Well maybe if you *did* own a store, and you saw one of your customers grab a grape, and know that it was you that paid for it, and you thats losing money, you'd be against it. Especially if it turns out that not only do half your customers steal some grapes, but when questioned, they dont even see why thats a problem. Grape sales down 10%, that kinda hurts your bottom line. It doesnt matter if its a mom n pop store or walmart, to rpetend its not hurting a business and losing people their jobs is just wrong.
You dont think every software and music company on earth isnt losing money to piracy? what planet are you on where people only pirate stuff from big profitable companies? I don't see the drop down box on the piratebay to select "only show torrents from highly profitable megacorps" do you? You may now resume your silly abuse.
congratulations, the most stupid comparison so far in this discussion. I dont think preventing people from taking copies of copyrighted material for their own entertainment really equates to being gassed, but then, I'm not part of the slashdot groupthink regarding copyright.
and your idea for a new busines model that allows us to continue to enjoy big budget mega-movies like Lord Of The Rings is what exactly? Methinks it will always have to involve people actually paying for entertainment.
no im not trolling, but your post and the people who modded this as flamebait shows that slashdot readers have their 'software is free man" attitude so entrenched up their own ass they cant cope with the concept of capitalism. Why not go live in North Korea? seriously, they love you people.
oh grow up. So who is the lucky indidivual who shells out the billion dollars then? you? I dont think so.
If you create something that brings benefit to a million people and costs ten million dollars to develop, whats your model? to not bother unless you find some idiot to pay 10 million so everyone else gets to be slashdot-style freeloaders? nice business model you got there.
if everyone behaved as you did, photoshop would not exist, because the huge dev costs would not be supportable. theres a word for a person who benefits from other law-abiding people who pay for stuff. freeloader.
So you should not pay for ideas any more at all then. Thats interesting. Kiss goodbye to all new pharmaceutical drugs. If someone has an idea for curing Aids, he might as well go learn plumbing by your system. Nice one.
so in that case you dont use it right? or do you just take it and say fuck the developer? do you send him the money you think its worth? I love the way pirates always claim that its not a lost sale, even when its photoshop and they use it every day.
interesting, so lemme se, you only want freeware software, freeware music, freeware movies now? Did you enkoy Lord Of The rings? as i recall, it cost quite a bit.
He is a capitalist, like msyelf. He may be charging too much for his software, but that does not justify stealing it. Maybe I'm on minimum wage and think your expertise is too expensive, or maybe I just dont give a shit and dont want to pay you, does that mean I can have your expertise for free please? I might also use up some of your bandwidth while I do it ok?
I see, but someone IS born with the right to complain if they make some furniture and you take it right? So on the one hand, the carpenter has a business model, and a salary and can feed his kids (if he makes good furniture), but the software developer does not (even if his software is wildly popular). Please explain why you hold software devs in lower esteem than a toilet cleaner, as you seem to advocate them earning less.
Great plan you got there. So who is going to make new movies, tv programs, books and vidoe games and operating systems then? Nobody, because you just removed their incentive. Go read "economics for dummies" to see how capitalism works, or admit to being a communist. Your choice. I'm not insulting you, thats communism, go look it up.
Current copyright law is too severe, but arguing that the concept is wrong just makes you look silly.
i see. are you opposed to the payment for digital content then? you would rather no new commercial software, music or games were ever produced? because without copyright, explain to me how the content producer has a business model? You can argue to limit or reorm copyright (i agree) but to say you oppose it is madness. Or anarchy/communism.
So he should abandon software development and go learn plumbing instead? Sounds like you want the information tech revolution to grind to a halt immediately. nice one. or should he work for free, while you get the benefit?
I agree, but you will find slashdot swamped with people who think they have a 'right' to take your hard work, and cloak this theft under some truly lame argument about 'information wanting to be free'. They are communists, as their actions clearly show, but they tend to get annoyed when described as such. If your believe you have a right to take anything you need, regardless of your means to pay, i cant see how your not an anarchist or a communist. Especially if its software, music , dvds or games. These arent food or shelter, rights dont come into it. Nobody is born with an inate right to enjoy all episodes of "24" for free. ho hum.
"There are many legitimate reasons to want to be completely anonymous on the Internet" And copying a King Kong DVD rip is not one of them. Its sad when people take the legitmate point about anonymity that you might need for political organisations, journalists and whistle-blowers, and just use it as an excuse to facilitate warez and music copying. And calling yourselves the 'pirate party' is just plain insane. Whats wrong with "the consumer rights' party? or do they realsie thats way too hypocritical.
The premise is nonsense. There are plenty of highbrow games. Is he really suggesting that a game like Cvilisation IV is dumbed down? Sure, there are lots of dumbed down stupid games that treat the gamer like a dork, but there are plenty of stupid dumbed down TV programs, and that doesnt invalidate stuff like "The West Wing". There are plenty of stupid movies aimed at morons, but that doesn't invalidate stuff like "Syriana" (yeah ok, insert your choice of whats highbrow here). To be honest, people writing articles like this don't help at all. I've tried making a 'highbrow' game (www.democracygame.com) that requires in-depth knowledge of politics, and is peppered with quotes from plato, ghandi et al. The game is actually quite popular and sells well, no thanks to people endlessly claiming that such games do not exist. If you didn't know about the more intellectual games, but you read this article, all it will do is discourage you from looking any further, and confirm peoples rpejudices about all games being dumbed down. grrrrrrrrr.
well said, plus the games interface will be 'consoled' to fit a tiny res TV screen, despite the fact that PC monitors are getting bigger, and most of us are running 1024 or 1280 desktops. It won't happen though, the beancounters will estimate a 7.24% revenue rise from simultaneous release, and the game will look like all games do when they are ported from a console to the PC. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Amen brother. Its especially depressing because the USA is always touted as 'the land of the free'. Its like emails that start with "this is not a scam" If you have to keep telling everyone how free you are, thats a warning sign right there. I like the USA in general, hell I even got married there, but right now, its not somewhere I'd like to live:( Whether your Republican or Democrat, you need to start fighting this slide towards an authoritarian state asap.
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keep talking, your an excellent advert for the pro-copyright side.
Well maybe if you *did* own a store, and you saw one of your customers grab a grape, and know that it was you that paid for it, and you thats losing money, you'd be against it. Especially if it turns out that not only do half your customers steal some grapes, but when questioned, they dont even see why thats a problem.
Grape sales down 10%, that kinda hurts your bottom line. It doesnt matter if its a mom n pop store or walmart, to rpetend its not hurting a business and losing people their jobs is just wrong.
You dont think every software and music company on earth isnt losing money to piracy? what planet are you on where people only pirate stuff from big profitable companies? I don't see the drop down box on the piratebay to select "only show torrents from highly profitable megacorps" do you?
You may now resume your silly abuse.
congratulations, the most stupid comparison so far in this discussion. I dont think preventing people from taking copies of copyrighted material for their own entertainment really equates to being gassed, but then, I'm not part of the slashdot groupthink regarding copyright.
and your idea for a new busines model that allows us to continue to enjoy big budget mega-movies like Lord Of The Rings is what exactly?
Methinks it will always have to involve people actually paying for entertainment.
"from someone who can ususally easily afford the loss"
My local superstore makes a fortune. Shall I go shoplifting by your argument?
yes, because everyone who suffers from copyright infringement is a highly paid executive. the employees who get laid off dont count right?
no im not trolling, but your post and the people who modded this as flamebait shows that slashdot readers have their 'software is free man" attitude so entrenched up their own ass they cant cope with the concept of capitalism. Why not go live in North Korea? seriously, they love you people.
oh grow up. So who is the lucky indidivual who shells out the billion dollars then? you? I dont think so.
If you create something that brings benefit to a million people and costs ten million dollars to develop, whats your model? to not bother unless you find some idiot to pay 10 million so everyone else gets to be slashdot-style freeloaders?
nice business model you got there.
if everyone behaved as you did, photoshop would not exist, because the huge dev costs would not be supportable. theres a word for a person who benefits from other law-abiding people who pay for stuff.
freeloader.
So you should not pay for ideas any more at all then. Thats interesting. Kiss goodbye to all new pharmaceutical drugs. If someone has an idea for curing Aids, he might as well go learn plumbing by your system. Nice one.
so in that case you dont use it right?
or do you just take it and say fuck the developer? do you send him the money you think its worth?
I love the way pirates always claim that its not a lost sale, even when its photoshop and they use it every day.
interesting, so lemme se, you only want freeware software, freeware music, freeware movies now? Did you enkoy Lord Of The rings? as i recall, it cost quite a bit.
He is a capitalist, like msyelf. He may be charging too much for his software, but that does not justify stealing it. Maybe I'm on minimum wage and think your expertise is too expensive, or maybe I just dont give a shit and dont want to pay you, does that mean I can have your expertise for free please? I might also use up some of your bandwidth while I do it ok?
I see, but someone IS born with the right to complain if they make some furniture and you take it right? So on the one hand, the carpenter has a business model, and a salary and can feed his kids (if he makes good furniture), but the software developer does not (even if his software is wildly popular). Please explain why you hold software devs in lower esteem than a toilet cleaner, as you seem to advocate them earning less.
Great plan you got there. So who is going to make new movies, tv programs, books and vidoe games and operating systems then?
Nobody, because you just removed their incentive.
Go read "economics for dummies" to see how capitalism works, or admit to being a communist. Your choice. I'm not insulting you, thats communism, go look it up.
Current copyright law is too severe, but arguing that the concept is wrong just makes you look silly.
i see. are you opposed to the payment for digital content then? you would rather no new commercial software, music or games were ever produced? because without copyright, explain to me how the content producer has a business model?
You can argue to limit or reorm copyright (i agree) but to say you oppose it is madness. Or anarchy/communism.
So he should abandon software development and go learn plumbing instead?
Sounds like you want the information tech revolution to grind to a halt immediately. nice one.
or should he work for free, while you get the benefit?
I agree, but you will find slashdot swamped with people who think they have a 'right' to take your hard work, and cloak this theft under some truly lame argument about 'information wanting to be free'. They are communists, as their actions clearly show, but they tend to get annoyed when described as such.
If your believe you have a right to take anything you need, regardless of your means to pay, i cant see how your not an anarchist or a communist. Especially if its software, music , dvds or games. These arent food or shelter, rights dont come into it. Nobody is born with an inate right to enjoy all episodes of "24" for free.
ho hum.
"There are many legitimate reasons to want to be completely anonymous on the Internet"
And copying a King Kong DVD rip is not one of them. Its sad when people take the legitmate point about anonymity that you might need for political organisations, journalists and whistle-blowers, and just use it as an excuse to facilitate warez and music copying.
And calling yourselves the 'pirate party' is just plain insane. Whats wrong with "the consumer rights' party? or do they realsie thats way too hypocritical.
Nope, this bullshit has been modded quite correctly.
The premise is nonsense. There are plenty of highbrow games. Is he really suggesting that a game like Cvilisation IV is dumbed down?
Sure, there are lots of dumbed down stupid games that treat the gamer like a dork, but there are plenty of stupid dumbed down TV programs, and that doesnt invalidate stuff like "The West Wing". There are plenty of stupid movies aimed at morons, but that doesn't invalidate stuff like "Syriana" (yeah ok, insert your choice of whats highbrow here).
To be honest, people writing articles like this don't help at all. I've tried making a 'highbrow' game (www.democracygame.com) that requires in-depth knowledge of politics, and is peppered with quotes from plato, ghandi et al. The game is actually quite popular and sells well, no thanks to people endlessly claiming that such games do not exist. If you didn't know about the more intellectual games, but you read this article, all it will do is discourage you from looking any further, and confirm peoples rpejudices about all games being dumbed down. grrrrrrrrr.
well maybe some of it comes from people who have worked on multi-format titles and seen first hand how it compromises the design.
well said, plus the games interface will be 'consoled' to fit a tiny res TV screen, despite the fact that PC monitors are getting bigger, and most of us are running 1024 or 1280 desktops.
It won't happen though, the beancounters will estimate a 7.24% revenue rise from simultaneous release, and the game will look like all games do when they are ported from a console to the PC.
Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Amen brother. Its especially depressing because the USA is always touted as 'the land of the free'. Its like emails that start with "this is not a scam" If you have to keep telling everyone how free you are, thats a warning sign right there. :(
I like the USA in general, hell I even got married there, but right now, its not somewhere I'd like to live
Whether your Republican or Democrat, you need to start fighting this slide towards an authoritarian state asap.