The facts tend to get ignored on slashdot when it gives people an opportunity to have a go at the RIAA. Facts are only facts if they support your case apparently....
If you don't want the game.... err....... don't buy it?
And games are NOT mroe expensive now than they used to be. Console games might be, I wouldn't know, but PC games certainly arent more expensive in real terms.
Nobody forces you to buy these games you don't like. Go buy dwarf fortress, mount n blade, or heck, go buy my games, which heavily prioritize gameplay over graphics and are all under $23.
Some people love games like COD, and are happy to pay for them. I'm one of them. It's a free market and its a luxury good, people only charge what the customer will pay.
so what you are saying is that windows supports all of the file formats that 99% of people use? Whats wrong with that?
if they started bundling supprot to view every kind of file format into windows you would scream monopoly at them and complaint hey are putting adobe etc out of business.
monetize means earn money from. if you equate a game developer making money with 'screwing the customer', then I just feel sorry for you. Its attitudes like that that encourage games makers to not bother with the PC any more. How DARE PC gamer developers actually earn money????
says who? Ea aren't retards, they are the biggest games company in existence. They PAY for the RDM, and for their customer service reps. if they think they could get away with ditching DRM tomorrow they would. Personally, I think they *could* ditch it tomorrow, and not hurt sales, but they seem to disagree.
Anyway you look at it, jerks like that kid on thepiratebay saying "everyone make this the most pirated game ever!" are NOT going to get DRM removed.
The success of stardock and similar companies will do more to persuade EA they don't need DRM then any amount of name calling or piracy of EA titles will.
Oh I see. so if 50% of the creative people in the world give it up to go work as a plumber, that's just FINE because YOU got to feel ok about taking music for free. How pathetic.
Bullshit. If you watch Spiderman 3 and you are inspired to create an action hero and make a movie go for it. Have fun. But to use this to rationalize you just copying a rip of a DVD to watch it on your sofa whilst munching pretzels is just laughable.
Don't try and justify wholesale copying of other peoples work for entertainment, with the totally separate argument concerning trademarks and patents
LOL. so someone like me who earns his living from IP, can just go suffer, whereas joe bloggs who works as a car salesman gets the full force of the law to defend his interests? What sort of fucked up logic is that. what are you smoking?
Do you REALLY think that the proportion of the population who earn a living from IP is going to go up or down as you grow up?
Its amazing what bullshit people will rationalise if it lets them take music for free...
It's truly sad if the USA has a revolution, not because of stuff like the sub prime disaster or Enron, or the Iraq war fiasco or the pathetic situation regarding state health care, or income inequality or Katrina or the governments inaction on climate change or support for creationism........ but because a lot of geeks think they should have free MP3s.
who is this 'we'. You claim to speak for everyone on slashdot as hating copyright and loving the right wing criminals behind thepiratebay? (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/07/pirate_bay_accepted_right_wing_money/) Think again.
or you could just buy the music you want to listen to, and support the artists who recorded it? A lot simpler, fairer and more reasonable way to live surely?
Explain to me why the cops arrest me when I walk out of walmart without paying. Why should taxpayers and the police help prop up walmarts business model?
I'm not sure I see the difference. In both cases the law is being upheld by the authorities. And if anyone has an outdated business model it's bricks and mortar stores that require me to get in a car and physically shuffle around an inefficiently laid out showroom every week to select groceries.
agreed. What is exactly is the point of posting this? encouraging a nice group-hug by people who hate microsoft? We get it, you don't like a certain software company. Move on.
"I just find it offensive for a woman who was once poor, and who knows what poverty is, who is now a gazillionaire, to prevent some other person from trying to make a living"
oh for fucks sake grow up. If you can hide your jealous class-war venom for five minutes and take a look at the actual facts of the case you would see that this guy isn't 'trying to make a living' any more than thepiratebay are. He is just taking someone else's hard work, repackaging it and hoping to cash in. If he really wants to be inspired by JKR, he should write his own original novel like she did.
It's good to see your own anti-copyright anti-corporate snide jealousy finally outed for what it is here on slashdot.
wtf? this is a bunch of lunatics sending out false DMCA notices. it doesn't mean the DMCA is bad, in fact it just highlights the GOOD things about the DMCA, the fact that there are prescribed penalties for filing false reports, which is exactly as it should be.
Indeed, you are right. I tend to deal with companies that provide very good tech and customer support, so it's easy for me to forget just how clueless and anti-consumer some of the big companies are.
I still don't think that pirating the game gets the message across at all, that's why I ranted under the post that links to thepiratebay. Anyone who thinks TPB is going to persuade companies to abandon DRM is wrong. Quite the reverse, it just persuades more company execs that all PC gamers are pirates.
The positive news stories about successful drm-free games are more effective than the negative stories about how games get pirated despite the DRM. Imagine how persuasive an anti_DRM stance it would be if NOBODY had bothered to crack or pirate the game, or buy it either, as a protest because of the DRM.
True, it's absolutely fucking inexcusable in this day and age for anyone to run a business when they don't let their customers have an easy, user-friendly way to communicate directly with the company. Why on earth do companies NOT want to know what potential buyers think?
Voting with your wallet means giving the game a miss entirely. downloading a pirated copy will just persuade EA they need stronger copy protection next time. I don't mind the DRM myself, and I bought a copy, but I understand why people may be influenced against doing so.
Excellent point. This is a very silly way to 'protest' about DRM. The best way to get companies to stop using DRM is to reason with them, contact them, and let them know how you feel. I can tell you 100% that no matter how many people would pirate my games, it wouldn't convince me to abandon DRM. What convinced me to do it was actually reading through what the people had to say when they emailed me on the topic.
All rating the game badly will do is make amazon's ratings look unusable, piss off everyone who worked on the game (many of which oppose DRM no doubt), and reinforce the mentality that those who oppose DRM are doing so for childish reasons. Well-thought out, considered and intelligent emails to the publishers and developers will achieve a hundred times more, as will boycotting the game (both legal and illegal copies) and only purchasing DRM-free games.
such things are easily found ion legal sites with the blessing of the copyright holder. Don't kid yourself people go to isohunt to download a PDF of a movie review using bit-torrent.
you do realise that 99.9999% of websites have no such worries, because they don't build their entire business model around distributing copyrighted content...
isohunt isn't billed as the #1 site for linux distros!!!!! Its clearly full of copyrighted content and they know it. No surprise they realise they are one lawsuit away from some heavy shit.
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The facts tend to get ignored on slashdot when it gives people an opportunity to have a go at the RIAA. Facts are only facts if they support your case apparently....
If you don't want the game.... err....... don't buy it?
And games are NOT mroe expensive now than they used to be. Console games might be, I wouldn't know, but PC games certainly arent more expensive in real terms.
Nobody forces you to buy these games you don't like. Go buy dwarf fortress, mount n blade, or heck, go buy my games, which heavily prioritize gameplay over graphics and are all under $23.
Some people love games like COD, and are happy to pay for them. I'm one of them. It's a free market and its a luxury good, people only charge what the customer will pay.
so what you are saying is that windows supports all of the file formats that 99% of people use?
Whats wrong with that?
if they started bundling supprot to view every kind of file format into windows you would scream monopoly at them and complaint hey are putting adobe etc out of business.
monetize means earn money from. if you equate a game developer making money with 'screwing the customer', then I just feel sorry for you.
Its attitudes like that that encourage games makers to not bother with the PC any more.
How DARE PC gamer developers actually earn money????
what in the posters list of beliefs is NOT a part of Christianity?
You DO believe in the bible still right?
gah, should be DRM, not RDM. bloody lack of edit thing :D
says who?
Ea aren't retards, they are the biggest games company in existence. They PAY for the RDM, and for their customer service reps. if they think they could get away with ditching DRM tomorrow they would. Personally, I think they *could* ditch it tomorrow, and not hurt sales, but they seem to disagree.
Anyway you look at it, jerks like that kid on thepiratebay saying "everyone make this the most pirated game ever!" are NOT going to get DRM removed.
The success of stardock and similar companies will do more to persuade EA they don't need DRM then any amount of name calling or piracy of EA titles will.
Oh I see. so if 50% of the creative people in the world give it up to go work as a plumber, that's just FINE because YOU got to feel ok about taking music for free.
How pathetic.
Bullshit. If you watch Spiderman 3 and you are inspired to create an action hero and make a movie go for it. Have fun. But to use this to rationalize you just copying a rip of a DVD to watch it on your sofa whilst munching pretzels is just laughable.
Don't try and justify wholesale copying of other peoples work for entertainment, with the totally separate argument concerning trademarks and patents
LOL.
so someone like me who earns his living from IP, can just go suffer, whereas joe bloggs who works as a car salesman gets the full force of the law to defend his interests?
What sort of fucked up logic is that. what are you smoking?
Do you REALLY think that the proportion of the population who earn a living from IP is going to go up or down as you grow up?
Its amazing what bullshit people will rationalise if it lets them take music for free...
It's truly sad if the USA has a revolution, not because of stuff like the sub prime disaster or Enron, or the Iraq war fiasco or the pathetic situation regarding state health care, or income inequality or Katrina or the governments inaction on climate change or support for creationism..... ... but because a lot of geeks think they should have free MP3s.
who is this 'we'. You claim to speak for everyone on slashdot as hating copyright and loving the right wing criminals behind thepiratebay?
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/07/pirate_bay_accepted_right_wing_money/)
Think again.
or you could just buy the music you want to listen to, and support the artists who recorded it?
A lot simpler, fairer and more reasonable way to live surely?
Explain to me why the cops arrest me when I walk out of walmart without paying. Why should taxpayers and the police help prop up walmarts business model?
I'm not sure I see the difference. In both cases the law is being upheld by the authorities. And if anyone has an outdated business model it's bricks and mortar stores that require me to get in a car and physically shuffle around an inefficiently laid out showroom every week to select groceries.
agreed. What is exactly is the point of posting this? encouraging a nice group-hug by people who hate microsoft?
We get it, you don't like a certain software company. Move on.
that would be the judge and J.K Rowling. clearly not you.
"I just find it offensive for a woman who was once poor, and who knows what poverty is, who is now a gazillionaire, to prevent some other person from trying to make a living"
oh for fucks sake grow up. If you can hide your jealous class-war venom for five minutes and take a look at the actual facts of the case you would see that this guy isn't 'trying to make a living' any more than thepiratebay are. He is just taking someone else's hard work, repackaging it and hoping to cash in.
If he really wants to be inspired by JKR, he should write his own original novel like she did.
It's good to see your own anti-copyright anti-corporate snide jealousy finally outed for what it is here on slashdot.
do you have a single legit incident of someone contesting one which was not upheld?
wtf? this is a bunch of lunatics sending out false DMCA notices. it doesn't mean the DMCA is bad, in fact it just highlights the GOOD things about the DMCA, the fact that there are prescribed penalties for filing false reports, which is exactly as it should be.
Indeed, you are right. I tend to deal with companies that provide very good tech and customer support, so it's easy for me to forget just how clueless and anti-consumer some of the big companies are.
I still don't think that pirating the game gets the message across at all, that's why I ranted under the post that links to thepiratebay. Anyone who thinks TPB is going to persuade companies to abandon DRM is wrong. Quite the reverse, it just persuades more company execs that all PC gamers are pirates.
The positive news stories about successful drm-free games are more effective than the negative stories about how games get pirated despite the DRM. Imagine how persuasive an anti_DRM stance it would be if NOBODY had bothered to crack or pirate the game, or buy it either, as a protest because of the DRM.
True, it's absolutely fucking inexcusable in this day and age for anyone to run a business when they don't let their customers have an easy, user-friendly way to communicate directly with the company.
Why on earth do companies NOT want to know what potential buyers think?
Voting with your wallet means giving the game a miss entirely. downloading a pirated copy will just persuade EA they need stronger copy protection next time. I don't mind the DRM myself, and I bought a copy, but I understand why people may be influenced against doing so.
Excellent point. This is a very silly way to 'protest' about DRM. The best way to get companies to stop using DRM is to reason with them, contact them, and let them know how you feel. I can tell you 100% that no matter how many people would pirate my games, it wouldn't convince me to abandon DRM. What convinced me to do it was actually reading through what the people had to say when they emailed me on the topic.
All rating the game badly will do is make amazon's ratings look unusable, piss off everyone who worked on the game (many of which oppose DRM no doubt), and reinforce the mentality that those who oppose DRM are doing so for childish reasons. Well-thought out, considered and intelligent emails to the publishers and developers will achieve a hundred times more, as will boycotting the game (both legal and illegal copies) and only purchasing DRM-free games.
so you are saying that none of the products sold through steam are found on isohunt?
hahahahahahahaha
such things are easily found ion legal sites with the blessing of the copyright holder. Don't kid yourself people go to isohunt to download a PDF of a movie review using bit-torrent.
The defence of this stuff is laughable.
you do realise that 99.9999% of websites have no such worries, because they don't build their entire business model around distributing copyrighted content...
isohunt isn't billed as the #1 site for linux distros!!!!!
Its clearly full of copyrighted content and they know it. No surprise they realise they are one lawsuit away from some heavy shit.