take a look at 'civony' the copyright infringing free-to-play crappy MMO that is advertising all over the net. A total fucking timesink designed purely to aggravate players into paying to avoid the drudgery of the gameplay.
Thats your future business model kid, And you are fucking welcome to it.
Its sad that immature snarky drivel like yours is considered insightful by the groupthink pirates here. Guess what kiddies, content developers don't make content for people like you any more, you have made yourselves truly fucking irrelevant.
Typical slashdotter, you cant compute that people might think for themselves and not agree with the retarded PIRACY FTW!!!!!! bullshit that has become the dominant meme here...
so the musicians in metallica were born able to play like that, and write songs like that? What total fucking arrogance. I guess that you don't think lawyers should reap any benefit from the years studying the law, and that artists shouldn't reap any benefit from 20 years learning to paint?
Your piost is an arrogant, retarded insult to anyone who has worked for years to hone a skill.
'file-sharing' is the new cuddly way to avoid admitting that it's theft. In other news, car-jacking is to be called 'motor-car scrumping', hence making it seem socially acceptable.
I agree 100%, but you are already moderated troll.
I'd be happier if the pirate party re-branded itself the 'lets kill off the digital entertainment industry' party, because that is the upshot of their 'policies'. I'm a very liberal voter who supports freedom of information, and strong consumer and individual rights and freedoms and privacy...
However, I can't possibly equate that with some crap about 'copyright being evil'. Copyright is a totally different issue to freedom and privacy. An attempt to wrap up the 'lets all take stuff for free' ideology with some cuddly stuff about privacy is simplistic and silly. It's sad so many people fall for it.
What bullshit. The UK has a huge IP industry, movies, books, TV, software, games... HAs it occured to you that we lose out as a nation by people outside the UK pirating that content rather than buying it? Sorry to interrupt your "content producers are evil" bullshit.
I agree 100%, but you will get little support here. The groupthink at slashdot is that content producers are evil scumbags trying to rape everyones daughters.
Apparently we are ignorant, and if we had the common sense of a slashdot geek in his moms basement, we would embrace the new business model of working for free.
Of course, that business model only works in moms basement, which is why its only hailed here on/.
indeed. its money for old rope. Absolutely everyone who produces entertianment content is a millioanire and lives in a gold plated house. No movie, game or tv show ever lost money, and we are all just pretendind that piracy costs people jobs. In fact, the absolute guarntee of a 500% ROI is a genuine fact, despite the fact that this is in complete contravention of basic high school economics, because if it were true, you, and every other slashdotter would be falling over themselves to start up movie studios.
"I like to think of myself as someone who wanders past the security guards the local food store employs. Have walmart got enough money? Wal-mart don't care about fairness, how can I be expected to queue up to pay when I can just shoplift..."
Face facts. if you had to look the content creator in the eye every time you pirated, you wouldn't take jack shit. This is just the usual bullshit to paper over that part of your conscience that gets pricked when you realise you are helping yourself to other peoples work.
Because when the end user is the one who is prosecuted (like Jammie Thomas) there is no end of shouting and whining about TEH MAFIAAAAA and so on.
You cant moan that they should tackle the website hosters, but get upset when its thepiratebay, moan they should prosecute the end users, but get upset when its jammie thomas, and moan its the isps fault, but get upset when they go after the ISP.
Who exactly *is* to blame? Will people try and stick to one story?
Steam is an online publisher. They take a cut off the money and decide what goes on the virtual shelf. How is this so different (apart from the production financing) to a normal publisher?
games are luxury items used for recreation. If you don't like them, don't buy them. I don't like avocados, but I don't scream at avocado growers and call them bastards.
Lots of people buy games, happily, and enjoy them. The games are probably not aimed at you. Screaming at the makers and describing their product as effluence just illustrates that not only are you not the target market, you don't seem capable of rationally dealing with that.
why bother? if music has no value to you, why give a fuck when its free? Or are you so bored that your time is absolutely totally and utterly worthless?
I could argue that to inherit property is morally and ethically wrong and hurts society as a whole ( I believe this is true). So your inherited house should be free for the taking.
Just asserting that something should be free does not mean it is true. Land is a limited commodity, and most people who inherit it did fuck all to deserve it. Digital entertainment is neither necessary for survival, nor limited in totality, and yet somehow its wrong to retain ownership of that, and right to retain ownership of land???
Why would they? What people say they want and what they actually want are different things. You would have thought hat a company like stardock,. who provide (as I do) DRM_free games that you can buy direct and download, would not be victim to piracy? Think again, over 90% of people playing their latest game are pirates (their figures) and the pirates actually ruined the multiplayer launch of the game.
Some companies have tried to meet that demand, and few of them have good news about how it went. The only companies doing well are those like Blizzard, and other MMOs, who ensure payment by tying their products to an online service.
The world-wide web buzz is "give us what we want and we will buy it". The reality is "if there is anyway we can pirate it, we will.".
Smart business people look at the figures, not the rhetoric.
maybe the answer to "why"? is because there are people who work for years to make all that stuff, and those people have the same bills to pay that you and I do?
Just a thought.
But if you expect that musicians, game developers and movie production staff will all have to work for you for free in future, my only response is "why?"
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take a look at 'civony' the copyright infringing free-to-play crappy MMO that is advertising all over the net.
A total fucking timesink designed purely to aggravate players into paying to avoid the drudgery of the gameplay.
Thats your future business model kid, And you are fucking welcome to it.
Its sad that immature snarky drivel like yours is considered insightful by the groupthink pirates here.
Guess what kiddies, content developers don't make content for people like you any more, you have made yourselves truly fucking irrelevant.
Typical slashdotter, you cant compute that people might think for themselves and not agree with the retarded PIRACY FTW!!!!!! bullshit that has become the dominant meme here...
omfg.
so the musicians in metallica were born able to play like that, and write songs like that?
What total fucking arrogance.
I guess that you don't think lawyers should reap any benefit from the years studying the law, and that artists shouldn't reap any benefit from 20 years learning to paint?
Your piost is an arrogant, retarded insult to anyone who has worked for years to hone a skill.
how do the people who produce anything creative pay the bills? with space dust?
Its scares me that people think bullshit like yours makes sense.
I'm a content provider. I make games and sell them. Explain to me how I am an irrlevant middleman.
Who makes my games? pixies from space?
BTW, as a content producer, I disagree that p2p helps me in an way. In fact, I strongly refute that.
But as an angti-piracy poster here, I'll get modded as troll in the hope nobody will read a dissenting view on slashdot.
'file-sharing' is the new cuddly way to avoid admitting that it's theft.
In other news, car-jacking is to be called 'motor-car scrumping', hence making it seem socially acceptable.
I agree 100%, but you are already moderated troll.
I'd be happier if the pirate party re-branded itself the 'lets kill off the digital entertainment industry' party, because that is the upshot of their 'policies'.
I'm a very liberal voter who supports freedom of information, and strong consumer and individual rights and freedoms and privacy...
However, I can't possibly equate that with some crap about 'copyright being evil'. Copyright is a totally different issue to freedom and privacy. An attempt to wrap up the 'lets all take stuff for free' ideology with some cuddly stuff about privacy is simplistic and silly. It's sad so many people fall for it.
What bullshit.
The UK has a huge IP industry, movies, books, TV, software, games...
HAs it occured to you that we lose out as a nation by people outside the UK pirating that content rather than buying it?
Sorry to interrupt your "content producers are evil" bullshit.
I agree 100%, but you will get little support here. The groupthink at slashdot is that content producers are evil scumbags trying to rape everyones daughters.
Apparently we are ignorant, and if we had the common sense of a slashdot geek in his moms basement, we would embrace the new business model of working for free.
Of course, that business model only works in moms basement, which is why its only hailed here on /.
indeed. its money for old rope. Absolutely everyone who produces entertianment content is a millioanire and lives in a gold plated house.
No movie, game or tv show ever lost money, and we are all just pretendind that piracy costs people jobs.
In fact, the absolute guarntee of a 500% ROI is a genuine fact, despite the fact that this is in complete contravention of basic high school economics, because if it were true, you, and every other slashdotter would be falling over themselves to start up movie studios.
*sigh*
spoken by someone whose job isnt on the line as people take their work for free, I'm sure...
"I like to think of myself as someone who wanders past the security guards the local food store employs. Have walmart got enough money?
Wal-mart don't care about fairness, how can I be expected to queue up to pay when I can just shoplift..."
Face facts. if you had to look the content creator in the eye every time you pirated, you wouldn't take jack shit. This is just the usual bullshit to paper over that part of your conscience that gets pricked when you realise you are helping yourself to other peoples work.
Sounds ideal.
I can't wait to see schindlers list, sponsored by pepsi. I'm sure that will be an awesome film.
On the other hand we could..you know.. actually pay people who entertain us, just like me pay people who make our food, our cars and our homes?
And that will get rid of people who make content and use the proceeds to pay the bills, such as everyone I know who works creating computer games.
And people like you will whine like children that "all teh games are teh shit now. They were so much better back then.."
Why are you so incapable of seeing what the result of your dreams of a copyright free world lead to? it is NOT rocket science.
Because when the end user is the one who is prosecuted (like Jammie Thomas) there is no end of shouting and whining about TEH MAFIAAAAA and so on.
You cant moan that they should tackle the website hosters, but get upset when its thepiratebay, moan they should prosecute the end users, but get upset when its jammie thomas, and moan its the isps fault, but get upset when they go after the ISP.
Who exactly *is* to blame?
Will people try and stick to one story?
Steam is an online publisher.
They take a cut off the money and decide what goes on the virtual shelf. How is this so different (apart from the production financing) to a normal publisher?
translation:
"Wah wah wah"
games are luxury items used for recreation. If you don't like them, don't buy them. I don't like avocados, but I don't scream at avocado growers and call them bastards.
Lots of people buy games, happily, and enjoy them. The games are probably not aimed at you.
Screaming at the makers and describing their product as effluence just illustrates that not only are you not the target market, you don't seem capable of rationally dealing with that.
so they played a pre-release incomplete version with half the content missing, and bitched that it was no good.
*sigh*...
You don't have to assume all PC games use DRM. ReclaimYourGame lists companies not using any form of securom etc. here is the link:
http://reclaimyourgame.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=14&Itemid=62
Disclaimer: I'm one of the companies on there.
why bother?
if music has no value to you, why give a fuck when its free?
Or are you so bored that your time is absolutely totally and utterly worthless?
Wake me up when musicians rent is free.
ok...
Most games DO have demos
most games are much cheaper than $60.
The idea that only $60+ games with no demos get pirated is just silly.
Are you pretending that if the pirate scum hadn't all tried to play demigod things wouldn't have worked fine?
"should be free for the taking"
says who?
I could argue that to inherit property is morally and ethically wrong and hurts society as a whole ( I believe this is true). So your inherited house should be free for the taking.
Just asserting that something should be free does not mean it is true. Land is a limited commodity, and most people who inherit it did fuck all to deserve it. Digital entertainment is neither necessary for survival, nor limited in totality, and yet somehow its wrong to retain ownership of that, and right to retain ownership of land???
Why would they? What people say they want and what they actually want are different things. You would have thought hat a company like stardock,. who provide (as I do) DRM_free games that you can buy direct and download, would not be victim to piracy?
Think again, over 90% of people playing their latest game are pirates (their figures) and the pirates actually ruined the multiplayer launch of the game.
Some companies have tried to meet that demand, and few of them have good news about how it went. The only companies doing well are those like Blizzard, and other MMOs, who ensure payment by tying their products to an online service.
The world-wide web buzz is "give us what we want and we will buy it". The reality is "if there is anyway we can pirate it, we will.".
Smart business people look at the figures, not the rhetoric.
maybe the answer to "why"? is because there are people who work for years to make all that stuff, and those people have the same bills to pay that you and I do?
Just a thought.
But if you expect that musicians, game developers and movie production staff will all have to work for you for free in future, my only response is "why?"
Awesome.
So we are going to move to a system of wealthy peoples patronage again?
I have 100% faith in the music, movie and video-games tastes of wealthy middle-aged men. Do you?