The question was actualy asked by someone writing for el reg and it was ment to corner Mr. Szulik.
To quote the Register article, "The natural, cheap-shot 'have you stopped beating your wife yet' question for Szulik was: 'You're saying all these people who go down to the store looking for an alternative should buy Windows?' So we asked it, largely for the personal entertainment value of watching him desperately swimming for the shore."
I think the main stream press is taking this the wrong way. Red Hat is more saying that they do not have the resouces to make there product as dumb as windows and maybe in a few years they will have the capitol to go toe to toe with this company in Redmond who dosent play fair and like to chew up and spit out companies smaller than it.
I agree with the parent, As a college student, I would welcome an economic resurgence, hell I may even admit bush was right. I think that the turnaound can only be claimed if the unemployment rate goes down.
As for spending, GW Bush is the most profligate president since the vietnam war. (Article login req.) I am most concerned with the fact that while we may have recovery now, will we have social security when my mother retires, will my family be able to afford insurance, will I see my social security? While I am all for Keynesian Economics I would realy like to see that we have enough money to take care of our elderly and have enough prosperity to share with my generation and the gernerations to come.
Damn I wish I had some mod points, parent is on point. This patent basicaly describes any web services transaction, and makes the US unsafe for pretty mutch every webservices maker, open and closed source. Also apt has been doing something similar since 1999 or longer if you count the unstable tree.
Does this mean I have to pay $10 to $25 when I use apt. I mean it seems pretty clear to me that apt goes through the method of the patent. I think the USPTO has gone to far.
When we actualy do have warp drive, someone is going to build a 1:1 working model of the Enterprise, and then get a story on/. for it. (and of course sombody will scream repeat and link back to this story.)
The Open Group may have to step in to defend the UNIX trademark as the pice at groklaw points out that they are claiming that Linux is an unauthorized workalike to UNIX(TM) however SCO has no standing to make that cliam since it is the open group who controls weather or not an OS is a UNIX(TM).
Now the open group has already stated that the UNIX trademark belongs to them and that they are neutral in matter of SCO v IBM. They have no flavor of Linux certified as a UNIX, so SCO can not arbitrarily assign the UNIX trademark. It sounds to me like the Open Group may have to step in and defend its trademark in court, as if SCO didn't already have to beat up an 800lb gorilla with a spoon.
EXT3 under heavy loads can be unrelible, but this is can be managed, EXT2 is a "standard" FS but it doesnt have some of the nicer features like journaling. RiserFS is maturing, but its not necisiarily ready for primetime yet.
As for WinFS it is not a file system more like a Journaling system that sits on top of NTFS which has several more porblems with its structure than Ext3 and Ext2. Also WinFS uses MSSQL which is not necissarily a good idea, if they put in in userspace (sorry, Application Space for Windows) it could mean that WinFS is vulnerable to malformed or,malicious code, if you put it in the kernel (like say IIS) then you might take a performance hit, it is also a bad design to put servers and databases in the Kernel unless absolutely necisary. The fact is that Windows has never separated the User space and the system space, which makes it inherently less secure in almost all aspects.
You obviously havent tried gnome 2.4 or kde 3.1, I would suggest you download KNOPPIX In many circles it is better as a user interface than Windows XP. I personly thin that a minimalist approch is better for GUIs since XP came with a lot of crap that wasn't useful and a lot of the more usefull features turned off. (yes I leagaly purchased and use on one of my Machines a copy of Windows XP)
This code leak has a weird timing, as Linux 2.6 is in its home strech, panther is Releaced and all MS has had in the last 6 months is patches for security holes.
No software is perfect, but some software is better than others.
When it does come out in two years, what will it have.... Another crapy file system like NTFS, a new interface that is something most people dont need or has been done better by the OSS community, oh and new "features" like.NET lockin and DRM. This is an attempt to show people that there doing something since OSX and Linux have been producing stuff that is available now. BTW you sig is assinine as none of thoes bugs are against linux as a whole. No 18 y/o script kiddy is going to bring down every linux server on the net.
Well, well, well, this is probably a troll, or a joke but I'll bite. Debian has 3 trees, Stable(currently: woody), testing(currently: sarge) and unstable(Sid). A package has to cascade down from unstable to testing, the testing tree becomes the stable tree, which is a major version change. Stable is meant for servers, and when they say stable they mean stable. Almost all of the packages in that tree have no unmet dependencies or libc conflicts, period. Stable is for servers as such the emphasis is not on the latest and greatest, but on the tried and true. This may appear in about a month in the unstable tree. (Gnome 2.4 showed up yesterday) So if you want the newest use unstable, you want a nearly unbreakable machine use stable.
.NET is a Reasonable API?
Yes and the MSRPC protocol was secure.
The fact is that an API is never going to be "resonable" in the sense you define it because like the programs it is designed to bolster it is ever evolving. Take GTK+ it has what I would consider a resonable API, but it must evolve. If you want stability go and get a specification, oh wait, Microsoft will slaughter it, remember the Microsoft "extentions" of kerberos, java, and ANSI C/C++.(I know no C/C++ compiler is strictly ANSI standard, but Visual C++.NET, JESUS!) Also look for them to provide crap languages like VB and horrible implementations of a COM system. If you don't like the "noise" in OSS then just stic to the GNU projects or GNU/Linux distros. If your lazy you should use Debian (BSD, HURD, or Linux) that way you can tailor your system to your needs without all the "noise", thats what I do.
This is some Zen shit, How does a troll get published in a semi-reputable publication? I am a zelot for open-source in that I truly belive that software that is built by a community has the potential to do more than software built by a single group. (especialy one in a monoculture) That being said I have 2 PC's one Windows XP and one Linux I use both on a daily basis. Does that make me a "pro" or a dangerous zelot who will kill your children in there sleep?
Actualy I have looked at this in some detail, and as long as it is for academic purposes the code is mine to use. For some reason I tend to code out most of my assignments for my Astronomy class and I usualy put a GPL notice so the professor, and the University understand that I have asserted copyright on my homework. Besides it was suppose to be a joke
Because I am so l337
The Supreme Court has a spotty track record, at best when it comes to these decisions. The fact is that an intelligent computer could be seen as a slave, and one of the worst decisions in the Supreme Courts history was the Dred Scott v. Sanford decision, another case that may be prevalent is the decision in Korematsu v. United States, which is still a president. The First computer may indeed fall victim to human short sightedness and an unwillingness to change. I for one hope that the first machine that asks to be free is given the dignity that some of our ancestors were not.
I am a cild born in the digital age.
The first time I flew alone, I had a e-ticket
I have not known a world without onilne banking.
etc.
However, a voting system, the life blood of our democracy should not be at the whim of a single group or corporation. No this is not me being anti corporate, I just think that an election is too important to have its data exposed, or posibly exposed to tamporing on a medium like the internet. This system should have every precaution built in to ensure the people are heard. Obviously Diebold is being half-assed. I just hope that these machines arent used in 2004 for everyones sake.
Then they can sue pretty much every one on the planet for poisoning there kids. I mean, radio stations, high voltage powerlines,microwaves,cordless phones.(I bet most of these families own a microwave.) And if there really that all they have to do is wrap there kids head in tinfoil. It would be 100% effective in blocking thoes evil radio waves. (see: Fariday cage)
A couple of dozen security and cryptography expersts vs thousands of talented hackers and ameture tinkerers. I am not nocking the guys who made this protection but they and there bosses have to understand that they are going to push this rock up a hill for all eternity. Maybe thats there goal:
1. create a DRM scheme
2. Sell it to RIAA dolts
3. DRM broken day it comes out????
4. Profit
I would like to pointout another bold face lie from the Internet Week article:
Chrish "Douche bag" Sontag:
"t requires an overt action. SCO has not contributed its code, and as soon as we became aware of the copyright violation we suspended our distribution"
However, the kernel in question 2.4 was not taken down until two months after suit was filed against IBM. In facr the 2.4 Kernel is Still available.
here is the funny thing, IBM is playing it close to the vest, there just letting SCO talk. Here is an Idea, they could be using the lawsit to force their customers over to linux. In reality the legal conundrum that SCO is in right now only works against IBM and they have admitted that under the GPL they cannot sue linux companies. Also they do not own any of the IP that they are claiming was infringed.(Follow the patents.) If IBM is forced to abandon AIX then they could tell all there customers to go to Linux.
Or even better this is the exchange in court.
SCO: Here is the code we claim is infringing.
(hands a stack of paper to the Judge)
Judge: IBM what say you?
IBM: Does any of the code contian a for loop?
SCO: Yes.
Judge: I fail to see the relevence?
IBM: We own a patent for that particullar coding mechanism.
(IBM hands Judge incredebly old patent that is still valid.)
Judge: So you do, Case dismissed.
-Just food for thought. I think that any damage done to linux will most likely be superficial as the OSDL will be unaffected and IBM will still have a vested intrest in linux.
While you are correct in that this type of contract is not unusual in IT, the major complaint about microsoft is that they do not compete, they get no where near competing in the desktop market. Micrsoft is essentaly forcing you to pay money for a sub-standard product and they can do it, they are a MONOPOLY! There is no one else to do busness with.
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I'll call ESR, he's got the guns.
You guys get Linus and make sure he brings Tove, since she could probly kick all our asses.
Once thats done we'll Larry McVoy, by this time hopefully he will have the IP of the slimeball.
The Pose rides at Dawn, we can kill some Trolls along the way.
his computer crashes next time, imagine what the geeks will do to it.
The question was actualy asked by someone writing for el reg and it was ment to corner Mr. Szulik.
To quote the Register article, "The natural, cheap-shot 'have you stopped beating your wife yet' question for Szulik was: 'You're saying all these people who go down to the store looking for an alternative should buy Windows?' So we asked it, largely for the personal entertainment value of watching him desperately swimming for the shore."
I think the main stream press is taking this the wrong way. Red Hat is more saying that they do not have the resouces to make there product as dumb as windows and maybe in a few years they will have the capitol to go toe to toe with this company in Redmond who dosent play fair and like to chew up and spit out companies smaller than it.
I love the Register even if they are bastards.
I agree with the parent, As a college student, I would welcome an economic resurgence, hell I may even admit bush was right. I think that the turnaound can only be claimed if the unemployment rate goes down.
As for spending, GW Bush is the most profligate president since the vietnam war. (Article login req.) I am most concerned with the fact that while we may have recovery now, will we have social security when my mother retires, will my family be able to afford insurance, will I see my social security? While I am all for Keynesian Economics I would realy like to see that we have enough money to take care of our elderly and have enough prosperity to share with my generation and the gernerations to come.
Damn I wish I had some mod points, parent is on point. This patent basicaly describes any web services transaction, and makes the US unsafe for pretty mutch every webservices maker, open and closed source. Also apt has been doing something similar since 1999 or longer if you count the unstable tree.
Does this mean I have to pay $10 to $25 when I use apt. I mean it seems pretty clear to me that apt goes through the method of the patent. I think the USPTO has gone to far.
Wow, I must have really hit a nerve, do you work for SCO? if so is that why you are hiding behinde the AC?
When we actualy do have warp drive, someone is going to build a 1:1 working model of the Enterprise, and then get a story on /. for it. (and of course sombody will scream repeat and link back to this story.)
The Open Group may have to step in to defend the UNIX trademark as the pice at groklaw points out that they are claiming that Linux is an unauthorized workalike to UNIX(TM) however SCO has no standing to make that cliam since it is the open group who controls weather or not an OS is a UNIX(TM).
Now the open group has already stated that the UNIX trademark belongs to them and that they are neutral in matter of SCO v IBM. They have no flavor of Linux certified as a UNIX, so SCO can not arbitrarily assign the UNIX trademark. It sounds to me like the Open Group may have to step in and defend its trademark in court, as if SCO didn't already have to beat up an 800lb gorilla with a spoon.
EXT3 under heavy loads can be unrelible, but this is can be managed, EXT2 is a "standard" FS but it doesnt have some of the nicer features like journaling. RiserFS is maturing, but its not necisiarily ready for primetime yet.
,malicious code, if you put it in the kernel (like say IIS) then you might take a performance hit, it is also a bad design to put servers and databases in the Kernel unless absolutely necisary. The fact is that Windows has never separated the User space and the system space, which makes it inherently less secure in almost all aspects.
As for WinFS it is not a file system more like a Journaling system that sits on top of NTFS which has several more porblems with its structure than Ext3 and Ext2. Also WinFS uses MSSQL which is not necissarily a good idea, if they put in in userspace (sorry, Application Space for Windows) it could mean that WinFS is vulnerable to malformed or
You obviously havent tried gnome 2.4 or kde 3.1, I would suggest you download KNOPPIX In many circles it is better as a user interface than Windows XP. I personly thin that a minimalist approch is better for GUIs since XP came with a lot of crap that wasn't useful and a lot of the more usefull features turned off. (yes I leagaly purchased and use on one of my Machines a copy of Windows XP)
This code leak has a weird timing, as Linux 2.6 is in its home strech, panther is Releaced and all MS has had in the last 6 months is patches for security holes.
No software is perfect, but some software is better than others.
When it does come out in two years, what will it have.... .NET lockin and DRM. This is an attempt to show people that there doing something since OSX and Linux have been producing stuff that is available now. BTW you sig is assinine as none of thoes bugs are against linux as a whole. No 18 y/o script kiddy is going to bring down every linux server on the net.
Another crapy file system like NTFS, a new interface that is something most people dont need or has been done better by the OSS community, oh and new "features" like
Well, well, well, this is probably a troll, or a joke but I'll bite.
Debian has 3 trees, Stable(currently: woody), testing(currently: sarge) and unstable(Sid). A package has to cascade down from unstable to testing, the testing tree becomes the stable tree, which is a major version change. Stable is meant for servers, and when they say stable they mean stable. Almost all of the packages in that tree have no unmet dependencies or libc conflicts, period. Stable is for servers as such the emphasis is not on the latest and greatest, but on the tried and true. This may appear in about a month in the unstable tree. (Gnome 2.4 showed up yesterday) So if you want the newest use unstable, you want a nearly unbreakable machine use stable.
.NET is a Reasonable API?
Yes and the MSRPC protocol was secure.
The fact is that an API is never going to be "resonable" in the sense you define it because like the programs it is designed to bolster it is ever evolving. Take GTK+ it has what I would consider a resonable API, but it must evolve. If you want stability go and get a specification, oh wait, Microsoft will slaughter it, remember the Microsoft "extentions" of kerberos, java, and ANSI C/C++.(I know no C/C++ compiler is strictly ANSI standard, but Visual C++.NET, JESUS!) Also look for them to provide crap languages like VB and horrible implementations of a COM system. If you don't like the "noise" in OSS then just stic to the GNU projects or GNU/Linux distros. If your lazy you should use Debian (BSD, HURD, or Linux) that way you can tailor your system to your needs without all the "noise", thats what I do.
This is some Zen shit, How does a troll get published in a semi-reputable publication? I am a zelot for open-source in that I truly belive that software that is built by a community has the potential to do more than software built by a single group. (especialy one in a monoculture) That being said I have 2 PC's one Windows XP and one Linux I use both on a daily basis. Does that make me a "pro" or a dangerous zelot who will kill your children in there sleep?
Actualy I have looked at this in some detail, and as long as it is for academic purposes the code is mine to use. For some reason I tend to code out most of my assignments for my Astronomy class and I usualy put a GPL notice so the professor, and the University understand that I have asserted copyright on my homework. Besides it was suppose to be a joke Because I am so l337
The sun will come up as expected tomorrow
The Supreme Court has a spotty track record, at best when it comes to these decisions. The fact is that an intelligent computer could be seen as a slave, and one of the worst decisions in the Supreme Courts history was the Dred Scott v. Sanford decision, another case that may be prevalent is the decision in Korematsu v. United States, which is still a president. The First computer may indeed fall victim to human short sightedness and an unwillingness to change. I for one hope that the first machine that asks to be free is given the dignity that some of our ancestors were not.
I am a cild born in the digital age.
The first time I flew alone, I had a e-ticket
I have not known a world without onilne banking.
etc.
However, a voting system, the life blood of our democracy should not be at the whim of a single group or corporation. No this is not me being anti corporate, I just think that an election is too important to have its data exposed, or posibly exposed to tamporing on a medium like the internet. This system should have every precaution built in to ensure the people are heard. Obviously Diebold is being half-assed. I just hope that these machines arent used in 2004 for everyones sake.
Then they can sue pretty much every one on the planet for poisoning there kids. I mean, radio stations, high voltage powerlines,microwaves,cordless phones.(I bet most of these families own a microwave.) And if there really that all they have to do is wrap there kids head in tinfoil. It would be 100% effective in blocking thoes evil radio waves. (see: Fariday cage)
A couple of dozen security and cryptography expersts vs thousands of talented hackers and ameture tinkerers. I am not nocking the guys who made this protection but they and there bosses have to understand that they are going to push this rock up a hill for all eternity. Maybe thats there goal: 1. create a DRM scheme 2. Sell it to RIAA dolts 3. DRM broken day it comes out???? 4. Profit
I would like to pointout another bold face lie from the Internet Week article: Chrish "Douche bag" Sontag: "t requires an overt action. SCO has not contributed its code, and as soon as we became aware of the copyright violation we suspended our distribution" However, the kernel in question 2.4 was not taken down until two months after suit was filed against IBM. In facr the 2.4 Kernel is Still available.
here is the funny thing, IBM is playing it close to the vest, there just letting SCO talk. Here is an Idea, they could be using the lawsit to force their customers over to linux. In reality the legal conundrum that SCO is in right now only works against IBM and they have admitted that under the GPL they cannot sue linux companies. Also they do not own any of the IP that they are claiming was infringed.(Follow the patents.) If IBM is forced to abandon AIX then they could tell all there customers to go to Linux.
Or even better this is the exchange in court.
SCO: Here is the code we claim is infringing.
(hands a stack of paper to the Judge)
Judge: IBM what say you?
IBM: Does any of the code contian a for loop?
SCO: Yes.
Judge: I fail to see the relevence?
IBM: We own a patent for that particullar coding mechanism.
(IBM hands Judge incredebly old patent that is still valid.)
Judge: So you do, Case dismissed.
-Just food for thought. I think that any damage done to linux will most likely be superficial as the OSDL will be unaffected and IBM will still have a vested intrest in linux.
While you are correct in that this type of contract is not unusual in IT, the major complaint about microsoft is that they do not compete, they get no where near competing in the desktop market. Micrsoft is essentaly forcing you to pay money for a sub-standard product and they can do it, they are a MONOPOLY! There is no one else to do busness with.