The all-things-to-all people fallacy. When car shopping, do you ignore the sedan because it doesn't have the towing capacity of the truck? Do you ignore the truck because it doesn't have the passenger capacity of a full-sized van? Do you ignore the van because it gets worse gas millage and is harder to park than the sedan?
If the iWatch isn't worth it to you.....don't buy one. Zombie Steve isn't holding a gun to anyone's head.
Was Apple claiming to be the first to have a watch that watches heart rate? Does your wife's Polaris take voice commands, remind her of appointments, or have tactile GPS feedback depending on if she needs to turn left or right?
With a class action, the consumer/employee gets something for nothing.
Don't like it? Then hire your own damn lawyer to file your own damn case, with years of your life and tens of thousands of your own dollars on the line.
but it's not relevant at the companies involved here
Not relevant? Google employs H1B workers, and is #18 among all U.S. companies according to these guys. And the SOLE purpose of the H1B visa program is to depress wages. Google and Apple have More Money Than God, so there is no excuse whatsoever for them not paying for what they want.
The "but Ameruka is ruural" zombie hasn't improved with age.
But the solution doesn't just scale because the Alaska
And if people were only complaining about Alaska, that might be a good point. But they aren't, so it's not.
Go on, tell me that Alaska and Hawaii are trivial, or how they aren't in the US, or how they shouldn't factor in to average speeds.
Go on, tell us how Alaska and Hawaii have anything to do with slow internet access in Manhattan and San Francisco. Or why countries FAR more rural than the United States, such as Norway, have higher speeds.
Only if by "hogwash" you mean a systematic harassment
Pfft. And you started this thread with a post about deflection.
1) Both liberal and conservative groups were scrutinized 2) The only group to actually be denied was a liberal one 3) IRS was headed by a Bush appointee
But that's the standard issue stuff that's been known about for years. But there's one more, and to borrow that line about man and god,
4) If Obama hadn't come into an office with Teabaggers, he would have had to create them
FFS, the guy tried to re-legalize whaling when there isn't even a whaling industry around anymore to pander to. He's spent years trying to find a way to cut Social Security benefits, prosecuted more whisteblowers than all previous presidents combined times two, while being more draconian on immigrants and medical pot than his Republican predecessor. Ignore the empty promises he never had any intention of keeping - "any bill I sign must have a public option" - and look at his policies, and Obama is far to the right of Republican voters.
The Democrats would be unable to sell their omg-you-must-vote-for-Dems-or-President-Paul-will-destory-the-country bullshit without the Teabaggers around for distraction.
Yes, it is far better to be like Europe where they simply pay the terrorists a ransom, ignoring the fact that it continues to rise and fund the terrorism.
Willfully obtuse much? If the U.S. gets to bomb a few thousand people because one guy got his head cut off, what are the Muslims over there entitled to do to you in return for Predator Drones, Signature Strikes, and bombing weddings and funerals?
The largest and nastiest terrorist groups in the world are indisputably the United States and Israel.
You use a Death Star to reach that level of projection? It's an undisputed fact that the U.S. bragged about spending billions to give Ukraine "the future it deserves" in front of freaking banners for oil companies. It's an undisputed fact that the pro-west faction in Ukraine's parliament fell short of the number of votes needed to legally impeach the previous president, and so resorted to a violent coup less than six months before the next set of elections.
Regardless of how you feel about the protests, there were free, fair, credible, and widely recognized elections after those events. Fail.
Other than the pro-east section of the electorate being cut out, and the billion in aid immediately sent by Congress to support the junta, you mean.
The current government of Ukraine is 100% legit by any standard.
100% imperialistic neocon horseshit, by any standard. How you American Exceptionalists managed to go through the Iraq war and emerge with worse bullshit detectors than before is bizarre.
NOW you care about elections, after the previous president was overthrown less than six months before the next polls? After the eastern part of the country that was Yanukovych's base was cut out of the electorate?
What's the appropriate response to that, American Exceptionalist?
Seriously, after that sawing off a live man's head, I have NO problem with blowing these assholes away. In fact, I would be happy to pull the trigger to launch.
Sooo many Americans that learned sooo little from the Iraq invasion. Easily manipulated once, shame on them, easily manipulated twice, shame on you.
Oh, it's not at all hard to understand that you're a knee-jerk authoritarian ignoring the facts. Specifically, that Sweden has a recent history of turning over prisoners to the U.S. to be tortured. Which is why Ecuador offered Assange asylum.
SKIPPING BAIL. RESISTING ARREST.
So he's subject to arrest for avoiding arrest? Didn't think that piece of circular logic through, did you?
So apart from skipping bail, resisting arrest, and everything else, the charges in Sweden mean little at this point. And the UK, whether you think they are in collusion or not, have the right to enforce their law on their soil (and, no, the embassy is NOT Ecuadorian soil, don't make that "old wives' tale" mistake).
What UK laws is he accused of violating on UK soil? You've got plenty of authoritarian mental gymnastics already, might as well keep going.
There are two women involved here: AA and SW (and no, their names haven't been scrubbed, but it's a sick testament to our society than rather than letting justice run its course, everyone wants to lead a personal witch hunt against the accusers, and I certainly won't help enable it)
Nah, you're too busy being a paid witch-hunter of the accused. Who should have their names withheld by the press in the event that they are innocent...just ask the Duke Lacross guys.
Oh come on now. Sweden should change their laws and override the separation of powers clause in their constitition because it's ASSANGE we're talking about. I mean, don't they know that he's just the AWESOMEST AWESOME that ever AWESOMED and everything revolves around him?
Forget going back years, you're contradicting yourself in the same thread:
Wrong. Sweden *additionally* has restrictions in their extradition law banning extradition for intelligence and military crimes, beyond the general EU restrictions. Which is why they refused to hand over Edward Lee Howard (the most major CIA defector to the USSR) after only a very brief preliminary investigation; it's simply banned to extradite for such crimes.
What, not enough money in the budget to hire some smarter trolls, so you're the best they could come up with? You just laid out exactly how Sweden could promise Assange that they wouldn't extradite him for for any intelligence crimes Wikileaks may or may not have committed.
The all-things-to-all people fallacy. When car shopping, do you ignore the sedan because it doesn't have the towing capacity of the truck? Do you ignore the truck because it doesn't have the passenger capacity of a full-sized van? Do you ignore the van because it gets worse gas millage and is harder to park than the sedan?
If the iWatch isn't worth it to you.....don't buy one. Zombie Steve isn't holding a gun to anyone's head.
Was Apple claiming to be the first to have a watch that watches heart rate? Does your wife's Polaris take voice commands, remind her of appointments, or have tactile GPS feedback depending on if she needs to turn left or right?
Simple answers for simple questions....
Do you rush into Tesla stories with the BREAKING NEWS that they didn't invent the car, and then pat yourself on the back for being so clever?
Throw hot grits at em until they get off our lawns....
So don't freaking buy one if it's not what you want. It's not like Zombie Jobs is holding a gun to your head.
Aside from the first iPod, the first to use a fast interface (400 Mpbs Firewire vs 11 Mpbs USB 1.1).
And the first iPhone
And the first iPad.
Or the first high-res mobile display.
Or by weight.
Or by processor speed.
Other than that, yeah, they've totally lagged on technical features.
...which are pretty much worthless with Find My iPhone turned on by default.
They're quoting CmdrTaco, who used those exact words to describe the original iPod upon it's announcement. Damn kids these days....
With a class action, the consumer/employee gets something for nothing.
Don't like it? Then hire your own damn lawyer to file your own damn case, with years of your life and tens of thousands of your own dollars on the line.
Not relevant? Google employs H1B workers, and is #18 among all U.S. companies according to these guys. And the SOLE purpose of the H1B visa program is to depress wages. Google and Apple have More Money Than God, so there is no excuse whatsoever for them not paying for what they want.
The "but Ameruka is ruural" zombie hasn't improved with age.
And if people were only complaining about Alaska, that might be a good point. But they aren't, so it's not.
Go on, tell us how Alaska and Hawaii have anything to do with slow internet access in Manhattan and San Francisco. Or why countries FAR more rural than the United States, such as Norway, have higher speeds.
Are you so willfully obtuse? Ray Charles could have seen what the point was. And Ray Charles is blind.
And dead.
Pfft. And you started this thread with a post about deflection.
1) Both liberal and conservative groups were scrutinized
2) The only group to actually be denied was a liberal one
3) IRS was headed by a Bush appointee
But that's the standard issue stuff that's been known about for years. But there's one more, and to borrow that line about man and god,
4) If Obama hadn't come into an office with Teabaggers, he would have had to create them
FFS, the guy tried to re-legalize whaling when there isn't even a whaling industry around anymore to pander to. He's spent years trying to find a way to cut Social Security benefits, prosecuted more whisteblowers than all previous presidents combined times two, while being more draconian on immigrants and medical pot than his Republican predecessor. Ignore the empty promises he never had any intention of keeping - "any bill I sign must have a public option" - and look at his policies, and Obama is far to the right of Republican voters.
The Democrats would be unable to sell their omg-you-must-vote-for-Dems-or-President-Paul-will-destory-the-country bullshit without the Teabaggers around for distraction.
Nor your lack of self-awareness.
Because the rubes taking CIA propaganda at face value (you guys learned NOTHING from the Iraq war) have a slight problem with throwing stones from within glass houses.
Because what you took from the Iraq invasion was that hilariously bad government propaganda should be believed at all times?
Apple isn't a convicted monopolist.
Willfully obtuse much? If the U.S. gets to bomb a few thousand people because one guy got his head cut off, what are the Muslims over there entitled to do to you in return for Predator Drones, Signature Strikes, and bombing weddings and funerals?
The largest and nastiest terrorist groups in the world are indisputably the United States and Israel.
You use a Death Star to reach that level of projection? It's an undisputed fact that the U.S. bragged about spending billions to give Ukraine "the future it deserves" in front of freaking banners for oil companies. It's an undisputed fact that the pro-west faction in Ukraine's parliament fell short of the number of votes needed to legally impeach the previous president, and so resorted to a violent coup less than six months before the next set of elections.
Other than the pro-east section of the electorate being cut out, and the billion in aid immediately sent by Congress to support the junta, you mean.
100% imperialistic neocon horseshit, by any standard. How you American Exceptionalists managed to go through the Iraq war and emerge with worse bullshit detectors than before is bizarre.
NOW you care about elections, after the previous president was overthrown less than six months before the next polls? After the eastern part of the country that was Yanukovych's base was cut out of the electorate?
Bullshit called.
What's the appropriate response to that, American Exceptionalist?
Sooo many Americans that learned sooo little from the Iraq invasion. Easily manipulated once, shame on them, easily manipulated twice, shame on you.
Oh, it's not at all hard to understand that you're a knee-jerk authoritarian ignoring the facts. Specifically, that Sweden has a recent history of turning over prisoners to the U.S. to be tortured. Which is why Ecuador offered Assange asylum.
So he's subject to arrest for avoiding arrest? Didn't think that piece of circular logic through, did you?
What UK laws is he accused of violating on UK soil? You've got plenty of authoritarian mental gymnastics already, might as well keep going.
Nah, you're too busy being a paid witch-hunter of the accused. Who should have their names withheld by the press in the event that they are innocent...just ask the Duke Lacross guys.
Forget going back years, you're contradicting yourself in the same thread:
What, not enough money in the budget to hire some smarter trolls, so you're the best they could come up with? You just laid out exactly how Sweden could promise Assange that they wouldn't extradite him for for any intelligence crimes Wikileaks may or may not have committed.