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Doom Movie Scriptwriter Dave Callaham Interviewed

rsmith-mac writes "The HomeLAN Federation has posted an interview with Dave Callaham, the scriptwriter for the forthcoming Doom movie. The interview goes over id's influences on the movie and willingness to change the mythology to work with the movie, along with the earlier reported studio shift, and some very light details relating to the characters in the story. If all goes as planned, the Doom movie will start principal production this month in order to hit the theaters in August of 2005."

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  1. An excerpt of the interview: by Concern · · Score: 5, Funny

    Interviewer: So, Mr. Callah, let's start with the most important question on everyone's mind. Will there be lava? And, perhaps more importantly, will there be crates?

    Callahan: I want to put everyone's mind to rest on this point. The studio has the best lava people in the business, and they've specifically assured me I will have a free hand.

    Interviewer: Phew. Also, before I forget. we're all dying to know. Will the hero at any point successfully outrun a fireball? This is something that is so important, not only to me, but I think I can speak for all moviegoers out there. It's an image that really really gets better every time I see it.

    Callahan: Well, Ed, I don't want to give too much away, but we briefly considered having the hero run from a nuclear explosion! Don't worry, there'll be plenty of what we know the audience loves most.

    Interviewer: So, let's talk about the plot. Which of the hero's family members will be killed? Mother? Father? Both parents? Or will it be a hero-parent who loses his kids?

    Callahan: Actually, what I'm allowed to say is that we're going a bit unconventional on this. We're going to have a brother and a sister, and each one will lose a parent. I know this is pushing the envelope a bit, but the producers are behind me and I believe the studio will hold off and allow us some of the artistic integerity which we all know is so rare in this business.

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    1. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by operagost · · Score: 1
      Some lines from the leaked script:
      You are huge! That means you have huge guts! RIP AND TEAR!

      I've got a handful of vertebrae and a headful of mad!

      Dance! Dance, bonedaddy!

      Why can't we find a way to safely dispose of radioactive waste and protect the environment? Even if I personally stop this alien invasion, what kind of planet will we be leaving to our children?
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    2. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by DrXym · · Score: 1

      The love interest will be supplied by a flayed (but rather comely) lady zombie who the hero gets to fuck before blowing her away half way through.

    3. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by mirko · · Score: 1

      And a telefrag, please : I want the baddy to look like Jar Jar Binks and to die telefragged :)

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    4. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by Concern · · Score: 1

      I don't know, that' might be a problem. We're still trying for a PG-13 rating.

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    5. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by chucklehuck · · Score: 3, Funny

      The love interest will be supplied by a flayed (but rather comely) lady zombie who the hero gets to fuck before blowing her away half way through.
      Half way through the movie, or half way through intercourse?

    6. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by rpillala · · Score: 1

      The Carmack Automated Mouth has something urgent to tell you:

      http://www.oldmanmurray.com/images/features/cam_ message1.mp3

      http://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/83.html

      (I hope these aren't broken I'm at work and I can't get to them anyway)

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    7. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by Concern · · Score: 0
      John: What's going on? I just shot him 500 times and he's still coming!

      [myg0t]S4t4N: Yeah, that's right. We do go to hell. U g0t h4x0r3d by l33t s4t4n1c ch33t0r b1y4tch!

      John: Gay.

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    8. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by Pentalon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If there's not heavy use of helmet cam shots, then it won't feel real enough.

      Pentalon

    9. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Half way through the movie, or half way through intercourse?

      Yes. :o)

    10. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh dear, where are my mod points when I need them... :(

    11. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Which of the hero's family members will be killed? Mother? Father? Both parents? Or will it be a hero-parent who loses his kids?"

      His pet rabbit, of course. Didn't you play the games?

    12. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by computechnica · · Score: 1

      When my son's play Quake 3 they usually play as Storm-troopers against a team of Jar-Jar and Spongebob bots. 8^)

    13. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'd get tired of that, but on the other hand it would be interesting from a cinematic standpoint to film an entire movie in the first person.

    14. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by theMightyE · · Score: 1

      Will it be filmed in first-person view or third-person view? Will the DVD come with an option that lets us switch between the two to look around corners?

    15. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      Since when is an apostrophe used to denote pluralism?

      America's educational system produces poor English student's.

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    16. Re:An excerpt of the interview: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whereas your country obviously produces pedantic wankers.

      You can go back to reading the dictionary from cover to cover now. You tactless, facile, nitpicking twit.

  2. Sure to be ... by operagost · · Score: 4, Funny

    The best video game movie since Super Mario Brothers!

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    1. Re:Sure to be ... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's funny because this movie has been in the works since Doom II came out. At the time, there was a blurb in PC Gamer about how they were going to make a movie out of Doom. Then Quake came along and there was another blurb about plans having switched to a Quake movie. Now (some decade later) they're talking about a Doom movie again. And every last announcement was supposed to be "a sure thing".

      The only sure thing about Hollywood is that they'll run you around in circles. Maybe we should give the movie to Bollywood. Then the grunt can get up and sing after he kills the evil cacodemon!

    2. Re:Sure to be ... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      If they had only followed 3D Realms instead and thought about a Duke Nukem Forever movie.

      At least they stay focused on one particular first person shooter for long enough to produce a movie about it.

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    3. Re:Sure to be ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This crap is sooooooo lame.

      The Tombraider movies, Resident Evil were such crap. There is good potential in those characters, but you have to have a good script and a good story telling director. And good actors too.

      What's next? Pacman, the movie!!!???

    4. Re:Sure to be ... by jthayden · · Score: 3, Funny

      What about Pong the movie? That would really be spellbinding. Have more plot than Doom too.

    5. Re:Sure to be ... by Ben+Brighton · · Score: 1

      I liked the SMB movie

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    6. Re:Sure to be ... by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There already was a Duke Nukem movie. It was called "Army of Darkness." Hail to the King, baby...

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    7. Re:Sure to be ... by bsharitt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The game franchise I want to see turned into a movie is Warcraft. They could easily make a trilogy on the scale of the Lord of the Rings movies. With the story telling in the game and the back stories in the manuals, I think there is enough there to base a good script on.

    8. Re:Sure to be ... by TheLink · · Score: 1

      "Maybe we should give the movie to Bollywood. Then the grunt can get up and sing after he kills the evil cacodemon!"

      Not before they play hide and seek amongst the trees/pillars first...

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    9. Re:Sure to be ... by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 1

      They just don't want someone coming along and stealing the name so they fake working on movies to keep people from using their trademark, obviously.

    10. Re:Sure to be ... by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      Warcrafts? Up to the level of LotR? Not quite... but you could still make hell of good movies out of them.

      What I'd like to see would be movie versions of the Ultima series. Particularly Ultima VII and Ultima VII part 2. Though there's so much material in the games that it might better work as a DVD-only release or as a TV series.

      ...and now that there's talk about Doom movie again - someone please defrost the Deus Ex movie project too...

    11. Re:Sure to be ... by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      A movie based on a cruddy Microsoft protocol? Bah. Give me SSH: The Motion Picture any day.

    12. Re:Sure to be ... by JFitzsimmons · · Score: 1

      Super Mario Brothers

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    13. Re:Sure to be ... by ThePlague · · Score: 0

      The Doom movie has been "in development" at least since 1998 according to HSX.

    14. Re:Sure to be ... by modecx · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least the guy they found to play the Marine has the weird evil/pleased/constipated grin thing going. And stubbly facial hair, too... Gotta' have that.

      Marine==Karl Urban

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    15. Re:Sure to be ... by static0verdrive · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the OTHER quake movie they were going to release using CGI characters from the Q3: Arena engine... That was AFTER they were going to make a live-action quake 1 movie!!

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    16. Re:Sure to be ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell yes!
      I've been thinking this ever since sometime in 1996 when I saw a TV Adaptation of Robin Hood filmed in Europe. This was important only because the landscape outacted the actors and I thought to myself "Damn! This is Azeroth! Right here!". Then again, when playing the WC games I always tend to hang around the pretty green trees... no matter what my race.

    17. Re:Sure to be ... by sharkey · · Score: 1
      They could easily make a trilogy on the scale of the Lord of the Rings movies.

      Pfffttt. They'd just cut out Uther Lightbringer's parlay with Gul'dan, and the entire "Scouring of Azeroth", where you finally learn Gul'dan's final fate.

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  3. Hopefully... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the producers have both seen Resident Evil: Apocalypse, and hated it.

  4. I'm still waiting for RAMA by jonr · · Score: 1, Funny

    How long has this movie been 'in production'? I have high hopes, since Morgan Freeman has personal interest in this movie.
    First Post?

  5. Great expectations by DrXym · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have high hopes that will be another classic video game transfer. Just like Super Mario Brothers, Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil, Tombraider and Wing Commander.

    1. Re:Great expectations by TwistedSquare · · Score: 1

      You forgot Street Fighter ;-). Seriously though, for what it was (a fun frivolous action movie), I thought Resident Evil was pretty good.

    2. Re:Great expectations by Loco3KGT · · Score: 1

      Right except this plot goes like this:

      Beloved Spare Marine discovers the UAC is responsible for the death of his parents and there's a love story involved.

      WTF? That's not in the game. Game involved killing, killing and more killing. Not parents and women.

      Leave women to the Duke Nukem movie!

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    3. Re:Great expectations by kahei · · Score: 4, Interesting


      Resident Evil (the first one) was an excellent movie, beautifully paced and choreographed (dogs and doors sequence!). Given the director's record in general, this must have been a coincidence, but still, great movie.

      I haven't seen the others you mention but I may decide to give them a miss -- SPECIALLY the Resident Evil sequel.

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    4. Re:Great expectations by jkujawa · · Score: 1

      I thought the second RE movie was good. Different than the first -- different feel, different director, but it was worth seeing in the theater, and I'm going to buy it on DVD when it comes out.

    5. Re:Great expectations by katarac · · Score: 1

      there's a love story involved. With his sister? That's the only woman mentioned in the article...

    6. Re:Great expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And not to forget Final Fantasy: The spirits Within.

      This one had a bit more depth, but not enough. It was also for a smaller market.

      I actually did like it, cause I'm an anime fan, and a 3d art fan.

    7. Re:Great expectations by R.Caley · · Score: 5, Funny
      [there's a love story involved]. With his sister?

      ``Luke, I fragged your father!''

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    8. Re:Great expectations by BigDork1001 · · Score: 2, Informative
      RE 2 seemed more of an action movie than a horror movie. But definatly a good movie.

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    9. Re:Great expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dude this is /. you are not allowed to enjoy films around here. You can only judge them on their technical and artist merit. Only stoopid people actually enjoy films. ;)

    10. Re:Great expectations by Harbinjer · · Score: 1

      I've gotta say I agree. If you look at it from the aspect of a horror/zombie movie, I think it stands up quite well. There's a real plot, characters, subplots, etc. Its far from the best movies out there, but is really in a very different league than the other video game movies. Mortal Kombat and Tomb Raider had some small value, but Super Mario, Wind commander, and Street fighter sucked. They might be entertaining if you're really into the games(probably really hardcore).

      Many video games don't translate too well to movies. I think they did a superb job with Resident Evil.

      I was dissappointed with the sequal though. It just wasn't as good a movie.

      Oh, and Colin Salmon has the coolest voice since James Earl Jones.

    11. Re:Great expectations by kahei · · Score: 1


      Oh. Hmm, in that case I guess I will see it.

      If it's good, I'll owe you a beer.

      But if it's NOT good... your very LIFE shall be FORFEIT!!

      Yay, this is what's so good about BBSes -- both sides can dictate terms unilaterally!

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    12. Re:Great expectations by justkarl · · Score: 1

      How about Double Dragon?

    13. Re:Great expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'm waiting on Crystal Castles the movie.
      Who will get to play bentley bear....

    14. Re:Great expectations by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 1

      I'm going to have to promote Wing Commander and Tomb Raider to you. Tomb Raider seemed to differentiate itself well away from the game so it was enjoyable enough, and I thought Wing Commander was great. I had heard of a game by that name but since I'd never played it I never knew the movie was based on it, and couldn't tell it had anything to do with a game.

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    15. Re:Great expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Leave women to the Duke Nukem movie!"

      Dude, there's already a Duke Nukem movie! It's called "Army of Darkness".

      Shop smart, doofus.

    16. Re:Great expectations by maxpublic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was dissappointed with the sequal though. It just wasn't as good a movie.

      No, but still...Milla Jovovich. That's something that no red-blooded guy can just walk away from - unless he's gay, of course.

      Max

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    17. Re:Great expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/resident_evil/

    18. Re:Great expectations by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      You forgot Street Fighter.

      But then, so did a lot of people.

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    19. Re:Great expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wing Commander isn't put down so much because it was a terrible movie (it really wasn't), but because it was so bizarrely different from the games. However, the game's creator was responsible for the new direction, so it's hard to blame Hollywood for getting it wrong.

    20. Re:Great expectations by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      I'm not a fan of the games, so I can't vouch for accuracy, but I really didn't enjoy the WC movie. Unlike my friends I was able to suspend disbelief for the whole "Das Boot In Space" theme of the physics and combat, but the actual story was dull, scripting was poor, the ending was anticlimactic, the acting was weak, and the whole "colonist" think with the medallion was campy in the extreme.

      Plus I wanted to see more Kilrathi.

    21. Re:Great expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think RE 2 was good you have no taste in movies. That movie sucked sooo big.

      (And most people think RE 1 sucked, though I think it was ok, not the greatest action flick I've ever seen, but it had it's moments.)

    22. Re:Great expectations by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      I don't know why people love to hate Paul W. S. Anderson. I also liked Resident Evil, and Event Horizon is one of the finest space-horror movies since Alien. Soldier was a bit dull though.

      I haven't seen Alien vs. Predator but i've heard it's pretty good (if you, well, want to see Aliens fighting Predators ;) ).

    23. Re:Great expectations by jdbo · · Score: 1

      > Resident Evil (the first one) was an excellent movie,
      > beautifully paced and choreographed

      I'm verging on flamebait here, but the first RE (yes, I have seen it) was the cinematic equivalent of 10-day-old theater popcorn.

      Sure it was technically filling, but overall it was a waste of time that left a bad taste in my mouth and a sore feeling in my stomach.

      The main problem with the movie (which also plagues all the films of its director, Paul Anderson) is that character and plot development are entirely unattended to - eveything is sub-sumed to "kill" or "puzzle" or "fight" set-pieces. Inconsistency and illogic are used to "work-around" anything that might get in the way of setting up these events.

      While this may work in an actual video game, non-interactive storytelling mediums keep the audience engaged in the narrative with characters and story. RE had an elaborate plot, but its characters were entirely plot-driven creatures; there wasn't a single point where they showed actual personalities in any but the crudest, most caricatured ways (and even that was done inconsistently).

      The result is that there's not a single person in the film to care about in any way (i.e. wanting the characters to die would've indicated engagement in the film), thus removing the tension from even its best action sequences faster than air from a broken balloon.

      I've wasted way too much time complaining about this film, but the fact that you rate this an an "excellent" or "great" movie really indicates that you need to watch a wider selection of movies.

      (Heck, most entries in the Zombie genre alone blow RE away. Check out anything by Romero or Argento)

    24. Re:Great expectations by Jonas+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      Um, no it wasn't. It was really bad. Terrible, even. And 65% of critics will back me up.

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    25. Re:Great expectations by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Don't forget both Resident Evils and House of the Dead! Unlike the other respondent, I find the first RE movie to be horrid enough that I momentarilly break character and begin using words like "horrid."

    26. Re:Great expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot Terminator.

  6. Oh dear by delta_avi_delta · · Score: 1

    Resident Evil actually had some plot, and look what happened when they tried to make a movie inspired by that... But a doom movie...

    1. Re:Oh dear by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      Right...no real plot, so they can't mess that up. It's like Predator on crack - in an urban setting...oh wait

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    2. Re:Oh dear by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Don't forget about the Wing Commander series which was already a movie mixed with a game. Yet they screwed even THAT up when they moved it to the big screen. What would be so horrible about taking the existing actors and doing a story set anywhere they want in the timeline? Improve the sets, effects, etc. and they would have had a pretty good movie. But no, they had to go and "re-imagine" it.

      Blech.

  7. hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will I have to upgrade my eyes/ears to see it?

    1. Re:hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you will need to upgrade your ears to version 2.0 to see it.

    2. Re:hmmm... by CMRichar · · Score: 3, Funny
      "Will I have to upgrade my eyes/ears to see it?"

      A:No! amazingly enough, our expert group of beta testers found that the best results for viewing the movie actually came with the stock audio/visual equipment packaged with every human. Some testers required certain "tweaks" to get the audio or visual to display correctly, but those users who require those tweaks should already have them installed.

      As a side note, it should be brought to your attention that certain users who have "overclocked" certain parts of their default hardware package may have trouble enjoying every aspect of the movie experience. Therefore, management must ask that everyone who has the "dual bandwidth" eye hack installed either disable the hack, or refrain from seeing this film. Remember, the MPAA is watching!

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    3. Re:hmmm... by FraggedSquid · · Score: 1

      No, but you will have to switch off your brain.

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  8. Real old, real fast by dfj225 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I dunno...if the whole movie just involves one actor running through a pitch black set with random zombies jumping out from in front and behind (after he just cleared the room behind him), I think the movie will get real old, real fast. Zing!

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    1. Re:Real old, real fast by DrXym · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't forget the flashlight and wading through tedious PDA voice mail for locker codes.

    2. Re:Real old, real fast by Ingolfke · · Score: 1

      I think that really depends on who that actress is.

    3. Re:Real old, real fast by petersam · · Score: 1

      Read the interview. It clearly won't be that. I do hope that it gets the R rating they've hinted at. The biggest problem with movies like Mortal Kombat and even X-Men is that they had to tone down the violence enough to make it PG-13, and then lost some of its marketability. Yes, you want a lot of action with the plot, but no, like dfj225 worries, it can't be stupid violence either. Predator == good violence. Commando == stupid violence.

    4. Re:Real old, real fast by lp_bugman · · Score: 1

      Seriously that PDA thing totaly killed the game for me

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    5. Re:Real old, real fast by ndogg · · Score: 1
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  9. I'm your man! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    willingness to change the mythology to work with the movie

    If they get stuck with this...give me a call.

    G. Lucas.

  10. don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to bring your flashlights. also, be prepared to patch with the flashlight duct tape mod.

  11. Doom the movie? by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

    At first it seemed like a bad idea all around, you know "another" video game movie, but at least this is one game that could have a good movie made from it.

    Of course the first 30 minutes will be all about how we got on Mars, bringing us up to speed and then the rest of the movie will be gibs, gibs, gibs...

    1. Re:Doom the movie? by StuckInSyrup · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wonder...are they going to land on mars using Carmacks Armadillo spacecraft?

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  12. When you buy a ticket for the movie. by Hinhule · · Score: 0

    You will also get a diaper.

  13. Top-level acting by media_Assassin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson will also appear as Sarge, the head space marine, but Callaham warns, "He is not going to be smiling a whole bunch. You won't see him raise his left eyebrow."

    This movie is bound to be good - The Rock only accepts scripts of the highest quality.

    1. Re:Top-level acting by rishistar · · Score: 1

      Roger Moores right eyebrow could out act The Rocks left one anyday!

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    2. Re:Top-level acting by cybrthng · · Score: 1

      I just can't bring myself to see a movie based upon a video game of my generation that has the Rock as the lead character.

      I would rather not know the person that saves the world then have it be an action flick where the movie is based upon a love story or popularity of its main character.

      Don't give it to the rock.

    3. Re:Top-level acting by NeoCode · · Score: 2, Informative

      It has been reported that Karl Urban (LoTR's Eomer) has signed on to play the lead as John Grimm.

    4. Re:Top-level acting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      The Rock is not the main character, it sounds like there's going to be a cast in this one, not just one marine and a ton of monsters.

      Also The Rock is a good actor, very charismatic. Dont sell him short just because he's a professional wrestler. I guess its the job of those who cant do to criticize, carry on.

    5. Re:Top-level acting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ive seen a couple of his movies.

      maybe the movie itself was just pure garbage. but he sure didnt help

    6. Re:Top-level acting by arose · · Score: 1

      Isn't Sarge from Quake?

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    7. Re:Top-level acting by beyobe · · Score: 1
      "You won't see him raise his left eyebrow."

      Wanna bet? Welcome to Hollywood, Mr. Callaham.

    8. Re:Top-level acting by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      What worries me is that he had to specify which eyebrow will not be raised.

  14. Thank You Hollywood! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've been waiting so long for an action movie where there is a single hope for mankind?! I wonder if there will be explosions and stuff...?!

  15. Do people have a dream in mind... by Kjuib · · Score: 0

    I think it is some high point in life to make a movie from a video game and try your hardest not to make is suck. I am not saying it cannot be done, but the odds are against them. According to my current calculations, they only have a 2.98% chance of it not sucking. Unless they try to up their chancs by throwing in a bunch of bigtime actors, then they chances drop to .0009%. History has proven itself.

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  16. Main character = John by arnoroefs2000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    One thing that id did insist upon is that the main character in the movie be named John. When asked, Callaham was unsure if that was a tribute to id's master programmer John Carmack but did admit there is another character named Carmack in the movie.

    Yes, quite the mystery where that came from...

    1. Re:Main character = John by ubera · · Score: 5, Funny

      We presume it's not Romero, unless the changes to the mythology involve robotic frogs.

      That said, this film has had approximately the same excessive pre-production lifespan as Daikatana

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      But what is the SIGnificance?
    2. Re:Main character = John by Maul · · Score: 1

      Well, did you expect they'd just call him "DoomGuy" or "Player?"

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    3. Re:Main character = John by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Funny

      That could be a funny scene!

      Sarge: Welcome aboard, Private... Player? Did you forget to change your name in the Options menu?!

      Player: Sorry, sir! I'll fix it right away, sir!
      [name changes to FragMaster]
      Fr4gY0M4m4: How do I get l33t colors, sir?

      Okay, nevermind.

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    4. Re:Main character = John by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      And the DVD could let you name him!

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    5. Re:Main character = John by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

      Marine: um, Sarge? Are you that blob on my right? I can't see you well cuz my system can't run at resolutions higher than 320x240!

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    6. Re:Main character = John by Jacer · · Score: 1

      How can it be Romero, I thought John Romero was a girl

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    7. Re:Main character = John by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Sarge: 320 by 240? Son, when I was your age, only the best systems would run at 320 by 200! Us poor enlisted men were stuck with 160 by 100, and it was good enough for us!

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  17. More ammo by Himring · · Score: 1

    Dave Callaham: "I finally got the bastards to agree to more friggin ammo...."

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  18. Why wouldnt someone.. by cOdEgUru · · Score: 4, Interesting

    with lot of talent and lot of time on their hands wouldnt use the Doom3 engine to (a)create new models (b)create new environments and (c) with the help of a good story writer, create a pre-rendered movie with an acceptable level of voiceover acting, great action and stuff that blows up sky high. Or does someone really need to spend around 200 mil to find what Aliens Versus Predator just found out?

    I would even pay if someone could make it engrossing enough to waste a few hours on it, and salacious enough to keep the young viewers glued to their screens.

    1. Re:Why wouldnt someone.. by Fortun+L'Escrot · · Score: 1

      i love the idea. a movie created using the game's engine. a few engine tweaks to squeeze out a few more visuals and some work on the facial expressions, and you have a freakin` movie. actually how much is the doom3 license? how much would a good script cost? how much do voice actors cost? how about graphic artists? what's the production cost of say the simpsons? dirty cheap if you ask me. maybe doom3 fans should unite. create some org where they can send donations with the sole purpose of creating said movie. and actually instead of a movie make it a mini-series ala Dune. distribute the movie using bittorrent 2 months after it is released in theatres. the movie could end up being a sort of mod for doom3. but i should stop now.

    2. Re:Why wouldnt someone.. by calethix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You mean something like Quake The Movie?

    3. Re:Why wouldnt someone.. by Friar_MJK · · Score: 1

      Great machinma idea! (spelling waaaay off) Who needs money when you could have the entire /. army of opensource to do all the work. Come to think of it, as long as it was fan based and you didn't charge for it, it could problably be called a mod and would be perfectly legal. Anybody interested? I'd love to get something like this going. E-mail me! jetstorm_riot at yahoo dot com.

  19. gibs by mfh · · Score: 1

    They had better pronounce gibs correctly. It's not Jibs -- it's Gibs! (With a hard G, not a J.)

    I hope they have some nods to the other great Id Games, where a zombie rides [gc]dolomite's rocket! Or, Ogre trips over his own pinaple.

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    1. Re:gibs by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      While I personally say "Gib" as in "Green", too many other places have I heard it pronounces "jib" for it not to come from some sort of reference...

      Then again, there was that period when it seemed everyone was calling gif's "jifs"

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    2. Re:gibs by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      "Gibs" comes from "giblets," referring to the little pieces left behind. It's pronounced with a soft 'g.'

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    3. Re:gibs by mfh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      UK folks use a soft 'g' for giblets, but Canadians and many Americans use a hard 'g' for giblets. Cooks likely use a soft 'g' because they are hoity-toity. :-)

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    4. Re:gibs by jeff_bond · · Score: 1

      I thought it was pronounced 'jibs', since I thought 'gibs' was short for 'giblets'.

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    5. Re:gibs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every American I've evewr heard say 'giblet' used the soft g, I think you need to recalibrate your ancedotameter.

    6. Re:gibs by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My mom is from Chicago, my maternal grandmother from St. Louis, my dad from the Northwest, my paternal grandfather from Boston, and my maternal grandmother and great-great-grandmother were from Tulsa. All of them pronounced it with a soft 'g' so I tend to think that this is the dominant pronunciation around the US at least. However, Dictionary.com has two entries with differing pronunciations -- the American Heritage Dictionary has it with the soft sound, and the Webster's has the hard sound.

      Lending some weight to the one side, though, I believe that John Carmack has said that it was pronounced with the soft 'g' around id. Since they presumably coined the word, they do have some say in how it's pronounced.

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    7. Re:gibs by Planx_Constant · · Score: 1

      No no no, 'gibs' are castrated male cats. So obviously, it's a hard g.

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  20. Wait, change? by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    They were really quite generous in changing the Doom mythology a bit.

    Wait, so you take the very thing that MAKES it doom, and you change it?

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    1. Re:Wait, change? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      Yeah really. What ARE they going for?

      Another planet? Aliens instead of demons?

      There isnt much 'mythology' to start with, so it gives one pause to wonder how badly they're going to screw up.

    2. Re:Wait, change? by DeckerEgo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Agreed. If they aren't spawned from Hell then what the hell is the point?

      "Hey, instead of having our 'Tale of Two Cities' movie taking place in France during the revolution, let's place it in a Brooklyn barber shop during a series of momma jokes. The audience will love it since they're a bunch of twits who like sparkley objects!"

    3. Re:Wait, change? by Friar_MJK · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I think that's exactly true. To me, Doom is what it is for a reason. Right now, I'm feeling low because I'm not looking forward to see how bad they screwed it up. id should have hired their own professional screenwriter and bossed him around a bit till he spit out what they wanted. Just like a politician and their speechwriter. You give them exactly what you want, and they polish it in a way that will make it look like it wasn't written by someone that failed high school english.

      So I say to hell (no pun intended) with the Hollywoodization of this project. I want my hellspawned demons pouring out of a science project gone bad (on Mars!). I want (almost) everybody dead, I want my marine so lonely that his animal instincts kick in and he's not afraid to grow a pair and throw himself out in a room blasting imps and hellknights with rocket launchers and machine guns.

      I want a movie where our lone marine must save himself before he can worry about anybody else on the planet, and THEN maybe save Earth in the sequal. I would say more, but it all comes down to wanting a movie based on the game, not somebody's idea of a another 'horror' movie that's the same plot, just different characters in another place.

    4. Re:Wait, change? by Elbereth · · Score: 1

      There's actually a lot of room for plot in a Doom movie.

      First of all, let's say that the demons really are coming in from Hell. Okay. So, is this the Christian Hell where damned souls go? If so, then, that really demands that we ask ourselves, "Is there a heaven?" And, following that, the ultimate religious question of all time, "Is there a God?"

      What would you think if you saw definitive proof of Hell? Wouldn't that cause you to rethink your philosophy on life? Wouldn't you become quite the ardent (even zealous) believer? And, which religion would you choose to belive? Catholicism? Judaism? Islam, even?

      There are a lot of questions here for an existentialist, theological movie to tackle. Why is this happening? Is it God's plan, assuming that God must exist, given the existence of Hell? What happens to your immortal soul when you are killed (and devoured) by a demon? What happens to your immortal soul when you are killed in Hell?

      Why not have an atheist fight the legions of Hell? It'd be rather ironic to have a man who disbelieves in that which he is fighting. What if the existence of Hell doesn't necessarily prove God's existence? That'd make for a very interesting debate within the movie. An atheist might take the view that Hell, as a physical place, does not have to validate religion. I can believe that France exists without believing that France has a king. Perhaps an atheist could acknowledge the existence of a soul without believing in an afterlife. Or something.

      Anyways, there are plenty of ways to do a horror movie like this, without it turning into a mindless action movie. One could even make the philosophical and theological parts of the movie less important than the explosions.

      Personally, I'd like to see a movie where people take a moment to reflect on how their worldview has changed, given concrete evidence of something fantastic. I'm quite the cynic, but seeing a portal to heaven, hell, the astral plane, Valhalla, or France might make me rethink a few things.

  21. Except from the Script by Nova+Express · · Score: 4, Funny
    Sarge Runs

    Sarge Shots The Monster

    Sarge Runs

    Sarge Shots The Monster

    Sarge Picks Up More Ammo

    Sarge Runs

    Monster Shoots Sarge Just Before He Shots The Monster

    Sarge: Ouch!

    Sarge Runs

    Sarge Opens A Secret Door

    Sarge Applies A Medkit

    Sarge Runs

    Sarge Shots The Monster

    Sarge Finds A Bigger Gun

    ____________________________

    Academy Award, here we come!

    (Note: I couldn't put directions in all caps like a real script due to Lameness Filter...)

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    1. Re:Except from the Script by FlopEJoe · · Score: 2, Funny
      Unless it's Doom III. Then it would be:

      Sarge walks into a room

      Lights go out and monsters attack

      Sarge kills monsters

      Repeat

    2. Re:Except from the Script by aurb · · Score: 1
      > Sarge Runs
      >
      > Sarge Shots The Monster
      >
      > [...]

      Xaero rails Sarge

      Xaero gets the flag

      Red team scores
    3. Re:Except from the Script by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

      Except that in Doom3, the protagonist is a simple marine while the Sarge is kinda your boss and *spoiler* later becomes evil and you need to kill him.

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    4. Re:Except from the Script by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

      Why in the world do you have your e-mail address with those stupid h's in it to prevent e-mail harvesters, and then IMMEDIATELY provide a URL to your home page that has your e-mail address in clear text???

      ~D

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    5. Re:Except from the Script by arcanumas · · Score: 1
      Sarge jumps.

      .. oh wait, that can't happen until "Doom3 The movie"

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    6. Re:Except from the Script by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      ^^^ someone obviously didn't PLAY Doom3.
      -- insert between every line:
      "Sarge puts away weapon.
      Sarge takes out flashlight.
      Sarge puts away flashlight.
      Sarge takes out weapon again."

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  22. and the Vertigo by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1

    I can just see it now, all the folks like me who get vertigo walking through virtual mazes puking in their seats.

  23. Resident Evil (aka BioHazard) by News+for+nerds · · Score: 1

    owns Doom.

  24. Better than by harvey_peterson · · Score: 1, Funny

    With any luck the Doom movie will be better than the MyDoom movie. Boy did that suck.

    1. Re:Better than by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      I thought it sucked, but it seems to be pretty popular around my office.

  25. Game vs Movie by vinukr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can they make the movie as real as the game is, especially doom 3?? I doubt it.

    1. Re:Game vs Movie by Maul · · Score: 1

      You're right. I don't think the theater's projector could even pull 10 FPS.

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    2. Re:Game vs Movie by neko9 · · Score: 1

      ehem... theater's projector pulls 24fps easly

    3. Re:Game vs Movie by Maul · · Score: 1

      Yeah, maybe on older movies it could do 24 FPS, but this is a new DOOM Movie. The projector is going to need some upgrades to keep up. ... Okay, so maybe I'm taking these Doom 3 system requirement jokes to far ...

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  26. Will the movie be ... doomed? by shadowdata · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Honestly , i am not a fan of games2movie type of movies ... i prefer games to remain games ... i won't be watching this ... anyone else feel this way ?

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    1. Re:Will the movie be ... doomed? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      There's been a lot of talk about how the video game industry is eclipsing the film industry, especially when you consider the market segment that video games are hitting. Even my wife's grandmother played The Sims.

      Personally, I think that this is an unfortunate move. Very few video games have the storytelling, plot, character development, etc. that quality films do. Doom 3, which I recently completed, started off with the potential to open up into the storytelling. By the end, I was simply blasting everything away. It got kind of boring.

      I too prefer that games stay games - when I'm involved, controlling the character, and reacting in my own way, it's much more engaging. I hate when movie characters do stupid things (I also hate Dude, Where's My Car?). Moving the other way - from movies to games - can be fun, though. It's like being handed the movie role and getting a chance to do something different. If the game plot isn't a direct copy of the movie plot, it's awesome. See Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast.

      They would have to abandon the "shoot everything until we win" strategy and go for more of a plot. Don't leave a huge sequel door open. Don't waste my time overloading with artificial catch-phrases. Don't abandon the "art" side of filmmaking, even if it's not an "art" film.

      This is his first movie script, he's 26, and he doesn't appear to have much film experience. I don't have a lot of confidence, but good luck to him.

    2. Re:Will the movie be ... doomed? by Algan · · Score: 1
      i won't be watching this ... anyone else feel this way ?


      This being Slashdot... no, not really.

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  27. One Question by hammurderer · · Score: 1

    Will the movie be associated in anyway with Jon Woo

    1. Re:One Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If so, we will truly see Mars as it was meant to be seen- with "gangsta-style" shooting of pistols and submachine guns, and doves flying in slow motion.

    2. Re:One Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      One far more important question:
      Will the cacodaemon be pink?

  28. pfft.. by waspleg · · Score: 1

    MORTAL KOMBAT!!! (FIGHT!)

    1. Re:pfft.. by operagost · · Score: 0

      If Liu Kang had turned into a dragon and bit someone in half, it would have been a great movie.

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    2. Re:pfft.. by waspleg · · Score: 1

      its all about the soundtrack ;)

  29. haven't i seen this already? by putch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ghosts of Mars

    mars. demons. guns. space marines. little or no plot.

    seemed like doom to me.

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    1. Re:haven't i seen this already? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      RTFI(nterview), he said he didn't want it to be just a bloody action-fest.

      "Callaham understands that, "There are going to be Doom fans that are going to want a movie that is nothing but action.", but he felt that it was important to put in real people that you can relate to, similar to what Aliens and the first Predator movie had with their Colonial Marines and Special Forces teams respectively. As far as the poor showing video game movies have had over the years and if that intimidated him, he said. "I never thought of it as a video game movie. I wanted to write first a great movie, then a great science fiction movie and then a video game movie." However, Callaham did say that gamers who know the Doom games will still enjoy it"

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    2. Re:haven't i seen this already? by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other words, he's just making whatever movie he wants and slapping the Doom name on it? That is probably for the best actually, as trying to make a movie based on a game with 2 paragraphs worth of plot is not a good idea. Still, I think it will be a good idea to set your expectation bar to "low" for this movie.

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    3. Re:haven't i seen this already? by StuckInSyrup · · Score: 1

      I think Mars is a doomed place to make a movie. Can anyone remember a good movie that played on mars? Well, maybe Total Recall. But the rest?
      Mission to mars? Absolute horrorrr to anyone, who knows what DNA means.
      Red planet? Weak. Really weak.
      Ghosts of mars? The worst Carpenters movie ever.
      Species II? Well, they tried...but failed.
      Is there anything else?
      If the Doom movie will be good, it will be a double miracle. A good game movie a and a good Mars movie. I would really like to see something like that.

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    4. Re:haven't i seen this already? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      I think that's the main reason he has been talking with the big wigs at iD about the story for so long.

      It's on an undisclosed planet, there's a sister, family backstory.. I smell a plot.

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    5. Re:haven't i seen this already? by schemanista · · Score: 1

      trying to make a movie based on a game with 2 paragraphs worth of plot is not a good idea.

      Two paragraphs of plot is a friggin trilogy!

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    6. Re:haven't i seen this already? by cjpez · · Score: 2, Funny
      a game with 2 paragraphs worth of plot
      Two? What's in the second one?
    7. Re:haven't i seen this already? by putch · · Score: 1

      you probably never got to the second paragraph. the shareware version only had the first paragraph.

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    8. Re:haven't i seen this already? by modecx · · Score: 1

      Hey, they think the original Doom and Doom3 were on MARS. The planet. Says so in the interview.

      It was Phobos you retards!

      (if they can't even get that right, we know that the movie is going to be a pile of shit)

      I'm thinking it's going to be a cross between ALL of the bad movie games thusfar.

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  30. Re:I'm sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People are still playing text based muds for a reason.

    The reason would be that they are a bunch of sad nerds.

  31. Re:Finally by cuzality · · Score: 1

    ...hit the theaters in August of 2005.

    I'm sure they'll have no trouble at all meeting that deadline, considering their track record...

    OK, OK -- Memorial Day of '09 maybe?

  32. Going for greatness! by hanssprudel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's see here. What have got:

    a) Movie based around a video game whose entire plot was "bad things came from hell, kill them."

    b) First time scriptwriter.

    c) B-Movie director whose best credits are Romeo Must Die and Exit Wounds, and involvement in such classic stinkers as Species and Speed, changed in to direct at last minute.

    d) Will star The Rock and a washed out Bond girl in leading parts.

    e) Tossed around between studios.

    I think we are looking a three or four Academy awards, at least!

    1. Re:Going for greatness! by Have+Blue · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Speed was actually pretty cool. Everything else I agree with.

  33. Hard to screw up the plot then, huh? by StringBlade · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since Doom's plot (even Doom 3's plot) is very weak and really has no substance, the movie has a potential to make up whatever story they want. Ideally, they'll leave the setting on Mars/in hell and throw in some recognizable artifacts (such as the chaingun or plasma cannon -- maybe the BFG) and put the main character - a marine - in some dirty green uniform; slap UAC on a few walls and signs and you've got yourself a Doom movie! If you REALLY want to stick to the game - add pinky demons, imps, and maybe a death knight or arch vile.

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    1. Re:Hard to screw up the plot then, huh? by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      RTFA, no mars. I don't think even Id gives a crap if it still has the "oldschool" feel - after all, they took the fastest, slipperiest, most energetic FPS and turned it into a crawling survival-horror/flashlight simulator with Doom 3. Not that doom 3 was bad - quite the opposite, it just didn't maintain the feel of the old DOom games.

    2. Re:Hard to screw up the plot then, huh? by StringBlade · · Score: 1

      I wasn't saying the movie was going to be a success. I was just outlining that Doom isn't an overly complex game/story and it wouldn't take much for a movie to be "true" to the game.

      I guess this movie is only similar in name....like I, Robot.

      I never claimed to have RTFA and I've got too much work to do at work to be RTFAing all day. :-) If I make a claim about the article or something stipulated contrary in the article (such as saying the movie IS based on Mars) then you can kiss me with an RTFA.

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  34. Wolfenstein 3D by haggar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would really love to see a movie based on that game. I like the setup, it just tickles my imagination and arises my curiosity. On the other hand, it would be really easy to spoil the atmosphere of the game, if the filmmakers get it wrong. Which they almost always do. So, beware of the Doom movie, it might be a let-down for many Doom fans.

    OTOH, I really like "Resident Evil" the movie, better than the game.

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    1. Re:Wolfenstein 3D by jandrese · · Score: 2, Funny

      How are they going to ruin the atmosphere of Wolf3D? By having the hero _not_ run down hallways banging on every blue brick wall in the hopes of opening up a secret passage?

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    2. Re:Wolfenstein 3D by ripsnorta · · Score: 1

      OTOH, I really like "Resident Evil" the movie, better than the game.

      That's because the movie didn't have the crappy camera angles from the game.

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    3. Re:Wolfenstein 3D by haggar · · Score: 1

      Hollywood: The place good stories go to die.
      Not always: I think "Andromeda Strain" is the exception to the rule.
      "Blade Runner" is another example. Sure, it's different than the novel, but not worse.

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    4. Re:Wolfenstein 3D by ripsnorta · · Score: 1

      It's true that there are exceptions to the rule. But lately it's been pretty much the case that Hollywood has taken some decent stories and completely butchered them.

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    5. Re:Wolfenstein 3D by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

      it also took the characters less than 6 minutes to open a door and walk into an ajoining room, i think that was an improvement

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    6. Re:Wolfenstein 3D by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

      I think they might make a good movie based on games like the "Jedi Knight" series. It seems to have a pretty extensive world and characters, maybe enough to make a trilogy or two!

      Really tho, i'd love seeing a movie based on System Shock or Thief, being dark and generally creepy.

      Speaking about game based movies, anyone got news about the upcoming FarCry movie?

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    7. Re:Wolfenstein 3D by haggar · · Score: 1

      One of the things I really like about W3D is that is NOT dark but rather quite clear and illuminated, and yet, the game designers managed to create a genuinely cold and terrifying world.

      I am not sure an "extensive world and characters" is really necessary precondition for a good movie. That can be easily added, but it's important that there is a "fun idea" or "attactive idea", something that makes the movie click.

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  35. Telefragged! by wuice · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only thing I want to see a doom movie for is to watch a real actor rocket jump to an otherwise-inaccessible ledge.

    Oh yes, and I want to see someone telefragged on screen.

    1. Re:Telefragged! by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

      This Doom you we're talking about, not quake. Doom doesn't have rocket jumping and hardly any telefragging. But we will get to see some shotgun action, followed by chaingun, rocket launcher, the classic chainsaw, the plasma gun and the obligatory BFG. And don't forget the psycho scene in case they add the berserk power-up.
      Since it'll be based somewhat on D3 you will probably see a SoulCube.
      Telefragging probably not, but chopped up and eaten by monsters is very likely.

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    2. Re:Telefragged! by mink · · Score: 1

      IT would be cool, but you have to wait for the Quake or UT film for telefragging as I remember it dont exist in doom.

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    3. Re:Telefragged! by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Huh? But that assumes the movie will let the character aim at the ground.

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    4. Re:Telefragged! by wuice · · Score: 1

      Rocket jumping I'll give you, but telefrags were one of my favorite parts of the original DOOM games.

  36. Doom the movie is already out... by sir_ze0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Its called Aliens.

    If they want this movie to not suck, they better consult with James Cameron.

    1. Re:Doom the movie is already out... by r_barchetta · · Score: 1


      Wait. You want them to consult the creative "genius" behind Titanic on the Doom movie?!

      Egads, man. Tell me you don't work in the movie business.

      -r

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    2. Re:Doom the movie is already out... by alphaseven · · Score: 1

      The similarities aren't a coincidence, Doom was originally going to be a game based on the Aliens license, but then id decided to use hellspawn instead of aliens so they could keep creative control.

    3. Re:Doom the movie is already out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then the Alien Trilogy game (PSX) was Doom with aliens, instead of hell minions.

      So, if the trend continues, the Doom movie will be like Alien, just with different baddies.

  37. What about Bungie's Marathon? by jjh37997 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hell..... if there are going to be making movies based on old shoot-em ups why not pick one that acutally has an interesting story and plot?

    1. Re:What about Bungie's Marathon? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      To see what's he's talking about, here's a link: Marathon's Story

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    2. Re:What about Bungie's Marathon? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, that was the forum, the story stuff is here.

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    3. Re:What about Bungie's Marathon? by CaptMonkeyDLuffy · · Score: 1

      I'm a huge fan of Marathon, but it really wouldn't work well as a movie. The big strength of Marathon's plot was the 'plot beneath the plot.' The hidden messages that you had to look up obscure bits of history and other trivia to interpret. You could translate the 'surface plot' to the movie format with only minimal loss, but there's no way you could get all the background story and hidden subplots in.

      You might be able to pull it off in a mini-series, or a few seasons of hour long TV episodes type format. Even then, I think the strengths of Marathon's plot are innately tied to its text based storytelling system. For a SF shooter with plot, Half Life or System Shock would probably work better as movies, I have to admit, even though I enjoy the Marathon style plot more, it just wouldn't translate.

    4. Re:What about Bungie's Marathon? by KZigurs · · Score: 0

      like nethack? In ascii? ;D

  38. obligatory slam... by TachyonAT · · Score: 5, Funny

    No see the real trick will be getting it out before the Duke Nukem: Forever movie...

  39. yippie ki yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to start a petition to get Bruce Willis to star in this movie. He's the only would that could pull if off imho.

  40. Doomed movie... by oneiron · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Before they switched directors, this movie had a chance to be an amazing flick. The guy who was previously directing it has worked on a few Nine Inch Nails videos, and you can bet he was planning to stay as true to the original mythology with as little overdramatized love-interest-style garbage as possible. Now, it seems, it will be just another movie based on a game that hollywood butchers for the sake of the almighty dollar. The original director's unwillingness to compromise with money grubbing producers is probably a big part of why he's not on the project, anymore.

    Within days after the new director was announced; the script had already been butchered with the addition of an endangered love interest and the elimination of the pre-human civilization plotline.

    The evil quotient of hollywood producers is right up there with the MPAA and RIAA.

  41. The changes to the script... (Oblig. South Park) by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 0

    "And maybe we could cast Tom Hanks as Mr. Hanky's hospitalized friend, Kyle."

    "Yes, but this christmas poo thing just doesn't work, Mr. Hanky needs to be a chimpanzee..."

    "A talking chimpanzee!"

    "Yes, by god, that's it! Mr. Hanky will be a talking chimpanzee!"

    Working title: Gay Cowboys Eating Pudding.

  42. Well, I hope that 'John' is a woman. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Big boobs optional. (See Mila in RE. Rrrowr!)

    I'm still pissed about not being able to choose a female character in Doom 3. Come ON, it is 2004, drop a bit more effort into the goddamn games. We gals like playing a character that we can relate to and there are a lot of guys who like playing as the female character just so they can watch themselves bounce around. :p

    Seriously, there is nothing like being wrapped up in a game then seeing a reflection of yourself. A big, burly, manly reflection of yourself. Suddenly you go from 'hell on Mars' to 'chair in a dark room looking at some dude on the screen', which REALLY sucks. All of that effort goes into creating a games atmosphere, but they just don't seem to get this one thing...

    Vapors above steam? Yes, that is a cool effect. Having to play as a dude? Not cool. If you want to see more chicks spending their money on something other than the Sims franchise start catering to them.

    [/rant]

    Now if you'll excuse me I hear Sonya Blade calling me... ;)

  43. Believe it or not... by R.Caley · · Score: 1
    Believe it or not, the Doom movie is Callahams first produced movie script ...

    Hard to believe, lets listen in to that meeting:

    Hm, in return for some publicity, we appear to be committed to making a complete turkey of a movie which will blight the career of all those associated with it. Even our scriptwriters have too much spine to agree to work on this.

    Hey! Why don't we give the job to that new kid -- he's too wet behind the ears to know to refuse!

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  44. Cinematography suggestions by babbage · · Score: 3, Funny

    For it to really be a Doom movie, it has to be done first person shooter style.

    This means, of course, that the camera has to be permanently mounted behind a gun barrel and, aside from mirrors and other reflective objects, you never get to see the protagonist's face -- because he is, after all, the true everyman, representative of everyone and specifically looking like no one. For truly, who among us has not had to slay a million zillion zombies?

    A true first person shooter version of Doom / Quake etc would be cool, in a "Blaim Doom Project" kind of way ...

    1. Re:Cinematography suggestions by rev_sanchez · · Score: 1

      I'd like a Quake movie that starts out with a guy standing in front of three hall ways.
      left hallway: PG-13
      middle hallway: R
      right hallway: NC-17 (shoot the movie this way and take stuff out for the other ratings)

      You are steup for sequels with the three different words (? a quake trilogy ?). So that's 9 DVD's for the box set and what's this? A special edition with all the secret rooms!!!
      They picked the wrong ID game.

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  45. Gore? by alexandre · · Score: 1

    I hope they're going to make it like DooM was...
    And i mean:

    - people with big pipes across the chess shaking to death.
    - people straped on the wall bleeding to death..
    - people dying all around the place and satanic symbols!

    Yeah! that's the spirit! ;-)

  46. Just don't be like Lucas! by Maul · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember that when facing down the Cyberdemon, the space marine shoots first!

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    1. Re:Just don't be like Lucas! by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Facing down the Cyberdemon? The space marine comes up to his ankle ;p He BETTER shoot first.

  47. About the movie by SuperCal · · Score: 1

    I heard the plot was very character driven

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  48. Storyline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We all know how _good_ the Doom _storylines_ were. Man, this movie is only sounding better and better!

  49. DooM book by ZeroVerteX · · Score: 1

    I read the books and thought that they were great. It should make for a decent movie.

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  50. Question for the director by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will the camera be able to rotate up and down like in doom 3 or just left-right like in doom 1 ?

  51. Feh... by StoatBringer · · Score: 0

    I'm waiting for the Duke Nukem Forever movie.

    Anytime soon, apparently.

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  52. Friend on mine is working on this... by Chembryl · · Score: 2, Interesting
    .. he says much of the inspirstion for the graphics is coming from rotten.com



    Unfortunately, his opinion of the movie so far is that it is going to be 'crap'.

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    1. Re:Friend on mine is working on this... by Saeger · · Score: 1
      But Rotten.com hasn't been the king of gross for a few years now. They've slowed down their updates and switched to using more words than pics.

      The new king of the morbidly curious is Ogrish.com

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  53. A cool possible director by goonda · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure how they'll overlay a *story* on the run-n-gun freneticism of an FPS like Doom, but Mexican director Guillermo del Toro from Hellboy, Blade II, and Mimic might have the right gut feel for the horror aspect of the game. He's really into bloodsucking creatures with giant mandibles that don't let go.

  54. Those Doom Novels by JMPrice · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Did anyone else read the four Doom novels by Dafydd ab Hugh and Brad Linaweaver?

    The books got increasingly metaphysical as they reached the fourth book, but the first book was awesome and I always saw it as movie-ready. It dealth with the solipsism and paranoia of being on a space-station by oneself (and, ok, a couple of thousand Satanic spawn).

    1. Re:Those Doom Novels by lafiel · · Score: 1

      I am so ashamed that not only have I read the novels, but own them as well.

      The first two were actually quite good, and I found the entire Earth sequence far better than anything Doom 2 was actually made of. Something about the Mormons being prepared for this with massive arsenels makes me giggle with glee.

      Of course, then they went back to space and into the jaws of hell... which is where the plot also went. The last novel, Endgame, was a total mockery of everything expected. Kudos to the authors with the guts to follow Hitchcock's maxim: Make the Audience suffer.

      Still, nothing like metaphysical bullshit to screw up a good series. Cheers Hugh and Linaweaver, you made took my money and my dignity!

  55. Event Horizion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Doom movie should take some advice from the type of suspense that was set on the movie Event Horizon. The horror scenes there actually scared me for a good many times. Doom should derive from other movies, including Alien, Event Horizon, and Ghosts of Mars. These mixed together would produce a well made movie. I don't want to see Doom go to waste.

  56. The irony... by Apostata · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...is that the people doing CGI for the movie probably couldn't run the game on their systems.

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  57. Re:gmail invites by gothzilla · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    NOT invites, just nasty pics.
    DO NOT CLICK

  58. Id movies by Kane+Skalter · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, when do we get to see the Commander Keen movie? I nominate Rush Limbaugh for the part of Dopefish.

  59. You forgot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the camera has to be permanently mounted behind a gun barrel and, aside from mirrors and other reflective objects, you never get to see the protagonist's face

    You forgot that there has to be some back-story that explains why the protagonist's neck vertebrae are fused (he can't look behind him, he has to turn his entire body.)

  60. Release Date by HedonismBot · · Score: 1

    Coming to cinemas everywhere...When it's done!

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  61. WarCraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I alone in thinking that of all the classic mid-90s games, WarCraft was best suited for an actual movie? It would be expensive as hell with all the CGI orcs, but at the very least there are two opposing factions with (roughly developed) personalities.

  62. Flexibility with script? by Dracolytch · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean id was willing to be flexible with the DOOM storyline? The storyline that went something like...

    It's demons.

    It's aliens.

    No... wait... It's demonic aliens.

    No, they're really demons, from hell.

    You go to hell and kill all of the demons.

    Research on Mars summons demons who try to steal ships to invade Earth.

    I don't know how they could EVER justify deviation.

    ~D

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  63. Quotation Marks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My god, have quotation marks gone the way of the apostrophe? Is it just my browser not displaying them or does the author really not use quotation marks when quoting the interviewee?
    I don't understand, are people really this dumb? How could you post something like this on a reasonably high profile site like HomeLanFed without at least running it by someone with a basic grasp of grammar?

  64. Likely R rating for Doom? by frission · · Score: 1

    "...And that means a likely R rating for Doom." I'm not quite sure why this he's even questioning this. I hope there isn't some terrible editing going on and that it'll just turn out to be AVP 2005 with the whole PG13 rating.

  65. With any luck... by cjpez · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... it'll be every bit as good as the comic book.

  66. Lack of plot? by phorm · · Score: 1

    A lot of people on here are complaining about the lack of plot, but perhaps they're thinking of the the original doom games and not doom3

    a) Far-flung space colony on mars
    b) Experimental weapons researched by a huge conglomerate
    c) Discovery of an alien race with ties to earth
    d) Alien race apparently killed off by other alien race
    e) Alien race sacrified many of its citizens to create a device used to stave off the baddies
    f) Possibility that the aliens escape to Earth, perhaps as our ancestors
    g) Nutso scientist dude
    h) Freaky aliens discovered on mars, various dissections and investigations as to why they can manifest fireaballs, etc
    i) Gateway to research site reveals more ugly aliens
    j) Gateway to one area finds a very hellish world with more uglies and a distorted reality - most visitors come back insane (or not at all)
    k) Nutso scientist trying to open said gateway
    l) Nutso scientist trying to bring ugly zombies/aliens to earth

    Movies have been built on less. I think if they ramped up the "investigation of alien species" and the parent race plot, you might get a cross between something from Tomb Raider, Alien, and Army of Darkness. OK, so except for Alien none of these were spectacular at the time, but a mixed plot could come out with something good if done well.

  67. Casting by MrDoh! · · Score: 1

    Bruce Campbell
    or
    Henry Rollins

    That is all...

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    1. Re:Casting by Hassman · · Score: 1

      Bruce Campbell!!!!! w00t!

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  68. Weaponry by koan · · Score: 1

    What type of weapon can I expect for the price of a movie ticket?

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  69. Hope...! by mlauzon · · Score: 1

    I really hope this will be a good movie, you remember how bad some of the early video game to movie adaptations have been...heck even with the ones over the last few years haven't been all that good because like usual Hollywood has taken major liberties with the properties!

  70. fps? by majid_aldo · · Score: 1

    will it be recorded at 60fps?

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  71. the real question is... by Savatte · · Score: 1

    which rapper will have a co-starring role? Given the director's filmography, I think it's safe to assume there will be one. I'm putting my vote on Ja Rule, but I've been hearing good buzz about Nelly. Not for his rapping or acting, though.

  72. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't even take place on Mars! It's an "unnamed alien world." Blech.

    When I got to the part where he gets "reunited with his sister" and they have to "stick together" to fight the "alien monsters" appearing on the base, that's when I began to gag.

    Hello? What's wrong with the storyline of a UAC base on Mars opening a portal to hell? It's one of the classic premises in gaming and works perfectly as a horror movie.

    Give me a fucking break! I'm seriously disappointed that not only did they hand this off to some first-time writer, but the story is already too dumb for me to accept it as being a Doom movie.

    The worst part of being a fan of Doom is that you know that given the budget these turds are going to have when making this film, you could make a better one that would be a horror film classic revered for decades. It's the same frustration Matrix fans felt when seeing the sequels--"What the fuck? *I* could have done better than this!"

    If I was given the task of writing a Doom script and filming it, I guarantee it would be a classic of sci-fi horror. I know a lot of you out there would do just as well, because we know what's great about Doom. This is yet another shitty videogame movie by all accounts.

    1. Re:RTFA by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      It's the same frustration Matrix fans felt when seeing the sequels--"What the fuck? *I* could have done better than this!"

      Hey, I'm as big a Matrix fan as the next person but I don't agree with that statement. Sure, the end of the last one pretty much sucked but the movies were good IMHO.

      The architect, that was awsome... the second one is the best if you ask me. But you didn't so I'll be going now.

    2. Re:RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You talk like you actually know the story or what the movie is going to be like.

  73. wouldnt a halflife movie make more sense? by majid_aldo · · Score: 1

    ..given that the doom name has been ruined by the quality of doom3?

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  74. hmmm by minus_273 · · Score: 1

    how would this be different from any generic action flick? i mean doom is just a generic shoot em up which is the equivalent of a generic action flick

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  75. I can't Wait!! by mjanosko · · Score: 1

    An hour and a half of some guys hands. This ought to be fantastic!

  76. Worse, NO STORY by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    Doom doesn't have a story. I don't care what was in the readme, you just had several levels with increasing difficulty.

    What it does have is a universe with certain symbols and actions that people who played doom will expect in the movie.

    Except that that was exactly what was wrong with super mario brothers. There they had to bolt a story on a game universe that really didn't have a story yet keep the "regonizable" bits. Like the jumping boots, the walking bomb and other crap.

    Doom is pretty close to the world of alien and we all know what a hit and miss that his been with people trying to tell their story and yet keep it fitting in the alien universe.

    I hope that if this movie ever happens it will only take the art direction from the game. Any reference to game elements like searching for colored keycards, health packs, powerups will ruin it totally.

    Frankly I think it is going to be as bad as all the other "he this is a popular game lets make it into a movie despite the fact that their is no story at all present and a lot of silly stuff people are going to expect wich aren't any fun and will totally confuse any member of the audience who doesn't know the game". History seems to agree with me.

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  77. It's too late, they already messed it up by Savatte · · Score: 1

    They gave the main character a name, thus depriving him of his everyman status. True, it's a generic movie name, and he may not have a last name, but he's no longer anonymous.

    for a look at how to really adapt videogame culture into a movie, check out Olivier Assayas' demonlover. It mimicks the lifestyle/experience of playing a video game and surfing the net, with things bouncing off each other and not necessarily making sense in the context of the whole movie.

  78. Uhm. Aliens Versus Predator was a success! by celerityfm · · Score: 3, Informative

    You will be just as surpised as I when you read this:

    Alien vs Predator Domestic Total as of Oct. 5, 2004: $79,690,462, Worldwide total $101,614,954

    They've already gone into profit territory on this and in fact it's being called a success: The studio also saw success this year with Regency's "Man on Fire" and "Alien vs. Predator."

    So stop all the hate and learn the facts.

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    1. Re:Uhm. Aliens Versus Predator was a success! by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      So stop all the hate and learn the facts.

      Box-office success is the be and end all of movie quality. That would be: opinions on the movie in thirty years.

    2. Re:Uhm. Aliens Versus Predator was a success! by MilenCent · · Score: 1

      Argh, amend that: Box-office success is NOT the be and end all of movie quality. D'oh.

    3. Re:Uhm. Aliens Versus Predator was a success! by celerityfm · · Score: 1

      No you are absolutely right but do you think FOX knows about this strange idea?

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  79. Before Zork? by Aidtopia · · Score: 1

    A Doom movie already? When's the Zork movie they've been talking about since the 980s coming out?

  80. The perfect DOOM script wich can really work by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It is so simple it will never occur to anyone in hollywood. A group of marins is stationed on mars at research facility to keep the peace. It is an important post and the duty is peacefull but requires lots of discipline to exist as a civilian peacekeeper so in contrast to all hollywood movies the marines are well trained and disciplined and selected for their stable family backgrounds and general good social skills. They can be a mixture of all races and religion but they are all okay with each other.

    They are commanded by a hardbitten veteran sergeant for who this is a reward, a few easy years at a top post before his retirement. He does not a chip on his shoulder about anything. New is the officer but he is smart, knows his stuff, knows to use his NCO's and that sometimes orders are there to be disobeyed. None of his family had been killed by anyone and he is single.

    In the first ten minutes we learn a little about how nice and stable they all are and see a bit of the base. Perhaps get a few hints about some Big Fucking Gun being developed and meet the system administrator, a nice tomboy girl with no hangups and also single. She and the officer take an instant "dis"like to each other and trade funny one liners.

    Remember this takes about ten minutes. During the opening credits. Then the movie starts and hell breaks loose as the research goes wrong.

    From then on we don't got any lines longer then two sentences. The "story" is basically the sergeant and the officer trying to get their team together (spread out across the base during the incident) with the help of the system admin (que banter and very light love interest) and then beat back the demons with the help of the tech gadgets hinted at during the intro with of course the final mission to collect the BFG and kill the boss demon.

    After the first suprise no-one gets killed needlessly, everyone does their job with perhaps just a few civilians being funnily slaughtered because they do the stupid thing. None of the marines panick or betray the team or any of the hollywood crap. The team doesn't get smaller and smaller but gets bigger as the group gathers members.

    In short? Band of Brothers Meets Alien. That is the Real men acting like real men in a future world with really nasty monsters and big explosions.

    Avoid all the "incompetent officer" "hardbitten marine with broken home" "backstabbing civilian" "scream queen love interest" "slowly people getting killed off in incredibly stupid ways" and you won't need a "great story", the audience will be too relieved with your originality to care.

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    1. Re:The perfect DOOM script wich can really work by JFitzsimmons · · Score: 1

      That would actaully be an interesting movie. It would be "how are they going to own those suckers this time?" instead of "who is going to fuck up next?". Nice job :)

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    2. Re:The perfect DOOM script wich can really work by syberanarchy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know what? That's a damn fine script idea. You ought to write the screenplay and try and sell it on spec. Just put a different name on it.

      I can, however, tell you why Doom and all other licensed properties never get the perfect treatment they deserve.

      1. Ego

      The film industry has always, and will always, feel that they are artistically superior as a medium to video games. Despite the fact that Doom 3 probably made more in one day than their Chronicles of Riddick made in its entire run, they still view "their" ideas as being better than Carmack's.

      When Max Payne - a game with enough built in material for 2 films - hits the screen, you can be assured there will be only a passing resemblance to the game. Ms. Valkyr will probably end up being played by Jessica Simpson, and Payne will most likely be played by Vin Diesel. Also, in an attempt to get a PG-13 rating, Valkyr will become Valka-Cola.

      2. The Fans Can Do Better, But They Don't Know The Right People

      I'm sure the industry elitists will flame me for this, but the simple fact is that there are probably 20 different scripts for any given conversion that are better than what was actually put on the screen. A dedicated group of fans could have done better with AvP and Street Fighter. They took a classic franchise for geeks and turned it into a teen flick. I'm sure it will be the same with Doom. Remember the Lost in Space update (which I liked)? I can see the Doom movie being something like that, but with zombies instead of spiders.

      3. The Game's Audience Is Generally Smarter Than The Movie's Audience

      Continuing the "It's not what you know..." situation, Resident Evil will always suck in my mind because they threw away a godsend based on petty Hollywood politics.

      You know who was originally signed to write and direct the film? George Romero, the man who all but invented the modern zombie film. Capcom then fired him because his script "wasn't good enough," then turned around and hired the man behind Mortal Kombat.

      What Capcom really means is that Romero's script stuck too close to the game, and that would have alienated people who couldn't follow an intelligent plot - otherwise known as 75 percent of the moviegoing public. What they needed was a shallow, plotless movie with lots of EXPLOSIONS and EYE CANDY and HOT CHICKS, not a well-written film that stuck to the source material.

    3. Re:The perfect DOOM script wich can really work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't Max Payne a rip off of Payback? A very good movie, Mel Gibson, who does a very good job, being the inspiration for Max Payne, allthough the story line is a bit different. SOme of the images in the game match the ones in the movie, the large building is almost identical.

  81. yay.... by dep01 · · Score: 0

    Ooohhhh boy...! the Rock as head sarge? you KNOW this is going to be good.

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  82. predict the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    worst. movie. EVER.

  83. Monster closets by 3Suns · · Score: 1

    Wow, maybe in the movie we'll finally learn the secret about who set up all those "monster closets" with touchplate sensors scattered liberally about the mars base. That's the one loose end in the intricate web-like Doom plot that hasn't been tied...

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  84. What happened to the DOOM books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one who read them? There were 4 books written sometime after Doom 2. The books did a pretty decent job of writing up a story based on the game using 2 characters (Fly and Arlene) who were not related.

    I wonder why these books were even allowed to be written if they weren't going to be considered "canon" in the series. I thought the books could be made into a movie although it might not work well with only 2 main characters for most of the movie.

  85. oh no ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    first thing that poped into my mind is really the game doom3. i mean the story of the game is like a hollywood movie already! i really hope they're going to keep/add alot of background story about a privat reasearch corporation doing some dodgey "research", e.g. teleportation (because we need bigger guns!). I really hope they keep that part. of course it will lean abit towards resident evil, but outerspace, exotic physics, big weapons and esoteric/satanism should lend very well towards a moral in the way of "scientics have a big responsibility and shouldn't do everything doable" or so ... of course the american "nevermind what comes, we can kick your ass anyway" should fit nicely!!! :) i hope this screen writer guy goes to visit some big physics laboratory like brookhaven or fermi labs where they have some huge equipment >:P yeah and maybe boeing too, to get the "feel" for size and stuff ...

  86. mythology? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    ... make sure the mythology is correct?

    C'mon. This is DOOM we're talking about here, not Tolkien's LotR. The mythology amounts to, "Space station on Mars is invaded by demons through a portal to hell; space marine saves the day."

    So, what are they going to do? Have him bleeding to death, half an arm severed off, and then he finds a medical box with a magic saringe with which he re-grows an arm and heals all his wounds?

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  87. Well, it is ID Software... by Ninwa · · Score: 1

    When was the last time they released a product that wasn't amazing? This is one of my favorite software companies and I doubt they will let a movie that is less than good out. From commander keen to doom iii, ID has never failed to deliver.

  88. Haven't we already learned... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 1

    ...that movies based on video games suck 100% of the time? I'm being completely serious here. Name one movie based on a video game that didn't suck. Just one. I dare you.

    1. Re:Haven't we already learned... by grioghar · · Score: 1

      Resident Evil.

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    2. Re:Haven't we already learned... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 1

      Resident Evil? Come on!!! That blew chunx!! Try again. Personally, I think the Andromeda Strain and 2001 a Space Odyssey got it right the first time and they didn't have any video games to "inspire" them.

    3. Re:Haven't we already learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pokemon (all 6 of them)!!! Not only it brings in the dough, but it actually has a decent story. But of course, it isn't design for you macho action blow everything up guys...

  89. Sod Doom... by VVrath · · Score: 1

    ... A Duke Nukem movie would kick some serious butt.

    No need to invent a protagonist, and plenty of dick jokes, witty catchphrases, nudity and violence too. What more could you ask for in a game/film crossover?

  90. Gotta straighten out some facts here by kravlor · · Score: 1
    Doom took place on the Moon and Hell, while Doom 2 was on Earth. Neither of these places are Mars, as was alluded to in the article.

    This should be an _interesting_ movie to see, given the total lack of plot in the games and the cast they're able to assemble!

    ... and I want to see John take some serious revenge for Hellspawn killing your pet bunny. :)

    1. Re:Gotta straighten out some facts here by arose · · Score: 1

      Firt episode of Doom took place on Phobos. Second on Deimos. Both are moons of Mars.

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  91. It's only a matter of time now before by milatchi · · Score: 1

    Commander Keen gets the green light.

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  92. half the people by milatchi · · Score: 1

    who work/worked at id have been named John.
    Examples:
    John Carmack
    John Cash
    John Romero

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  93. Is this a karma burning contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez dude,
    I thought I had seen it all, expecting all geeks to be somewhat intelligent... but this post is either:
    a) sarcastic, in which you did a rather poor job.
    b) total mysogenist. Did your mother drop you when you were a baby or something? Did a female co-worker got promoted and you did not?

    It has been proven in many scientific studies that women are inferior to men
    Total bull. And you know it. Inferior how?
    a)Less intelligent? You'd be surprised, and in case you point towards history to show how little of the "great inventors" were female, it would also be usefull to know that woman were barred from education for a long time. But i guess you wouldn't have a problem with it when those good ol' times come back, do you?
    b)Lesser physical strength? Well, it's true that in the olympics the male records are better than the female ones, but then again... You make it sound like you yourself are "better" than all women. I'd like to see you perform against female top athletes. And in case you did not know: in general women use less resources (energy, oxygen) than men for the same amount of physical labour. So while we (yes i'm male) may be a bit stronger, they are more efficient.

    In the Bible (the word of God)
    Mmm, I guess this says enough about you already...
    Religious zealots are rarely heard saying intelligent stuff.

    And the Middle-East things you say can have only one conclusion for me: if you like it that way, go live in the (i'm generalizing now) rotten hell that is the middle east. In case you did not notice: it is only because of the growing account of female scientific work that the Western world is so advanced, or didn't you notice that there hasn't been so many great inventions this century coming from the middle east. And I'm willing to bet that the awfull situation of the women (ne education, no rights,...) in those countries have a lot to do with it...

  94. Wow... from the no hope category... by salesgeek · · Score: 1

    I could see a movie from a game with a decent plot:

    * Fallout the movie
    * Homeworld
    * Max Payne (ok... it's a spoof on movies, so spoof the spoof)

    But... Doom? Three possibly worse movies:

    * Space Invaders the motion picture.
    * Star Control
    * Super Mario... oh wait...

    Even wolfenstien would be better than doom... I need a medkit.

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  95. character development? by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

    it is odd that he rushes to admit the original game had no character development. i disagree. the main character is the player, aka, you. everyone can remember the first time they played doom, and the impact it had on them. it probably had a more significant aspect if you played it when it was first downloadable via BBS, when no one had ever seen anything like it before.

    the isolation and fear that develop inside the players head during the game could be considered a time of character development, albeit on a diet!

    i would think a movie adaptation of doom could conceivably focus less on monsters and action and more on the isolation of being a lone marine on mars surrounded by hidden evil things that are hunting you. i'm thinking of films like Cube, The Quiet Earth, Solaris, 2001 (Dave Bowman's isolation), Castaway (seriously!), etc.

    but it sounds like it'll be another cliche action film based on the interview.

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  96. Doom - The Comic by naspime · · Score: 1

    If this turns out to be anything like the comic book, I'd be worried. Very worried.

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  97. To be truly like the game... by AussieBastard · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the 'disposable' characters should all be called "Player" and would get 0wned as soon as each firefight commenced. The main actors would then unanimously chime in with "omfg n00b!! r00fles!!!". I wonder... to be truly like the game, should there be characters that shoot themselves in the arse with their own rockets?

  98. I preferred my Doom (demo) movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A new nco is transferred to Mars base. Lots of wondering around outside looking at the nice shadows.

    He runs through the first part of the base attempting to punch civilians, and instead ending up talking to them. Supposed to be finding some doctor guy.

    After wondering and talking to some very boring people. he finds a handgun. Headshots the next 4/5 civilians+marines he meets, including the doctor guy.

    Bunch of weird flashing lights. Finally, zombies! Framerate drops to zero, movie ends.

  99. Technically, the other way around. by Behrooz · · Score: 1

    Technically, Duke Nukem just stole a lot of the 'tude and lines from AOD.

    AOD: 1993.
    DN3D: 1996.

    Does that give Duke Nukem 3-D a "-1, Redundant"?

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    1. Re:Technically, the other way around. by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      It was meant to be a funny quip, not a statement of fact. Maybe I should have couched my response in terms of "In Soviet Russia, Duke Nukem 3D is made into movie sequel, Army Of Darkness," or something like that...sheesh...

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  100. I can see the promo now... by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 1

    "Demons killed his favorite parents...

    "Big mistake."

  101. Doom influenced by a movie in the first place by Spekdah · · Score: 1

    C'mon, who has not seen the Evil Dead series movies? They were fantastic. I am sure somewhere I read that the original games were influenced by these movies. In the second film Ash loses his hand, the the third film is the trademark Remington shotgun and chainsaw combination. Got to be one of my fave B series horror flicks! check out http://www.houseofhorrors.com/evildead2.htm and http://www.houseofhorrors.com/aod/pages/armyof.htm It even has the chainsaw on the cover! "Shop smart, shop S-Mart!" heh Go Ash!

  102. Director by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Me hopes Uwe Boll will mastermind this project!