So you compare installing an OS to running a plugin? I can take a Ubuntu cd and install it faster and with fewer steps than Windows 7. Just did it last weekend. I not only have more software, but better software by default.
I do not need to install anti-virus, intrusion detection, anti-spyware software, etc... So yes, installing Ubuntu Linux is easier than Windows 7.
My windows desktop refuses to play WoW crashing the second it launches. Guess i need a "driver" or something. And it wont connect to my Router beacause i need to install some "network" driver or something for my motherboard. Funny how the Ubuntu has no such issue with the networking.
$100-$200 per user is super expensive compared to $0 per user. Have 200 employees, just for the exchange licesnse we are talking over $20,000 a year. Not to mention the proprietary x.500 Active Directory, Outlook seats, Windows licenses, Anti-Virus, Intrustion Detection, Spyware detection, etc... Not to mention the other long term costs of being locked into a proprietary Microsoft environment. Vendor lock-in will cost you dearly in the end.
And guess which labs do more actual work. Hint it is not the closed, proprietary, patent encumbered, super expensive, proprietary, black box software ones.
I agree, XP is the wrong way to go. Get rid of the super expensive Windows environment and move to GNU/Linux. Free yourself from the Microsoft lock-in and save a boatload of money.
Ah, the Microsoft Slashdot Astroturf Group out in full force. How is this +5? You are saying vendor lock-in is good? You like paying tons of money for things you can do for free on other platforms?
Great. So where can i download the version for Ubuntu? Anyone with half a brain would continue to stay far away from anything from Microsoft, you always end up paying dearly in the end.
The service has been pretty flawless for me. I have been in the beta for almost a month now and the performance is unreal. I have no idea how it works, but it does. I have a 12Mb connection with Comcast outside of Philadelphia.
Why is the interface written in a proprietary technology to begin with? Why target a proprietary run time which uses a standards based web browser as its container? It makes no sense. If your app can not work using web standards, why use a web browser? You take the web out of web browser.
Simple, stick to standards, have your devs do the: if( IE ) do all sorts of crazy stuff to make work because MS sucks; else works in all other browsers;
Hi. I am a bad developer too. I just want to write one app, to the lowest common denominator and ignore the innovation of the hardware and operating system upon which it runs. Once all the hardware and operating systems have the same features, i will upgrade my app. thanks.
Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about. You _can_ develop cross platform via XCode as the parent said. C and C++ are not Apple's tech last i checked.
The market is deciding. Bad devs who only know Flash will have to learn real development. The vast majority will fail and make room for those who know how to develop. No one is forcing you to develop for Apple products. I know i will enjoy less competition.
problem is Adblock on Chrome does not block ads, it only hides them. All the ads still get loaded and all their tracking scripts still track you and run in the background.
My company locks down machines more and more every day. The funny part is they do it in the name of security, yet we run insecure Microsoft Windows and are forced to only use the totally insecure IE browser. All in the name of security. LOL.
Then they add in Anti-virus, intrusion detection, full disk encryption, all sorts of system monitoring software to validate licenses (keeps the lawyers happy) and the machine grinds to a stand still.
Then i get..."Done yet?". To which i reply, "Well i could have been done a week ago, but this machine is so unresponsive that my productivity is a tiny fraction of what it could be."
Because Microsoft is a horrible company and should die?
Let's see, just recently...bribing and stacking ISO to get their terrible MSOOXML format certified, endless FUD against GNU/Linux in regards to patents, funding Openmainframe.org to sue IBM, funding SCO to sue IBM and Novell over Linux patents, shamelessly copying everything Apple does (Mac OS, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc...), thwarting competition and interoperability at every step, charging consumers over and over again for the same OS, and i can go all night with this...
How many years was Apple telling everyone to move to the newer API? Yeah. Adobe did nothing for years and got called on it. now they are inventing all sorts of lies to try and cover their asses.
funny, here i thought a web app could run on any standards compliant browser. There is your true cross platform....built on open, non proprietary, standards. You want to build a app which leverages the iphone, do it, not some half assed, lowest common denominator, app in a proprietary, patent encumbered toolkit like Silverturd or Flash.
So what frameworks do you use? the total crap J2ee or jee or whatever the vendor driven standard is called today? Or do you just code everything yourself from scratch on every project?
ASP.NET does not have anything to do with standards....that is the point. ASP.NET is a proprietary, patent encumbered Microsoft technology. The story about how microsoft fails standards is done in a non-standard proprietary microsoft tech. get it now?
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So you compare installing an OS to running a plugin? I can take a Ubuntu cd and install it faster and with fewer steps than Windows 7. Just did it last weekend. I not only have more software, but better software by default. I do not need to install anti-virus, intrusion detection, anti-spyware software, etc... So yes, installing Ubuntu Linux is easier than Windows 7. My windows desktop refuses to play WoW crashing the second it launches. Guess i need a "driver" or something. And it wont connect to my Router beacause i need to install some "network" driver or something for my motherboard. Funny how the Ubuntu has no such issue with the networking.
Ah a faux news watcher. Where did the OP say "...extra profit is evil..."? "Under socialism..." wow. how did you get to this point?
Wow. So you are saying the number of drivers determines the complexity of the OS? Wow. Just wow.
sure, just like the ss was following orders
$100-$200 per user is super expensive compared to $0 per user. Have 200 employees, just for the exchange licesnse we are talking over $20,000 a year. Not to mention the proprietary x.500 Active Directory, Outlook seats, Windows licenses, Anti-Virus, Intrustion Detection, Spyware detection, etc... Not to mention the other long term costs of being locked into a proprietary Microsoft environment. Vendor lock-in will cost you dearly in the end.
So, yes that is "super expensive".
And guess which labs do more actual work. Hint it is not the closed, proprietary, patent encumbered, super expensive, proprietary, black box software ones.
I agree, XP is the wrong way to go. Get rid of the super expensive Windows environment and move to GNU/Linux. Free yourself from the Microsoft lock-in and save a boatload of money.
Ah, the Microsoft Slashdot Astroturf Group out in full force. How is this +5? You are saying vendor lock-in is good? You like paying tons of money for things you can do for free on other platforms?
Great. So where can i download the version for Ubuntu? Anyone with half a brain would continue to stay far away from anything from Microsoft, you always end up paying dearly in the end.
The service has been pretty flawless for me. I have been in the beta for almost a month now and the performance is unreal. I have no idea how it works, but it does. I have a 12Mb connection with Comcast outside of Philadelphia.
Why is the interface written in a proprietary technology to begin with? Why target a proprietary run time which uses a standards based web browser as its container? It makes no sense. If your app can not work using web standards, why use a web browser? You take the web out of web browser. Simple, stick to standards, have your devs do the: if( IE ) do all sorts of crazy stuff to make work because MS sucks; else works in all other browsers;
Hi. I am a bad developer too. I just want to write one app, to the lowest common denominator and ignore the innovation of the hardware and operating system upon which it runs. Once all the hardware and operating systems have the same features, i will upgrade my app. thanks.
I know you are just a troll, but i will bite...take a look at C or C++. Do those run only on OS X?
Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about. You _can_ develop cross platform via XCode as the parent said. C and C++ are not Apple's tech last i checked. The market is deciding. Bad devs who only know Flash will have to learn real development. The vast majority will fail and make room for those who know how to develop. No one is forcing you to develop for Apple products. I know i will enjoy less competition.
problem is Adblock on Chrome does not block ads, it only hides them. All the ads still get loaded and all their tracking scripts still track you and run in the background.
waiting for my code to compile. Takes forever with all this crapware running on my cheapo company laptop.
My company locks down machines more and more every day. The funny part is they do it in the name of security, yet we run insecure Microsoft Windows and are forced to only use the totally insecure IE browser. All in the name of security. LOL. Then they add in Anti-virus, intrusion detection, full disk encryption, all sorts of system monitoring software to validate licenses (keeps the lawyers happy) and the machine grinds to a stand still. Then i get..."Done yet?". To which i reply, "Well i could have been done a week ago, but this machine is so unresponsive that my productivity is a tiny fraction of what it could be."
The Zune is a roaring success if its goal was to grab a tiny, insignificant fraction of the portable mp3 player market.
What monopoly does Apple have? People wave that word around like a child who found daddy's revolver in the bed table.
Because Microsoft is a horrible company and should die?
Let's see, just recently...bribing and stacking ISO to get their terrible MSOOXML format certified, endless FUD against GNU/Linux in regards to patents, funding Openmainframe.org to sue IBM, funding SCO to sue IBM and Novell over Linux patents, shamelessly copying everything Apple does (Mac OS, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc...), thwarting competition and interoperability at every step, charging consumers over and over again for the same OS, and i can go all night with this...
How many years was Apple telling everyone to move to the newer API? Yeah. Adobe did nothing for years and got called on it. now they are inventing all sorts of lies to try and cover their asses.
what browser has supported canvas for years?
funny, here i thought a web app could run on any standards compliant browser. There is your true cross platform....built on open, non proprietary, standards. You want to build a app which leverages the iphone, do it, not some half assed, lowest common denominator, app in a proprietary, patent encumbered toolkit like Silverturd or Flash.
So what frameworks do you use? the total crap J2ee or jee or whatever the vendor driven standard is called today? Or do you just code everything yourself from scratch on every project?
ASP.NET does not have anything to do with standards....that is the point. ASP.NET is a proprietary, patent encumbered Microsoft technology. The story about how microsoft fails standards is done in a non-standard proprietary microsoft tech. get it now?