8-track? I think vinyl would have been a better analogy. Mp3s will never go completely away since they still have, and will still have, some use. But 8-tracks were an actual offense to music (yes, I'm that old). I don't remember any other format that violently cut a song in half so that the friggin thing could switch to side two. Once casette tapes came out, 8-tracks were dumped hard by everybody. By contrast, while vinyl majorly died off, it still holds a nostalgic quality and has its niche purposes among enthusiasts who just can't give up THE sound a vinyl album produces (I prefer "The Wall" on vinyl -- it's hard to stop thinking of it as four sides to two vinyl disks).
The days of the 8-track is like a bad memory to me....
Etymology, of course, from the Greek: "etymos," meaning "true" and "logos" meaning "word" or, "the study of"... i.e,. "the study of true word origins...."
And that was an etymology of the word "etymology."
I'm not sure those bigger AV companies will be able to protect themselves. They are slow in responding to threats much less threats against themselves.
I put together this report for our project team recently. The sources are MCI, Verisign, et al (mostly, esecurityplanet.com article -- yes, google makes reports easy/fun).
Wait time for AV fix
(source: http://www.esecurityplanet.com/views/article.php/3 316511)
Below marks the average wait time from release of virus to each company providing definitions to find/clean
The averages vary from about 7 hours per virus to more than one full day (almost 30 hours).
It's important to note two things about the figures in the table above:
Some of the programs were able to detect some of the viruses in the testing period heuristically -- without needing an update. Ikarus, Quickheal, and Virusbuster were able to do this with the Dumaru.Y virus, whereas Norman and RAV were able to do it with Bagle.B. In those cases, the anti-virus program was assigned a response time of zero for that one virus. This reduced those vendors' average response times.
On the other hand, A2 had not posted a signature for the Bagle.B virus within three days, when the test period ended. This program, therefore, was assigned a response time of 35 hours in this instance. If this virus had not been considered in the statistics, A2's average response time would have been reduced to 15:26 rather than 24:12.
Hours to saturation/Dollar damage done by:
Klez 2.5 hours $9B
Sobig 10 hours $14B
2003 overall virus damage $89B
Average cost to patch and protect one workstation (includes AV, PM & FW): $234.
Global spam decreased in August 2004 due to hurricanes (FL is the largest producer of global spam).
I know it's so late that no one will read this post, but I saw this blurb on/. earlier this week and just now downloaded the torrent and watched it.
What I saw was Socrates, the gadfly, speaking truth to the Athenians. The truth is too much. It throws the hearers off balance and they cannot handle it. Just like Socrates, Stewart became -- that day -- the antithesis to their stale thesis.
This guy needs to do whatever he can to keep saying what he said on that show. Unlike Socrates, I do not think he will killed for it....
There's a clear bias here. We cannot hold it against one company for using patents to defend their interests, and then not hold it against another company for using their patents to defend their interests.
Confused?
Let's at least try a little objectivity. SCO tries to use their patents to come against companies profiting off of Open Source = bad.
Novell uses their patents to warn others not to sue them for using Open Source = good.
To be consistent you must frown upon this move by Novell, not pat them on the back.
"Hey you guys! Don't put rocks in your snow balls! You're gonna hurt someone" [whisper] "ok, here, start making our snow balls with rocks in 'em...."
And your suggestion of checking people out back then too -- duh. There was always the BBB, but that only goes so far. Companies can be so new that there's not been time for them to build a bad record, and changing names and re-registering with the BBB is classic and was common back then, so the only way to check them out was flawed. The BBB only serves a purpose if the company has been around for years with an established record
Today, you can check something you couldn't back then so easily: direct user feedback. There are sites now that list companies and user experiences. Five star systems, percentage rankings, number of feedback for and against, narratives on what they buyers went through, etc. This stuff was unattainable "back then."
I bought my first 386 through CS: 1MB RAM, monochrome monitor, conner 200something HD. I called the company back later to get a price check on a soundcard and the guy yelled at me -- he was stressed or something and only took purchases, no price check cowboy! I think the name of the company was Hitek or something. Later, my buddy paid waaay too much for a 486 through a company in CS called "Legacy Computers" I think it was. They promptly went out of business and so did his warranty.
CS was a mammoth book of companies that apparently did not have to meet any criteria. The present online way of doing business with sellers, being able to check their consumer ratings, etc., is how it should be.
No/. reader should be surprised by the death of any paper-based technical periodical, especially one replaced by the modern, searchable, web....
Of course they aren't paying any attention. People just aren't knowledgeable enough about the threat of cybersecurity to give a shit. These people think that there is a real threat that their house may be singled out in a dirty-bomb attack because the Bush administration is happy to have them think that. As long as the Bush administration can keep people's minds on a single track of terrorism there's no need to bring to light other avenues of attack. Why should they diversify right now? They might bore the public with their "crying wolf" on dirty-bombs and airplane searches and would need another shiny object to get everyone to pay attention to.
The Bush administration has raised awareness on cyber security. Many positions around the country have been created dealing with cyber security and are still being created thanks in large part to the work of the department of homeland security. Terrorism is a real threat. It so happened to have taken out a land mark ya know, and was indeed a very seminal event in our time. How can that fact be glossed over? The fact that physical threats are indeed a greater matter does not nullify the fact that all is being done that seems reasonable in all other areas of security including cyber. Perhaps the DoHLS is having issues and troubles, but that's par for a new 'anything.' You're piling on. 15 yards! First down!
About 90 percent of computer users interviewed remembered the name of the performer from the last Super Bowl halftime show, while only 60 percent knew when they last updated their computer security program.
How could anyone forget the name of the boob owner? Wtf? This post got modded up to five?
No fucking way, people remember the name of a performer from the Super Bowl after it was banged into their heads on every media outlet for two months straight? OMFG, I cannot believe it. You mean that these same people who are so concerned with the atrocities being fed to them on TV aren't concerned or knowledgeable about their computer? I can't believe it!
Wow. I think a post need only to have two words in it "Bush sucks" to get at least 3 good mod point.... This is turning into such tripe....
Face it, people don't give two flying fucks about being educated in computer know-how. They want to flip the switch and have it work. If it doesn't work they want to call up their ISP and have them fix it. Their computer is a dumb terminal for their ISP's webpage and http://www.thehun.com. As far as people guessing their chances at being hit by malicious code... They probably seriously believe that malicious code means that they bring home a disk and put it in their drive and run a program that will be an old-sk00l virus. They have no idea that there are programs out there "spying" on them every minute of their surfing experience. They just don't care enough to know. Plus these same people probably do think that their chances of hitting the lottery are good as they are dumb enough to ignore real news for their own realm of importance (Reality TV).
Bill
Bill, I'll this for ya, you're playing to the right crowd.
Ethics can get tricky, and gray areas surely exist, but sometimes, the ends justifies the means. It isn't a perfect world we live in, and hiring the imperfect -- a cyber criminal -- to produce what you hope to be a better product is understandable.
To use an ethical model: "is" does not equal "ought."
But "is" is often the best of all possibilities....
Didn't know that about the alarm thing, and, yes, I'd like a car that can do everything including drawing knock-out blondes to willingly climb into the passenger seat as well as a car that will open and hand me a beer -- oh wait, that's illegal too, shit....
So you're telling me that car manufacturers don't do specific things for specific countries for specific reasons? Get over it. Stop looking to be insulted. You'll get insulted all the time otherwise....
Technology is already available that could prevent the need to write speeding tickets. There is no incentive because it's an industry -- a market. It's like divorce. There's an entire industry built around it that's never advertised but that churns and burns on billions from it: lawyers, realtors, counselors... they're making a killing off divorce.
likewise, local governments and insurance companies are making a killing off of speeding tickets. It's ludicrous....
I can tell you one they won't do: they won't ever do anything to keep you from getting a speeding ticket. I.e., wtf does my car go faster than any legal speed limit in any state of the union? Do they imagine a time when I need to go that fast? If so, where are the laws that would allow for speeding? Why do cops never hide waiting for speeders going uphill?
Insurance companies, cities, states, local governments are running a racket with speeding tickets, and I can promise you this will never change no matter what technological advances there are. They're always going to allow drivers to break it and they're always going to profit from it....
Many "kiddies" start out to "see what they can see" and end up stumbling upon something they perceive as serendipitous: a database of credit card numbers, a company's financial statements, etc. Once just curious, they "see green" and the gears start churning. Before too long they are making purchases with credit card numbers not theirs and/or they're trying to threaten/extort/blackmail a company into paying them money so they'll not release some damning information they've uncovered.
So for those who advocate the freedom to "see what I can see" take note of the small leap toward real criminal behavior....
Right, but Q36 is a mistake. He's saying "PU-36" as that link you post makes note of (people who don't know any better think the "PU" is actually "Q"). Honestly, when reading about it on the web in the past (yes, I'mma sad geek) it was obvious that both were used, albeit, "PU" is correct whereas "Q" is simply a folk etymology....
Steve Jobs was questioned, lightly, regarding his pronunciation of "Jaguar" as "Jagwire." Of course, he isn't a republican president, so such things do not make him an instant idiot....
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What about Godzuki? How on earth could they leave him out?
http://web.cetlink.net/~farrier/Gfaq.htm
Yes, yes, I know, only Hanna Barbera had Godzuki, but, still, I loved him....
8-track? I think vinyl would have been a better analogy. Mp3s will never go completely away since they still have, and will still have, some use. But 8-tracks were an actual offense to music (yes, I'm that old). I don't remember any other format that violently cut a song in half so that the friggin thing could switch to side two. Once casette tapes came out, 8-tracks were dumped hard by everybody. By contrast, while vinyl majorly died off, it still holds a nostalgic quality and has its niche purposes among enthusiasts who just can't give up THE sound a vinyl album produces (I prefer "The Wall" on vinyl -- it's hard to stop thinking of it as four sides to two vinyl disks).
The days of the 8-track is like a bad memory to me....
Etymology, of course, from the Greek: "etymos," meaning "true" and "logos" meaning "word" or, "the study of" ... i.e,. "the study of true word origins...."
And that was an etymology of the word "etymology."
Thank you, come again (running now)....
I'm not sure those bigger AV companies will be able to protect themselves. They are slow in responding to threats much less threats against themselves.
3 316511)
I put together this report for our project team recently. The sources are MCI, Verisign, et al (mostly, esecurityplanet.com article -- yes, google makes reports easy/fun).
Wait time for AV fix
(source: http://www.esecurityplanet.com/views/article.php/
Below marks the average wait time from release of virus to each company providing definitions to find/clean
H:M Anti-Virus Program
06:51 Kaspersky
08:21 Bitdefender
08:45 Virusbuster
09:08 F-Secure
09:16 F-Prot
09:16 RAV
09:24 AntiVir
10:31 Quickheal
10:52 InoculateIT-CA
11:30 Ikarus
12:00 AVG
12:17 Avast
12:22 Sophos
12:31 Dr. Web
13:06 Trend Micro
13:10 Norman
13:59 Command
14:04 Panda
17:16 Esafe
24:12 A2
26:11 McAfee
27:10 Symantec
29:45 InoculateIT-VET
The averages vary from about 7 hours per virus to more than one full day (almost 30 hours). It's important to note two things about the figures in the table above:
Some of the programs were able to detect some of the viruses in the testing period heuristically -- without needing an update. Ikarus, Quickheal, and Virusbuster were able to do this with the Dumaru.Y virus, whereas Norman and RAV were able to do it with Bagle.B. In those cases, the anti-virus program was assigned a response time of zero for that one virus. This reduced those vendors' average response times.
On the other hand, A2 had not posted a signature for the Bagle.B virus within three days, when the test period ended. This program, therefore, was assigned a response time of 35 hours in this instance. If this virus had not been considered in the statistics, A2's average response time would have been reduced to 15:26 rather than 24:12.
Hours to saturation/Dollar damage done by:
Klez 2.5 hours $9B
Sobig 10 hours $14B
2003 overall virus damage $89B
Average cost to patch and protect one workstation (includes AV, PM & FW): $234.
Global spam decreased in August 2004 due to hurricanes (FL is the largest producer of global spam).
Actually making music with bagpipes might help too....
They need to use better marketing techniques. Like, placing a blow-up doll's body, or manikin, under the head of that woman's face on the monitor....
An estimated 25,000 fans in 1,200 stores celebrated the anniversary Saturday
And only 2 women were pissed at their husbands cuz of the event....
I know it's so late that no one will read this post, but I saw this blurb on /. earlier this week and just now downloaded the torrent and watched it.
What I saw was Socrates, the gadfly, speaking truth to the Athenians. The truth is too much. It throws the hearers off balance and they cannot handle it. Just like Socrates, Stewart became -- that day -- the antithesis to their stale thesis.
This guy needs to do whatever he can to keep saying what he said on that show. Unlike Socrates, I do not think he will killed for it....
There's a clear bias here. We cannot hold it against one company for using patents to defend their interests, and then not hold it against another company for using their patents to defend their interests.
Confused?
Let's at least try a little objectivity. SCO tries to use their patents to come against companies profiting off of Open Source = bad.
Novell uses their patents to warn others not to sue them for using Open Source = good.
To be consistent you must frown upon this move by Novell, not pat them on the back.
"Hey you guys! Don't put rocks in your snow balls! You're gonna hurt someone" [whisper] "ok, here, start making our snow balls with rocks in 'em...."
And your suggestion of checking people out back then too -- duh. There was always the BBB, but that only goes so far. Companies can be so new that there's not been time for them to build a bad record, and changing names and re-registering with the BBB is classic and was common back then, so the only way to check them out was flawed. The BBB only serves a purpose if the company has been around for years with an established record
Today, you can check something you couldn't back then so easily: direct user feedback. There are sites now that list companies and user experiences. Five star systems, percentage rankings, number of feedback for and against, narratives on what they buyers went through, etc. This stuff was unattainable "back then."
I question whether you were born "back then...."
I have never before, nor since, had any reservations about contacting any company and inquiring as to prices on products they sell....
Next week: why the operator yells at you for using Information
I bought my first 386 through CS: 1MB RAM, monochrome monitor, conner 200something HD. I called the company back later to get a price check on a soundcard and the guy yelled at me -- he was stressed or something and only took purchases, no price check cowboy! I think the name of the company was Hitek or something. Later, my buddy paid waaay too much for a 486 through a company in CS called "Legacy Computers" I think it was. They promptly went out of business and so did his warranty.
/. reader should be surprised by the death of any paper-based technical periodical, especially one replaced by the modern, searchable, web....
CS was a mammoth book of companies that apparently did not have to meet any criteria. The present online way of doing business with sellers, being able to check their consumer ratings, etc., is how it should be.
No
Dave Callaham: "I finally got the bastards to agree to more friggin ammo...."
Of course they aren't paying any attention. People just aren't knowledgeable enough about the threat of cybersecurity to give a shit. These people think that there is a real threat that their house may be singled out in a dirty-bomb attack because the Bush administration is happy to have them think that. As long as the Bush administration can keep people's minds on a single track of terrorism there's no need to bring to light other avenues of attack. Why should they diversify right now? They might bore the public with their "crying wolf" on dirty-bombs and airplane searches and would need another shiny object to get everyone to pay attention to.
The Bush administration has raised awareness on cyber security. Many positions around the country have been created dealing with cyber security and are still being created thanks in large part to the work of the department of homeland security. Terrorism is a real threat. It so happened to have taken out a land mark ya know, and was indeed a very seminal event in our time. How can that fact be glossed over? The fact that physical threats are indeed a greater matter does not nullify the fact that all is being done that seems reasonable in all other areas of security including cyber. Perhaps the DoHLS is having issues and troubles, but that's par for a new 'anything.' You're piling on. 15 yards! First down!
About 90 percent of computer users interviewed remembered the name of the performer from the last Super Bowl halftime show, while only 60 percent knew when they last updated their computer security program.
How could anyone forget the name of the boob owner? Wtf? This post got modded up to five?
No fucking way, people remember the name of a performer from the Super Bowl after it was banged into their heads on every media outlet for two months straight? OMFG, I cannot believe it. You mean that these same people who are so concerned with the atrocities being fed to them on TV aren't concerned or knowledgeable about their computer? I can't believe it!
Wow. I think a post need only to have two words in it "Bush sucks" to get at least 3 good mod point.... This is turning into such tripe....
Face it, people don't give two flying fucks about being educated in computer know-how. They want to flip the switch and have it work. If it doesn't work they want to call up their ISP and have them fix it. Their computer is a dumb terminal for their ISP's webpage and http://www.thehun.com. As far as people guessing their chances at being hit by malicious code... They probably seriously believe that malicious code means that they bring home a disk and put it in their drive and run a program that will be an old-sk00l virus. They have no idea that there are programs out there "spying" on them every minute of their surfing experience. They just don't care enough to know. Plus these same people probably do think that their chances of hitting the lottery are good as they are dumb enough to ignore real news for their own realm of importance (Reality TV). Bill
Bill, I'll this for ya, you're playing to the right crowd.
Ethics can get tricky, and gray areas surely exist, but sometimes, the ends justifies the means. It isn't a perfect world we live in, and hiring the imperfect -- a cyber criminal -- to produce what you hope to be a better product is understandable.
To use an ethical model: "is" does not equal "ought."
But "is" is often the best of all possibilities....
No, but I did sleep at a holiday inn express....
Didn't know that about the alarm thing, and, yes, I'd like a car that can do everything including drawing knock-out blondes to willingly climb into the passenger seat as well as a car that will open and hand me a beer -- oh wait, that's illegal too, shit....
So you're telling me that car manufacturers don't do specific things for specific countries for specific reasons? Get over it. Stop looking to be insulted. You'll get insulted all the time otherwise....
... they're making a killing off divorce.
Technology is already available that could prevent the need to write speeding tickets. There is no incentive because it's an industry -- a market. It's like divorce. There's an entire industry built around it that's never advertised but that churns and burns on billions from it: lawyers, realtors, counselors
likewise, local governments and insurance companies are making a killing off of speeding tickets. It's ludicrous....
I can tell you one they won't do: they won't ever do anything to keep you from getting a speeding ticket. I.e., wtf does my car go faster than any legal speed limit in any state of the union? Do they imagine a time when I need to go that fast? If so, where are the laws that would allow for speeding? Why do cops never hide waiting for speeders going uphill?
/rant
Insurance companies, cities, states, local governments are running a racket with speeding tickets, and I can promise you this will never change no matter what technological advances there are. They're always going to allow drivers to break it and they're always going to profit from it....
Ok, ok, yes, I recently got a speeding ticket....
Many "kiddies" start out to "see what they can see" and end up stumbling upon something they perceive as serendipitous: a database of credit card numbers, a company's financial statements, etc. Once just curious, they "see green" and the gears start churning. Before too long they are making purchases with credit card numbers not theirs and/or they're trying to threaten/extort/blackmail a company into paying them money so they'll not release some damning information they've uncovered.
So for those who advocate the freedom to "see what I can see" take note of the small leap toward real criminal behavior....
Right, but Q36 is a mistake. He's saying "PU-36" as that link you post makes note of (people who don't know any better think the "PU" is actually "Q"). Honestly, when reading about it on the web in the past (yes, I'mma sad geek) it was obvious that both were used, albeit, "PU" is correct whereas "Q" is simply a folk etymology....
Which is completely different from the Illudium Q36 explosive space modulator.
Which is totally different from your bucketofshit head....
http://www.tvacres.com/aliens_martians_marvin.htm
water vapour and methane in the atmosphere
Nah, that's just residue from the Uranium PU-36 Explosive Space Modulator....
how they move without falling over.
A study that hopes to lead to helping people push a large "yes" or a large "no" on a voting touch screen....
Steve Jobs was questioned, lightly, regarding his pronunciation of "Jaguar" as "Jagwire." Of course, he isn't a republican president, so such things do not make him an instant idiot....