disappear entirely in the summer. The droughts have already begun and millions are likely to die of starvation in the coming decades. It's not the end of the world it's just the begining of the end of the moderate weather we've enjoyed. All this in the name of corporate greed. The heads of most of the major corporations must be betting there's no hell because if there is they'll all be roasting their rumps for all eternity. Either way their children and grand children will suffer for the sins of the fathers, and mothers. Mother nature is a mean bitch and I wouldn't piss her off given the choice.

  51. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because it's a good idea? Because we need to start doing something about C02 emmisions as change on that large a scale takes a decade to implement?

    Maybe Kyoto was too big a step to take at once (though I have my doubts about that) but the big problem is the Bush administration wants to ignore the problem entirely.

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  52. Actually... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    I believe it was 95-0.

  53. Re:What a tease! by pnatural · · Score: 1

    Who is this "they" of whom you speak?

  54. Volcano In Motion by FTPKeen · · Score: 1

    These are about 5 minutes apart that being the refreshrate of the sh*ty webcam it looks horrible but you can definetly decern some activity going on. This is between 9:30 and 10:30... forgot to update in the middle there so it jumps into action in frame 5. http://www.cybercom.net/~haeley/VolcanoNow.GIF OK QUESTION: Why arnt there CLOSE UP SHOTS of this volcano in action right now? Spewing red and purple blue lava into the air? Where are the streaming Webcams with zoom in! And why on Earth didn't somebody think of putting the VOLCANO CAMERA in the RIM of the CRATOR!!

    1. Re:Volcano In Motion by loubear · · Score: 1

      Notify the geologists, we have a volunteer to man the closeup camera for the night shift!

      Don't bother to pack a sweater, but bring some really good boots, eh?

    2. Re:Volcano In Motion by hopemafia · · Score: 1

      There are better pictures of the action at:
      http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/MSH/Images/MSH 04/
      They are generally posted withing 24 hours of being taken, and there are high-res versions that make great desktop wallpapers.

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  55. People want actiiiiiion by earthstar · · Score: 1
    Why so much interest and coverage for St.Helen?

    I think people want to see it explode...like an entertainment.

    {do consider helen hunt for entertainment,though}

    1. Re:People want actiiiiiion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What??? See Helen Hunt explode for entertainment?

    2. Re:People want actiiiiiion by earthstar · · Score: 1

      lol. i meant her movies.
      [ btw ,As Good As it Gets made me sleepy.]

    3. Re:People want actiiiiiion by Reene · · Score: 1

      Of course they do. There's nothing really unusual about that. People are naturally fascinated by the forces of nature, particularly destructive ones.

      There's nothing really wrong with it either. The area is evacuated, the chances of anybody being killed is close to nil, hell even the chances of people being hurt is pretty slim. If it ends up throwing up a massive ash plume like last time, there's the chance some folks with respiratory problems will have issues, but anybody with half a brain is already preparing for that possibility.

      Of course, as one of my fellow Oregonian aquaintences says, it's not really an eruption until some foolhardy thrill-seeking mountaineer gets killed. We shall see.

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  56. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Canada hasn't done anything at all about Kyoto at all.

  57. Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm disappointed again. I wanted Funny or Insightful. This sucks - I must be a Republican.

    (And another Funny, Insightful post is about to be modded to -1, Not a Democrat or Libertarian.)

    1. Re:Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod -1, Dumbass Democrat

  58. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anthony · · Score: 1

    Herbert Kerry, Reanimator...

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  59. Clarification by iamlucky13 · · Score: 4, Informative

    There seems to be a little confusion among those who didn't actually read the article, so I might as well waste a few seconds:

    There is no lava actually coming out visibly. When they say there is magma at the surface, the geologists really mean it's just below the surface. I guess the point of the article is that this is new growth inside the lava dome, as opposed to lava deep down pushing up the whole dome from beneath. Microsoft is still safe baring any truly cool explosions and there's really no danger of forest fires. Any lava would have a lot of crater filling to do before it spilled over the north face. Plus I read somewhere that the lava tends to come out of Mt. St. Helens pretty viscous (thick crust?) so it doesn't flow well anyways.

    1. Re:Clarification by WhiteBandit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There seems to be a little confusion among those who didn't actually read the article, so I might as well waste a few seconds:

      There is no lava actually coming out visibly. When they say there is magma at the surface, the geologists really mean it's just below the surface. I guess the point of the article is that this is new growth inside the lava dome, as opposed to lava deep down pushing up the whole dome from beneath. Microsoft is still safe baring any truly cool explosions and there's really no danger of forest fires. Any lava would have a lot of crater filling to do before it spilled over the north face. Plus I read somewhere that the lava tends to come out of Mt. St. Helens pretty viscous (thick crust?) so it doesn't flow well anyways.


      Yeah, the magma below the Cascade ranges have quite a high silica content. The higher the silica content, the more viscous the lava is, as well as more explosive.

      So any magma that does reach the surface will be extremely viscous, not move very far and be quite irregular as it cools. Most likely, it will form a type of volcanic rock called rhyolite or dacite, rather than basalt, which is what people usually associate with lava flows (and is the stuff produced from low silica content eruptions, such as the Hawaiian Islands).

    2. Re:Clarification by craw · · Score: 2, Informative

      The more viscous the magma, the more difficult it is for trapped gasses (e.g., CO2) to diffuse out as the magma rises from depth. These gasses are over-pressurize when they reach the near-surface and are the reason for the explosive eruptions.

      Basalt has a lower silica content and is less viscous. Less viscosity allows for trapped gasses to diffuse out resulting in less explosive eruptions.

      Rhyolite, dacite, and basalt are defined by their chemical composition (silica and other lesser elements) and on their mineral grain size (as oppose to coarser grained granite and gabbro).

    3. Re:Clarification by khallow · · Score: 1
      There is no lava actually coming out visibly.

      That's kind of subjective since they are seeing new rock that's really hot and still kind of moves. I think you're just spoiled by all those wonderful basalt lava flows in Hawaii, Iceland, and Italy.

  60. KABOOM, ASH AND LAVA!! by digid · · Score: 1

    KABOOM, ASH AND LAVA!!

  61. Wha? by the+way,+fsck+you! · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering KABOOM!

    1. Re:Wha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this modded redundant because the quote was already used, or because the moderator doesn't recognize it as a Marvin the Martian line (when he was trying to shatter the earth)?

  62. Flash! Mt. St. Helens destroys Microsoft! by Simonetta · · Score: 2, Funny

    Flash!

    After weeks of seismic activity, Mt. St Helens shot off its lava dome that had been building for 20 years.
    The solid 5000 ton piece of rock shot off like a cannonball out of the crater of the volcano.
    It traveled 100 miles north in a perfect parabola. Then it smashed into the main administrative center of Microsoft corporation outside Redmond.
    "All our source code and back-ups were destroyed", said a Microsoft spokescreature. "We'll have to start all over from MS-DOS 6.2 again".
    "It's as if Mother Nature was gunning for us and scored a big, fat bulls-eye on her first shot", said VP Steve Ballmer. Mr. Ballmer was directly in the main inpact center when the giant rock hit but he suffered no apparent damage. "No force of nature would ever dare fuck with me!", said Mr. Ballmer. He then announced that in light of the loss of all the source code and support network, there would be 3% reduction in the list price of all current Windows versions selling at full retail.

  63. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, but you gave the distinct impression that you expected someone to care. If I had mod points, I'd mod you "funny... in a sad sort of way."

  64. Re:Flash! Mt. St. Helens destroys Microsoft! by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's nice to see that graduates from the Bob Saget School of Comedy are finding time to expand on their art form.

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  65. Re:VolcanoCam Archives by WhiteBandit · · Score: 4, Informative

    They also have a seismogram on the southern side of Mt. Saint Helens that directly posts information onto the internet. While many might not understand the significance of reading it, you can still actually see there is quite a bit of activity.

    Seismogram is viewable here.

    Interestingly enough, they actually had a seismogram that was on top of the lava dome, but it was destroyed in the first steam explosion at the beginning of the month.

  66. May 18, 1980 I made a prediction that didn't come by mbrewthx · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well sunday May 18, 1980 Was my sister's 13th birthday and I was 10. We lived in Staten Island, New York. When I we learned the news of MT ST Helen's eruputing, I said in ten year old wisdom I'm never moving near there. Where do I live now 24 years later? Yup NW Oregon...in a little town called Dayton. (shakes fist in air) DAMM YOU KARMA GOD'S... But we're to far away to be affected...My 3 year thinks it's cool, every afternoon he goes out with his binoculars to see the volcano. We can't see it, but he has a great imagination....

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  67. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other newss, the Pimply-Faced Boy CIA spokeperson said "We have evidence confirmed by that ugly looking woman on Jerry Springer that MSH has Weapons of Mass Destruction and poses a threat to Americans, and the American Way of Life. France (as usual) was opposed to the invasion of Mt. St. Helen's causing the House of Representatives to outlaw the use of the words Bourgeouis, Touche, Cul-de-sac among others. At a Monster Truck Rally attended by Southern Baptists and Residence-Impaired Citizens in Support of Creationism & Theological Computer Science (How would Jesus Code?) senator FuckWad was quoted as saying "We suspect those French bastards of secretly passing Lava to MSH under the guise of the French er.. Freedom Fries for Lava programme mandated by that corrupt bunch of Commies, otherwise known as The UN". HEIL GEORGE BUSH, Supreme Military Dictator of the United States of America and the Savage Barbarian Rest-of-the-world. All Hail The Emperor.

  68. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by shut_up_man · · Score: 4, Funny

    And Poland. You forgot Poland.

  69. Terrorist Act by indiancowboy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If it kills a bunch of people the gov.'s probably going to blame it on Al Qaida!

  70. I just wonder why the government doesn't do someth by gumbysworld · · Score: 0, Troll

    I just wonder why the government doesn't do something about this???

    They could easily of dropped a few bunker busters onthe sucker a while ago or even now. Poke a hole in that sucker and let out some pressure. But no everyone just stands back and waits to watch it blow, like we are powerless.

    It will then level everything around it. Dump million of tons of ash that cost billions to clean up n fix.

    Just sink a missile in that sucker and vent it.

  71. Re: RED HOT LAVA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are two kinds of lava, but the kind for this song could only be Aa : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=fire fox-a&q=Aa+lava&btnG=Search/

    As in Ahhh, ahhh.

    Although if I was kinker, I'd say it was Pahoehoe: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox- a&q=Pahoehoe&spell=1/

  72. Re:Flash! Mt. St. Helens destroys Microsoft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I were you, I'd have killed myself.

  73. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by taycalmac · · Score: 0

    What about Australia?. Oh wait. We suck up to America. Forget it...

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  74. You forgot someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    POLAND!

  75. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Peyna · · Score: 1

    The Senate voted against it 99-1. No one supported it.

    That's funny, because the Senate never even voted on ratification of the treaty. They did vote 95-0 against a bill which sought to enact some of the provisions of the treaty, but they never voted against the treaty itself, because it never reached the floor.

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  76. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, it does, because if you're a Republican you can just remain ignorant to the world's problems and live a blissful life.

    If you're a Democrat you actually give a shit, and therefore suffer severe emotional drain as a result of trying to fix all the problems in the world.

  77. Nonononono..... by jd · · Score: 1

    Ksh eruptions happen when the vampire slayers stab Peter Ksh-ing's Dracula with a stake.

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  78. you missed one.. by Technician · · Score: 2, Interesting



    You missed the bulge that is building in the The Three Sisters in Central Oregon.

    http://www.registerguard.com/news/2004/03/25/a1. bu lge.0325.html

    Cut and paste from the above article..

    confirming geologists' belief that a large bulge that has grown over the past seven years near the dormant volcanoes could be caused by an upwelling of molten rock miles underground.

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  79. Re:Flash! Mt. St. Helens destroys Microsoft! by wheany · · Score: 1

    That was probably the worst joke ever. At least you didn't use M$ or Micro$oft.

  80. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by kubrick · · Score: 1

    Wasn't the PATRIOT Act voted for in the Senate 98-2 or 99-1? Unanimity isn't always a sign of legislative wisdom.

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  81. Re:I just wonder why the government doesn't do som by vegasbright · · Score: 0

    That would be like throwing a gallon of water in a deep fryer! Also like uncorking a pepsi! THat would do nothing but make a bigger eruption. And oh, you geoscience know-nothing, Bunker busters would not have reached the magma plume. Know something about the situation before just mouthing off.

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  82. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by isorox · · Score: 1

    Only in america would "There are other countries you know" be modded "Informative".

    Of course China and India coted for Kyoto - they aren't affected, if everyone implemented it, then China and India would do better then everyone else.

    The only way kyoto would work is if every country was treated equally.

  83. Bomb??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh sure... but would you rather have radioactive ash then sulphuric ash?

  84. And you failed it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your joke was complete garbage! WTF were you thinking?

  85. Business as usual. by Invalid+Character · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Isn't the recent activity of Mt. St Helens completely normal in a compsite volcano such as Mt. St. Helens?

    It is formed after all from many small eruptions, such as this one, that deposit lava onto the sides of the volcano and thereby causing it to grow larger. IANAG (I Am Not A Geologist).

    What's the big deal other than its interesting to watch it unfold infront of your eyes, and it probably will keep on doing this for some time to come so now isn't your last chance to see this happen. Granted with all the new technology available to us it can provide us with some valuable insight into the inner workings of the earth, but it seems the geologist know exactly whats going on here.

    Other than these few scientific points of interest, there really is not much point in sucking up this story from every single media outlet. Its business as usual for the volcano and time we worried about more important things (at least those we can influence).

    And no I don't live on the other side of the world. I'm from just a wee bit North of the border.

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  86. Re:Flash! Mt. St. Helens destroys Microsoft! by Tongo · · Score: 1

    okay, that was funny.

  87. Can the blow block the sunlight? by ambelamba · · Score: 1

    I am just wiondering if the eruption can cause enough ash to block the sunlight for a while. I am kinda anticipating for this because I hate scorching So Cal weather!!!!!

  88. 'Scimitar SL-2' by payndz · · Score: 2, Interesting
    There's a new-ish novel by Patrick Robinson called 'Scimitar SL-2' that features a Mount St Helen's eruption as part of the plot, caused by (DUN DUN DURRR!) *terrorists*!

    It's not a very good novel (in fact, it's downright ludicrous, as it's one of those where all the world's terrorists seem to be working together as one unified group, a concept which Parker and Stone are ridiculing in 'Team America') and it's insanely right-wing, ultra-militaristic and reactionary, as such books are wont to be, but Robinson might now get some extra sales just because he was lucky with the timing.

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  89. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Afty0r · · Score: 1
    The Senate voted against it 99-1. No one supported it.
    The senate voted 99 to how many. No-one supported it?

    How many votes went *against* the DMCA? Wasn't it a similar number? Apparently the voting record of the senate is... interesting.
  90. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by iapetus · · Score: 1

    Of course he didn't forget Poland. I thought everyone knew Poland is part of Canada...

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  91. Re:May 18, 1980 I made a prediction that didn't co by Reene · · Score: 1

    I hear it's quite a sight- if you can get out there to see it throwing up ash and steam and whatnot, I'd highly suggest it.

    I wasn't around for the last eruption but my grandmother has pictures of it (including the inches of ash on her car's windshield) and even they are rather breathtaking. It's not every day you get to see a volcano erupting.

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  92. It might be night, but you can still see the lava. by XJoshX · · Score: 2, Interesting


    One of the coolest things to happen with the volcano cam recently is that night has gotten slightly more interesting. For the first couple weeks, all you could see at night was a dark noisy image. In the last couple days, a faint glow from the magma in the dome has been visisble.

  93. Re:Flash! Mt. St. Helens destroys Microsoft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congratulations, this is _exactly_ what i was thinking, the best possible outcome of a Mt. St Helens eruption It's a shame i'm out of mod points

  94. Think Of The Terrorists... by CmdrGravy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think it's very irresponsible reporting on what is, in effect, a large bomb in the heart of America. Using these news articles it would be perfectly possible for me, and any evil muslim terrorists, to find my way to this device and maybe find a way of using it in a terrorist atrocity.

    I would hope all ./'s would join me and petition the US government to "For gods sake keep the location of these massively dangerous feature of the landscape out of the hands of terrorists and their locations secret". All scientific research on these evil weapons of terror should cease immediately and recognition of Mt St Helens as a Volcano should immeditely result in lengthy prison sentence in some off shore detention facility.

    1. Re:Think Of The Terrorists... by khallow · · Score: 1

      I may just be insufficiently imaginative, but I think you'll have trouble getting this on a plane.

    2. Re:Think Of The Terrorists... by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

      My Gosh, the terrorists have even planned for that though ! I think it is one of their terrorist training manuals... "If the mountain won't go to Mohammed then Mohammed must go to the mountain"

  95. Magma? by Knunov · · Score: 1

    Is it liquid hot magma?

    Is it evil magma?

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  96. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1
    "The only way kyoto would work is if every country was treated equally."

    The thing is that every country is NOT equal so applying the same rules to everyone would benefit some and damage others.

  97. Suitable song by FraggedSquid · · Score: 1

    To modify the Iron Maiden lyric "don't run to the hills, especially that big smoking one over there..."

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  98. number 1 i order you to take a number 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    LIQUID HOT MAGMA?

  99. -1 misses joke due to self-absorbtion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /message

  100. Re:What a tease! by Scarblac · · Score: 1

    Actually.. no. It's funny what you see when you mass download a bunch of.. uh... research material.

    (Completely off-topic)

    There is a band called Das Oath, which is a beautiful band name, and they have a song called Awesome Rape. Which I think is a great name for a rock song - can't get much more politically incorrect than that, in a few words.

    So what's the first hit for "awesome rape" in Google? A page about "awesome rape comics".

    The Internet beats rock music, once again.

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  101. Re:What a tease! by hamburger+lady · · Score: 1

    you've obviously never been an Altar Boy.

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  102. Try this... by imag0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seems to work for me (OS X). Just make an empty directory, drop this script in it and run. Remember, slashdot mangles posts so go to my blog for the un-mangled script. Cheers!

    #!/bin/bash
    while (:); do
    export name=`date +%m.%d.%y-%H:%M:%S`
    wget http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images/m shvolcanocam.jpg -O $name.jpg
    #sleeps for 15 minutes
    sleep 900
    done

  103. Magma visible? by NeuroManson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been monitoring the volcanocams this morning and noticed one spot near the top of the dome, that has been "glowing" pretty consistantly. Take a look at:

    http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/

    and

    http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/images / (has archives)

    Keep an eye on the one steam plume on the upper right of the crater. As the sun goes down on the camera (roughly 22:00 Oct 12), you can see a prominant reddish spot that remains all the way through, well, the time I write this.

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  104. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He did not. Double funny.

  105. Volcanos : Earth's zits by chiph · · Score: 1

    Now on Discovery Channel: Volcanos, Earth's big zits.

    Chip H.

  106. Funny ads by sicking · · Score: 1

    I got some pretty funny ads reading that article:

    St. Helens on eBay
    Find St. Helens items at low prices. With over 5 million items for sale every...
    www.ebay.com
    St Helens - Cheap Hotel Rates
    Before booking a hotel, compare hotel room rates at Nextag.
    www.nextag.com

    So I can either buy stuff from the area before it vanishes forever, or I can stay in the area really really cheap. I could see someone wanting to do the first, but the second, not so sure about that.

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  107. Re:Ignore the Kyoto Accord at your own peril... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well poland is part of the european union

  108. So? by siskbc · · Score: 1
    Strict building codes can only go so far. Take a look at Kobe in Japan. A big enough earthquake could cause serious havoc.

    Well, yeah. Unfortunately, strict bulding codes are the only protection we have from earthquakes, aside from education. Point is, a 6.7 won't do that kind of damage next time.

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  109. Re:I just wonder why the government doesn't do som by gumbysworld · · Score: 1

    well fuck you and your family too.

  110. Clarification of clarification by mysticgoat · · Score: 1

    There seems to be a little confusion...There is no lava actually coming out visibly. When they say there is magma at the surface, the geologists really mean it's just below the surface.

    There is some continuing confusion. What MSH is doing is a little confusing.

    The lower surfaces of the new bulge is rock with a temperature of 1100+ degrees F that also possesses other qualities of brand new rock: the geologists seem quite sure that this stuff was magma just hours ago. It probably still retains some plasticity. Think of this as a fresh lava in the same way the crust that forms on top of a hawaiian lava flow is fresh lava. The new bulge in MSH's crater is now recognized as a new lava dome, building just to one side of the old dome, and the lava is extruding out above the old crater floor.

  111. Linking by bill_kress · · Score: 1

    Kind of O/T but there are times when reading news from a real "news source" is really frusterating. I actually clicked on "Lateral Eruption" to see the details and only then did I realize it wasn't hyperlinked.

    Have I been spending too much time on Wikipedia?? Oh, good idea! That's where I'll go to look up Lateral Eruption.

  112. Re:What a tease! by valkr1e · · Score: 1

    I quite possibly could be, although i think someone may have used them all in a sentence before, why i hear those words used together frequently around march every year in pubs.

  113. Re:What a tease! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  114. Re:Flash! Mt. St. Helens destroys Microsoft! by jo42 · · Score: 1

    We can only wish...

  115. Mt. Rainier by Vexar · · Score: 1

    This is just an opinion, but I think Mt. Rainier is more likely to have a substantial eruption and a big "ka-boom" than Mt. St. Helens will again in my lifetime. It has been ~150 years since Mt. Rainier did anything eruptive. Assuming a mildly linear behavior, taking into consideration the frequency of substantial eruptions in the area, Mt. Rainier is due, baby. I wish we had a deeper understanding of the earth. Something beyond the ~50 mile crust and 62 mile atmosphere. There is so much more to the story. Anyway, there's a really big datacenter in Portland, I hope Rainier goes before St. Helens, we don't have Disaster Recovery set up yet!