They're more expensive than 90% of Americans who apply for the same job, and then again, they're more qualified than 90% of Americans who apply.
Yeah, because you're comparing the ones with degrees and Visas to the average American population. Why don't you try comparing their average workers to our average workers.
"Wall St" is not just 20 super rich people lighting cigars with $100 bills, it's 10's of thousands of talented, hard working people who contribute far more than their share to the economy of the city, state and nation.
Not so much. They pay half the rate for their stock options and bonuses than Joe Blow does for actually working.
Because, stupid, there isn't any money left for a raise after the top executives take their multimillion dollar bonuses on top of their multimillion dollar salaries and stock options.
And they were saying the same thing post WFW, and post 95, 98SE.
And Microsoft apologists have been making this weak sauce false comparison since Vista was released. Windows 2000 was a huge jump in usability over NT. XP didn't offer much over 2000, but migrating to it was basically painless.
Vista, however, offers virtually nothing in return for vastly increased hardware requirements.
I don't know why more people are shocked about this, but this goes back to Jan 2002, when Admiral Poindexter was putting together the Information Awareness Office, which ran the Total Information Awareness program.
Probably because Congress specifically denied any funding towards the TIA. However, it's been alleged that some administration officials started on something like TIA pretty much as soon as Bush & Cheney took office.
The "counterfeit coin" is the false premise that the individual exists to serve the collective blah blah rhetorical masturbation blah blah blah
You have the right to your own opinion, but you don't have the right to your own set of facts. And it's a fact that Republicans suck at any policy you care to name. More jobs were created under Clinton than Reagan and both Bushes combined. $10,000 invested under Republican presidents would have grown to a paltry $11,733 ($51,211 if you exclude Herbert Hoover), but over $300,000 under Democratic presidents.
The Democrat and Republican parties are the two sides of a counterfeit coin.
Have any more simplistic platitudes from 2nd grade that you'd like to share with us? Take shelter in your false equivalencies, but they wont change the fact that Republicans get crushed by Democrats on fiscal responsibility, job creation, civil rights and real national defense.
It's hard not to harm bystanders when the terrorists are hiding behind them.
Yes, it's not Hamas's fault that terrorists (members of the IDF) travel on buses, making them legitimate military targets. Nor is it their fault that the terrorists use human shields (members of the IDF going home to their families) or that Israel puts bases for militants in residential areas (police stations).
Nor is it Hamas's fault that Israel started the 1967 war with a sneak attack on the Egyptian air force, after Egypt blockaded the Straits of Tiran. So by Israeli logic, Hamas is perfectly justified in firing rockets and mortars in response to the blockade of Gaza.
17 Israelis died from Qassam rockets over the course of five years. Israel killed over 1300 Palestinians in a few weeks, after breaking the cease fire on the 4th of November. Moving past tired, 3rd grade platitudes, it's obvious who is at fault here: Israel.
does nothing to change the fact that Palestinian society has chosen to walk away from the peace process in favor of acting like spoiled, violent children.
Horseshit. It was Ariel Sharon, not Yassir Arafat, who walked away from the Olso peace talks. Sorry, but Zionist propaganda, much like wingnut propaganda, just doesn't fly anymore.
Do you expect people to continue investing just as much money when the rewards are lower?
If there's money to be made in investing, people will invest. Especially when they don't have to do any work to see a return on said investment. It's really not that hard....
If you sell your labor on the open market, you will be, by definition, compensated for exactly what your labor is worth. If you want more money, make yourself more valuable. Stop asking for gifts.
Awww, aren't you such a cute little elitist. Funny how this never applies to the executive level (GM's CEO still makes $16 mil a year despite the company losing $70 BILLION), only to the working stiffs (line workers have to take pay cuts, layoffs, and get crappy insurance).
At one point there were NINE wrestlers in the WWE that had BROKEN THEIR NECKS, had their neck vertebra FUSED, and then then RESUMED WRESTLING.
Pro-wrestling is not a sport as the results are scripted, but you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about if you think pro wrestling doesn't require a hell of a lot of athleticism. Aside from the vastly more grueling schedule (name a sport where you're on the road for 270+ days out of the year), you're expected to work through injuries that would sideline you in a second in the NBA or the NFL. Pulled hamstring? Work through it. Herniated disk in your back? Go out there and drop the title in a match before taking time off.
Kurt Angle - who headlined Wrestlemania knowing he was going in for neck surgery immediately afterword - pulled his groin, tore his abdominal muscle and blew his hamstring in his last night for the company. And he still finished the match.
If you don't like pro-wrestling, it's a free country. I haven't watched it in years. But if you don't think pro-wrestlers are athletes, go tell that to a wrestlers face and see what the result is.
Here you are admitting that the press beats up on Bush
Laughing when he tries to open a locked door isn't "beating up on Bush" by any stretch of the imagination. You fail. Again.
Implies that the press choses the president, not the voters.
If you don't think Bush pulled out a win in 2000 without the help of the press, your head has been lodged longer than previously thought. The media was so busying lying about Gore's "fib factor" that they managed to completely ignore the fact that Bush took credit for passing legislation in Texas that he actually vetoed while governor. The same press that was so focused on Obama's "lack of experience" last year never mentioned the fact that Gore had 30 years public service to Bush's five years as governor of Texas - the 5th most powerful politician in the state. The same press that spent years obsessing over Whitewater ignored Harken Energy.
you can't say "He stuck his cock in her mouth" without saying "He stuck his cock in her". That to me constitutes sex.
Then that's too fucking bad for you. Cock in mouth did not meet the court's definition of "sexual relations". Nor did cigar in vagina equal "sexual relations", because there was no "direct contact" involved. Deal. With. It.
Just because I can play devils advocate and because I happen to disagree with you on an issues doesn't make me partisan, or a hack, or a revisionist, whine whine whine blah blah blah
Stop being a hack and you'll stop being treated like a hack. Go ahead and mourn the days when conservative BS would be treated as serious critical thought, but those days are gone.
you admit that the press took joy in beating on Bush.
[Citation needed]
I never said he didn't do any of the things that they said he did, just that they enjoyed beating on him.
Which is the revisionist bullshit in question. If the press "enjoyed beating" on Bush, he never would have been elected in the first place, much less re-elected.
Feel free to think what you want about the war, but He couldn't have gotten us into the war, or funded it without the help of congressional dems and republicans.
Oh, many Dems deserve a lot of blame for handing Bush a loaded gun. But it was Bush's decision to fire it, and Bush's decision to lie us into war in the first place.
Speaking of lying, it was David Gregory, new host of Meet the Press, that said:
The right questions were asked. I think there's a lot of critics -- and I guess we can count Scott McClellan as one -- who thinks that if we did not debate the president, debate the policy in our role as journalists, if we did not stand up and say, "This is bogus," and "You're a liar," and "Why are you doing this?" that we didn't do our job. And I respectfully disagree. It's not our role.
No, Mr. Hack, that's exactly the role of the 4th estate.
Hell, Hilary voted for the war
Yes, she did. And it's the reason why she's not president right now instead of Obama.
Bill Clinton took a lot of respect away from the office by lying under oath.
What a surprise, you're 100% wrong. In fact, under the courts definition, he would have been lying if he had said he'd had "sexual relations" with Monica, as he didn't stick his cock in her.
The impeachment of Bill Clinton didn't happen because he "lied under oath", it happened because Republicans wanted to impeach him. When they couldn't nail him for fraud (Whitewater), murder (Vince Foster), or even a parking ticket, they settled on a manufactured perjury charge. Real justice would have been sending Starr and the Republicans in Congress to jail for malicious prosecution.
And just to prove how full of shit the GOP is on the issue of perjury, you had the same people arguing for Clinton's removal from office arguing for a pardon for Scooter Libby's perjury conviction. Hell, Fred Thompson, who voted to convict in the Senate, gave a speech where he passionately called for the rule of law, and passionately called for a pardon for Scooter Libby.
I would have preferred the later
What a surprise.
Get off of your sanctimonious high horse before you fall off and hurt yourself.
Blow your hypocritical double standards right out your ass, you pathetic partisan hack.
I never said he didn't give them a lot to work with, but I do believe that they took a certain amount of joy in beating on Bush.
Only in a "aww, isn't he so funny when he's clumsy" way, not a "wtf is this incompetent warmonger doing" way.
Please, do us all a favor. Take a valium before posting on Slashdot. We should all be able to have conversations without resorting to name calling. (I know, I know... "are you new here?")
You can have your comity when you either stop spreading revisionist BS, or find a way to go back in time and prevent 4,000+ needless deaths troop deaths in Iraq and put $4 trillion back into our treasury.
I don't believe that everyone in the press was beating up on Bush b/c they are partisan, although I do believe a lot of them are. For example, Helen Thomas admitted in an interview [2:40-3:25] that she was not only a liberal, but that she believes that all reporters have not choice to be anything other than liberal because of what they see, and the access that they have to the "Truth".
Reality does have a well known liberal bias. And I'll see your Helen Thomas and raise you David Broder, "dean" of the beltway press:
"He (Bill Clinton) came in here and he trashed the place and it wasn't his place"
(On Bush) "I am reluctant to see every big policy dispute turned into a criminal or impeachable affair. There needs to be accountability but there also needs to be proportionality"
So Clinton got a blowjob and he trashed the place. Bush tortures people, lies us into a war and taps our phones without warrants, and those are just "policy disputes".
I refuse to follow the line of "logic" that assumes that voting for a bill automatically means full support for every individual piece of that bill.
Then that's too god damned bad for you. The reality was, all of our spying needs were already met under existing law. And the Protect America Act provisions that gave Bush everything he wanted (minus immunity) ran through the end of his term. There was ZERO need for new legislation. The whole point of this bill was telecom immunity.
And you can argue till your blue in the face, but that doesn't change the other fact in the matter: Obama pledged to support a filibuster of any bill with immunity in it. Obama broke that promise.
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I suppose you could see that as a valid analogy, if you're head was firmly lodged in your ass.
Why appologize to a grammar and/nor spelling troll? There just anal-intentive goobers that should be ignored alot irrelardlesses.
Yawn.
Yeah, because you're comparing the ones with degrees and Visas to the average American population. Why don't you try comparing their average workers to our average workers.
"Wall St" is not just 20 super rich people lighting cigars with $100 bills, it's 10's of thousands of talented, hard working people who contribute far more than their share to the economy of the city, state and nation.
Not so much. They pay half the rate for their stock options and bonuses than Joe Blow does for actually working.
Because, stupid, there isn't any money left for a raise after the top executives take their multimillion dollar bonuses on top of their multimillion dollar salaries and stock options.
And they were saying the same thing post WFW, and post 95, 98SE.
And Microsoft apologists have been making this weak sauce false comparison since Vista was released. Windows 2000 was a huge jump in usability over NT. XP didn't offer much over 2000, but migrating to it was basically painless.
Vista, however, offers virtually nothing in return for vastly increased hardware requirements.
I don't know why more people are shocked about this, but this goes back to Jan 2002, when Admiral Poindexter was putting together the Information Awareness Office, which ran the Total Information Awareness program.
Probably because Congress specifically denied any funding towards the TIA. However, it's been alleged that some administration officials started on something like TIA pretty much as soon as Bush & Cheney took office.
Yea, I don't know were a grammar Nazi is supposed to go these days. Theirs just no hope for them.
Your colon would thank you, if you started ignoring reality by sticking your head in sand for a change.
By the way, I just overheard someone in the next cube say "irregardless." Not ironically. I rest my case.
That's too bad, I bet it bothered you alot.
The "counterfeit coin" is the false premise that the individual exists to serve the collective blah blah rhetorical masturbation blah blah blah
You have the right to your own opinion, but you don't have the right to your own set of facts. And it's a fact that Republicans suck at any policy you care to name. More jobs were created under Clinton than Reagan and both Bushes combined. $10,000 invested under Republican presidents would have grown to a paltry $11,733 ($51,211 if you exclude Herbert Hoover), but over $300,000 under Democratic presidents.
The Democrat and Republican parties are the two sides of a counterfeit coin.
Have any more simplistic platitudes from 2nd grade that you'd like to share with us? Take shelter in your false equivalencies, but they wont change the fact that Republicans get crushed by Democrats on fiscal responsibility, job creation, civil rights and real national defense.
Obama or the guy he is appointing?
When has Obama run a software company?
The problem with a "Cult of Personality" President is that the usual concerns don't question or challenge him.
As is usually the case, take the opposite of the wingnut viewpoint and you have reality.
It's hard not to harm bystanders when the terrorists are hiding behind them.
Yes, it's not Hamas's fault that terrorists (members of the IDF) travel on buses, making them legitimate military targets. Nor is it their fault that the terrorists use human shields (members of the IDF going home to their families) or that Israel puts bases for militants in residential areas (police stations).
Nor is it Hamas's fault that Israel started the 1967 war with a sneak attack on the Egyptian air force, after Egypt blockaded the Straits of Tiran. So by Israeli logic, Hamas is perfectly justified in firing rockets and mortars in response to the blockade of Gaza.
To apply this to the MidEast
17 Israelis died from Qassam rockets over the course of five years. Israel killed over 1300 Palestinians in a few weeks, after breaking the cease fire on the 4th of November. Moving past tired, 3rd grade platitudes, it's obvious who is at fault here: Israel.
does nothing to change the fact that Palestinian society has chosen to walk away from the peace process in favor of acting like spoiled, violent children.
Horseshit. It was Ariel Sharon, not Yassir Arafat, who walked away from the Olso peace talks. Sorry, but Zionist propaganda, much like wingnut propaganda, just doesn't fly anymore.
"Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." -- Golda Meir, Former PM of Israel
If that's the case, why did Israel break the cease fire on Nov. 4th?
Do you expect people to continue investing just as much money when the rewards are lower?
If there's money to be made in investing, people will invest. Especially when they don't have to do any work to see a return on said investment. It's really not that hard....
If you sell your labor on the open market, you will be, by definition, compensated for exactly what your labor is worth. If you want more money, make yourself more valuable. Stop asking for gifts.
Awww, aren't you such a cute little elitist. Funny how this never applies to the executive level (GM's CEO still makes $16 mil a year despite the company losing $70 BILLION), only to the working stiffs (line workers have to take pay cuts, layoffs, and get crappy insurance).
But thankfully the only mental problem I've noticed is that he votes Republican.
Lol. Poor bastard.
At one point there were NINE wrestlers in the WWE that had BROKEN THEIR NECKS, had their neck vertebra FUSED, and then then RESUMED WRESTLING.
Pro-wrestling is not a sport as the results are scripted, but you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about if you think pro wrestling doesn't require a hell of a lot of athleticism. Aside from the vastly more grueling schedule (name a sport where you're on the road for 270+ days out of the year), you're expected to work through injuries that would sideline you in a second in the NBA or the NFL. Pulled hamstring? Work through it. Herniated disk in your back? Go out there and drop the title in a match before taking time off.
Kurt Angle - who headlined Wrestlemania knowing he was going in for neck surgery immediately afterword - pulled his groin, tore his abdominal muscle and blew his hamstring in his last night for the company. And he still finished the match.
If you don't like pro-wrestling, it's a free country. I haven't watched it in years. But if you don't think pro-wrestlers are athletes, go tell that to a wrestlers face and see what the result is.
Here you are admitting that the press beats up on Bush
Laughing when he tries to open a locked door isn't "beating up on Bush" by any stretch of the imagination. You fail. Again.
Implies that the press choses the president, not the voters.
If you don't think Bush pulled out a win in 2000 without the help of the press, your head has been lodged longer than previously thought. The media was so busying lying about Gore's "fib factor" that they managed to completely ignore the fact that Bush took credit for passing legislation in Texas that he actually vetoed while governor. The same press that was so focused on Obama's "lack of experience" last year never mentioned the fact that Gore had 30 years public service to Bush's five years as governor of Texas - the 5th most powerful politician in the state. The same press that spent years obsessing over Whitewater ignored Harken Energy.
you can't say "He stuck his cock in her mouth" without saying "He stuck his cock in her". That to me constitutes sex.
Then that's too fucking bad for you. Cock in mouth did not meet the court's definition of "sexual relations". Nor did cigar in vagina equal "sexual relations", because there was no "direct contact" involved. Deal. With. It.
Just because I can play devils advocate and because I happen to disagree with you on an issues doesn't make me partisan, or a hack, or a revisionist, whine whine whine blah blah blah
Stop being a hack and you'll stop being treated like a hack. Go ahead and mourn the days when conservative BS would be treated as serious critical thought, but those days are gone.
you admit that the press took joy in beating on Bush.
[Citation needed]
I never said he didn't do any of the things that they said he did, just that they enjoyed beating on him.
Which is the revisionist bullshit in question. If the press "enjoyed beating" on Bush, he never would have been elected in the first place, much less re-elected.
Feel free to think what you want about the war, but He couldn't have gotten us into the war, or funded it without the help of congressional dems and republicans.
Oh, many Dems deserve a lot of blame for handing Bush a loaded gun. But it was Bush's decision to fire it, and Bush's decision to lie us into war in the first place.
Speaking of lying, it was David Gregory, new host of Meet the Press, that said:
No, Mr. Hack, that's exactly the role of the 4th estate.
Hell, Hilary voted for the war
Yes, she did. And it's the reason why she's not president right now instead of Obama.
Bill Clinton took a lot of respect away from the office by lying under oath.
What a surprise, you're 100% wrong. In fact, under the courts definition, he would have been lying if he had said he'd had "sexual relations" with Monica, as he didn't stick his cock in her.
The impeachment of Bill Clinton didn't happen because he "lied under oath", it happened because Republicans wanted to impeach him. When they couldn't nail him for fraud (Whitewater), murder (Vince Foster), or even a parking ticket, they settled on a manufactured perjury charge. Real justice would have been sending Starr and the Republicans in Congress to jail for malicious prosecution.
And just to prove how full of shit the GOP is on the issue of perjury, you had the same people arguing for Clinton's removal from office arguing for a pardon for Scooter Libby's perjury conviction. Hell, Fred Thompson, who voted to convict in the Senate, gave a speech where he passionately called for the rule of law, and passionately called for a pardon for Scooter Libby.
I would have preferred the later
What a surprise.
Get off of your sanctimonious high horse before you fall off and hurt yourself.
Blow your hypocritical double standards right out your ass, you pathetic partisan hack.
Nevermind that, better get to work on hiding your guns, flags and daughters. :)
I never said he didn't give them a lot to work with, but I do believe that they took a certain amount of joy in beating on Bush.
Only in a "aww, isn't he so funny when he's clumsy" way, not a "wtf is this incompetent warmonger doing" way.
Please, do us all a favor. Take a valium before posting on Slashdot. We should all be able to have conversations without resorting to name calling. (I know, I know... "are you new here?")
You can have your comity when you either stop spreading revisionist BS, or find a way to go back in time and prevent 4,000+ needless deaths troop deaths in Iraq and put $4 trillion back into our treasury.
I don't believe that everyone in the press was beating up on Bush b/c they are partisan, although I do believe a lot of them are. For example, Helen Thomas admitted in an interview [2:40-3:25] that she was not only a liberal, but that she believes that all reporters have not choice to be anything other than liberal because of what they see, and the access that they have to the "Truth".
Reality does have a well known liberal bias. And I'll see your Helen Thomas and raise you David Broder, "dean" of the beltway press:
So Clinton got a blowjob and he trashed the place. Bush tortures people, lies us into a war and taps our phones without warrants, and those are just "policy disputes".
Is that so, Mr. Pot? Give us a call when you find your way out of the wilderness and back to the reality-based community.
I refuse to follow the line of "logic" that assumes that voting for a bill automatically means full support for every individual piece of that bill.
Then that's too god damned bad for you. The reality was, all of our spying needs were already met under existing law. And the Protect America Act provisions that gave Bush everything he wanted (minus immunity) ran through the end of his term. There was ZERO need for new legislation. The whole point of this bill was telecom immunity.
And you can argue till your blue in the face, but that doesn't change the other fact in the matter: Obama pledged to support a filibuster of any bill with immunity in it. Obama broke that promise.