...will be an Athlon based system. I support AMD 100%, if for no other reason than Intel pulling that stupid processor ID crap a few months ago. Not to mention this WebFitters garbage. If AMD actually has a faster chip, which it certainly sounds like they do with the Athlon, then my decision is that much easier.
Hey, I suggest everyone put in a request for the author of TOAD to port his app to Linux. I spoke on the phone with one of their sales reps, and when she asked what they could do to make a better product, I said "ya, port it to Linux!"
She actually said that there were quite a few requests for Linux, and the author was seriously considering it. Hell, I would buy it if they did! No, its not open source. But it has been free for as long as anyone remembers (until they were bought out by Quest software that is...)
One is moved to ask, in a spirit of genuine concern: Doesn't incest on this scale tend to lead to problems like webbed fingers in future generations?
Ah, webbed fingers aren't necessarily caused by incest AFAIK. Lots of people have webbed fingers and toes, and they don't all have circus jobs either. So regardless if the point of the artical was factually correct or not, it isn't right to stereotype people who are different from you. As Linux users (a minority, but growing fast) we should be fully aware of such issues.
Lets celebrate diversity for the more aquaticly gifted amoung us!
Anyway, ZDnet blew it on this "test" of Linux vs. NT Particularly amusing was the quote "...21 security fixes published by RedHat that have only been out a couple of months..."
A couple of months? Come on give me a break! I check the RedHat Errata page at least once a week, and I'm not even running a contest.
Microsoft has it's priorities all wrong. Make a better operating system and software tools first! This crap has nothing to do with their core purpose in life (unless that purpose is subversion of the free world, in which case they are right on target).
Yup, I'm a shining example of how one can start by using NT and end up with Linux. Quite frankly, I was horrified how this new "NT" system could be advertised as being so stable and fully 32-bit, yet run like a _dog_ on a P90 w/64MB and crash literally once a day. I got so fed up I moved to Linux (already had a UNIX background from college) and never looked back. Eventually got a new system, and didn't hesitate for one microsecond about wiping Windows off it and installing Linux. If Microsoft wants to to hear about "anadotical" stories, I'd be more than happy to give them a 10 page essay. Linux has _never_ crashed on me in the three years I've been using it, and the apps keep coming and coming!
After the initial/. announcement this weekend I was able to download and upgrade my existing 6.0 install with very little hassle. Very painless upgrade compared to 5.2 -> 6.0, which you might expect.
However I didn't get to use the graphical install tool they mentioned in the press release. I had the plain old text mode that all the previous versions of RedHat used. Not that I needed the GUI installer, but what did I do wrong?
Thats what you get for not spending some real money on space projects. We all know that if government doesn't spend at least 10 times what something should cost on the open market, then its bound to be a failure. Wake up boys, NASA is no different! Spend an extra few million for the testing cycle at least, sheesh. And switch from Linux to Windows 2000 Datacenter SKU with a 4 billion user licence. That oughta cost a pretty penny.
The new file manager and Debian package manager should go into the KDE 2.0 release. It was stated that both are open source, so at least large potions of the code can be reused and the look "tweaked" to match the rest of the KDE 2.0 apps. This looks like a win/win situation for everyone, thanks Corel!
RedHat is doing these open source developers a favor, I don't think this should be considered SPAM at all (I wish *I* had got the letter!) Particularly the Debian contributors, who do everything for peanuts (and have no opportunity to make money) but produce an outstanding product. This is an offer to them to reap some of the reward that is justly theirs.
In fact, I think what would be more upsetting is if they _didnt_ take such action. Then they look greedy and ungrateful.
Hey, why didn't NASA install any kind of laser device on these things? I don't see how they can be used for Jedi^H^H^H^Hastronaut training otherwise. Maybe they will just use the built-in fan propulution system to ram into the blindfolded astronauts instead. With a running start, there's no limit to how fast these things could get going in space!
Small apps such as text editors and paint programs tend to be very good examples when it comes to learning a new programming language like GTK or QT. Since KDE/GNOME are open source, anyone just starting out can peek in at the source to see how things are done. I know I have personally done this with many of the smaller KDE apps, and now I have a much greater understanding on how things are supposed to work. From this standpoint, it's definately a benefit in my opinion.
TummyX, here's two features that Windows 2000 will _never_ have.
1. Free (as in beer. downloaded RedHat 6.0 the day it was release - for free)
2. Free (as in speech - open source, if you don't think this is the most issue in computer software don't call yourself a programmer, because you aren't)
If you want to go out and spend $300 for that Windows 2000 closed source CD at your local Walmart, please go ahead. Windows seems perfect for you. Linux will have in short order all those features you just listed, if it doesn't already. Others it already does much much better (terminal server != multiuser OS, for instance)
I would please ask however that you now stop trolling on slashdot trying to make yourself look like an complete asshole, because its working.
I especially loved the part about "How does Linux game programming different from Windows game programming?" Go..read..enjoy.
It would be really nice if Blizzard would get their collective heads out of their butts and port StarCraft to Linux (or even let Loki do it). Such a great game, and such a waste to have to run Windows to play it. As a direct result of SubSpace and StarCraft, I nearly lost 2 girlfriends and flunked out of college;) You know a game is good when its like "ya okay already, I'll come to bed in a _sec_ honey...let me just finish this round!"
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...will be an Athlon based system. I support AMD 100%, if for no other reason than Intel pulling that stupid processor ID crap a few months ago. Not to mention this WebFitters garbage. If AMD actually has a faster chip, which it certainly sounds like they do with the Athlon, then my decision is that much easier.
Long live AMD!
Hey, I suggest everyone put in a request for the author of TOAD to port his app to Linux. I spoke on the phone with one of their sales reps, and when she asked what they could do to make a better product, I said "ya, port it to Linux!"
She actually said that there were quite a few requests for Linux, and the author was seriously considering it. Hell, I would buy it if they did! No, its not open source. But it has been free for as long as anyone remembers (until they were bought out by Quest software that is...)
I wonder if gold CD's count? In that case I'm in trouble :)
One is moved to ask, in a spirit of genuine concern: Doesn't incest on this scale tend to lead to problems like webbed fingers in future generations?
Ah, webbed fingers aren't necessarily caused by incest AFAIK. Lots of people have webbed fingers and toes, and they don't all have circus jobs either. So regardless if the point of the artical was factually correct or not, it isn't right to stereotype people who are different from you. As Linux users (a minority, but growing fast) we should be fully aware of such issues.
Lets celebrate diversity for the more aquaticly gifted amoung us!
ST no?
Anyway, ZDnet blew it on this "test" of Linux vs. NT Particularly amusing was the quote "...21 security fixes published by RedHat that have only been out a couple of months..."
A couple of months? Come on give me a break! I check the RedHat Errata page at least once a week, and I'm not even running a contest.
Microsoft has it's priorities all wrong. Make a better operating system and software tools first! This crap has nothing to do with their core purpose in life (unless that purpose is subversion of the free world, in which case they are right on target).
...that too. Maybe even CLS.
Yup, I'm a shining example of how one can start by using NT and end up with Linux. Quite frankly, I was horrified how this new "NT" system could be advertised as being so stable and fully 32-bit, yet run like a _dog_ on a P90 w/64MB and crash literally once a day. I got so fed up I moved to Linux (already had a UNIX background from college) and never looked back. Eventually got a new system, and didn't hesitate for one microsecond about wiping Windows off it and installing Linux. If Microsoft wants to to hear about "anadotical" stories, I'd be more than happy to give them a 10 page essay. Linux has _never_ crashed on me in the three years I've been using it, and the apps keep coming and coming!
Go Linux!!!
Figures :)
After the initial /. announcement this weekend I was able to download and upgrade my existing 6.0 install with very little hassle. Very painless upgrade compared to 5.2 -> 6.0, which you might expect.
However I didn't get to use the graphical install tool they mentioned in the press release. I had the plain old text mode that all the previous versions of RedHat used. Not that I needed the GUI installer, but what did I do wrong?
This is the beauty of the GPL. RedHat and Mandrake feed off each other in a symbiotic circle.
Question is, when can we expect to download the Windows 2000 ISO? Answer: never, unless it's WaReZ.
VBScript is really quite awful. To base a scripting language off VB, and then to dumb it down *even* more...well, you get the idea.
Very very lame. I suggest ActiveState Perl for Win32, much better and it supports all your perl scripts from Linux!
Thats what you get for not spending some real money on space projects. We all know that if government doesn't spend at least 10 times what something should cost on the open market, then its bound to be a failure. Wake up boys, NASA is no different! Spend an extra few million for the testing cycle at least, sheesh. And switch from Linux to Windows 2000 Datacenter SKU with a 4 billion user licence. That oughta cost a pretty penny.
BTW, just kidding!
...but only the weak ones!
The new file manager and Debian package manager should go into the KDE 2.0 release. It was stated that both are open source, so at least large potions of the code can be reused and the look "tweaked" to match the rest of the KDE 2.0 apps. This looks like a win/win situation for everyone, thanks Corel!
There's an old saying:
"X is the second worst window system ever invented.
Everything else is tied for first."
How true that is!
Well, I guess this puts an end to the Mindcraft fiasco. My friends, Windows 2000 is 0xDEADBEEF.
RedHat is doing these open source developers a favor, I don't think this should be considered SPAM at all (I wish *I* had got the letter!) Particularly the Debian contributors, who do everything for peanuts (and have no opportunity to make money) but produce an outstanding product. This is an offer to them to reap some of the reward that is justly theirs.
In fact, I think what would be more upsetting is if they _didnt_ take such action. Then they look greedy and ungrateful.
Wow, this is a great site, thanks for the link man. Sites like this make me all warm and fuzzy inside!
Hey, why didn't NASA install any kind of laser device on these things? I don't see how they can be used for Jedi^H^H^H^Hastronaut training otherwise. Maybe they will just use the built-in fan propulution system to ram into the blindfolded astronauts instead. With a running start, there's no limit to how fast these things could get going in space!
Small apps such as text editors and paint programs tend to be very good examples when it comes to learning a new programming language like GTK or QT. Since KDE/GNOME are open source, anyone just starting out can peek in at the source to see how things are done. I know I have personally done this with many of the smaller KDE apps, and now I have a much greater understanding on how things are supposed to work. From this standpoint, it's definately a benefit in my opinion.
TummyX, here's two features that Windows 2000 will _never_ have.
1. Free (as in beer. downloaded RedHat 6.0 the day it was release - for free)
2. Free (as in speech - open source, if you don't think this is the most issue in computer software don't call yourself a programmer, because you aren't)
If you want to go out and spend $300 for that Windows 2000 closed source CD at your local Walmart, please go ahead. Windows seems perfect for you. Linux will have in short order all those features you just listed, if it doesn't already. Others it already does much much better (terminal server != multiuser OS, for instance)
I would please ask however that you now stop trolling on slashdot trying to make yourself look like an complete asshole, because its working.
I especially loved the part about "How does Linux game programming different from Windows game programming?" Go..read..enjoy.
;) You know a game is good when its like "ya okay already, I'll come to bed in a _sec_ honey...let me just finish this round!"
It would be really nice if Blizzard would get their collective heads out of their butts and port StarCraft to Linux (or even let Loki do it). Such a great game, and such a waste to have to run Windows to play it. As a direct result of SubSpace and StarCraft, I nearly lost 2 girlfriends and flunked out of college
They really need to come out with a Personal Proxy like what Distributed.Net has. That way you can get cool stats like this!
If they make one, third party stats scripts will come. I promise it.
Linux has one feature that only the *BSD's have, and that is Open Source. In the end, thats all that really matters.