You are correct about everything except the most important part. I'm not sure your wrong, but I question it. That is that it's typical to have multiple applications attached to the same db. I would wager that the vast majority of databases in use today are used by websites that have a single major "application" connecting to them.
Your funny. I can play word games too. How's this?
When I want to put tracks on my ipod I plug it in and click update (it opens itunes for you). To do the same on an Ipod I have to open 'my computer', click some folder, click some other folder, click some other folder, click the band name folder, drag some songs, click up, click some band name folder, drag some songs, click up,...
oh wait, people that don't use computers often have a very hard time navigating a filesystem and finding the files they are looking for.
"aesthetics, fast response time, direct and instant user feedback, program models which correspond to the user model"
All of those can be a result of simplicity. Simplicity and ease of use have a lot of overlap so I don't think people are confused. Can you honestly say that the ipod isn't simpler from a users perspective than most other mp3 players?
how far back into the past are you going? I grew up with the first nintendo and everyone I know had one. Tecmo bowl was huge back then. Even going back to the atari, every kid I knew had one. Jocks included.
"The jocks didn't game. The preps didn't game. The teachers didn't game. The fucking pundits didn't game."
wtf are you talking about? I don't know any pundits, but the other three certainly do game. Why do you think there is a new version of each sports game every year? BECAUSE THEY SELL TO THE JOCKS and everyone else.
"Seriously though, the author completely ignores the vast geographic differences between the US and other industrialized country when categorizing the US as falling behind in broadband acceptance."
And you completely ignore the fact that L.A. and NY are also way behind these other countries but have similar population densities.
putting application logic in your database is a bad idea in most cases, imho. For example, putting application logic (I think you meant validations) in ruby makes it far more powerfull, much easier to test, and it fits in with our normal workflow much better (version control, etc). I don't see a reason for putting application logic in your database unless your using that database for multiple applications in multiple languages. That hasn't been the case for most projects I've worked on.
p.s. - I do web coding and the DB is always the bottleneck. It's much easier to scale logic that is in the application vs the DB because it's trivially easy to add new web/app servers. It's not easy to add extra database servers.
he made two seperate complaints and the second one, which I quoted, was seperate.
"he is noting that the new features of iTunes (the games) won't work on his older iPod."
the games are NOT a feature of iTunes.
Your simply arguing to argue at this point and your forced to make up things to do it. Either that or you've never used an ipod and itunes and have no idea what your talking about. If that's the case you simply shouldn't comment.
omg, your either the worst troll or really dumb and lazy. Did you actually read what he wrote before you posted that? Did you read my original post because I even quoted him saying what I said he said. Here it is again for you. Please learn to read and don't waste anymore of my time.
"I can also presume that my 4th Gen iPod Colour will not be able to play the new games. How I love thy, apple...."
he didn't buy it no matter how you try to spin it. Even if he did i'll bet the license says they can do what they did, but that isn't the point. He bought an mp3 player that can still play mp3's just as it could when he bought it.
But you are still missing the main point. My original point, and the only one I have towards the OP is that his complaint about the new features on the IPOD make no sense. itunes has nothing to do with the point I was making to the OP.
at least be honest. He did not buy iTunes 5. Your core premise is false.
However, my point wasn't about itunes, it was about his ipod and his complaint that they released a new ipod. Your trying to change the subject as well:/
the op got the product he bought. he knew what he was getting when he bought it. If the additional bell and whistle isn't that compelling he can stay with his current ipod that works exactly as it did when he decided to buy it. What part of that eludes you?
"I can also presume that my 4th Gen iPod Colour will not be able to play the new games. How I love thy, apple...."
Let me see if I understand this. You bought a product that told you exactly what it did. Later, a new product comes out that does something different and your complaining because....?
I've played a druid more than any class, but i seem to play my lock more these days. I've had a druid since the old days and it's much much better now. All druids get innervate as a spell and it was replaced in the talent tree with an instant heal type thing. feral is much more fun these days.
i agree with you about the raids vs the 5 mans. I love 5 mans, 10 mans, and even the 20 mans, but i hate the 40 man raids. I personally love PVP and it's much better now with the BG queues. I haven't tried the world pvp enough to say much about it, but I actually like attacking towns:)
"There was no way I could ever hit top of the ladder in PVP so there was very little point in doing it. I wouldn't be able to get the nice gear."
I'll never hit the top of the ladder either, but the point for me isn't to hit the top of the ladder, It's to have fun! I have fun doing pvp. It's weird actually. When i get into the mode where i'm thinking "i gotta get xxx gear" then wow stops being fun. When I just play without caring about gear or goals then it's fun again. I think that's why wow works so well for me. I personally love starting new characters and going thru all the leveling and 5 mans with completely different play styles. And I love pvp.
"I wasn't into high end raiding and PVP was time consuming."
i.e. you weren't into wow. That's fine, but wow is raiding and pvp. If you don't like those then you don't like wow. I'm a bit so so with raiding, but I love pvp especially world pvp.
two things
1. 18 months isn't very long for a production server
2. the new server version of ubuntu is just that; NEW. I can't put a production server on it because there is still very little info and people on it and it's yet to be seen if they will continue supporting it for years. By produciton i mean a very serious and high traffic website. I do run ubuntu server for local things like our subversion server and some of my personal servers. I really hope that it does stick around and gain popularity because I love ubuntu. As for now I'm still going with debian stable for very important servers and ubuntu for the other stuff.
"Yeah. In the server space, there really isn't much difference between Ubuntu and Debian."
Yes there is. I have to upgrade my ubuntu to a new release much more often than I do with debian. This can be a good or bad thing depending on ones perspective.
Wrong, Since this is/., and I'm assuming most of us work in the it field, there are other reasons to upgrade. I'm a software developer. Specifically I do ruby on rails web apps these days. A ton of ram and fast cpu make my work go much faster. I didn't think this was the case for a long time, but now that I do real testing (unit, integration, etc) the difference is huge. I recently bought a macbook pro (had a g3 ibook) and my tests are atleast 4 times faster now. i.e. i don't sit here waiting for them to finish, i get extra work done.
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You are correct about everything except the most important part. I'm not sure your wrong, but I question it. That is that it's typical to have multiple applications attached to the same db. I would wager that the vast majority of databases in use today are used by websites that have a single major "application" connecting to them.
this is not true unless by minority you mean something like 49%. Well, that may be true, but it's a very significant number.
Your funny. I can play word games too. How's this?
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When I want to put tracks on my ipod I plug it in and click update (it opens itunes for you). To do the same on an Ipod I have to open 'my computer', click some folder, click some other folder, click some other folder, click the band name folder, drag some songs, click up, click some band name folder, drag some songs, click up,
oh wait, people that don't use computers often have a very hard time navigating a filesystem and finding the files they are looking for.
"aesthetics, fast response time, direct and instant user feedback, program models which correspond to the user model"
All of those can be a result of simplicity. Simplicity and ease of use have a lot of overlap so I don't think people are confused. Can you honestly say that the ipod isn't simpler from a users perspective than most other mp3 players?
and some people would rather spend a couple bucks than trying to find an old cd that they haven't used in years.
the idea that anytime something bad happens someone should be fired is beyond stupid
how far back into the past are you going? I grew up with the first nintendo and everyone I know had one. Tecmo bowl was huge back then. Even going back to the atari, every kid I knew had one. Jocks included.
"The jocks didn't game. The preps didn't game. The teachers didn't game. The fucking pundits didn't game."
wtf are you talking about? I don't know any pundits, but the other three certainly do game. Why do you think there is a new version of each sports game every year? BECAUSE THEY SELL TO THE JOCKS and everyone else.
"Seriously though, the author completely ignores the vast geographic differences between the US and other industrialized country when categorizing the US as falling behind in broadband acceptance."
And you completely ignore the fact that L.A. and NY are also way behind these other countries but have similar population densities.
it deliberately calls people back who hang up. Seems like deliberate engineering to me.
putting application logic in your database is a bad idea in most cases, imho. For example, putting application logic (I think you meant validations) in ruby makes it far more powerfull, much easier to test, and it fits in with our normal workflow much better (version control, etc). I don't see a reason for putting application logic in your database unless your using that database for multiple applications in multiple languages. That hasn't been the case for most projects I've worked on.
p.s. - I do web coding and the DB is always the bottleneck. It's much easier to scale logic that is in the application vs the DB because it's trivially easy to add new web/app servers. It's not easy to add extra database servers.
he made two seperate complaints and the second one, which I quoted, was seperate.
"he is noting that the new features of iTunes (the games) won't work on his older iPod."
the games are NOT a feature of iTunes.
Your simply arguing to argue at this point and your forced to make up things to do it. Either that or you've never used an ipod and itunes and have no idea what your talking about. If that's the case you simply shouldn't comment.
omg, your either the worst troll or really dumb and lazy. Did you actually read what he wrote before you posted that? Did you read my original post because I even quoted him saying what I said he said. Here it is again for you. Please learn to read and don't waste anymore of my time.
"I can also presume that my 4th Gen iPod Colour will not be able to play the new games. How I love thy, apple...."
he didn't buy it no matter how you try to spin it. Even if he did i'll bet the license says they can do what they did, but that isn't the point. He bought an mp3 player that can still play mp3's just as it could when he bought it.
But you are still missing the main point. My original point, and the only one I have towards the OP is that his complaint about the new features on the IPOD make no sense. itunes has nothing to do with the point I was making to the OP.
at least be honest. He did not buy iTunes 5. Your core premise is false.
:/
However, my point wasn't about itunes, it was about his ipod and his complaint that they released a new ipod. Your trying to change the subject as well
the op got the product he bought. he knew what he was getting when he bought it. If the additional bell and whistle isn't that compelling he can stay with his current ipod that works exactly as it did when he decided to buy it. What part of that eludes you?
"I can also presume that my 4th Gen iPod Colour will not be able to play the new games. How I love thy, apple...."
....?
Let me see if I understand this. You bought a product that told you exactly what it did. Later, a new product comes out that does something different and your complaining because
I've played a druid more than any class, but i seem to play my lock more these days. I've had a druid since the old days and it's much much better now. All druids get innervate as a spell and it was replaced in the talent tree with an instant heal type thing. feral is much more fun these days.
i agree with you about the raids vs the 5 mans. I love 5 mans, 10 mans, and even the 20 mans, but i hate the 40 man raids. I personally love PVP and it's much better now with the BG queues. I haven't tried the world pvp enough to say much about it, but I actually like attacking towns :)
"There was no way I could ever hit top of the ladder in PVP so there was very little point in doing it. I wouldn't be able to get the nice gear."
I'll never hit the top of the ladder either, but the point for me isn't to hit the top of the ladder, It's to have fun! I have fun doing pvp. It's weird actually. When i get into the mode where i'm thinking "i gotta get xxx gear" then wow stops being fun. When I just play without caring about gear or goals then it's fun again. I think that's why wow works so well for me. I personally love starting new characters and going thru all the leveling and 5 mans with completely different play styles. And I love pvp.
"I wasn't into high end raiding and PVP was time consuming."
i.e. you weren't into wow. That's fine, but wow is raiding and pvp. If you don't like those then you don't like wow. I'm a bit so so with raiding, but I love pvp especially world pvp.
two things 1. 18 months isn't very long for a production server 2. the new server version of ubuntu is just that; NEW. I can't put a production server on it because there is still very little info and people on it and it's yet to be seen if they will continue supporting it for years. By produciton i mean a very serious and high traffic website. I do run ubuntu server for local things like our subversion server and some of my personal servers. I really hope that it does stick around and gain popularity because I love ubuntu. As for now I'm still going with debian stable for very important servers and ubuntu for the other stuff.
"Yeah. In the server space, there really isn't much difference between Ubuntu and Debian." Yes there is. I have to upgrade my ubuntu to a new release much more often than I do with debian. This can be a good or bad thing depending on ones perspective.
you obviously don't know how long it takes to run a real set of tests.
Wrong, Since this is /., and I'm assuming most of us work in the it field, there are other reasons to upgrade. I'm a software developer. Specifically I do ruby on rails web apps these days. A ton of ram and fast cpu make my work go much faster. I didn't think this was the case for a long time, but now that I do real testing (unit, integration, etc) the difference is huge. I recently bought a macbook pro (had a g3 ibook) and my tests are atleast 4 times faster now. i.e. i don't sit here waiting for them to finish, i get extra work done.
nope, wrong site :)
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it was half-empty.org and it's no longer around. We had a very active but small community which mostly came from a front page post on