"The victim will have to do the equivalent of chmod +x on it first."
The same goes if you download an file with Internet Explorer. When you double-click it Windows asks if you really, really want to open this file, it came from the internet and internet is a bad place and this file might do something nasty. So the victim has to click yes, I'm sure I want to infect my Windows setup.
I think there is some other browser which sets this "internet-bit" too but can't remember it's name right now.
I would guess the answer is Ubuntu. Their shareware is written for Windows. Now if Ubuntu had market share of Windows, or at least somewhere near, things would be quite different.
IIRC the exact same comment was given when we had these discussions earlier. I think someone pointed out back then that it's a common copypaste comment on every god damn discussion about electronic devices on board. I've seeing same kinds of comments in our local (Finnish) discussions also. Meters going up and down when somebody has left his/her cellphone on. Utter rubbish I say. Why doesn't cellphone cause any such interference with other devices at home, work etc.?
I think you are perfectly right. And besides, most of the projects I've been into in my 10+ year career weren't exactly rocket science. If you know the language and the platform you are probably able to handle it. But if you stick to some old language/platform and your company doesn't get customers because of that, well, I wouldn't blame the rookie or the employer.
But I would like to point out another kind of problem which, I think, is related to the topic. Getting a raise is usually really hard. You go to your boss and say "I've learned new things and done a good job, created revenue for the company, can I get a raise now?" Boss answers "you get the common 0.5% union raise as everyone else" and that's it. The only way to get a raise is to switch company (or at least threaten to switch) but it has usually plenty of downsides, a lot of hassle with interviews and stuff, and personally it causes always some stress.
I told these exact reasons to our Minister of Finance: a) it does't work b) it's easy to circumvent c) it's against the constitution d) it's going to be abused. Still Finland decided to pass a censorship law. It is already abused by censoring local Finnish sites when the law enables censor only foreign sites. There's also gay porn sites and sites that aren't even related to porn any way in the censorship list.
Even if Microsoft fixes and regression-tests a bug in a day or less, they won't make it available for up to a month. This is due to their decision to go with a monthly patch cycle.
It wasn't Microsoft's decision. The demand came from the industry. Some people like to test the patches before committing them to production.
I was wise enough to wait that NVidia and ATI had Vista drivers ready before I switched from XP to Vista. After the switch Vista trashed a days creating indexes but I was expecting that let it do its stuff. The next day I was really pleased with my installation. The thing was much faster than my two year old XP installation. I guess my experience would've been much worse if I hadn't waited NVidia/ATI to put its act together.
These days I'm running Vista at home on two of my laptops. Both were the cheapest laptops you could get from the store couple of years ago. Both have lousy CPUs, hard drives and graphic adapters, other one has 1 gig of memory and the other one 2 gigs. I'm pleased with them also as I was with my desktop, although the other one is showing some problems with the hard drive.
So I'm not really sure what's this bitching about Vista really is. My friends and coworkers sometimes talks about "that horrid Vista" but when I ask what's their problem with it they can't tell. And that's weird. They are technologically adept people and they can't tell what's the problem with their PC! They can be very specific when telling what's wrong with their cars though...;)
My E6500 is awful. The thing is, I use solely laptops and always the touchpad. I don't like external keyboard or mouse a bit. Now E6500 has this "little" problem that its touchpad freezes every now and then. But sometimes it gets overly sensitive and seems to have a life of its own. IIRC I read from Dell forums that this is a common problem, something to do with the touchpad itself and not a driver problem since some people have experienced this even on Linux while I use Windows 7. The laptop works quite fine when I'm doing something which doesn't need my involvement, like building a project, but that is a very rare situation.
So I'm rather dissapointed since every other product form Dell has worked 100% for me. For example I loved Inspiron 9400. I'd gladly change E6500 to any other Dell laptop but it's not actully my laptop but my employer's so I have to stick with it at least two and half year.
I've been saying the same thing for almost 10 years now. Every time I've been blamed as a "troll". I'd like to have web which just displays information without hundreds of lines of CSS masturbation. For any more complex things I prefer rich apps which uses Web Services (or whatever) when communicating with server(s).
But if five billion other internet users wants to have HTML5, CSS, JavaScript, Flash, etc. etc. who am I argue with them.
Funny thing. Finland's press exercise censorship of their own but I guess that doesn't drop positions on that list. There's some cases where Finnish press doesn't tell exactly the truth or at least the whole truth about things and in some cases they tell outright lies. You just have to know how to read our news. Usually combining facts from different media sources you get the whole picture.
So if this kind of censorship is taken in account Finland wouldn't be number one.
You mean the government can't keep you safe and give information to the people (to the electorate) at the same time? If that's the case then there wouldn't be crimes in Finland at all!
I think everyone should read Frank Herbert's Chapterhouse: Dune and the discussions between Spider Queen and Lucilla about politics and democracy. There's a lot of truth in there if you compare it to a real world democratic state.
I'm not sure if Google can be thought to have monopoly on search markets, and I'm too lazy to read about the case, but if EU thinks so the rules will change. Just like Microsoft was forced to provide browser choice dialog with Windows although one would presume that Windows comes with Internet Explorer.
We are pretty much pissed off in Finland too. But it's not because of other countries like Iceland or Ireland. It's because our braindead politicians think that Finland has endless amounts of money which can be shared to the rest of the world. I'm not really sure what's our Minister of Finance's idea to throw money away but I'm sure he is benefiting somehow from all of this.
Sometimes I really hate this socialist country. Luckily we have elections coming.
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"The victim will have to do the equivalent of chmod +x on it first."
The same goes if you download an file with Internet Explorer. When you double-click it Windows asks if you really, really want to open this file, it came from the internet and internet is a bad place and this file might do something nasty. So the victim has to click yes, I'm sure I want to infect my Windows setup.
I think there is some other browser which sets this "internet-bit" too but can't remember it's name right now.
Heh. I'm a flamebait by simply changing one product to another. But to be honest, I was expecting such moderation much earlier :)
You mean like simply avoiding Linux would be enough protection to avoid all of these?
I would guess the answer is Ubuntu. Their shareware is written for Windows. Now if Ubuntu had market share of Windows, or at least somewhere near, things would be quite different.
Surprise element: Hot chick with pushup bra doesn't kiss Neo but Trinity! Neo looks to join in.
And many are the times I've been sleeping during landing and even on takeoff. No-one has woken me up.
IIRC the exact same comment was given when we had these discussions earlier. I think someone pointed out back then that it's a common copypaste comment on every god damn discussion about electronic devices on board. I've seeing same kinds of comments in our local (Finnish) discussions also. Meters going up and down when somebody has left his/her cellphone on. Utter rubbish I say. Why doesn't cellphone cause any such interference with other devices at home, work etc.?
I think you are perfectly right. And besides, most of the projects I've been into in my 10+ year career weren't exactly rocket science. If you know the language and the platform you are probably able to handle it. But if you stick to some old language/platform and your company doesn't get customers because of that, well, I wouldn't blame the rookie or the employer.
But I would like to point out another kind of problem which, I think, is related to the topic. Getting a raise is usually really hard. You go to your boss and say "I've learned new things and done a good job, created revenue for the company, can I get a raise now?" Boss answers "you get the common 0.5% union raise as everyone else" and that's it. The only way to get a raise is to switch company (or at least threaten to switch) but it has usually plenty of downsides, a lot of hassle with interviews and stuff, and personally it causes always some stress.
Of fuck! So when ever Pluto is in a strange angle you get health problems? Life must not be good for you :(
I'm like Harry Callahan. I hate everyone equally.
I told these exact reasons to our Minister of Finance: a) it does't work b) it's easy to circumvent c) it's against the constitution d) it's going to be abused. Still Finland decided to pass a censorship law. It is already abused by censoring local Finnish sites when the law enables censor only foreign sites. There's also gay porn sites and sites that aren't even related to porn any way in the censorship list.
Naah. He obviously has an agenda is thus biased :D
It wasn't Microsoft's decision. The demand came from the industry. Some people like to test the patches before committing them to production.
You run Linux as root? Wow!
I was wise enough to wait that NVidia and ATI had Vista drivers ready before I switched from XP to Vista. After the switch Vista trashed a days creating indexes but I was expecting that let it do its stuff. The next day I was really pleased with my installation. The thing was much faster than my two year old XP installation. I guess my experience would've been much worse if I hadn't waited NVidia/ATI to put its act together.
These days I'm running Vista at home on two of my laptops. Both were the cheapest laptops you could get from the store couple of years ago. Both have lousy CPUs, hard drives and graphic adapters, other one has 1 gig of memory and the other one 2 gigs. I'm pleased with them also as I was with my desktop, although the other one is showing some problems with the hard drive.
So I'm not really sure what's this bitching about Vista really is. My friends and coworkers sometimes talks about "that horrid Vista" but when I ask what's their problem with it they can't tell. And that's weird. They are technologically adept people and they can't tell what's the problem with their PC! They can be very specific when telling what's wrong with their cars though... ;)
My E6500 is awful. The thing is, I use solely laptops and always the touchpad. I don't like external keyboard or mouse a bit. Now E6500 has this "little" problem that its touchpad freezes every now and then. But sometimes it gets overly sensitive and seems to have a life of its own. IIRC I read from Dell forums that this is a common problem, something to do with the touchpad itself and not a driver problem since some people have experienced this even on Linux while I use Windows 7. The laptop works quite fine when I'm doing something which doesn't need my involvement, like building a project, but that is a very rare situation.
So I'm rather dissapointed since every other product form Dell has worked 100% for me. For example I loved Inspiron 9400. I'd gladly change E6500 to any other Dell laptop but it's not actully my laptop but my employer's so I have to stick with it at least two and half year.
I've been saying the same thing for almost 10 years now. Every time I've been blamed as a "troll". I'd like to have web which just displays information without hundreds of lines of CSS masturbation. For any more complex things I prefer rich apps which uses Web Services (or whatever) when communicating with server(s).
But if five billion other internet users wants to have HTML5, CSS, JavaScript, Flash, etc. etc. who am I argue with them.
Bacteria is living thing! with feelings! We mustn't program them against their will!
Funny thing. Finland's press exercise censorship of their own but I guess that doesn't drop positions on that list. There's some cases where Finnish press doesn't tell exactly the truth or at least the whole truth about things and in some cases they tell outright lies. You just have to know how to read our news. Usually combining facts from different media sources you get the whole picture.
So if this kind of censorship is taken in account Finland wouldn't be number one.
You mean the government can't keep you safe and give information to the people (to the electorate) at the same time? If that's the case then there wouldn't be crimes in Finland at all!
I think everyone should read Frank Herbert's Chapterhouse: Dune and the discussions between Spider Queen and Lucilla about politics and democracy. There's a lot of truth in there if you compare it to a real world democratic state.
I'm not sure if Google can be thought to have monopoly on search markets, and I'm too lazy to read about the case, but if EU thinks so the rules will change. Just like Microsoft was forced to provide browser choice dialog with Windows although one would presume that Windows comes with Internet Explorer.
Shag? Girlfriend!? I still don't get it...
Six? Hell, I was writing my first app with Vic20 when I was six! Poking this and peeking that...
We are pretty much pissed off in Finland too. But it's not because of other countries like Iceland or Ireland. It's because our braindead politicians think that Finland has endless amounts of money which can be shared to the rest of the world. I'm not really sure what's our Minister of Finance's idea to throw money away but I'm sure he is benefiting somehow from all of this.
Sometimes I really hate this socialist country. Luckily we have elections coming.
I thought they owned Xenix and still has some of their copyrighted stuff in Unix? Are we in disaster now?