"I don't know if this is true, but it has been said that HP would not be profitable if the company could not sell Inkjet printer ink for $800 per gallon."
It's not true. At all. I'd quit commenting on this subject before you demonstrate exactly how little you know about HP.
How can they say this with a straight face?
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Wasn't it Wired that called the Internet bubble the Long Boom. Supposed to last 25 years?
No wait! They meant THIS boom will last 25 years.
Let's see. Michael Dell's statement was a public one during the internet and PC industry boom that made him look like a bigger ass than usual. Steve Jobs statement was NOT public, but made in private to an employee that he did not want to see leave Apple 25 YEARS ago when both Apple and Microsoft were fledgling endeavors and the PC industry was embryonic.
It is true that if you look ONLY at Mac unit shipments that Apple is down about one half of 1% compared to FY2000, or 24,000 units less. Some might speculate that this is in anticipation of the switch to Intel-based Macs. They still shipped over 4.53 million Macs both years. Plus you choose to ignore the 22,497,000 iPods they shipped this year. So, if you're suggesting that unit shipments indicate success then they have at least 27,031,000 (not counting software) or ~6 times the unit shipments of FY2000.
Of course, units shipments are only half the equation. Revenues are at least as important. And profit is the ultimate goal. Lets see what happened here: Apple posted revenue (Q405) of $3.68 billion and a net quarterly profit of $430 million, or $.50 per diluted share. These results compare to revenue of $2.35 billion and a net profit of $106 million, or $.13 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 28.1 percent, up from 27.0 percent in the year-ago quarter.
Compare this to Q400: For the quarter, the Company posted a net profit of $170 million, or $.47 per diluted share. These results compare to a net profit of $111 million, or $.31 per diluted share, achieved in the year ago quarter. Revenues for the quarter were $1.87 billion, up 40 percent from the year ago quarter, and gross margins were 25.0 percent, down from 28.7 percent in the year ago quarter.
So yeah, total unit shipments up: check. Revenues up: check. Profits increasing: check. Margin increasing: check. Looks like one sick company to me. Apple is DOOMED, I say.
Why compare with Dell? I dunno because everyone including Michael Dell does. Hell you just did, too. Dell sells consumer electronics as does Apple. They even have their attempt at competing with the iPod called the DJ (or whatever; who has one of these?) Seems like a decent comparison, even if it's not perfect. Obviously, their business plans are quite different. Dell want to sell low-cost, high volume to the lowest common denominator. Apple sells value, innovation and user experience to people that are willing to pay for it. And people do. Hell, people line up outside the door of Apple stores begging to throw down their hard-earned cash for the opportunity to escape from Windows. Reminds me of pictures of the last helicopter out of Saigon. http://www.mishalov.com/Vietnam_finalescape.html
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I don't see how mark Cuban thinks his stations are worth paying for. The other HD channels do not charge. Hell, even HBO throws in the HD channels with your regular subscription.
Tonight HDNet was covering the Republican Convention. So was INHD. The difference? I don't have to pay extra for INHD.
You people that believe that he's a visionary can keep giving him your money.
Everyone does that. When everyone does something it is hard to believe the action is innovative.
Acquiring resources at the lowest cost, producing a product in the most efficient manner and distributing the product with the lowest overhead is required by any business. The only company out of the ones I mentioned that is innovative at all in this area is Dell and they only have one overriding innovation - the direct model. HP still is tied to an outmoded distribution channel involving way too many middlemen and retail partnerships. No innovation there. Gateway essentially copies Dell's model, but we all see how well they're doing. They'll be down to just 2500 employees by the end of the year. I believe that Apple does most of their business online, but obviously still has limited retail partnerships. They are probably doing a better job of copying Dell in this area than the other PC makers.
Besides, anyone that read the parent post would know that the guy wasn't talking about "innovative business strategy."
How the hell are Dell and Gateway innovating? HP is even debatable these days. Apple innovates more that those guys in the desktop market and they have no direct competition.
Learn MATH, before you go off on your tirade of superiority. $690 AU is still more expensive than a 40 GB iPod. And I know the iRiver sucks. So you agree with me.
Do you normally argue with people you agree with? You must be the life of the party.
And your hiding. Borrow someone else's balls and register.
OK, you Apple haters officially no longer get to complain about Apple's prices. Damn, does the iRiver give virtual blowjobs too?
What features are worth an extra $400? A radio and a mic? Who the hell listens to radio anymore? Isn't the whole point of carrying your music with you that you probably don't want to hear the crap on the radio? Have fun with that.
I'd say if you bought an iRiver it sucks to be YOU.
Well, I think Intel is easing into a more descriptive naming system. This will accomplish 2 things: 1. It will be easier to distinguish between the products when the names are more descriptive. 2. Intel plans to use the name as an excuse to get out of warranty claims. It will be hard for customers to claim ignorance and act surprised when their processor dies if they acknowledge that the product name was a 4.0 GHz Steaming Pile of Shit.
Learning curves?
We're talking about Macs right? I assume you've seen/used/heard about one before. What is so terribly difficult to do learn on a Mac?
I'm about to graft an opposable digit onto one of my dog's paws so she can start using my Mac. (The speech recognition software isn't quite up to distinguishing between her barks.)
1. I'm not sure what you are talking about here. It sounds like you are suggesting that it is impossible to add a new drive to a PowerMac. If this is what you are saying, then you couldn't be more wrong. I have a dual 533 G4 that originally shipped with a Sony CDRW drive. I later upgraded this Mac to a 4x Pioneer Superdrive (model 105). It is mounted internally and was immediately able to burn CDs and DVDs without installing any software or changing any settings. The only thing I had to install was iDVD for movie DVD creation and Apple's DVD Player for watching DVD movies, but burning was automatically there.
2. I don't think this concerns the majority of Mac users. And you don't need.Mac to use iSync.
3. You already admitted you were exaggerating. But the iSight is much better than any USB camera I've seen. Apple wants to provide a superior solution to problems like video chatting. In order to do so they realize that it is best to sometimes provide both the hardware and the software for the job in order to increase the likelihood that the solution will work better than any alternative out there. And in this case, it does.
No, they will not work out a deal. I calmly and rationally explained my situation. I even acknowledged that I appreciated the fact that they were offering a phone that can take advantage of a new system, but that a T226 was no upgrade from a T68i considering their feature sets. Primarily, Bluetooth.
They offered to sell me a T616 at the same price as a new subscriber. Big deal. They weren't offering me anything more than what they normally offer. An existing subscriber can get the same deal as new subscribers anyway by simply buying the phone through the website and extending their existing contract for another 2 years.
So, I can't agree that ATT is 'more than happy to work a deal out with you.' That has not been my experience.
As far as auctioning the T226 and T68i, I don't see how I can buy a phone from the sale of a phone that is free from most service providers that offer the phone (T226) and one that I've used for nearly 2 years (T68i). That should get me just enough to cover the eBay fees, not enough for a T616.
Did you get unlimited oral sex from ATT with your contract? Why are you so staunchly (and incorrectly) defending them?
Just to be clear: I don't think ATT has done anything wrong with this offer other than calling it a phone upgrade. It is not a phone upgrade. It MAY be a service upgrade in terms of better reception, but that has yet to be determined.
Actually, the $79 deal applied to existing customers as well, as long as you extended your contract for 2 years. You did not have to call in to get the deal. Existing subscribers could get it through the website.
I didn't take advantage because one of the requirements is that you do automatic bank payments, which I will not do. I had a bad experience with this once when a 'computer error' caused $3500 to disappear from my account. Took seconds for the money to disappear and 10 business days of fighting to get it back. Not worth the risk to me to save $20 on a phone.
I hate to break the news to you, but they didn't do you any favor. A new or existing subscriber can get that price simply by going to the website, and a week or so ago you could have gotten the T616 from ATT online for $79 with a 2 year contract.
ATT did not offer a 850 phone 2 years ago. They just implemented this system within the last year. But then, you didn't think of that now did you?
And I bought my phone from ATT with my contract. Is it unreasonable to believe that a phone that they sold me with their service with a 2 year term would actually be fully supported for that term?
And I fully intend to test the T226 to see if the 850 service is any good BEFORE buying a T616. Which, if you had read my post you would have that I clearly stated that is the phone I want, but I don't want to buy another phone only to find out that ATT still sucks.
When I bought my T68i almost 2 years ago, the T616 did not exist. So, it's my own fault that I didn't travel into the future 2 years ago and buy a T616? Or maybe I should research product/service roadmaps before I ever make a purchase of anything ever again. I guess I must have been high when I thought that a phone and it's corresponding service would be satisfactorily functional for almost 2 years after purchase, especially since my contract term isn't even up yet.
I would love a T616, but I don't want to get locked into ATT again for another 1 or 2 years just to find out that the service still sucks even with the new phones.
I too have the T68i and was upset to find that the T226 is lacking all the features that drove me to buy the T68i.
I also got a card and also called the toll free number to try and refuse the T226. They told me I could not refuse it, but that it was mine and I could use it or not, or sell it or whatever.
I tried to negotiate for a T616 (which is the replacement for the T68i), but had no luck.
AT&T Wireless service in Houston sucks. I am continually having to contort myself while on the phone so I can get a decent signal.
The T226 and T616 are SUPPOSED to have better reception because they use 850MHz band instead of the 900MHz like my T68i. I will try the T226 to see if this is true, and if so then I may buy a T616.
Talk about having to jump through fucking hoops to be able to make an audible phone call.
These problems do not effect everyone. They have had zero impact on me. I have had no problems with the OS since 10.0 on my dual 533. I am running 10.3.2 now and still have no problems. I did have 1 problem on my iBook 700. My user account got corrupted and I could not log in no matter what trick I tried. Had to format reinstall. But that is the only problem I've had across 2 Macs over almost 3 years since 10.0. I'd say that's pretty damn good actually.
I've had my latest XP box for only 8 months and have had to reinstall twice. I guess no one bitches about Windows anymore because it's just a given that it's a nightmare.;)
Did you even read the article?
The dual Opteron was MORE EXPENSIVE that the G5. Period. The guy admitted you could roll your own for less, but if we are going to get upset that the comparison in the article is not fair for whatever reason, then comparing a pre-rolled vs. a roll-you-own machine isn't fair either. You can't have it both ways.
As far as not getting a G5 in a 1U. Where does that come from? WTF does that have to do with the article? Neither machine was 1U! Anyway, wait until MacWorld Jan. 6th. There are supposed to be some XServe announcements.
Does your x86 biggotry impair your ability to read? Or just to see the reality?
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"I don't know if this is true, but it has been said that HP would not be profitable if the company could not sell Inkjet printer ink for $800 per gallon."
It's not true. At all. I'd quit commenting on this subject before you demonstrate exactly how little you know about HP.
Wasn't it Wired that called the Internet bubble the Long Boom. Supposed to last 25 years? No wait! They meant THIS boom will last 25 years.
Let's see. Michael Dell's statement was a public one during the internet and PC industry boom that made him look like a bigger ass than usual. Steve Jobs statement was NOT public, but made in private to an employee that he did not want to see leave Apple 25 YEARS ago when both Apple and Microsoft were fledgling endeavors and the PC industry was embryonic.
It is true that if you look ONLY at Mac unit shipments that Apple is down about one half of 1% compared to FY2000, or 24,000 units less. Some might speculate that this is in anticipation of the switch to Intel-based Macs. They still shipped over 4.53 million Macs both years. Plus you choose to ignore the 22,497,000 iPods they shipped this year. So, if you're suggesting that unit shipments indicate success then they have at least 27,031,000 (not counting software) or ~6 times the unit shipments of FY2000.
Of course, units shipments are only half the equation. Revenues are at least as important. And profit is the ultimate goal. Lets see what happened here: Apple posted revenue (Q405) of $3.68 billion and a net quarterly profit of $430 million, or $.50 per diluted share. These results compare to revenue of $2.35 billion and a net profit of $106 million, or $.13 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 28.1 percent, up from 27.0 percent in the year-ago quarter.
Compare this to Q400: For the quarter, the Company posted a net profit of $170 million, or $.47 per diluted share. These results compare to a net profit of $111 million, or $.31 per diluted share, achieved in the year ago quarter. Revenues for the quarter were $1.87 billion, up 40 percent from the year ago quarter, and gross margins were 25.0 percent, down from 28.7 percent in the year ago quarter.
So yeah, total unit shipments up: check. Revenues up: check. Profits increasing: check. Margin increasing: check. Looks like one sick company to me. Apple is DOOMED, I say.
Why compare with Dell? I dunno because everyone including Michael Dell does. Hell you just did, too. Dell sells consumer electronics as does Apple. They even have their attempt at competing with the iPod called the DJ (or whatever; who has one of these?) Seems like a decent comparison, even if it's not perfect. Obviously, their business plans are quite different. Dell want to sell low-cost, high volume to the lowest common denominator. Apple sells value, innovation and user experience to people that are willing to pay for it. And people do. Hell, people line up outside the door of Apple stores begging to throw down their hard-earned cash for the opportunity to escape from Windows. Reminds me of pictures of the last helicopter out of Saigon. http://www.mishalov.com/Vietnam_finalescape.html
Are there Macs or PCs in that abortion clinic?
I don't see how mark Cuban thinks his stations are worth paying for. The other HD channels do not charge. Hell, even HBO throws in the HD channels with your regular subscription.
Tonight HDNet was covering the Republican Convention. So was INHD. The difference? I don't have to pay extra for INHD.
You people that believe that he's a visionary can keep giving him your money.
Everyone does that. When everyone does something it is hard to believe the action is innovative.
Acquiring resources at the lowest cost, producing a product in the most efficient manner and distributing the product with the lowest overhead is required by any business. The only company out of the ones I mentioned that is innovative at all in this area is Dell and they only have one overriding innovation - the direct model. HP still is tied to an outmoded distribution channel involving way too many middlemen and retail partnerships. No innovation there. Gateway essentially copies Dell's model, but we all see how well they're doing. They'll be down to just 2500 employees by the end of the year. I believe that Apple does most of their business online, but obviously still has limited retail partnerships. They are probably doing a better job of copying Dell in this area than the other PC makers.
Besides, anyone that read the parent post would know that the guy wasn't talking about "innovative business strategy."
Try again.
Competition inspires innovation
How the hell are Dell and Gateway innovating? HP is even debatable these days. Apple innovates more that those guys in the desktop market and they have no direct competition.
Learn MATH, before you go off on your tirade of superiority. $690 AU is still more expensive than a 40 GB iPod. And I know the iRiver sucks. So you agree with me. Do you normally argue with people you agree with? You must be the life of the party. And your hiding. Borrow someone else's balls and register.
$690!?!?
OK, you Apple haters officially no longer get to complain about Apple's prices. Damn, does the iRiver give virtual blowjobs too?
What features are worth an extra $400? A radio and a mic? Who the hell listens to radio anymore? Isn't the whole point of carrying your music with you that you probably don't want to hear the crap on the radio? Have fun with that.
I'd say if you bought an iRiver it sucks to be YOU.
Well, I think Intel is easing into a more descriptive naming system. This will accomplish 2 things:
1. It will be easier to distinguish between the products when the names are more descriptive.
2. Intel plans to use the name as an excuse to get out of warranty claims. It will be hard for customers to claim ignorance and act surprised when their processor dies if they acknowledge that the product name was a 4.0 GHz Steaming Pile of Shit.
The Steaming Pile of Shit is on the roadmap, BTW.
Use OS X. No Problems. Yet.
Learning curves? We're talking about Macs right? I assume you've seen/used/heard about one before. What is so terribly difficult to do learn on a Mac? I'm about to graft an opposable digit onto one of my dog's paws so she can start using my Mac. (The speech recognition software isn't quite up to distinguishing between her barks.)
Open your ass somewhere else. You're stinking up the place.
1. I'm not sure what you are talking about here. It sounds like you are suggesting that it is impossible to add a new drive to a PowerMac. If this is what you are saying, then you couldn't be more wrong. I have a dual 533 G4 that originally shipped with a Sony CDRW drive. I later upgraded this Mac to a 4x Pioneer Superdrive (model 105). It is mounted internally and was immediately able to burn CDs and DVDs without installing any software or changing any settings. The only thing I had to install was iDVD for movie DVD creation and Apple's DVD Player for watching DVD movies, but burning was automatically there.
.Mac to use iSync.
2. I don't think this concerns the majority of Mac users. And you don't need
3. You already admitted you were exaggerating. But the iSight is much better than any USB camera I've seen. Apple wants to provide a superior solution to problems like video chatting. In order to do so they realize that it is best to sometimes provide both the hardware and the software for the job in order to increase the likelihood that the solution will work better than any alternative out there. And in this case, it does.
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No, they will not work out a deal. I calmly and rationally explained my situation. I even acknowledged that I appreciated the fact that they were offering a phone that can take advantage of a new system, but that a T226 was no upgrade from a T68i considering their feature sets. Primarily, Bluetooth.
They offered to sell me a T616 at the same price as a new subscriber. Big deal. They weren't offering me anything more than what they normally offer. An existing subscriber can get the same deal as new subscribers anyway by simply buying the phone through the website and extending their existing contract for another 2 years.
So, I can't agree that ATT is 'more than happy to work a deal out with you.' That has not been my experience.
As far as auctioning the T226 and T68i, I don't see how I can buy a phone from the sale of a phone that is free from most service providers that offer the phone (T226) and one that I've used for nearly 2 years (T68i). That should get me just enough to cover the eBay fees, not enough for a T616.
Did you get unlimited oral sex from ATT with your contract? Why are you so staunchly (and incorrectly) defending them?
Just to be clear: I don't think ATT has done anything wrong with this offer other than calling it a phone upgrade. It is not a phone upgrade. It MAY be a service upgrade in terms of better reception, but that has yet to be determined.
Actually, the $79 deal applied to existing customers as well, as long as you extended your contract for 2 years. You did not have to call in to get the deal. Existing subscribers could get it through the website.
I didn't take advantage because one of the requirements is that you do automatic bank payments, which I will not do. I had a bad experience with this once when a 'computer error' caused $3500 to disappear from my account. Took seconds for the money to disappear and 10 business days of fighting to get it back. Not worth the risk to me to save $20 on a phone.
I hate to break the news to you, but they didn't do you any favor. A new or existing subscriber can get that price simply by going to the website, and a week or so ago you could have gotten the T616 from ATT online for $79 with a 2 year contract.
Yes, you are one of the morons.
ATT did not offer a 850 phone 2 years ago. They just implemented this system within the last year. But then, you didn't think of that now did you?
And I bought my phone from ATT with my contract. Is it unreasonable to believe that a phone that they sold me with their service with a 2 year term would actually be fully supported for that term?
And I fully intend to test the T226 to see if the 850 service is any good BEFORE buying a T616. Which, if you had read my post you would have that I clearly stated that is the phone I want, but I don't want to buy another phone only to find out that ATT still sucks.
OK, here's the deal. You are one of the morons.
When I bought my T68i almost 2 years ago, the T616 did not exist. So, it's my own fault that I didn't travel into the future 2 years ago and buy a T616? Or maybe I should research product/service roadmaps before I ever make a purchase of anything ever again. I guess I must have been high when I thought that a phone and it's corresponding service would be satisfactorily functional for almost 2 years after purchase, especially since my contract term isn't even up yet.
I would love a T616, but I don't want to get locked into ATT again for another 1 or 2 years just to find out that the service still sucks even with the new phones.
I too have the T68i and was upset to find that the T226 is lacking all the features that drove me to buy the T68i.
I also got a card and also called the toll free number to try and refuse the T226. They told me I could not refuse it, but that it was mine and I could use it or not, or sell it or whatever.
I tried to negotiate for a T616 (which is the replacement for the T68i), but had no luck.
AT&T Wireless service in Houston sucks. I am continually having to contort myself while on the phone so I can get a decent signal.
The T226 and T616 are SUPPOSED to have better reception because they use 850MHz band instead of the 900MHz like my T68i. I will try the T226 to see if this is true, and if so then I may buy a T616.
Talk about having to jump through fucking hoops to be able to make an audible phone call.
Another enlightened mind.
Did Apple piss in your cereal this morning?
What's your take on AppleJacks? 'Cause they're pretty good.
These problems do not effect everyone. They have had zero impact on me. I have had no problems with the OS since 10.0 on my dual 533. I am running 10.3.2 now and still have no problems. I did have 1 problem on my iBook 700. My user account got corrupted and I could not log in no matter what trick I tried. Had to format reinstall. But that is the only problem I've had across 2 Macs over almost 3 years since 10.0. I'd say that's pretty damn good actually.
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I've had my latest XP box for only 8 months and have had to reinstall twice. I guess no one bitches about Windows anymore because it's just a given that it's a nightmare.
peecees suck ass.
and why do pc users have to be so annoying. can't they just get a life?
answer: no, annoying peecee users cannot get a life. they must post annoying comments to rag on apple users.
Did you even read the article? The dual Opteron was MORE EXPENSIVE that the G5. Period. The guy admitted you could roll your own for less, but if we are going to get upset that the comparison in the article is not fair for whatever reason, then comparing a pre-rolled vs. a roll-you-own machine isn't fair either. You can't have it both ways. As far as not getting a G5 in a 1U. Where does that come from? WTF does that have to do with the article? Neither machine was 1U! Anyway, wait until MacWorld Jan. 6th. There are supposed to be some XServe announcements. Does your x86 biggotry impair your ability to read? Or just to see the reality?