But you see.. thats called Communism Kids and thats EVIL... We cant have the goverment doing that... or wow.. theyd never get reelected and now what kind of politician would bother doing it if that was gonna happen...
wonderful how long standing social, and dare i class it as "racial' ( Homo Sapiens Americanus:P ) , predjudice against anything socialist or slightly communist despite its potential benifit, causes a backlash of mcarthyism.
Damn Mcarthyism... why couldnt you have a better name... stupid general
I hate america but for a nice neat little set of reasons, mostly consiting of being caught between my loathing of the society, culture (lack of, etc.), crime, goverment and my love of cheap tech junk access to specialist parts, and other things that only turn up over there cause you had em first and no one else at the time bough them (VAXen), and did i mention, cheap net access.. god i hate how you all bitch and moan about your net access when people live in wonderful civilised contries get ripped off by their ISPs WAY worse than your lousy service.
Theres 10Mbit cable in my street, The ISP cant be bothered making it work, so they charge me the same for 512Kbit/128Kbit adsl and they only give me 10 gig a month before speedcapping me down to 64Kbit, oh and did i mention, No peering, or local Mirrors for Open Source updating (emerge, RPM, Ports, nothing), theres a file mirror, but its hardly amazing, just some big common crap, Linux ISOs and the usual software demos.
But in general. Welll Most people need to hate someone, and america is a big fat target for them to hate, it does so many things that theres always something that they wont like they can hate it for. People cant like everyone. *shrug*
when theres 7 or 8 or even more little mirrors made up in a complicated array called an interferometer that are combined together to form a larger more powerful telescope. it gets quite complicated then.
I predict that with the increasing trend of global climate change ( note, not global warming which is a stupid idea that only works in theory ) the arctic will freeze solid!
Warm surface currents will be disrupted by increased higher lattitude heating and this will cause lower warm water circulation to the Arctic and during winter when no solar radiation is possible to provide other warming. The pole will be colder than ever.
In other news... MIT launched a course in advanced FUD studies for their buisness students
Id say hes not. And ill partialy agree, sometimes extremism can require couterbalancing extremism.
Terrorism itself is an ugly ugly thing that should not be used on anyone. Im not talking bout Al'qeda or whatever they are blowing up buildings and spreading hatered. Im taking bout the systematic use off surprise and 5th collumn tactics and psychologigal warfare against civilan targets in efforts to terrorise the enemy to achive your goals. THAT is something that should be outlawed, and unfortunatly cant be. But the next best thing is probably severly ass kicking whoever thinks its a good idea.
Im not for all this draconian privacy invasions stuff ( it utterly horrifies me how vile these things are getting ) but as for getting hit with a shock shotgun, well if it means the terrorist about to kill me doesnt kill me and im still left alive after the mess is cleaned up, i dont think id freaking well mind at all.
Or if they shifted to a democracy from thier current political enviroment. Theyd choke and corupt and become nothing under the current population problem, and massive rebuilding effort... and did i mention the population. How are you going to organise an election with half a billion people voting... the USA can barely manage a fair election with 250 million or so. (dont quote me on that, I dont live there:P )
thats wonderful But the rest of them no longer design those brillant multi modular high performace systems that literaly defined the alpha as a killer proccessor.
The wonderful Opteron Doesnt Run OpenVMS, or seem to be arriving in machines that have quad proccessors 12 gig of ram standard, fiberchannel backbones, and all the trimmings in one neat modular, hot swapable package, rolling off the assembly lines.
If someone does make opteron based hardware like that. Link me to it. I want to see it.
I dont get the whole "compeditive" thing with teams... im a fan of racing, and a lot of other individual sports. But most team sports mean nothing to me... Except perhaps rugby... Something about the "thud" noise they make when hitting eachother sounds nice;)
Im just waiting for them to Televise multi angle HLTV footage on a channel... but no... alas they would probably get attacked for "promoting violent behaviour" by a tidal wave of bible bashing child smothering luddites pulling the Video Games Cause Violence Monolith of doom.
Congratulations. Your TiVo is lying in bed for you to use as you please:P
Get over it.
Your utter adoration of your particular brand of item is totaly meaningless and utterly blind.
1st things... That sounds like it does an awful lot of complicated stuff for you. Wether its complicated for you to make it do that doesnt matter in the context of the parent post.
its not only sexism. its racism. and just about all the other big "ism"s out there that get the reverse treatment:P
Rediculous disproportion of male domestic violence claims. Well guess who are more likey to hit thier partner and statisticaly does so more. The wife is.
"hate crime" cruft and media circus stuff as well.
somehow i started writing this with a point but it vanished. Oh wait there isnt one. Its just another stupid thing about humans.
If the disabled guy cuts in line i cant complain cause hes disabled. well sod off cause i damn well should have the right to.
Looking at those i wonder... just what the hell does cybersouce DO with all that bloddy space... thats a HUGE damn office park...
Personaly id be happy with a western corner office in the Sun Microsystems Australia Ltd. 11th storey offices in Perth Western Australia. Damn thats a nice view for a Computer company office:)
If MSN Earth had pics of a hot tub i put in my backyard id be on the phone to a lawyer for invasion of privacy advice.
*thankful for having a house thats almost totaly blocked from view by large trees in a country not bothered with at all by MSN virtual earth below 25mile pictures*
Can i get martian, Lunar, and other interplanetary maps too... how about time indexed solar mapps. Sunspot reasearchers out there and various solar flare, sunspot, tin hat wearing peoples would love it.
Endless amounts of information Google. hurry up i want my damn maps now!
I want my d20 Golf Balls:P I found a nice solid bronze d20 recently. damn well dont have 80 bucks to blow on a dice heavy enough to cause a concussion though;)
The Question still doesnt seem answered (sorry if i have missed the answer, feel free to point me in the right direction) is exactly what the data IS. is it raw analouge recorded transmissions?. Or perhaps the actual probe data, Computer "monitoring" type data from the recording, multiple telemetry data sets, and a raw copy of the transsmisisons to boot?
This could be a lot more data than just what the probe sent back, and id be willing to bet that it is.
And if it is or contains an actual Analouge record of the transsmisions (a likely possibility given the age and nature of the medium) then its an entire stage more difficult.
id say $250 thousand isnt much when you think about how much tape their could be, and just how large an item it would be to transport safely to a facility capable of ensuring accurate reproduction of the tapes for reading the data and analysis of the tapes themselves to help work out exactly what it is. Standard data recovery/analysis techniques number numero uno. Make a Copy. Then work on that. Youve only got one original, Its priceless and all steps should be taken to ensure its handled as little as possible.
The tapes may not survive more than 2 or 3 reads. So they better get it right 1st time... $250K seems resonable for a data recovery project this size.
Anyone care to get a quote from a data recovery firm on 3miles or more of 9 track tape about 30 years old?
No joke. its true. lol Ive had 3 machines running overnight in my room. P4 1.6Ghz Retail HS/F combo, Sun Ultra 5, and a P2 448Mhz server with a 10K rpm scsi hard drive in the damn thing. too noisy to sleep in there with em all on at once. the enclosure around the p4 makes the bugger louder so that certainyl doesnt help.
Yeah. I feel saddend to say that the company policy for apple on unsold items isnt storage or warehousing for support customer needs. Its Scortched earth. They Crush them, brand new in boxes and they go into an industrial crusher.:(
the only glimmer of hope resides in IBM realy. They are pushing PPC based things everywhere. So it has some life out there:) Just not in Shiny Dual G5 PowerMacs:(
No you got my point spot on. the "old" table has the "important" information on it. In chemistry the things i needed most from my periodic table were atomic weights, electron valence & possible ionisation states for transiton metals im sure with more work this table will be able to show them. But on this one, It seems to be arranged more to draw the eye than provid RAPID access to this information. On an old table i got used to being able to look strait to the element or using whatever info i knew look to the right location and find the match (damn empiricle formulas with missing elements ! )
This would be good for primary school and mabey lower secondary school. But if im ever "forced" to use this... Im going to complain... LOUDLY. Life is about choise.
Same. I cant get Squat from this new fangled POS chart... in fact trying to understand it seems pointless given it has no obvious arrangement of anything other than that hrm gradienting of the elements weight to their distance from the center, and putting them in groups based on their elecron shells... wow... how utterly craptastic... i have freaking coloured periodic tables that do the job much better without taking away all my information like the isotopic ratios, atomic weights, etc
For a start Check ebay. Alpha is KING. You dont see 10 year old x86 machines selling for hundreds of dollars do you. Want to know why. Cause 10 year old X86 machines suck. For the price of 4 (absolutely striped to the core components) x86s you can get 1 alpha. That can take More CPUs, More Ram, More reliable hot swap frigging everything, Built with the kind of quality you see in an IBM model M keyboard (not a lexmark one:P ) And Your Alpha will happily run forever. The uptime records out there are held by a heritiage of machines that passes down through the alpha and sadly.. ends there. thers no next gen... hell they didnt need one... The alpha CPUs hp ships now were designed back round 2000 and have been sitting waiting for the manufacturing to catch up. ANd they beat the Iatanium even though theyve been on the shelf that long.
Its to much to just explain in a slashdot post.
The alpha is one of THE fundamental architectures that holds up the under time.
I morn its loss as do many others. Its important that this be kept alive even if just to stab at intel for shipping an inferior over priced POS to replace it purely because of 10 years of corporate wheeling and dealing utterly blind to the actualy day to day operation of 4 of the IT industries biggest companies.
Slashdot Mirror
Plenty have im sure ( i have )
:P ) , predjudice against anything socialist or slightly communist despite its potential benifit, causes a backlash of mcarthyism.
But you see.. thats called Communism Kids and thats EVIL... We cant have the goverment doing that... or wow.. theyd never get reelected and now what kind of politician would bother doing it if that was gonna happen...
wonderful how long standing social, and dare i class it as "racial' ( Homo Sapiens Americanus
Damn Mcarthyism... why couldnt you have a better name... stupid general
I hate america but for a nice neat little set of reasons, mostly consiting of being caught between my loathing of the society, culture (lack of, etc.), crime, goverment and my love of cheap tech junk access to specialist parts, and other things that only turn up over there cause you had em first and no one else at the time bough them (VAXen), and did i mention, cheap net access.. god i hate how you all bitch and moan about your net access when people live in wonderful civilised contries get ripped off by their ISPs WAY worse than your lousy service.
Theres 10Mbit cable in my street, The ISP cant be bothered making it work, so they charge me the same for 512Kbit/128Kbit adsl and they only give me 10 gig a month before speedcapping me down to 64Kbit, oh and did i mention, No peering, or local Mirrors for Open Source updating (emerge, RPM, Ports, nothing), theres a file mirror, but its hardly amazing, just some big common crap, Linux ISOs and the usual software demos.
But in general. Welll Most people need to hate someone, and america is a big fat target for them to hate, it does so many things that theres always something that they wont like they can hate it for. People cant like everyone. *shrug*
when theres 7 or 8 or even more little mirrors made up in a complicated array called an interferometer that are combined together to form a larger more powerful telescope. it gets quite complicated then.
I predict that with the increasing trend of global climate change ( note, not global warming which is a stupid idea that only works in theory ) the arctic will freeze solid!
Warm surface currents will be disrupted by increased higher lattitude heating and this will cause lower warm water circulation to the Arctic and during winter when no solar radiation is possible to provide other warming. The pole will be colder than ever.
In other news... MIT launched a course in advanced FUD studies for their buisness students
Id say hes not. And ill partialy agree, sometimes extremism can require couterbalancing extremism.
Terrorism itself is an ugly ugly thing that should not be used on anyone. Im not talking bout Al'qeda or whatever they are blowing up buildings and spreading hatered. Im taking bout the systematic use off surprise and 5th collumn tactics and psychologigal warfare against civilan targets in efforts to terrorise the enemy to achive your goals. THAT is something that should be outlawed, and unfortunatly cant be. But the next best thing is probably severly ass kicking whoever thinks its a good idea.
Im not for all this draconian privacy invasions stuff ( it utterly horrifies me how vile these things are getting ) but as for getting hit with a shock shotgun, well if it means the terrorist about to kill me doesnt kill me and im still left alive after the mess is cleaned up, i dont think id freaking well mind at all.
Does it run NetBSD?
Or if they shifted to a democracy from thier current political enviroment. Theyd choke and corupt and become nothing under the current population problem, and massive rebuilding effort... and did i mention the population. How are you going to organise an election with half a billion people voting... the USA can barely manage a fair election with 250 million or so. (dont quote me on that, I dont live there :P )
thats wonderful But the rest of them no longer design those brillant multi modular high performace systems that literaly defined the alpha as a killer proccessor.
The wonderful Opteron Doesnt Run OpenVMS, or seem to be arriving in machines that have quad proccessors 12 gig of ram standard, fiberchannel backbones, and all the trimmings in one neat modular, hot swapable package, rolling off the assembly lines.
If someone does make opteron based hardware like that. Link me to it. I want to see it.
Im planning on steadfastly ignoring PC right till i die.
Remove the warning lables, and bring back lawn darts.
Im going to file a discrimination lawsuit against a university some day for not having male only scholarships to match their female only ones.
Just cause your black/female/disabled doesnt make you any less of a person, so ive got every right to get pissed off and complain about what you do.
I reserver the right to swear and use four letter words in the place of common adjectives on a 1 in 4 basis.
Damn PC to hell
I dont get the whole "compeditive" thing with teams... im a fan of racing, and a lot of other individual sports. But most team sports mean nothing to me... Except perhaps rugby... Something about the "thud" noise they make when hitting eachother sounds nice ;)
Im just waiting for them to Televise multi angle HLTV footage on a channel... but no... alas they would probably get attacked for "promoting violent behaviour" by a tidal wave of bible bashing child smothering luddites pulling the Video Games Cause Violence Monolith of doom.
What your not watching undubed japanese anime with the subtitles?
Congratulations. Your TiVo is lying in bed for you to use as you please :P
Get over it.
Your utter adoration of your particular brand of item is totaly meaningless and utterly blind.
1st things... That sounds like it does an awful lot of complicated stuff for you. Wether its complicated for you to make it do that doesnt matter in the context of the parent post.
2nd thing... TiVo isnt the only thing out there.
its not only sexism. its racism. and just about all the other big "ism"s out there that get the reverse treatment :P
Rediculous disproportion of male domestic violence claims. Well guess who are more likey to hit thier partner and statisticaly does so more. The wife is.
"hate crime" cruft and media circus stuff as well.
somehow i started writing this with a point but it vanished. Oh wait there isnt one. Its just another stupid thing about humans.
If the disabled guy cuts in line i cant complain cause hes disabled. well sod off cause i damn well should have the right to.
Looking at those i wonder... just what the hell does cybersouce DO with all that bloddy space... thats a HUGE damn office park...
:)
Personaly id be happy with a western corner office in the Sun Microsystems Australia Ltd. 11th storey offices in Perth Western Australia. Damn thats a nice view for a Computer company office
If MSN Earth had pics of a hot tub i put in my backyard id be on the phone to a lawyer for invasion of privacy advice.
*thankful for having a house thats almost totaly blocked from view by large trees in a country not bothered with at all by MSN virtual earth below 25mile pictures*
That was probably just a pure coincidence. Or thanks to the efforts of the firefox devs to make ff more able to deal with IE based stupididty.
This is MS and IE were talking about... What FireFox?
IE... you mean That thing we replaced The Desktop, and file browsers with... Half our operating system... yes that thing... Right...
That and dont transition from photos taken at - 85 degrees to ones taken at 80 ... and mesh them with stattelite images on the same corner... *shudder*
Same. I want My Time Indexed Atlas!
Can i get martian, Lunar, and other interplanetary maps too... how about time indexed solar mapps. Sunspot reasearchers out there and various solar flare, sunspot, tin hat wearing peoples would love it.
Endless amounts of information Google. hurry up i want my damn maps now!
I want my d20 Golf Balls :P ;)
I found a nice solid bronze d20 recently. damn well dont have 80 bucks to blow on a dice heavy enough to cause a concussion though
The Question still doesnt seem answered (sorry if i have missed the answer, feel free to point me in the right direction) is exactly what the data IS. is it raw analouge recorded transmissions?. Or perhaps the actual probe data, Computer "monitoring" type data from the recording, multiple telemetry data sets, and a raw copy of the transsmisisons to boot?
This could be a lot more data than just what the probe sent back, and id be willing to bet that it is.
And if it is or contains an actual Analouge record of the transsmisions (a likely possibility given the age and nature of the medium) then its an entire stage more difficult.
id say $250 thousand isnt much when you think about how much tape their could be, and just how large an item it would be to transport safely to a facility capable of ensuring accurate reproduction of the tapes for reading the data and analysis of the tapes themselves to help work out exactly what it is. Standard data recovery/analysis techniques number numero uno. Make a Copy. Then work on that. Youve only got one original, Its priceless and all steps should be taken to ensure its handled as little as possible.
The tapes may not survive more than 2 or 3 reads. So they better get it right 1st time... $250K seems resonable for a data recovery project this size.
Anyone care to get a quote from a data recovery firm on 3miles or more of 9 track tape about 30 years old?
No joke. its true. lol
Ive had 3 machines running overnight in my room. P4 1.6Ghz Retail HS/F combo, Sun Ultra 5, and a P2 448Mhz server with a 10K rpm scsi hard drive in the damn thing. too noisy to sleep in there with em all on at once. the enclosure around the p4 makes the bugger louder so that certainyl doesnt help.
Yeah. I feel saddend to say that the company policy for apple on unsold items isnt storage or warehousing for support customer needs. Its Scortched earth. They Crush them, brand new in boxes and they go into an industrial crusher. :(
:) Just not in Shiny Dual G5 PowerMacs :(
the only glimmer of hope resides in IBM realy. They are pushing PPC based things everywhere. So it has some life out there
No you got my point spot on. the "old" table has the "important" information on it. In chemistry the things i needed most from my periodic table were atomic weights, electron valence & possible ionisation states for transiton metals im sure with more work this table will be able to show them. But on this one, It seems to be arranged more to draw the eye than provid RAPID access to this information. On an old table i got used to being able to look strait to the element or using whatever info i knew look to the right location and find the match (damn empiricle formulas with missing elements ! )
This would be good for primary school and mabey lower secondary school. But if im ever "forced" to use this... Im going to complain... LOUDLY. Life is about choise.
Same. I cant get Squat from this new fangled POS chart... in fact trying to understand it seems pointless given it has no obvious arrangement of anything other than that hrm gradienting of the elements weight to their distance from the center, and putting them in groups based on their elecron shells... wow ... how utterly craptastic... i have freaking coloured periodic tables that do the job much better without taking away all my information like the isotopic ratios, atomic weights, etc
Well Yes and No.
:P ) And Your Alpha will happily run forever. The uptime records out there are held by a heritiage of machines that passes down through the alpha and sadly.. ends there. thers no next gen... hell they didnt need one... The alpha CPUs hp ships now were designed back round 2000 and have been sitting waiting for the manufacturing to catch up. ANd they beat the Iatanium even though theyve been on the shelf that long.
For a start Check ebay. Alpha is KING. You dont see 10 year old x86 machines selling for hundreds of dollars do you. Want to know why. Cause 10 year old X86 machines suck. For the price of 4 (absolutely striped to the core components) x86s you can get 1 alpha. That can take More CPUs, More Ram, More reliable hot swap frigging everything, Built with the kind of quality you see in an IBM model M keyboard (not a lexmark one
Its to much to just explain in a slashdot post.
The alpha is one of THE fundamental architectures that holds up the under time.
I morn its loss as do many others. Its important that this be kept alive even if just to stab at intel for shipping an inferior over priced POS to replace it purely because of 10 years of corporate wheeling and dealing utterly blind to the actualy day to day operation of 4 of the IT industries biggest companies.