Many a plan was wrecked by impatience. Free software seems to be taking off now. It would be a shame to see you turn away from it.
I think the folks like Mark Shuttleworth are useful. By making the free software easier to use, by allowing bits of proprietary drivers, they enable the free software to run on platforms that have pretty much been engineered to prevent that. They help make the free software popular enough for vendors to pay attention to demand for free software. In the server room this shows in hardware that's more open now than it's ever been. It shows in innovative platforms like mobile, where the platforms have never been as open and free as they've been today. By driving market share they make obfuscated hardware uneconomical to the vendor.
By doing this they show the end user the power of openness and freedom. Even if the freedom isn't as pure as we like, it's better now than it was before and the bar goes ever higher. With app stores and repositories they make it easier for the customers to get their software, whether it's free or not, without the hindrance of a walled garden. By doing so in ways that aren't biased one way or the other they treat the customer's freedom of choice with respect, and gain trust. Surely you're not so adamant that Free software remain Free that you would deprive people of the freedom to choose a commercial proprietary solution if it serves their need in a way no Free solution does. I certainly don't think every free software developer feels that way, or even most.
The all-proprietary, all closed folk are still out there trying to maintain their business model. If the market lets up on them just a little they'll be sneaking in WinModems and deliberately obfuscated wireless chipsets and stuff like that again. I would rather that not happen. There are some devices that don't have open drivers. You note they suffer a shorter useful life therefore. They don't perform as well, as reliably. They are not as adaptable to other platforms like BSD. Those are liabilities that will hopefully lead to a general understanding that you need to look at such things when choosing your hardware so as to get the best value for your money, the most reliable performance, the most freedom of action. It seems to me that things are moving in that direction, even if the pace is slow.
So as offensive as they are I think the aggressive, competitive, almost completely open source software people serve a useful purpose. I think it's always time to encourage them to do better, but the time to demand it is when the bigger battle is won. Sadly I don't think it will happen fast enough for us to see the end of it.
I was actually thinking precession of the Equinoxes, which is a completely different process than axial precession. I was thinking wrong, though, further study shows. That motion has no impact on the orbital plane of a planet's orbit - only on the shape and speed of its motion on that plane. So... never mind.
And in the 174th year after none of the ships were launched because there would always be a faster one, out of the dark came interstellar visitors of our own. Properly speaking they were barely moving relative to the galactic plane, but our solar system's orbit about the galaxy passed through their stagnant pond - the relic of a dozen wrecked solar systems much like our own. First the pebbles came, and then the stones. With interstellar velocities multiplying their energies they made asteroids look like Elm seeds. By the second year a minivan sized rock was falling every month. And then it was too late. The last telescope satellite spotted it just a few lunar orbits out - the killer rock, too close to turn, too big to survive.
Let us have our fun. There are many rocks of a size, and we didn't know that before. Some of these must have found a comfortable home between the ice and the fire. How many for sure will have to wait a while.
We're 1 year and four months into a 3 1/2 year mission. When you consider that such planets happening to orbit their sun in such a way as for their eclipse to fall upon us in the short time available to see so many is wonderful. I doubt we'll see many of these twice in the habitable zone due to orbital precession.
To the colonial board the survivability of the target planet mattered little. If it was an Eden their charges the colonists might survive and do well, or find a way to fail. If it was a hell they might perish, or win out. No matter which way it went they were rid of them, and that was what mattered.
For many workloads like VMHosting and rendering the AMD server 12-core chips do make great sense - especially if you're doing the free software too. These days the type of workload that requires both a lot of processing power and doesn't thread well is pretty rare. Except in the context of this discussion. Apple doesn't use AMD chips yet.
SSDs already do things now that HDDs could never do - like provide sufficient capacity, I/Os per second and low enough latency to satisfy the I/O needs of a maxed out virtual host with internal storage, or a virtual host for VDI. In a next-gen SAN like the WhipTail they beat $1/IOPS, which is necessary for making VDI cost effective. They do it with a power to IOPS ratio that's so superior it's not even directly comparable, in a form factor that's like comparing a toaster to a refrigerator.
Performance against spinning rust was beat off the line. Storage capacity is almost beat already (400GB SFF SSD, 1TB LFF), and the only reason it isn't flat beat is because the engineers rebel against storage media that's capable of oversaturating its connection bandwidth by such a large factor - they CAN put that many chips in that box but the idea is offensive. The only issue left of the big three is price. Prices of SSDs are coming down faster than HDD prices so the trend is clear. SSDs will replace spinning drives on more and more applications. You can plot an intersect if you want - I'm pretty sure that against enterprise spinning disk the intersect is less than the five years out stated in the article. SSD is the new tape.
And that's without considering those impossible technological evolutions explored in your post and elsewhere in the thread.
The article starts from a false assumption: that the postal service must be profitable, or at least break even.
This is a very old idea - mail services are a very old service and have pretty much been self-funded or profitable the whole time. Ben Franklin's long and distinguished career as a postmaster for the British Crown began as postmaster of Philadelphia, and raised them quite a bit of money. In 1753 he was made Postmaster general of the American Colonies. He was only let go in 1774 because of his association with some notorious rabble rousers.
When he was made the Postmaster General by the Continental Congress in 1775 there was no Federal income tax at the time, nor any deficit, nor a central bank and it didn't look like there would ever be. They thought differently back then but I think he felt it being self-funded was a good plan for making it persistent - heck, to make it work at all. It's worked for this long, I see no reason to start second guessing it now. Don't we have some broken stuff to fix?
It's a service provided by the government. The right price to charge for it is approximately what it costs, so if they're projecting a deficit they should raise the rates. Maybe they should charge more for the junk mail. Mail too important to turn over to a private corporation which pretty much by definition has to charge all that the traffic will bear.
I believe the D510 boots from USB by default, but that can be turned off in the BIOS. If it's turned off you'll have to turn it on. I don't have my D510 samples here today or I'd test it for you.
ASUS is still in the grip. Now they're just announcing vapor tablets to try and slow the iPad onslaught. Same with HP. Those things will never see the light of day.
It's not a Windows app. It's a DOS app. It runs fine in FreeDOS. FreeDOS comes with Clonezilla, which is a pen based distro for system cloning for backup. Make a bootable pen and copy the exe file onto it, then boot it and select the FreeDOS on the menu and run the.exe to update the flash.
The Evo D510 is a neat little box and you can pick them up for free in a lot of places. Still works fine with Linux. Won't ever run W7 well.
Check that out. "Anti-virus,Anti-spyware" "Unwarranted"
Didn't that used to say "unnecessary" or something? Gotta love that. Turn a huge positive like no active viruses in the wild into a negative by implying that such stuff is not covered by the warranty.
Storage arrays come with their own wireless access points now. Just buy one, upgrade the antenna, point it at a neighbor's open wireless hub and you're good. Buy the neighbor an access hub if you have to. Then pass around fliers that say "neighborhood music and video backup pool, email suprsekrit@gmail for details". Configure the thing to grant access only to a list, and grant list access only to people known to be local to you (if nothing else by IP address), and you're done. Remember to remind people that the service is for backup of content they own only, and the fact that they can access other people's media backups is a convenience issue that will be corrected as soon as feasible. Ask neighbors to assist with backup quality assurance by viewing the files and reporting errors. Content owners would have to jump through a lot of unprofitable hoops to find it including being local to you (the biggie, generally not gonna happen), that it is you (technical challenge) and then prove you intended some ill purpose not stated (difficult in court at best). You can then backup to the pool all you want. Believe it: your neighbors have a lot to backup, so make the array a big one. If you're super-cautious, only allow access after you've met the people at community events where you serve a common but different cause (church? soup kitchen? UG?). To be caught then you'd have to be socializing with recording industry lawyers, and that seems unlikely. To make it completely impossible include only the people involved in activities unlikely to be frequented by a media lawyer (basically any social event that doesn't involve cocaine). To be truly bulletproof internet services in untenanted apartments can be achieved.
If you have to, or want to, you can use a similar system to aggregate your neighborhood bandwidth and offer free wireless internet to the less privileged (and incidentally the anonymous) as well as delivering immense bandwidth to participating link subscribers. This is the advanced class, and requires a network guru. I have 50mbps and am not using even a bare fraction so this isn't an issue for me, but with neighborhood aggregation I could meet 1gbps bandwidth without using fiber just by running some Cat6 along the fenceline and working out a deal with the neighbors. I live in an older area. Modern US real-estate developments are not purposefully designed to optimize fenceline network strategies, but their real estate optimization strategies are functionally equivalent to fenceline network optimization designs because minimizing street area to salable area ratio tends to yield fences that reach large numbers of homes. Bridging the gaps with fast wireless yields immense communities. In a modern development true 10Gbps aggregate internet bandwidth may be achievable, based on how oversubscribed the service is. With IPV6 it's possible to provide some services as well.
IANAL. Most specifically I'm not your lawyer. Your lawyer would probably tell you that if you lend your brother your Mettalica CD, there's probably a recording industry cause of action there somewhere. This post is for entertainment value only. No anchovies unless specifically requested.
Maybe if we want to get a probe out that way it could hitch a ride - and keep an eye on its dangerous companion as well.
While we're at it, Ceres is a nice asteroid to visit. It will be in a good spot in four years. It's likely completely covered with ice, could have liquid water, and has a nice low escape velocity - especially when you consider the rotational boost at the equator. Why, it's got a lot of the stuff you would be looking for in a fuel depot in the asteroid belt as a gateway to the stars. If Obama wants to visit Asteroids, let me recommend the biggest one.
I think if I was writing sci-fi I'd put habitation rings on the poles of Ceres and then accelerate them until they had a comfortable.5G or so on the perimeter. Probably counter-rotate the rings and tunnel through the planetoid from axis to axis. Nuclear power of course. Access through the Axis where it's close to 0G. An AI controlled water-based auto gyro-balancing mechanism can correct for people and stuff moving about on the wheels and hosing up the gyro. Asteroid mining ships wouldn't dock, they're too big. They'd get their water and provisions by scheduling an intercept vector. Launching would be a matter of pumping water to the right spot on the equator, embedding potables and manufactured goods and trackers and letting it freeze and then letting it out on a tether until it had even more rotational velocity and letting it go at the right moment. On Ceres the space elevator idea works well. Maybe snow-coat the package for impact absorption and target an asteroid close to the miner far off in the belt. Trade for fissionables and high grade ore - just launch the package into a Ceres intercept vector tagged with an invoice number and minimal course-correction waldos for close approach control.
Asteroid miners could visit on shuttles though - land on the equator, hop a local shuttle and enter through the Axis, or better yet - an elevator to the Core habitat with tunnels to the poles. Maybe I'd spin the core habitat too, and land the elevator just off it. With a surface gravity of 0.02G, the core pressure can't be too high for a habitat that's well armored by the mass of the planetoid. The equator gives a nice rotational vector for liftoff, reducing escape delta-v by almost 1/4. It's a great spot for a spaceport and colony - except for the long winters of course. Probably some cultural differences between Ringers and Grounders on Ceres to build a story around, lots of caves to explore to work in an ET angle. With 2.6 million square kilometers of surface area maybe some real-estate issues. A few billion years ago it was quite a lot warmer out this far, as the Sun was much brighter, so the alien relics can represent species more like us. Lots of ice to take cores of and find evidence of panspermia for the stories.
While we're at it, let's have asteroid miners drop laser reflectors and/or radar transponders on the largest asteroids they visit - that just happen to illuminate much of the belt in a way that facilitates object tracking.
Ceres is too rock-active for an interstellar spaceport and starship shipwright. For that you need a low-G environment near a planet that's swept its orbit so I would put that on Phobos probably.
There are lots of rocks out there. Impacts have to be fairly frequent too for added drama. It's likely by now the dust-to-pea sized stuff is well collected by now into larger asteroids so it's just the Walnut-to-city sized stuff to worry about. I wonder if anybody's calculated asteroid intercepts for Ceres yet. Ceres has had a long time to intercept the easy targets, just as Earth has, but there are a lot more rocks in that neighborhood than ours.
... They will be wanting their geeky friends to put non-compromised software on it. Seriously: 'Junkware' comes standard on Verizon, T-Mobile smart phones - and cannot be removed. What - the - heck - are - they - thinking? Shovelware... on a phone. That can't be removed. Son, I am disappoint.
We finally get a cutting edge, utterly awesome Android phone platform and it comes with the modern equivalent of AOL that can't be removed - and not just one, but a whole suite of demo-ware, trial-ware, nagware, a freaking MOVIE - none of which can be deleted. Fabulous.
Does anybody at Motorola even understand what this Android thing is about?
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Many a plan was wrecked by impatience. Free software seems to be taking off now. It would be a shame to see you turn away from it.
I think the folks like Mark Shuttleworth are useful. By making the free software easier to use, by allowing bits of proprietary drivers, they enable the free software to run on platforms that have pretty much been engineered to prevent that. They help make the free software popular enough for vendors to pay attention to demand for free software. In the server room this shows in hardware that's more open now than it's ever been. It shows in innovative platforms like mobile, where the platforms have never been as open and free as they've been today. By driving market share they make obfuscated hardware uneconomical to the vendor.
By doing this they show the end user the power of openness and freedom. Even if the freedom isn't as pure as we like, it's better now than it was before and the bar goes ever higher. With app stores and repositories they make it easier for the customers to get their software, whether it's free or not, without the hindrance of a walled garden. By doing so in ways that aren't biased one way or the other they treat the customer's freedom of choice with respect, and gain trust. Surely you're not so adamant that Free software remain Free that you would deprive people of the freedom to choose a commercial proprietary solution if it serves their need in a way no Free solution does. I certainly don't think every free software developer feels that way, or even most.
The all-proprietary, all closed folk are still out there trying to maintain their business model. If the market lets up on them just a little they'll be sneaking in WinModems and deliberately obfuscated wireless chipsets and stuff like that again. I would rather that not happen. There are some devices that don't have open drivers. You note they suffer a shorter useful life therefore. They don't perform as well, as reliably. They are not as adaptable to other platforms like BSD. Those are liabilities that will hopefully lead to a general understanding that you need to look at such things when choosing your hardware so as to get the best value for your money, the most reliable performance, the most freedom of action. It seems to me that things are moving in that direction, even if the pace is slow.
So as offensive as they are I think the aggressive, competitive, almost completely open source software people serve a useful purpose. I think it's always time to encourage them to do better, but the time to demand it is when the bigger battle is won. Sadly I don't think it will happen fast enough for us to see the end of it.
Botnet design does have useful legitimate applications. Just without the sans-permission part.
Else there'd be no home fire burning for the returning wanderer to tell the tale around.
I was actually thinking precession of the Equinoxes, which is a completely different process than axial precession. I was thinking wrong, though, further study shows. That motion has no impact on the orbital plane of a planet's orbit - only on the shape and speed of its motion on that plane. So... never mind.
And in the 174th year after none of the ships were launched because there would always be a faster one, out of the dark came interstellar visitors of our own. Properly speaking they were barely moving relative to the galactic plane, but our solar system's orbit about the galaxy passed through their stagnant pond - the relic of a dozen wrecked solar systems much like our own. First the pebbles came, and then the stones. With interstellar velocities multiplying their energies they made asteroids look like Elm seeds. By the second year a minivan sized rock was falling every month. And then it was too late. The last telescope satellite spotted it just a few lunar orbits out - the killer rock, too close to turn, too big to survive.
There would be no ships.
The end.
Perhaps people aren't ready to doom themselves and their descendants to live and die in a ship.
Some people always choose to stay home by the fire. Some prefer to see how far they can go. I guess we know which group you're in.
Let us have our fun. There are many rocks of a size, and we didn't know that before. Some of these must have found a comfortable home between the ice and the fire. How many for sure will have to wait a while.
We're 1 year and four months into a 3 1/2 year mission. When you consider that such planets happening to orbit their sun in such a way as for their eclipse to fall upon us in the short time available to see so many is wonderful. I doubt we'll see many of these twice in the habitable zone due to orbital precession.
To the colonial board the survivability of the target planet mattered little. If it was an Eden their charges the colonists might survive and do well, or find a way to fail. If it was a hell they might perish, or win out. No matter which way it went they were rid of them, and that was what mattered.
For many workloads like VMHosting and rendering the AMD server 12-core chips do make great sense - especially if you're doing the free software too. These days the type of workload that requires both a lot of processing power and doesn't thread well is pretty rare. Except in the context of this discussion. Apple doesn't use AMD chips yet.
These look finely edited to me.
SSDs already do things now that HDDs could never do - like provide sufficient capacity, I/Os per second and low enough latency to satisfy the I/O needs of a maxed out virtual host with internal storage, or a virtual host for VDI. In a next-gen SAN like the WhipTail they beat $1/IOPS, which is necessary for making VDI cost effective. They do it with a power to IOPS ratio that's so superior it's not even directly comparable, in a form factor that's like comparing a toaster to a refrigerator.
Performance against spinning rust was beat off the line. Storage capacity is almost beat already (400GB SFF SSD, 1TB LFF), and the only reason it isn't flat beat is because the engineers rebel against storage media that's capable of oversaturating its connection bandwidth by such a large factor - they CAN put that many chips in that box but the idea is offensive. The only issue left of the big three is price. Prices of SSDs are coming down faster than HDD prices so the trend is clear. SSDs will replace spinning drives on more and more applications. You can plot an intersect if you want - I'm pretty sure that against enterprise spinning disk the intersect is less than the five years out stated in the article. SSD is the new tape.
And that's without considering those impossible technological evolutions explored in your post and elsewhere in the thread.
Choice is bad! Stupid Americans and their 37 different choices of bottled water in the 7-11.
Multitasking.
Check out the WhipTail and Nimbus arrays. I think WhipTail brags something like over 7 years with no degradation, or they'll replace the media.
The article starts from a false assumption: that the postal service must be profitable, or at least break even.
This is a very old idea - mail services are a very old service and have pretty much been self-funded or profitable the whole time. Ben Franklin's long and distinguished career as a postmaster for the British Crown began as postmaster of Philadelphia, and raised them quite a bit of money. In 1753 he was made Postmaster general of the American Colonies. He was only let go in 1774 because of his association with some notorious rabble rousers.
When he was made the Postmaster General by the Continental Congress in 1775 there was no Federal income tax at the time, nor any deficit, nor a central bank and it didn't look like there would ever be. They thought differently back then but I think he felt it being self-funded was a good plan for making it persistent - heck, to make it work at all. It's worked for this long, I see no reason to start second guessing it now. Don't we have some broken stuff to fix?
It's a service provided by the government. The right price to charge for it is approximately what it costs, so if they're projecting a deficit they should raise the rates. Maybe they should charge more for the junk mail. Mail too important to turn over to a private corporation which pretty much by definition has to charge all that the traffic will bear.
Next up: hardware that only works with Windows, a-la "winmodems" and wireless chipsets. Bye bye Dell.
I believe the D510 boots from USB by default, but that can be turned off in the BIOS. If it's turned off you'll have to turn it on. I don't have my D510 samples here today or I'd test it for you.
ASUS is still in the grip. Now they're just announcing vapor tablets to try and slow the iPad onslaught. Same with HP. Those things will never see the light of day.
It's not a Windows app. It's a DOS app. It runs fine in FreeDOS. FreeDOS comes with Clonezilla, which is a pen based distro for system cloning for backup. Make a bootable pen and copy the exe file onto it, then boot it and select the FreeDOS on the menu and run the .exe to update the flash.
The Evo D510 is a neat little box and you can pick them up for free in a lot of places. Still works fine with Linux. Won't ever run W7 well.
Check that out. "Anti-virus,Anti-spyware" "Unwarranted"
Didn't that used to say "unnecessary" or something? Gotta love that. Turn a huge positive like no active viruses in the wild into a negative by implying that such stuff is not covered by the warranty.
Storage arrays come with their own wireless access points now. Just buy one, upgrade the antenna, point it at a neighbor's open wireless hub and you're good. Buy the neighbor an access hub if you have to. Then pass around fliers that say "neighborhood music and video backup pool, email suprsekrit@gmail for details". Configure the thing to grant access only to a list, and grant list access only to people known to be local to you (if nothing else by IP address), and you're done. Remember to remind people that the service is for backup of content they own only, and the fact that they can access other people's media backups is a convenience issue that will be corrected as soon as feasible. Ask neighbors to assist with backup quality assurance by viewing the files and reporting errors. Content owners would have to jump through a lot of unprofitable hoops to find it including being local to you (the biggie, generally not gonna happen), that it is you (technical challenge) and then prove you intended some ill purpose not stated (difficult in court at best). You can then backup to the pool all you want. Believe it: your neighbors have a lot to backup, so make the array a big one. If you're super-cautious, only allow access after you've met the people at community events where you serve a common but different cause (church? soup kitchen? UG?). To be caught then you'd have to be socializing with recording industry lawyers, and that seems unlikely. To make it completely impossible include only the people involved in activities unlikely to be frequented by a media lawyer (basically any social event that doesn't involve cocaine). To be truly bulletproof internet services in untenanted apartments can be achieved.
If you have to, or want to, you can use a similar system to aggregate your neighborhood bandwidth and offer free wireless internet to the less privileged (and incidentally the anonymous) as well as delivering immense bandwidth to participating link subscribers. This is the advanced class, and requires a network guru. I have 50mbps and am not using even a bare fraction so this isn't an issue for me, but with neighborhood aggregation I could meet 1gbps bandwidth without using fiber just by running some Cat6 along the fenceline and working out a deal with the neighbors. I live in an older area. Modern US real-estate developments are not purposefully designed to optimize fenceline network strategies, but their real estate optimization strategies are functionally equivalent to fenceline network optimization designs because minimizing street area to salable area ratio tends to yield fences that reach large numbers of homes. Bridging the gaps with fast wireless yields immense communities. In a modern development true 10Gbps aggregate internet bandwidth may be achievable, based on how oversubscribed the service is. With IPV6 it's possible to provide some services as well.
IANAL. Most specifically I'm not your lawyer. Your lawyer would probably tell you that if you lend your brother your Mettalica CD, there's probably a recording industry cause of action there somewhere. This post is for entertainment value only. No anchovies unless specifically requested.
Maybe if we want to get a probe out that way it could hitch a ride - and keep an eye on its dangerous companion as well.
While we're at it, Ceres is a nice asteroid to visit. It will be in a good spot in four years. It's likely completely covered with ice, could have liquid water, and has a nice low escape velocity - especially when you consider the rotational boost at the equator. Why, it's got a lot of the stuff you would be looking for in a fuel depot in the asteroid belt as a gateway to the stars. If Obama wants to visit Asteroids, let me recommend the biggest one.
I think if I was writing sci-fi I'd put habitation rings on the poles of Ceres and then accelerate them until they had a comfortable .5G or so on the perimeter. Probably counter-rotate the rings and tunnel through the planetoid from axis to axis. Nuclear power of course. Access through the Axis where it's close to 0G. An AI controlled water-based auto gyro-balancing mechanism can correct for people and stuff moving about on the wheels and hosing up the gyro. Asteroid mining ships wouldn't dock, they're too big. They'd get their water and provisions by scheduling an intercept vector. Launching would be a matter of pumping water to the right spot on the equator, embedding potables and manufactured goods and trackers and letting it freeze and then letting it out on a tether until it had even more rotational velocity and letting it go at the right moment. On Ceres the space elevator idea works well. Maybe snow-coat the package for impact absorption and target an asteroid close to the miner far off in the belt. Trade for fissionables and high grade ore - just launch the package into a Ceres intercept vector tagged with an invoice number and minimal course-correction waldos for close approach control.
Asteroid miners could visit on shuttles though - land on the equator, hop a local shuttle and enter through the Axis, or better yet - an elevator to the Core habitat with tunnels to the poles. Maybe I'd spin the core habitat too, and land the elevator just off it. With a surface gravity of 0.02G, the core pressure can't be too high for a habitat that's well armored by the mass of the planetoid. The equator gives a nice rotational vector for liftoff, reducing escape delta-v by almost 1/4. It's a great spot for a spaceport and colony - except for the long winters of course. Probably some cultural differences between Ringers and Grounders on Ceres to build a story around, lots of caves to explore to work in an ET angle. With 2.6 million square kilometers of surface area maybe some real-estate issues. A few billion years ago it was quite a lot warmer out this far, as the Sun was much brighter, so the alien relics can represent species more like us. Lots of ice to take cores of and find evidence of panspermia for the stories.
While we're at it, let's have asteroid miners drop laser reflectors and/or radar transponders on the largest asteroids they visit - that just happen to illuminate much of the belt in a way that facilitates object tracking.
Ceres is too rock-active for an interstellar spaceport and starship shipwright. For that you need a low-G environment near a planet that's swept its orbit so I would put that on Phobos probably.
There are lots of rocks out there. Impacts have to be fairly frequent too for added drama. It's likely by now the dust-to-pea sized stuff is well collected by now into larger asteroids so it's just the Walnut-to-city sized stuff to worry about. I wonder if anybody's calculated asteroid intercepts for Ceres yet. Ceres has had a long time to intercept the easy targets, just as Earth has, but there are a lot more rocks in that neighborhood than ours.
... They will be wanting their geeky friends to put non-compromised software on it. Seriously: 'Junkware' comes standard on Verizon, T-Mobile smart phones - and cannot be removed. What - the - heck - are - they - thinking? Shovelware ... on a phone. That can't be removed. Son, I am disappoint.
We finally get a cutting edge, utterly awesome Android phone platform and it comes with the modern equivalent of AOL that can't be removed - and not just one, but a whole suite of demo-ware, trial-ware, nagware, a freaking MOVIE - none of which can be deleted. Fabulous.
Does anybody at Motorola even understand what this Android thing is about?
'Junkware' comes standard on Verizon, T-Mobile smart phones
So yeah, I was looking forward to owning this phone and now I'm not. How can Motorola go so far astray with an Android phone?
I wish I had not seen the day. C'mon guys. You're better than this. /15 modpoints and nothing to spend them on.