whats your problem exactly? im not throwing around communist as an insult, but you probably assume that, if your an american. This kind of desire for everything people make to be free IS communism. try reading up on it before you wade in.
and the people making that art were paid for their work by wealthy people. They still did not work for free. Nice try, but not vaguely comparable to justifying some clueless 13 year old downlaoding DVDS.
some stuff is created without an expectation of financial reward. whoopy do. the vast majority does not fall into this category. There are no open-source hobbyist drug companies that I know of that are making strides towards cures of major diseases. Those activities cost a fortune, and require a huge workforce, those people need to pay their rent. Same with big movies. The existance of some small amateur movies that have very little exposure is truivial in comparison with the big name movies that cost millions to make. Just because the end result of 200 people working for 3 years can be burned onto a single DVD, does not mean it should be freely available to all. If it is, thsoe people dont get paid and wont make another movie. Even if the director and actros would do it for nothing, the set designers, carpenters, caterers, publicists, continuity staff and costume makers won't. Pretending that we can all switch over to a system where nobody is paid to generate information is just plain stupid, and is the weak argument trotted out by people only too happy to steal commercial work of others.
what bullshit. So why exactly would anyone on earth ever develop intellectual property of any kind ever again? well done, you just blew out of the water any chance of us discovering a cure for cancer,aids,alzehimers, or any disease you care to name. Ditto the death of the movie industry, book industry, game industry and software industry. People have owned information since the concept of ownership existed. the only difference now, is that with digital copying, and the web, thieves think they can get away with it. If someone creates something, even if its digital information and wants to sell it, you have no right to take it without paying. If you assume you do, that makes you a communist, which is ok if you believe in it, but at least admit it. or grow up and admit you steal because your too tight assed to pay for stuff.
of course. thats why maddona and elton john are penniless. They get a bad deal, but they dont get NO deal. Pretending its ok to pirate because the artists gets NOTHING. is just silly.
cool it with the smug saracasm, mr coward. has it occured to you that it is possible to hear that your bank has frozen other peoples accounts without good reason, but NOT yours?
Im fairly high on the trek geek scale. I use a klingon daqh-tagh knife to open letters with. But I doubt I'll play this. Why?
federation only.
They offer up excuses, but basically its so they can cash in with race-specific expansion packs. I'd love to be a Jem hadar,Ferengi or a klinogn, but federation? yawnsville. LucasArts have the right idea, their new lego game covers all 3 original movies in one game, plus its actuaklly fun. I cant see trek online lasting long.
Seriously, its easy. It always amazes me how many people complain about their banks, but never change. I swapped from the evil NatWest to Smile (www.smile.co.uk) about 10 years ago. Couldnt be happier, and it was a trivial change, the incoming bank wants your custom, they will always arrange all your standing orders and direct debits etc to be changed over easily. Banks don't control you. You are the customer. If they annoy you, just leave.
you missed out picking a winner based on the popular vote. I still don't see how an electoral college system can be described as a democracy. We have a similar travesty in the UK, where the government was elected with a pathetic fraction of the votes, just the right votes, in the right places. I dont see how either the UK or the USA can call themselves a democracy, when they have such flawed systems. Surely the guy with most votes should win right?
Theres not many videos on youtube I'd pay to view, and ads would certainly wind me up big time, but if they charged me say $20 a year for unlimited site access, I'd happily pay up, I get $20 worth of laughs just from watching TV bloopers. This assumption that ads will save all web companies is flawed. the existance of technology like adblock renders it useless in some cases, and there are only so many advertising dollars to go around. If subscription doesnt work, then paying to be the top video in categories might work too, but as a 'consumer' i'd prefer that the top videos were independetly ranked, rather than just bought up by Sony and Pepsi.
yeah kinda weird isnt it. I have a legit copy of windows, it came with my PC preinstalled, exactly as I, the customer, wanted it. I dont mind paying for it, because I get a hell of a lot for my money, and its my O/S of choice. I've done enough coding to appreciate the shedloads of work that went into Windows XP, and dont resent the cost of it. If microsoft won't let me get patches without checking I paid for it, thats absolutely fine. I do exactly the same with the software I sell. Rather than have to dig out obscure articles and registry hacks, and other dubious workarounds, when I see the WGA prompt I just click yes. A lot less hassle. Lifes actually pretty simple when you pay for the software you use every day.
eh? there are dozens of music companies, if not hundreds, and thousands of bands, plus thousands of retail and online stores selling music, often competing opn price. How is this vaguely communism?
In fact, making everything people produced a public good (free exchange of music), THAT is communism. Seriously.
There already exists a method of democratically assigning rewards to those people who create the most popular works. It's called the free market, and it worked fine until piracy exploded on the web.
Photocopiers were (and are) expensive, and the paper costs money. video tapes cost money and VCR duplicators were expensive. Bit torrent and a hard drive are not expensive, practically free. Thats the HUGE difference between then and now. Even if I'd wanted to copy a novel for 2,000 friends in a week, it would cost be big time in money and effort. I can distribute photoshop to 2000 people while Im asleep or even while Im web surfing. Piracy ahs always existed in a small, tolerable sense. the existanc of p2p file sharing and (arguabley worse) the cultural belief that its not harmful, is pushing that piracy to a level where its starting to make the entire entertainment business model fall to bits. Thats not good news, unless you never want to read a new book, listen to new music, or use new software / games.
Do you have any idea how paranoid this sounds to someone not from the USA? Jesus christ, you cant suggest the government legislates on energy efficiency without being labelled a communist. You are aware that your government legislates on minimum safety / health/ energy standards on a whole ton of products right? You realise you cant build schools with asbestos in the walls anymore right? but why not? Hey, lets just leave it to the free market right. And what about drugs? thats just some evil commie pinko legisltaion right there. lets legalise heroin and let the free market decide if it a good product or not right? And weapons? I dont see why some pinko commie hippie should prevent me buying my own apache gunship helicopter to hunt deer with right? etc etc etc
get some perspective. The govt taxing or legislating so that people make purchasing choices that benefit the environment is NOT communism, in fact its a big part of what government does. Do you think the establishment of national parks was some evil communist plot too?
calm down tiger. this isnt exactly facism or communism. The govt mandates minimum efficiency standards for automobiles (although they are patheticly low), why cant it set a similar standard for lightbulbs, at a level which rules out incandecents? Whether you like it or not, the status quo is not working well. people are *not* switching.
I've never ever changed one of these bulbs, in my experience they last at least 3 years, probably a lot longer. It sounds more like you have a wiring problem in your house. I know that years abck when we had some halogen bulbs, if one of them went, it would take a few others with it.
I don't understand why governments don't just ban the sale of old fashioned incandescent style bulbs, or at the very least whack a huge 1000% tax on the damn things. Does anyone know why they won't do this? I bet a few lightbulb companies are worried about declining sales when people realise the efficient ones last way longer. Unless your worried about electricity company shares or work in an ancandescent bulb factory, its insane not to want the old style bulbs phased out immediately. Why isnt this done?
im not 'intefering with you'. As a content creator, if you dont like the terms under which I provide entertainment, shop elsewhere and stop whining. Its like paying for a cinema ticket then complaining because you were thrown out for shouting during the movie. We all accept basic terms of behaviour when we purchase entertainment. This isnt food or shelter, nobody forces you to buy the new King Kong DVD, so if you dont like the terms of the deal, keep your money, but dont steal it and THEN whine about it. That makes no sense. Nobody is stopping you creating your own music or films and giving them away free. go for it.
yawn. What have i done to deserve this torrent of abuse from you exactly? Dare to suggest people shgould pay for entertainment? oooh what a bastard eh?
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whats your problem exactly? im not throwing around communist as an insult, but you probably assume that, if your an american. This kind of desire for everything people make to be free IS communism. try reading up on it before you wade in.
and the people making that art were paid for their work by wealthy people. They still did not work for free.
Nice try, but not vaguely comparable to justifying some clueless 13 year old downlaoding DVDS.
some stuff is created without an expectation of financial reward. whoopy do. the vast majority does not fall into this category. There are no open-source hobbyist drug companies that I know of that are making strides towards cures of major diseases. Those activities cost a fortune, and require a huge workforce, those people need to pay their rent. Same with big movies. The existance of some small amateur movies that have very little exposure is truivial in comparison with the big name movies that cost millions to make.
Just because the end result of 200 people working for 3 years can be burned onto a single DVD, does not mean it should be freely available to all. If it is, thsoe people dont get paid and wont make another movie. Even if the director and actros would do it for nothing, the set designers, carpenters, caterers, publicists, continuity staff and costume makers won't.
Pretending that we can all switch over to a system where nobody is paid to generate information is just plain stupid, and is the weak argument trotted out by people only too happy to steal commercial work of others.
what bullshit. So why exactly would anyone on earth ever develop intellectual property of any kind ever again?
well done, you just blew out of the water any chance of us discovering a cure for cancer,aids,alzehimers, or any disease you care to name. Ditto the death of the movie industry, book industry, game industry and software industry.
People have owned information since the concept of ownership existed. the only difference now, is that with digital copying, and the web, thieves think they can get away with it.
If someone creates something, even if its digital information and wants to sell it, you have no right to take it without paying. If you assume you do, that makes you a communist, which is ok if you believe in it, but at least admit it.
or grow up and admit you steal because your too tight assed to pay for stuff.
of course. thats why maddona and elton john are penniless.
They get a bad deal, but they dont get NO deal. Pretending its ok to pirate because the artists gets NOTHING. is just silly.
cool it with the smug saracasm, mr coward. has it occured to you that it is possible to hear that your bank has frozen other peoples accounts without good reason, but NOT yours?
Im fairly high on the trek geek scale. I use a klingon daqh-tagh knife to open letters with. But I doubt I'll play this. Why?
federation only.
They offer up excuses, but basically its so they can cash in with race-specific expansion packs.
I'd love to be a Jem hadar,Ferengi or a klinogn, but federation? yawnsville.
LucasArts have the right idea, their new lego game covers all 3 original movies in one game, plus its actuaklly fun.
I cant see trek online lasting long.
Seriously, its easy. It always amazes me how many people complain about their banks, but never change. I swapped from the evil NatWest to Smile (www.smile.co.uk) about 10 years ago. Couldnt be happier, and it was a trivial change, the incoming bank wants your custom, they will always arrange all your standing orders and direct debits etc to be changed over easily.
Banks don't control you. You are the customer. If they annoy you, just leave.
one day maybe. hey it still sells. Go on, its only the price of a pizza :D
you missed out picking a winner based on the popular vote. I still don't see how an electoral college system can be described as a democracy. We have a similar travesty in the UK, where the government was elected with a pathetic fraction of the votes, just the right votes, in the right places.
I dont see how either the UK or the USA can call themselves a democracy, when they have such flawed systems.
Surely the guy with most votes should win right?
Theres not many videos on youtube I'd pay to view, and ads would certainly wind me up big time, but if they charged me say $20 a year for unlimited site access, I'd happily pay up, I get $20 worth of laughs just from watching TV bloopers.
This assumption that ads will save all web companies is flawed. the existance of technology like adblock renders it useless in some cases, and there are only so many advertising dollars to go around.
If subscription doesnt work, then paying to be the top video in categories might work too, but as a 'consumer' i'd prefer that the top videos were independetly ranked, rather than just bought up by Sony and Pepsi.
yawnsville.
yeah kinda weird isnt it. I have a legit copy of windows, it came with my PC preinstalled, exactly as I, the customer, wanted it. I dont mind paying for it, because I get a hell of a lot for my money, and its my O/S of choice. I've done enough coding to appreciate the shedloads of work that went into Windows XP, and dont resent the cost of it. If microsoft won't let me get patches without checking I paid for it, thats absolutely fine. I do exactly the same with the software I sell. Rather than have to dig out obscure articles and registry hacks, and other dubious workarounds, when I see the WGA prompt I just click yes. A lot less hassle.
Lifes actually pretty simple when you pay for the software you use every day.
agreed 100%. Theres no excuse for ads in games. we play games to escape the flipping real world, not to see which brand of cola is hip.
eh?
there are dozens of music companies, if not hundreds, and thousands of bands, plus thousands of retail and online stores selling music, often competing opn price. How is this vaguely communism?
In fact, making everything people produced a public good (free exchange of music), THAT is communism. Seriously.
how do you 'perform' photoshop then?
There already exists a method of democratically assigning rewards to those people who create the most popular works.
It's called the free market, and it worked fine until piracy exploded on the web.
Photocopiers were (and are) expensive, and the paper costs money. video tapes cost money and VCR duplicators were expensive. Bit torrent and a hard drive are not expensive, practically free.
Thats the HUGE difference between then and now. Even if I'd wanted to copy a novel for 2,000 friends in a week, it would cost be big time in money and effort. I can distribute photoshop to 2000 people while Im asleep or even while Im web surfing.
Piracy ahs always existed in a small, tolerable sense. the existanc of p2p file sharing and (arguabley worse) the cultural belief that its not harmful, is pushing that piracy to a level where its starting to make the entire entertainment business model fall to bits.
Thats not good news, unless you never want to read a new book, listen to new music, or use new software / games.
Do you have any idea how paranoid this sounds to someone not from the USA? Jesus christ, you cant suggest the government legislates on energy efficiency without being labelled a communist. You are aware that your government legislates on minimum safety / health/ energy standards on a whole ton of products right?
You realise you cant build schools with asbestos in the walls anymore right? but why not? Hey, lets just leave it to the free market right. And what about drugs? thats just some evil commie pinko legisltaion right there. lets legalise heroin and let the free market decide if it a good product or not right? And weapons? I dont see why some pinko commie hippie should prevent me buying my own apache gunship helicopter to hunt deer with right? etc etc etc
get some perspective. The govt taxing or legislating so that people make purchasing choices that benefit the environment is NOT communism, in fact its a big part of what government does. Do you think the establishment of national parks was some evil communist plot too?
calm down tiger. this isnt exactly facism or communism. The govt mandates minimum efficiency standards for automobiles (although they are patheticly low), why cant it set a similar standard for lightbulbs, at a level which rules out incandecents?
Whether you like it or not, the status quo is not working well. people are *not* switching.
you would rather build nuclear power stations than swap a lightbulb? jeez. I know some geeks are lazy, but seriously dude, get some perspective.
I've never ever changed one of these bulbs, in my experience they last at least 3 years, probably a lot longer. It sounds more like you have a wiring problem in your house. I know that years abck when we had some halogen bulbs, if one of them went, it would take a few others with it.
I don't understand why governments don't just ban the sale of old fashioned incandescent style bulbs, or at the very least whack a huge 1000% tax on the damn things. Does anyone know why they won't do this? I bet a few lightbulb companies are worried about declining sales when people realise the efficient ones last way longer.
Unless your worried about electricity company shares or work in an ancandescent bulb factory, its insane not to want the old style bulbs phased out immediately.
Why isnt this done?
im not 'intefering with you'. As a content creator, if you dont like the terms under which I provide entertainment, shop elsewhere and stop whining. Its like paying for a cinema ticket then complaining because you were thrown out for shouting during the movie. We all accept basic terms of behaviour when we purchase entertainment. This isnt food or shelter, nobody forces you to buy the new King Kong DVD, so if you dont like the terms of the deal, keep your money, but dont steal it and THEN whine about it. That makes no sense.
Nobody is stopping you creating your own music or films and giving them away free. go for it.
yawn. What have i done to deserve this torrent of abuse from you exactly? Dare to suggest people shgould pay for entertainment? oooh what a bastard eh?