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Godless Godzilla and Godzilla at 50
pjones writes " Monster Zero reports that Toho has taken the God out of Godzilla leaving us with the affectionate if diminished name of 'Zilla.' But only the American Godzilla will become godless. 'Godzilla' is reserved for our suitmation favorite, while his rival, now called 'Zilla,' is the name for the computer generated star (?) of Godzilla 98. And yes we will see the two in mortal combat with 10 other monsters in Godzilla: Final Wars. In the meantime, Godzilla at 50 events are beginning world-wide. Leave it to Kansas to hold an academic conference, 'In the Footsteps of Godzilla'. In San Francisco, the plans are more gala where more films and more Godzilla involved personalities are part of the plans for GodzillaFest which will feature 20 films (not all feature Godzilla). Any other Gojira/Godzilla/Zilla events?"
Wasn't there a story last year saying they were putting G into semi-retirement, due to long term overexposure?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I tried to run the OP through Babelfish, but it still made no sense...
Wtf is the writer trying to say?
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As an athiest, I support Zilla !
I heard he's really neat and full of Turtle Meat.
Is mozilla the illigitimate child of godzilla and opera?!???!!!???
I don't get it
May God(zilla) have mercy on that 1998 mockery that dared to claim the same name.
Oh by the by, I hope he eat Brodderick as well for the crime of being in that movie.
Atomic Flame Breath on!
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... they probably figure Godzilla was just too
big to fit on Noah's Ark.
What about Godzuki? How on earth could they leave him out?
http://web.cetlink.net/~farrier/Gfaq.htm
Yes, yes, I know, only Hanna Barbera had Godzuki, but, still, I loved him....
"All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
I'm surprised the OP didn't mention that Godzilla is getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame at the U.S. premiere of Godzilla: Final Wars on November 29.
Godzilla vs. Bootzilla, baby...
He with the most funk shall win...(that and some really cool shades.)
"Give me taste, give me funk, give me fury, gimme some more."
After reading the article a couple of times, I believe they are trying to separate Suit-Up Godzilla from the Computer-Generated Godzilla.
If you think of it as the opposite of USB 2.0, it all makes sense.
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
....who didn't understand one IOTA of what this post is about? Apologies to Gary Larson:
What we hear is: blah blah blah GODZILLA blah blah blah GODZILLA blah blah GODZILLA blah blah....
What does it mean to wake out of a dream
and be wearing someone else's shorts?
BNL, Born on a Pirate Ship (1998)
He's the source of all our pain!
maybe they should consider a Bridezilla event?
...the "Godzilla: Final Wars" page, the (possibly incomplete) list of other monsters appearing is:
- Gigan
- Rodan
- Minilla
- Mothra
- Kamacuras
- Kumonga
- Manda
- Ebirah
- Anguirus
- King Caesar
- Hedorah
- Monster X
But only the American Godzilla will become godless.
Personally I'd be a lot happier if America would become God-less. It would solve a whole lot of problems.
I summon... Rent-a-Zilla
-jim
...that read the story and went: WTF?!
Probbly..
Why is it so hot? Where am I going? What am I doing in this handbasket?
I for one am much more impressed by all of the movies now that I know that it isn't just a guy in a suit but is in fact a whole process called suitmation.
No one, can retire Gojira. No one!
Anyway: Godzilla is believed to have originally been intended by Toho (productions company) to represent the United States of America (being superior in its destructive capability)The name "Gojira" is a combination of "gorilla" and kujira, which means "whale" in Japanese." -wikipedia
The article is slashdotted already, but perhaps Toho has gotten over its fear of destruction of America? Or conversly, perhaps they are more scared of America and removed the "Gorilla" as not to offend a certain American who looks somewhat like a.... oh nevermind.
Personally, I'd like to sue the religious-fanatic who pressured them into this.
leave it to Kansas to hold an academic conference, 'In the Footsteps of Godzilla'.
I don't get it. Why is it especially appropriate for Kansas to do this?
Nietzsche said it long ago !
A couple of interesting links showed up while I was lloking for this, too. It seems that the holders of the *zilla copyright are about as uncouth as Godzilla itself: square-zilla and davezilla.
See what I've been reading.
Now, don't slander all Kansans with that remark. Those KU Jailbirds have always had a weird sense of what's considered academic. you certainly wouldn't see K-State hosting such fluff!
Perhaps it is just political correctness gone out of control (again)?
Love sees no species.
because, 1) It wasn't set in Tokyo, thus no semi-clad bikini idol was cast the female lead. 2) Gozilla didn't fight no'one 'cept tanks, Rohdan should've been cast. Don't tell me a movie with giant lizard and a hot girl won't do well. And I'm not just saying that cuz that could be the plot of a porno movie.
Finally! Evidence of a 'Weapon of Mass Destruction'! I knew if we just waited long enough it would be found.
Eat Puff Daddy too for making that horrid Zeppelin remix on the soundtrack.
Godzilla Sushi. My favorite at Lotus Blossom.
If I remember it has eel, and each of the Sushi is topped with a different color of roe.
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HEY !!
Stop saying that or tell me where to get it. I am sick of Y'all telling me to get a Life and yet I cant seem to find it anywhere in this place.
Next, you know you will be telling me to get a girlfriend, the mythical creature that many slashdotters have wasted their lives, in search of.
Remember slashdotters there is no proof that world exists outside our basements with all these pretty creatures with long hair. For all you know, whatever we see about the "outside world" on the internet might be part of a ploy to lead us outside where they can pounce on us
Yeah
"You will have no Godzillas before me!"
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
I'm an expert on what they say about Gozilla in Japan--they usually say something to the effect of:
Eeeek! Go-jirra!! Ack!
If you're in doubt, or unclear just assume they are lamenting their untimly death.
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From reading the article, what I think is happening is that Toho is making a new Godzilla movie in which the Japanese Godzilla (named "Godzilla) fights the American Godzilla (named "Zilla"). Hopefully, Godzilla will not only kill Zilla in a violent and bloody manner, but somehow manage to defeat Matthew Broderick at the same time.
Of course, I might be wrong. That was one of the least understandable article summaries I've ever read in my life.
Comment of the year
We all know about the tension between the owners of the godzilla name and mozilla. Given the latter is a knockoff of the formers name and also uses a giant (at one time green) lizard as its symbol, it is unsurprising that the following comment is in the article:
"In America there are imitation products on the market that have the name"Zilla."
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
I think more to the point is that Godzilla (suit)is going to do battle with Zilla (CG). That is probably the reason for the name change, otherwise it would be a Godzilla vs Godzilla battle.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Or you could just use some basic, common-sense like deductive skills...
Oh, right. Against Slashdot policy.
PUT GOD BACK
I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
I will be drinking and fucking, same as any other day.
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a goddamned piece of paper!" - George W. Bush Nov. 2005
As noted, only the American version is being called Zilla....because the Japanese regard him as being a weak-dick knockoff of the real thing. What they don't realize is that we pretty much think the same thing. Japanese fans call the American version GINO, an acronym for Godzilla In Name Only.
Anyway, they put this fight in here to stick it to the American filmakers that created the overgrown iguana; I'd personally like to see Godzilla tear him to pieces, then turn around and take a big nuclear shit on his carcass, while the other monsters stand around and laugh at him.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Man, first they take God out of the schools, now they're taking him out of the monsters. What next?
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In a related story, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that when saying the pledge of allegience all school children must say "under zilla."
Have fun: Join D.N.A. (National Dyslexics Association)
I think "Follow me or spend eternity in horrible pain" is a stronger motivator than "Follow me or our taxes will double!".
I mean...really...If political parties were as movtivating as religion, we'd have alot more registered voters.
Blar.
Next time you see the great popcorn adventure "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" (I highly recommend it), watch the newspapers that flow on-screen early in the movie after the first attack in New York.
One Japanese paper shows a very familar outline of our favorite destroyer, ostensibly taking on the robots.
Next to Sir Laurence Olivier finding work in the movie (despite being dead), it was one of the many funny in-jokes of the movie. The link above details more.
Vos teneo officium eram periculosus ut vos recipero is.
I remember watching old black & white Godzilla movies as a kid on Saturday mornings. Watching Godzilla stomping on all those toy buses, trains, and buildings was great fun. The best though was when all the Japanese actors would be talking (or yelling and screaming) and the English words never matched their mouths. Great "B" movies never die, just like Godzilla.
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Dude George, shut up. I know it's you.
in the words of the immortal(?) Harry Knowles:
"MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT!!!"
thank you
May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage. RAmen.
...Because as The Shining taught me, imaginary friends belong in your mouth.
Blar.
it reminds me of the south park episode about the pokemons
This is the funniest skit i've ever read since "Who's on First".
http://www.comcentral.com/mp/play.jhtml?player=rea lplayer&type=v&quality=high&reposid=/multimedia/ch appelle/showclips_s1/109_blackzilla.html
Imagine Goldmember this way:
Japanese Man 1 : RUN! IT'S ZILLA!
Japanese Man 2 : It looks like Zilla, but due to international copyright laws - it's not.
Japanese Man 1 : STILL! WE SHOULD RUN LIKE IT IS ZILLA!
Japanese Man 2 : Though it isn't.
No.. it just isn't as funny..
Yes, that's the list. Funny thing about it, though...
There are advertisements available on the Internet which show clips of each of the monsters. Minilla, the much-hated "Son of Godzilla" in the awful G-films of the 60s, is not shown. A monster that is shown, however, is GINO -- the nickname given to the Hollywood Godzilla (Godzilla In Name Only). So this leads to an interesting idea: is Toho going to refer to the Hollywood Godzilla as Minilla in "Godzilla Final Wars?" That would be an incredible "fuck you" to the bastards at Tri-Star who took Japan's most pervasive contribution to world culture and turned it into a brainless, typical Hollywood summer blockbuster.
Perhaps it is too much to hope for. But consider these facts. First, Toho has already said this is going to be the last film for a long time. No need to worry about retribution from offended TriStar studio executives. Second, Toho seems to be making this film as a legitimate thank you to all their fans. The budget for this film is several times larger than in a typical film. What better way to tickle their fans then to mock GINO?
GMD
watch this
The CG Godzilla looked so much better than their guy in a shitty suit that was so bad they wouldn't use it in a power rangers episode.
The following release indicates he died at the ago of 453 in San Francisco: http://www.walpow.com/pages/stories/godzilla.htm
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Reasons to be cheerful, Part III.
leave it to Kansas to hold an academic conference, 'In the Footsteps of Godzilla'.
I don't get it. Why is it especially appropriate for Kansas to do this?
Maybe because Kansas is so damn flat it looks like Godzilla stomped everything that was once there into the ground. Get it? "Footsteps of Godzilla?" You see, his footsteps from his stomping...ah, forget it.
That entire submission was a little hard to understand. I'm not sure it was meant to claim there was any particular reason why it should be held in Kansas. Maybe we're both too dense to figure it out...
GMD
watch this
Check out the director on Godzilla: Final Wars. It's non other than Ryuhei Kitamura, of Versus and Azumi fame. People who have seen those movies know it's probably gonna be the zaniest Godzilla movie yet! ;)
... took the Godzilla out of the World Series.
hopefully that clears things up
WTPOUAWYHTTOTWPA
What's the point of using acronyms when you have to type out the whole phrase anyways?
Was political corectness ever IN control?
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
Oh yeah, sure, you know... if we keep removing "God" from everything in our lives, eventually God is going to get pissed off. Not to sound all hokey about this, but really ask yourself... you think the sudden increase in CO2 levels is just a fluke? Ask yourself, do you think this discrediting story is really true, or not? Odd, the weather has been strange lately - especially since we're 40 degrees above normal temperature here.
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at the end of the fight between Godzilla and Zilla...
Mozilla will appear and trash them both to ashes.
You heard it here first.
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Shit, I missed the boat. I am of the 'religion is a buncha hooey' camp, but I just figured it was a story about a guy in a rubber suit.
You might reconsider the concept of the persecuted majority here, friend.
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
Despite the affection i have for the old rubber-suit Godzilla and the problems that we all had with the American movie, i think that one really ought to be able to kick the rubber suit's ass. It would run circles around Suitzilla!
Of course, this isn't about what would happen. Zilla has to die because this is really just some pseudo-nationalist geek ego-fest.
Seriously, that Zilla movie was the worst abomination to Godzilla I have ever seen. I spent my childhood watching Gozilla movies on Saturday & Sundays enjoying every minute, until Hollywood ruined it. We need to Boycott Hollywood, and stop them from importing movies(Shall We Dance, The Ring).
The last time there was an all-star monster cast like this in a film was the 1969 Destroy All Monsters. But don't expect a repeat of that finale with all the monsters ganging up on Ghidora. Based on what I've read, the director is in favor of a very powerful Godzilla. One so powerful that a single blast from his breath weapon will be enough to dispatch a foe (similiar to his fight with Baragon in the 2001 film "Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidora: Giant Monsters All Out Attack"). Also, the plot seems to indicate that most of the monsters are going to be wiped out by aliens who arrive on Earth just in the nick of time (hmmmm) to save us.
I, for one, have never understood why Toho doesn't film more multi-monster battles? All Godzilla's fights seem to be one-on-one. There are times where multiple monsters are present (e.g., Godzilla and MOGERA team against SpaceGodzilla, Mothra and Battra against Godzilla) but even in those cases the action is really limited to one monster attacking another and the others just standing around watching. Surely they should be able to choreograph these fights to make them a little more exciting. I mean, Kamacuras is nothing more than a giant Praying Mantis. So it's not going to fare to well against, say, Gigan. But you get Kamacuras, Manda, and Kumonga to simultaneously attack Gigan and now you've got a real fight!
GMD
watch this
If anyone is in the midwest area and wants to go to an event: KU is hosting a major Godzilla film fest and other workshops.
http://www.g2004.net/godzilla/
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It spossible to be religious without going to a building. How can you be politicol without voting, the most basic part of the whole process?
Blar.
Zilla has been renamed to Firemonsterfox.
"plans are more Gallic where more films and more implied Godzilla are part the personalities of the plans"
Are they talking about John Kerry's platform?
Wow, normally I'd say I'd buy a box set of em all but jeebus, that'd be expensive.
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Who would want to see 50-storey monsters knocking out buildings when you can have an army of teeny weeny PokeDigiVideoGamemon that can be trained, traded, and destroy everything under YOUR commands? The larger than life monsters are simply no match against their diminutive monster pet cousins in today's markets.
All these posts and no one mentioned Bambi vs Godzilla?m l
http://www.lowcomdom.com/film/b/bambi_godzilla.ht
Who is John Cabal?
If you want to see what the results of a godless America would be, read the history books. How many tens (upwards of hundreds) of millions of people did Josef Stalin kill in the Gulags of Soviet Russia in the name of atheism? How about communist/atheist Cuba, where people are even to this day imprisoned or executed (often in front of their families) for deviating from the status quo? And how the Cubans try desparately every day to get into this country? How about godless China, where the government executed thousands of innocent students for doing nothing more than protesting in the name of democracy? The absence of a belief in God drives people to do awful, horrific things.
So you may want your godless society but I'm sorry to say that you will not get it, so long as the majority of people in this country fear and support God and as long as we have a second ammendment. This is one nation under God.
Therefore, Godzilla could fight (God)Zilla without a name change... it would just get very confusing. But, then again, Godzilla has fought Mechagodzilla and Space Godzilla...
Speaking as a fan of the Godzilla franchise: I'm cool with the Zilla name. The continuity is so shaky over the past 50 years that doing this really doesn't bother me one bit. And, frankly it sounds like Final Wars will be what Destroy All Monsters (the movie, not the videogame) was supposed to be...
You'd think they would have included that in the summary.
This is Slashdot. "WTF" is our middle name.
In Japan it is "Gojira"(katakana). I've got this amazing vinyl LP I picked up in Japan in the 80's with some really cheezy tracks, but the one gem is guitars doing all the sound effects, screaming just like Gojira then the jets fly in and the missiles explode.
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The most horrendous monsters of all...
DiNuCi and RoNuCi.
Run for your lives!
[ob-hint: the letters in caps stand for the two major parties in the USA's political system]
In Japanese, the name is gojira, which is half gorira (Gorilla) and half kujira (Whale), so if anything, they have taken the Gorilla out of Godzilla, which leaves us with a quirky movie about a whale that fights other mutants over Tokyo and millions of screaming Japanese people.
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Hey! I work for the people putting on the Conference in Lawrence, Kansas.
If you go to the website, you can register, all the events are free!!!
Will anyone being seeing the film in Japan?
Who's your user, program?
I recognize all those words, but have no idea what they mean collectively.
Zilla Wafer: looks vaguely like the real thing, smells different, tastes different, crunches different; an imposter! And with any luck, will be turned to pixel pie by the Real G.
I feel compelled to see this movie, as redemption for being stupid enough to buy a ticket for Zilla Wafer in '98.
Has anyone in the states seen the original??
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There's always this alternate spelling, as in Eric Whitacre's "Gawd$illa eats Las Vegas"
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I'd do it myself but the rules don't allow the OP to do that.
I'm talking "Pjones is a comic genius"
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The Three Stooges haved sued the Mozilla project to pursuade them to remove the letters "Mo" from the name of the organzation and the product.
The browser suite Mozilla will now be renamed Zilla.
Read it again.
I said you can celebrate all the national hollidays which every country has.
Every nation?
So I can take off on Antiguan Independence Day (Nov. 1st), Belarus Remembrance Day (Nov. 2nd), Japan's Culture Day (Nov. 3rd), Northern Mariana Island Day of Citizenship (Nov. 4th), Morocco's Anniversary of Green Day March (November 6th), Micronesian Pohnpei Constitution Day
(Nov. 8th), Cambodian Independence Day (Nov. 9th), Veteran's Day (Nov. 11th), Cantebury Day (Nov. 12th), Brazilian Republic Day (Nov. 15th), Bhutan H.M. the King's Birthday (Nov. 16th), Azerbaijani Day of national Revival (Nov. 17th), Uzbekistan Flag Day (Nov. 18th), Belizean Garifuna Day (Nov. 19th), Mexican Revolution Day (November 20th), Swiss Onion Market Day (Nov. 22nd), Japanese Labour Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 23rd), Thanksgiving (Nov.25th), Laotian Water Festival (Nov. 26), French Guiana Kourou Day (Nov. 29th), and Philippines Bonifacio's Day (Nov. 30th)!
I'm starting to like this atheism thing. It's so cosmopolitan!
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.