Cable here is 2500/512. Fairly reliable (the occasional morning when it's dropping 80-90% of packets), but I haven't checked out whether there's port blocking. They don't ban servers, and don't have caps (IIRC). It's Earthlink. We had Sprint (read: Earthlink) DSL before, and they explicitly allowed servers.
"FWIW, $45 for a 40GB 7200RPM Maxtor OEM today only. Prone to SMDS, but that's better than Western Digital Syndrome..."
Could I trouble you for definitions of SMDS and Western Digital Syndrome? Google only turned up a lot of results that don't seem to apply.
Hard drive problems are, unfortunately, an area of interest to me.
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My answer was
SMDS - Sudden Maxtor Death Syndrome - When a Maxtor drive dies, it's
very sudden. Western Digital Syndrome - In my experience, WD HDDs gradually die. They occasionally lose data, sometimes crash, but come back. However, they do eventually die.
The reason I am posting this is because he didn't want to due to mod point issues.
An example would be the system in NexGen, AMD K6 and newer, and Intel Pentium Pro and newer CPUs to convert x86 instructions to RISC-like instructions. Transmeta chips don't count, because they do the conversion in software.
That was the cheapest CPU Newegg had that they had a mobo for (the $15 K6-2 500 doesn't count - I might get one, and underclock it to 400 (my mobo can only do 3.5x66, so setting it for 2 (AMD chips interpret it as 6) x 66 gets it to 400MHz.)
Not really... I save more like $20, and 128MB isn't much, especially considering it'll be holding/home (remember, this is a PC Chips mobo, it WILL need a reboot).
Responding to an obvious troll, but I was referring to the case, mobo, and RAM. The case is $10 WITH a 350W PSU. How good do you think that is? The mobo is a $21 Socket A PC Chips mobo. The RAM is the cheapest crap I could find on Newegg.
Not only that, but the m68k and PPC have nothing to do with each other, except for the fact that both were used by Apple in their Macs, and that PPCs emulated m68ks for years.
Correct. IIRC, the Quadra was the top-of-the-line model. The Centris was mid-end, and the Classic and LC lines were bottom-of-the-line. (Classic being an all-in-one LC, essentially, in the Color models)
Umm... probably Woody. Debian's been able to run on m68k for a LONG time.
Oh, and any references I made to 68030 being the least it can run on were wrong. Not that there's many Mac models that have the 68020 (the original II, and the LC?)...
I'll take an SE30 with 128MB RAM, thanks (it's possible with 16MB modules, but I can buy a beat up G3 for the price of the RAM to get an SE30 to 128MB).
The SE30 is the least amount of computer that Linux/m68k would run on.
A Mac Plus is NEVER going to happen. The Mac Plus maxes out at 4MB RAM, and I doubt MacBochs could keep up like that.
Well, now THAT'S easy. Xbox Linux and Basilisk II will get the job done. I play around with Basilisk II on Windows, and it's kinda neat - lets me run Mac OS on my box. Now, I just need to get Rhapsody to work... (when it gets to power management enabled, it freezes. I'm running VPC2K4 (it makes VMWare look sad, and it's an MS product))
Don't try it without Bochs. WinXP needs the Pentium ISA. Also, the installer will refuse to boot without at least 64MB RAM, and the OS will refuse to run without at least 18MB RAM (nobody's tried 17, but the OS didn't run with 16).
Try to get your hands on a Pentium Overdrive, put 64MB RAM in the box, install XP, and take it down to 17MB. You might want to put the 486 back in just to check if it works.
Not close enough. Someone's tried getting Win2K to run on it, I'm sure, but I've only heard of it running on a 486. WinXP NEEDS the P5 (Pentium) ISA, for some reason, but at least not the P6 (Pentium Pro) or P6+MMX (Pentium II) ISA.
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Cable here is 2500/512. Fairly reliable (the occasional morning when it's dropping 80-90% of packets), but I haven't checked out whether there's port blocking. They don't ban servers, and don't have caps (IIRC). It's Earthlink. We had Sprint (read: Earthlink) DSL before, and they explicitly allowed servers.
I wasn't calling the Athlon 1.33GHz shit. In fact, I'd DREAM of having one of those in my desktop.
I was calling the PC Chips motherboard shit, the no-name RAM shit, and the $10 case+PSU shit.
Oh, people have been successful with the idea. However, the proliferation of cheap personal computers fscked it up.
And now look... there are three tiers again, and two on their laptop and media player lines.
Power - top of the line, couldn't afford one in your wildest dreams
i - mid-end (bottom-of-the-line in laptops)
e - bottom-of-the-line
Why didn't they call the iPod Mini the ePod, and make a wireless music jukebox called the PowerPod?
An example would be the system in NexGen, AMD K6 and newer, and Intel Pentium Pro and newer CPUs to convert x86 instructions to RISC-like instructions. Transmeta chips don't count, because they do the conversion in software.
As long as you've got an MMU, you're good.
If you can find a 68020-based box with an MMU (an Amiga, maybe?), Debian will work on it.
Ah, I had a $10 case with PSU. Other than that, my box was identical.
Timing loops? Try Mo'Slo, with a nice low percentage.
That was the cheapest CPU Newegg had that they had a mobo for (the $15 K6-2 500 doesn't count - I might get one, and underclock it to 400 (my mobo can only do 3.5x66, so setting it for 2 (AMD chips interpret it as 6) x 66 gets it to 400MHz.)
Well, they didn't say Linux on PearPC on Centris on XBox, just Centris on XBox.
As for the MMU, it can emulate an MMU, it's just VERY buggy. Also, could Pear run on uClinux/m68k?
Not really... I save more like $20, and 128MB isn't much, especially considering it'll be holding /home (remember, this is a PC Chips mobo, it WILL need a reboot).
Hey, it met all of the feature requirements ;-)
;-)
It didn't have to last, it just had to be electrically safe
Responding to an obvious troll, but I was referring to the case, mobo, and RAM. The case is $10 WITH a 350W PSU. How good do you think that is? The mobo is a $21 Socket A PC Chips mobo. The RAM is the cheapest crap I could find on Newegg.
Umm... how much did that RAM cost?
I'm thinking it was over $20 for a 16MB stick when I was checking out feasability of SE30 hacks.
How 'bout you actually get a CPU that fits the mobo? It'll take a Pentium II, Slot 1 Pentium III, or a Socket 370-Slot 1 converter with Socket 370 P3.
32MB DDR RAM? WTF? DDR won't work on that board, I'm sure!
Also, this'll be USED components. That won't work. This needs to be all NEW components.
Because this needs to be manufactured. A manufacturer can't just grab a 233MHz Pentium MMX off the shelf.
By shit components, I meant quality of components, not performance of components.
Not only that, but the m68k and PPC have nothing to do with each other, except for the fact that both were used by Apple in their Macs, and that PPCs emulated m68ks for years.
Correct. IIRC, the Quadra was the top-of-the-line model. The Centris was mid-end, and the Classic and LC lines were bottom-of-the-line. (Classic being an all-in-one LC, essentially, in the Color models)
Umm... probably Woody. Debian's been able to run on m68k for a LONG time.
Oh, and any references I made to 68030 being the least it can run on were wrong. Not that there's many Mac models that have the 68020 (the original II, and the LC?)...
I'll take an SE30 with 128MB RAM, thanks (it's possible with 16MB modules, but I can buy a beat up G3 for the price of the RAM to get an SE30 to 128MB).
The SE30 is the least amount of computer that Linux/m68k would run on.
A Mac Plus is NEVER going to happen. The Mac Plus maxes out at 4MB RAM, and I doubt MacBochs could keep up like that.
Well, now THAT'S easy. Xbox Linux and Basilisk II will get the job done. I play around with Basilisk II on Windows, and it's kinda neat - lets me run Mac OS on my box. Now, I just need to get Rhapsody to work... (when it gets to power management enabled, it freezes. I'm running VPC2K4 (it makes VMWare look sad, and it's an MS product))
Don't try it without Bochs. WinXP needs the Pentium ISA. Also, the installer will refuse to boot without at least 64MB RAM, and the OS will refuse to run without at least 18MB RAM (nobody's tried 17, but the OS didn't run with 16).
Try to get your hands on a Pentium Overdrive, put 64MB RAM in the box, install XP, and take it down to 17MB. You might want to put the 486 back in just to check if it works.
Not close enough. Someone's tried getting Win2K to run on it, I'm sure, but I've only heard of it running on a 486. WinXP NEEDS the P5 (Pentium) ISA, for some reason, but at least not the P6 (Pentium Pro) or P6+MMX (Pentium II) ISA.
Debian's had an m68k (OK, 68030+) branch for quite a while now. X is almost usable on a Mac SE30, from what I've heard.