Re:Uhh, VoIP is digital
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Monitoring most voice and data communications has always involved capturing two individual pathways. (Radio signals, trunk lines, etc, etc.)
Often networking or geography prevent monitoring both sides by a single entity - more commonly the reply path is monitored by a remote site on the other side of the country/globe and matched back up after a short delay.
If fabrication were to occur (and I'm sure it has) then it wont be a new thing with VoXX, which itself has been around for a couple of decades now.
Any packet that travels across the major backbones can be stored for a period of time (or indefinitely, if found interesting)
The problem is twofold. First, the definition of VoIP. Is it in the literal sense of 'voice over tcp/ip' or does the protocol type not matter. It could leave holes in the law that mean law enforcement need not obtain a warrant for certain categories of monitoring.
Second issue is targetting. If a warrant is issued, will this provide detail on the target down to IP (or MAC) address, or will (as done currently) they simply store the entire datastream and use a series of human analysts to identify the target. (Meaning that there will be n+1 voice calls monitored while looking for target comms, only dropped when found to be not of interest, or not the target)
Where I'm at, the rule is straight forward - Two allied nationals - do not monitor, one allied and one foreign, monitor in full, do not log identity of allied individual unless on top 10^H^H 500 exemption list. Everything else is ok.
Crypto systems do not always need to be brute forced: 'More often than not' it is a brain dead technician sending the keys across a timeplex, via satellite, and then over HF or something equally as silly, out to their remote site.
Key exchange is where the biggest failures occur (that I see). Many crypto systems still in use throughout this part of the world (still) work in a similar method to the old enigma typewriters - typically they are rapidly broken because they send identical messages using different keys, then send the same message in clear text via some other link.
This is all theory, but say you could instantly travel 14 billion light years to the horizon (as seen from earth)
What would you see? Another horizon a further 14 billion light years distant? My personal feeling is yes, and that the age of the universe is wrong - I don't subscribe to the big bang theory, relativity, or any other convenient explanations for this 'anomaly'. Nor do I believe in God.
I may be marked as troll, but I suspect there are many others with a similar view.
Incompetence doesn't matter - they have had long enough to sort through these issues - as someone else posed in the last microsoft thread, punishment is not meant to feel good.
I guess they need to get a few hundred more developers involved, work through these problems, release patches via windows update so everyone is ultimately happy(er). They don't appear to be doing anything other than saying 'see I told you it would break' - I personally think they would be better off spending the bitching time actually fixing what they were ordered to do. Debugging is not suddenly impossible because Microsoft say so.
Often the --display (or -display) command works for many applications, providing both are running X.
firefox --display 192.168.0.4:0.0 Make sure xhost is set to deal with things first though - if your network is secure 'xhost +' is acceptable (otherwise the man page will be more specific)
Next they need to work on those Japanese, Korean, and Taiwanese buggers who advertise 24/7 on cable TV throughout asia - selling stuff like foot stickers to induce weight loss while on long flights.
(Dehydration accounts for this as a result of being in the upper atmosphere, not the sticker)
That would be a hit to the bottom line - Average User will just think the ISP is incompetent and find another, way before ever admitting their system has a problem.
Better to just silently block ports, open them only when people specifically ask - then monitor for abuse.
While the article is fully vague on the method of 'sending something back to the server' - I would imagine it uses the IP address of the system that connects to port 25, rather than care about the content - at least that's how I read it. (I did RTFA)
Are you always so negative? A PhD costs somewhere on the order of 4 to 7 years study. Not impossible, anyone with enough self motivation and desire can accomplish this. (And finances - this is the only big stopper for main stream educational institutions. The local library is often a perfect and free alternative however.)
Most of us are human beings, each with the same built in potential. Some take the leap and grab what makes them happy, others wither and die spending half their life putting food on the table, disliking it all the while.
'Native Talent' - while some have their hardware wired a little oddly - they might be shit hot at math, but have no clue about tying shoe laces. It's all relative.
If you don't find the answer there, then search around the w3c site - lots of cool stuff - if firefox doesn't conform, submit a bug report, or patch, or a few bucks to one of the maintainers.
Ease of use, just until you want to compile practically anything at all.
Someone else said it above - many distro's are going the way of 'limited edition' or 'professional' - to me this seems stupid - these companies are trying to make it appear as though there is a difference actually worth paying for. The linux (based distro) that I am used to has always included enough to compile at least the kernel - getting harder to find anything like that these days.
I'm sure someone will shoot holes in my argument, but the last version of Mandrake I downloaded (10.1) did not allow me to compile enlightenment out of the box (or with minimal effort finding dependencies) - so I dumped it - Fedora and Solaris for me, for now.
C&D does not mean you have to comply with 'random j laywer' - it just means you 'may' need to stop doing what you are doing. Nothing more, nothing less.
This guy would be wise to give nothing! Might also be wise to shut down the site, or at least change the name and a few graphics.
Slackware is difficult to configure for those new to linux. Same situation with the installer.
While some of us prefer it that way, I'm thinking the vast majority either don't have time, or simply have no interest in tweaking away at a hundred config files just to get things going.
Slackware is pretty good yes, but there are lots of things that are different - some better, some worse. (It's all subjective)
I can understand politicians twisting their will upon others, but the average American child is far from content listening to boring bible sermons. What do kids do these days anyway... By popular margin they most definitely do not go to church every Sunday morning.
Besides, should it ever come to pass that scientific view be ousted by religion - then 'those boring science people' will be the loud minority - speaking their words of precious logic. Mmmmmm. Science.
So how do you protect your power stations, and railways, and insert any other wide spread utility or service.
The first logical step is not to connect it to the internet. The next step is not to allow access by any device that has connected to the internet (Laptops, PDA's, etc.) Simple. No more network based terrorism from the outside.
(Other steps include staff vetting and monitoring blah blah - but that's beyond the scope of this reply)
This is a little off topic, and I heard it from a known stretcher of the truth, so YMMV. (This individual was not a government employee, just a tin-foil type)
(Apologies for my terminology) He said the NSA receives computers made from complete dies (the entire silver plate wired up in parallel or some such) and cooled by way of immersion in fluid. I was told these were used for decrypting GSM in real time.
From in house, I've never heard of such a beast, but I guess that doesn't mean it could not exist.
Is such a thing even possible??? I personally think it unlikely, otherwise it'd be quite wide spread considering where I've worked...
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Monitoring most voice and data communications has always involved capturing two individual pathways. (Radio signals, trunk lines, etc, etc.)
Often networking or geography prevent monitoring both sides by a single entity - more commonly the reply path is monitored by a remote site on the other side of the country/globe and matched back up after a short delay.
If fabrication were to occur (and I'm sure it has) then it wont be a new thing with VoXX, which itself has been around for a couple of decades now.
Any packet that travels across the major backbones can be stored for a period of time (or indefinitely, if found interesting)
The problem is twofold. First, the definition of VoIP. Is it in the literal sense of 'voice over tcp/ip' or does the protocol type not matter. It could leave holes in the law that mean law enforcement need not obtain a warrant for certain categories of monitoring.
Second issue is targetting. If a warrant is issued, will this provide detail on the target down to IP (or MAC) address, or will (as done currently) they simply store the entire datastream and use a series of human analysts to identify the target. (Meaning that there will be n+1 voice calls monitored while looking for target comms, only dropped when found to be not of interest, or not the target)
Where I'm at, the rule is straight forward - Two allied nationals - do not monitor, one allied and one foreign, monitor in full, do not log identity of allied individual unless on top 10^H^H 500 exemption list. Everything else is ok.
What if you have more than one viewer?
I'd do something similar with my old CRT trinitron screen, but it's too bloody heavy, and I'm too lazy :-)
Other than that, there's nothing worth seeing behind my screen, unless you find a few hundred wires and several inches of dust interesting.
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Agreed, though I was making reference to the 'weakest link' so to speak - that being the human operator.
What you say is entirely appropriate, and accurate.
Crypto systems do not always need to be brute forced: 'More often than not' it is a brain dead technician sending the keys across a timeplex, via satellite, and then over HF or something equally as silly, out to their remote site.
Key exchange is where the biggest failures occur (that I see). Many crypto systems still in use throughout this part of the world (still) work in a similar method to the old enigma typewriters - typically they are rapidly broken because they send identical messages using different keys, then send the same message in clear text via some other link.
This is all theory, but say you could instantly travel 14 billion light years to the horizon (as seen from earth)
What would you see? Another horizon a further 14 billion light years distant? My personal feeling is yes, and that the age of the universe is wrong - I don't subscribe to the big bang theory, relativity, or any other convenient explanations for this 'anomaly'. Nor do I believe in God.
I may be marked as troll, but I suspect there are many others with a similar view.
Incompetence doesn't matter - they have had long enough to sort through these issues - as someone else posed in the last microsoft thread, punishment is not meant to feel good.
I guess they need to get a few hundred more developers involved, work through these problems, release patches via windows update so everyone is ultimately happy(er). They don't appear to be doing anything other than saying 'see I told you it would break' - I personally think they would be better off spending the bitching time actually fixing what they were ordered to do. Debugging is not suddenly impossible because Microsoft say so.
What was that Canadian show - Maybe 'acme world of stuff' or similar - when I was young I thought that was pretty cool.
Often the --display (or -display) command works for many applications, providing both are running X.
firefox --display 192.168.0.4:0.0
Make sure xhost is set to deal with things first though - if your network is secure 'xhost +' is acceptable (otherwise the man page will be more specific)
Next they need to work on those Japanese, Korean, and Taiwanese buggers who advertise 24/7 on cable TV throughout asia - selling stuff like foot stickers to induce weight loss while on long flights.
(Dehydration accounts for this as a result of being in the upper atmosphere, not the sticker)
That would be a hit to the bottom line - Average User will just think the ISP is incompetent and find another, way before ever admitting their system has a problem.
Better to just silently block ports, open them only when people specifically ask - then monitor for abuse.
While the article is fully vague on the method of 'sending something back to the server' - I would imagine it uses the IP address of the system that connects to port 25, rather than care about the content - at least that's how I read it. (I did RTFA)
Are you always so negative? A PhD costs somewhere on the order of 4 to 7 years study. Not impossible, anyone with enough self motivation and desire can accomplish this. (And finances - this is the only big stopper for main stream educational institutions. The local library is often a perfect and free alternative however.)
Most of us are human beings, each with the same built in potential. Some take the leap and grab what makes them happy, others wither and die spending half their life putting food on the table, disliking it all the while.
'Native Talent' - while some have their hardware wired a little oddly - they might be shit hot at math, but have no clue about tying shoe laces. It's all relative.
I'm wondering if I'd want to pay for all 12 million episodes of 'The Bill' or 'EastEnders'
:-)
And if so, how much
I figure about a pound or so... (for all)
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/
If you don't find the answer there, then search around the w3c site - lots of cool stuff - if firefox doesn't conform, submit a bug report, or patch, or a few bucks to one of the maintainers.
Ease of use, just until you want to compile practically anything at all.
Someone else said it above - many distro's are going the way of 'limited edition' or 'professional' - to me this seems stupid - these companies are trying to make it appear as though there is a difference actually worth paying for. The linux (based distro) that I am used to has always included enough to compile at least the kernel - getting harder to find anything like that these days.
I'm sure someone will shoot holes in my argument, but the last version of Mandrake I downloaded (10.1) did not allow me to compile enlightenment out of the box (or with minimal effort finding dependencies) - so I dumped it - Fedora and Solaris for me, for now.
Speaking of slow, did extremetech just pull the article - I'm getting asp errors about 'file not found'
:-) Ok, I'll use google...
Mirrors?
C&D does not mean you have to comply with 'random j laywer' - it just means you 'may' need to stop doing what you are doing. Nothing more, nothing less.
This guy would be wise to give nothing! Might also be wise to shut down the site, or at least change the name and a few graphics.
Slackware is difficult to configure for those new to linux. Same situation with the installer.
While some of us prefer it that way, I'm thinking the vast majority either don't have time, or simply have no interest in tweaking away at a hundred config files just to get things going.
Slackware is pretty good yes, but there are lots of things that are different - some better, some worse. (It's all subjective)
I can understand politicians twisting their will upon others, but the average American child is far from content listening to boring bible sermons. What do kids do these days anyway... By popular margin they most definitely do not go to church every Sunday morning.
Besides, should it ever come to pass that scientific view be ousted by religion - then 'those boring science people' will be the loud minority - speaking their words of precious logic. Mmmmmm. Science.
So how do you protect your power stations, and railways, and insert any other wide spread utility or service.
The first logical step is not to connect it to the internet. The next step is not to allow access by any device that has connected to the internet (Laptops, PDA's, etc.) Simple. No more network based terrorism from the outside.
(Other steps include staff vetting and monitoring blah blah - but that's beyond the scope of this reply)
Agree, probably should have been more specific though - I heard this claim while working at the ADSCS in Geraldton Australia - 1998.
This is a little off topic, and I heard it from a known stretcher of the truth, so YMMV. (This individual was not a government employee, just a tin-foil type)
(Apologies for my terminology) He said the NSA receives computers made from complete dies (the entire silver plate wired up in parallel or some such) and cooled by way of immersion in fluid. I was told these were used for decrypting GSM in real time.
From in house, I've never heard of such a beast, but I guess that doesn't mean it could not exist.
Is such a thing even possible??? I personally think it unlikely, otherwise it'd be quite wide spread considering where I've worked...