Yes, the Trigem Cognac is VERY shitty. Hook up a CD burner, or switch to a weird resolution, and it'll fry it instantly... Learned this from playing with an HP Pavilion 6535. You can do better with PC Chips stuff... probably about $170, and that's all new components, and no modem.
Oh, and the i810 takes SDRAM, which due to age is more. That will need the NIC - I know it did...
FWIW, $45 for a 40GB 7200RPM Maxtor OEM today only. Prone to SMDS, but that's better than Western Digital Syndrome...
I had a box specced out at Newegg without any IDE cables. It had a PC Chips Socket A mobo, a 1.3GHz Athlon, 128MB DDR RAM (didn't check speed, was only looking at prices), 40GB Maxtor HDD, $10 case with 350W PSU, and NO CD drive or IDE cables, and I hit $143.50.
We have a major manufacturer making a cacheless 1GHz/400MHz Pentium M with mobo for (estimated from insider sources) ~$100. However, no RAM, no HDD, no optical.
There might be outdated components, $20 case WITH 300W PSU combos, and some PC Chips crap, but it still falls under electrically safe... We're going to use NewEgg numbers, and not include shipping.
Case: MGE ATX case w/350W PSU $10 (one day special) (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?des cription=11-171-037&depa=1) Mobo: PC Chips Socket A mobo $26 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?des cription=13-185-010&depa=1) CPU: Athlon 1.33GHz $41 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?des cription=19-103-156&depa=1) RAM: Rosewill 128MB DDR $21 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?des cription=20-223-007&depa=1) HDD: Maxtor 40GB $45.50 (one day special) (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?des cription=22-140-133&depa=1)
We'll stop it here. We're using SHIT components, and we've got $143.50, without shipping, IDE cables, CD-ROM drive, etc., etc., and using one day specials.
ARM has PDAs and stuff like routers. VIA has set-tops primarily.
Now, I don't know why VIA doesn't have a stronger presence in palmtops (except for Transmeta only needing a seventh of the power). The VIA CPU is a hell of a lot smaller, so there's more room for a battery, or a smaller palmtop.
VIA's trying to be all-around. Cheap (so the masses can buy - actually, this is goal #1 - the division that makes their CPUs was started by a couple former Dell engineers who were ticked that Intel was charging so much for their 386), small (look at Nano-BGA - smallest x86 around), fast enough, and cool.
Transmeta, on the other hand, is trying to be ice cold, and more importantly, low power. They're actually one of the physically LARGEST x86 solutions, and they're not cheap. Sure, they might be faster than VIA, but not by too much (I actually had a chance to read the article on Epiacenter several hours before the/.ing, but only glanced at it).
They wanted to give karma, which Funny does not give. So, they had to use Insightful (Underrated would have been better, though - you can't even M2 that).
OK, the design could be modified to allow for a 3.5" laptop bay, enough for a 4-in-1 reader.
I can see why a super-slim laptop and expandability don't go hand in hand.
BTW, on fancy lines - it can be a feature of the case itself. Look at ATX cases. They're all generally compatible, even though some look completely different. There'd be room on the outside to do anything. They could go out of spec (if connectors were tall), and make a 3" thick laptop with a HUGE heatpipe setup.
Flamebait? I'm not attacking IE, I'm mentioning that any site visited with IE gets logged (and the item pulled out of cache, IIRC) by Google Desktop Search. In a future version, it might support Opera or Firefox, in which case webmails visited by those browsers would also apply.
1. Buy new drive 2. Back up old drive 3. Shut down 4. Remove two identical screws that appear to just hold in PCMCIA slot 5. Pull it out 6. Remove screws from drive 7. Pop out drive 8. Pop in new drive 9. Screw in new drive 10. Screw bay back in 11. Boot up 12. Restore to new drive 13. Reboot
I didn't ACTUALLY do this, but this is what it would take.
Now, as for my Toshiba Satellite Pro 405CS:
1. Buy new drive small enough that BIOS can recognize it 2. Back up old drive to FLOPPY DISKS 3. Shut down and remove battery 4. Remove two screws holding in this thing with a metal tab that is underneath where the battery was 5. Lift bay out 6. Remove 4 screws (IIRC) 7. Remove drive 8. Put new drive in 9. Put 4 screws back in 10. Put battery back in, and boot 11. Restore to new drive 12. Reboot
And the 15" is the EASY model? Man, I'd hate to have an iBook...
Going slightly offtopic, but WHY can't someone create a SIMPLE standard for DIY laptops?
http://bhtooefr.freeshell.org/asdf.PNG is a quick job in MS Paint of a "standard" for a laptop with up to a 15" display. The motherboard takes the entire area not taken by drives or speakers. The hard drive/PCMCIA thing would work like my Dell Inspiron 1100 (don't buy one). The CD drive may require removal of the keyboard/mouse assembly, but that's simply popping the tabs and lifting it off.
I forgot to provide for upgradability of the GPU in that, and I also forgot Mini-PCI (RAM is on the bottom, that's a top view with keyboard/mouse assembly and display assembly removed). Back ports were not drawn - they'd vary from mobo to mobo.
There'd be no ribbon cables, and very few wires (speakers would have wires).
Well, Agenda Computing Germany DID have an Ethernet addon;-)
I'm looking at buying one of these, FWIW. A Zaurus is out of my price range, and these are pretty hackable (pretty much all Linux PDA stuff was on these, except for the iPaq stuff that isn't THAT popular due to the fact that you have to reflash your PDA, and there's a Windows tax).
Something else neat about these - the Zaurus uses Qt direct to framebuffer. These things use good ol' fashioned X.
If I WERE to get a Zaurus, it'd probably be a used SL-5500 or even an SL-5000D.
You paid $40 for your Model M? I paid $1 for my 1391401, and $4 for my 42H (the person who got it for me didn't think to look to see if the PS/2 cable was damaged, and there were keys missing, but not the ones I was missing from my 139, so some got transplanted).
I don't care about collector's grade, just that It Works(tm).
2MB L3 cache, IIRC (2MB total, also, because of the way Intel does cache - the space that the L1 takes up is unavailable in the L2, and ditto for L2 and L3).
FWIW, P6 is the codename of the PPro core, because it's Processor Family 6. The Pentium II, III, and M all are members of this family. A six-core PM could be fun;-)
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Yes, the Trigem Cognac is VERY shitty. Hook up a CD burner, or switch to a weird resolution, and it'll fry it instantly... Learned this from playing with an HP Pavilion 6535. You can do better with PC Chips stuff... probably about $170, and that's all new components, and no modem.
Oh, and the i810 takes SDRAM, which due to age is more. That will need the NIC - I know it did...
FWIW, $45 for a 40GB 7200RPM Maxtor OEM today only. Prone to SMDS, but that's better than Western Digital Syndrome...
It would have the fact that it wouldn't be a cheap-ass mobo...
In fact, it'd be a nice SFF mobo, and it'd be an Intel board - those are pretty damn stable.
Keep in mind, the example assumed keyboard, mouse (if you go REALLY cheap, $5 for the combo) and monitor were already purchased, or were free.
I had a box specced out at Newegg without any IDE cables. It had a PC Chips Socket A mobo, a 1.3GHz Athlon, 128MB DDR RAM (didn't check speed, was only looking at prices), 40GB Maxtor HDD, $10 case with 350W PSU, and NO CD drive or IDE cables, and I hit $143.50.
That's about $200 over the target. I doubt that the KB and mouse would make much of a dent in that $200, FWIW.
We have a major manufacturer making a cacheless 1GHz/400MHz Pentium M with mobo for (estimated from insider sources) ~$100. However, no RAM, no HDD, no optical.
There might be outdated components, $20 case WITH 300W PSU combos, and some PC Chips crap, but it still falls under electrically safe... We're going to use NewEgg numbers, and not include shipping.
s cription=11-171-037&depa=1)s cription=13-185-010&depa=1)s cription=19-103-156&depa=1)s cription=20-223-007&depa=1)s cription=22-140-133&depa=1)
Case: MGE ATX case w/350W PSU $10 (one day special) (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?de
Mobo: PC Chips Socket A mobo $26 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?de
CPU: Athlon 1.33GHz $41 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?de
RAM: Rosewill 128MB DDR $21 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?de
HDD: Maxtor 40GB $45.50 (one day special) (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?de
We'll stop it here. We're using SHIT components, and we've got $143.50, without shipping, IDE cables, CD-ROM drive, etc., etc., and using one day specials.
It's possible, but not DIY.
A fscking 760ED? Are you sure you're running XP, or is that Windows 3.1 with Calmira XP?
A friend of mine had a 760ED. It's a Pentium 75. Not a bad P75, but still a P75.
ASCII manga?
You don't know what industrial means, do you?
Industrial = embedded, and harsh (extremely hot, dusty, extremely cold, wet, etc., etc.)
Umm... no.
ARM has PDAs and stuff like routers. VIA has set-tops primarily.
Now, I don't know why VIA doesn't have a stronger presence in palmtops (except for Transmeta only needing a seventh of the power). The VIA CPU is a hell of a lot smaller, so there's more room for a battery, or a smaller palmtop.
VIA's trying to be all-around. Cheap (so the masses can buy - actually, this is goal #1 - the division that makes their CPUs was started by a couple former Dell engineers who were ticked that Intel was charging so much for their 386), small (look at Nano-BGA - smallest x86 around), fast enough, and cool.
/.ing, but only glanced at it).
Transmeta, on the other hand, is trying to be ice cold, and more importantly, low power. They're actually one of the physically LARGEST x86 solutions, and they're not cheap. Sure, they might be faster than VIA, but not by too much (I actually had a chance to read the article on Epiacenter several hours before the
Well, it's CGI+JavaScript, but there is a browser (click Browser Emulator) that works under any JavaScript-supporting browser ;-)
;-)
Pick a browser, any browser. IE and the Line-mode browser are especially fun
They wanted to give karma, which Funny does not give. So, they had to use Insightful (Underrated would have been better, though - you can't even M2 that).
However, it's got expansion, so you could develop a GPU module for it...
OK, the design could be modified to allow for a 3.5" laptop bay, enough for a 4-in-1 reader.
I can see why a super-slim laptop and expandability don't go hand in hand.
BTW, on fancy lines - it can be a feature of the case itself. Look at ATX cases. They're all generally compatible, even though some look completely different. There'd be room on the outside to do anything. They could go out of spec (if connectors were tall), and make a 3" thick laptop with a HUGE heatpipe setup.
Flamebait? I'm not attacking IE, I'm mentioning that any site visited with IE gets logged (and the item pulled out of cache, IIRC) by Google Desktop Search. In a future version, it might support Opera or Firefox, in which case webmails visited by those browsers would also apply.
Webmail checked with Internet Explorer DOES apply. ANYTHING visited with Internet Explorer applies.
YIKES!
My Dell Inspiron 1100 has this procedure:
1. Buy new drive
2. Back up old drive
3. Shut down
4. Remove two identical screws that appear to just hold in PCMCIA slot
5. Pull it out
6. Remove screws from drive
7. Pop out drive
8. Pop in new drive
9. Screw in new drive
10. Screw bay back in
11. Boot up
12. Restore to new drive
13. Reboot
I didn't ACTUALLY do this, but this is what it would take.
Now, as for my Toshiba Satellite Pro 405CS:
1. Buy new drive small enough that BIOS can recognize it
2. Back up old drive to FLOPPY DISKS
3. Shut down and remove battery
4. Remove two screws holding in this thing with a metal tab that is underneath where the battery was
5. Lift bay out
6. Remove 4 screws (IIRC)
7. Remove drive
8. Put new drive in
9. Put 4 screws back in
10. Put battery back in, and boot
11. Restore to new drive
12. Reboot
And the 15" is the EASY model? Man, I'd hate to have an iBook...
Going slightly offtopic, but WHY can't someone create a SIMPLE standard for DIY laptops?
http://bhtooefr.freeshell.org/asdf.PNG is a quick job in MS Paint of a "standard" for a laptop with up to a 15" display. The motherboard takes the entire area not taken by drives or speakers. The hard drive/PCMCIA thing would work like my Dell Inspiron 1100 (don't buy one). The CD drive may require removal of the keyboard/mouse assembly, but that's simply popping the tabs and lifting it off.
I forgot to provide for upgradability of the GPU in that, and I also forgot Mini-PCI (RAM is on the bottom, that's a top view with keyboard/mouse assembly and display assembly removed). Back ports were not drawn - they'd vary from mobo to mobo.
There'd be no ribbon cables, and very few wires (speakers would have wires).
Unless your threshold is -1. I browse at 0, to avoid the trolls but get everything else, but those who use mod points should browse at -1.
Well, Agenda Computing Germany DID have an Ethernet addon ;-)
I'm looking at buying one of these, FWIW. A Zaurus is out of my price range, and these are pretty hackable (pretty much all Linux PDA stuff was on these, except for the iPaq stuff that isn't THAT popular due to the fact that you have to reflash your PDA, and there's a Windows tax).
Something else neat about these - the Zaurus uses Qt direct to framebuffer. These things use good ol' fashioned X.
If I WERE to get a Zaurus, it'd probably be a used SL-5500 or even an SL-5000D.
You paid $40 for your Model M? I paid $1 for my 1391401, and $4 for my 42H (the person who got it for me didn't think to look to see if the PS/2 cable was damaged, and there were keys missing, but not the ones I was missing from my 139, so some got transplanted).
I don't care about collector's grade, just that It Works(tm).
2MB L3 cache, IIRC (2MB total, also, because of the way Intel does cache - the space that the L1 takes up is unavailable in the L2, and ditto for L2 and L3).
FWIW, P6 is the codename of the PPro core, because it's Processor Family 6. The Pentium II, III, and M all are members of this family. A six-core PM could be fun ;-)