This is how you can get away with releasing only the ORIGINAL code, and not the Linksys mods.
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The "Program", below, refers to any such program or work, and a "work based on the Program" means either the Program or any derivative work under copyright law: that is to say, a work containing the Program or a portion of it, either verbatim or with modifications and/or translated into another language.
Think about it. They distributed the source for the "Program" as outlined above. "A work based on the Program" can refer to either the Program (the original) or the "work based on the program" - that is, the derivative. So, if you take it to always mean "The Program" or the ORIGINAL program - then you only must distribute the ORIGINAL PROGRAM and not the mods! Perfectly within the GPL.
I'll get modded down on this, but HONESTLY the GPL says this. It does not say that "The Program" means BOTH, but EITHER.
The GPL doesn't say you have to release your mods, but only a list of the changes and what dates. Have you actually read the GPL?
The other problem with the GPL is that there is conjecture and opinion throughout, not fact, as there must be in an Agreement. IANAL but I worked in the world of Contracting (as in Construction) and you must specify everything, not give opinion.
"If you develop a new program, and you want it to be of the greatest possible use to the public, the best way to achieve this is to make it free software which everyone can redistribute and change under these terms."
This is an OPINION that "the best way to achieve this." Sometimes making it of the greatest possible use to the public is to never use it. For instance, the software that drives nuclear missles. This is a deterrent. The best way to use this technology MIGHT be not to use it, not make it software which everyone can redistribute.
The first time the GPL gets tried in court it will get thrown out because it's full of opinion, and holes like I just pointed out. And remember, I'm FOR Open Source. I just think that Richard Stallman tried to force his opinions on everyone else's work. "Free" my butt. (And I know the difference between free as in beer, etc.) Here's a quote from the FSF website:
"The $5000 Deluxe Distribution includes all GNU software compiled for your choice of computing platform (micro-chip and operating system). Please contact the FSF Office if you are interested."
"Free" my butt. $5000 US is a LOT of money for a program, period, ESPECIALLY for one user.
Go Linksys. MAKE money. PROVIDE a valuable service!
The traffic IS atrocious. I just got back from a trip to Los Angeles and I LOVED it - fast traffic in LA! If you've never been to Seattle, YES, the traffic is much worse in Seattle, and the carpool lane is RARELY ever full. Maybe once a month if that.
This would be a good thing - if they do a dutch auction and not one a week. That would only be 52 a year...so a dutch auction makes more sense.
So why doesn't some journalist sign the NDA, then leak whatever they're allowed to see to several outlets, say, other journalists, who THEN can protect their source? If the Linux community got ahold of the source in question, we'd find ALL the code, and remove it BEFORE the trial got finished. Anyone think of that?
YES - eBay uses.net passport to log in. It's the only one I know of, but it DOES exist. Someone could ruin your eBay rating you worked a LONG time to get if they could get into your.net passport. Just a thought.
They don't recommend C - they recommend SCHEME - which is "an especially clean and simple dialect of LISP" - AAAAAAHHHHHH!! *runs screaming*
Ever USE LISP? We used to call it "Lots of Interesting Silly Parentheses."
Stallman is an ID10T. He doesn't think you need a GUI. He's behind the times, and tries to impose his views on everyone else. Let people use the best tool for THEIR job!
Some people NEED to use *choke* Windows. SERIOUSLY. Because they can't understand how to set up e-mail or anything. SERIOUSLY. They use AOL maybe.
Cohesiveness is a GOOD thing. Sheer stupidity because you don't want to use graphics and everyone else does is not.
Why don't you try Lycoris for your dad? e-mail me at dot.slash.penguinrenegade@spamgourmet.com and I'll help get you going.
Lycoris DOES have the ability to open MS Office Files, play games (Over 150 Windows games under TransGaming/WineX through the GamePak), and surf the Net - Mozilla, Konquerer. It's aimed more squarely at mom & pop, but does give the flexibility of the CLI ONLY if you wish! A GREAT starter Linux system.
Empathy808 - e-mail me at dot.slash.penguinrenegade@spamgourmet.com and I'll help you convert to Lycoris. That goes for anyone who wants to check out Lycoris. PLENTY of volunteers to help answer questions in the forums, too!
I'll answer any questions you might have, too, PERSONALLY.
Takes about 10-15 minutes to install Lycoris. And it gives you a solitaire game to play once you've finished entering your information and configuring hardware.
Actually it was posted not by e-mail but by me, through the slashdot postings, as it should be. And posted yesterday. It IS news because not everyone has heard of it. Did you download it?
It might not be your favorite, but have you tried getting your mom to run Debian?
If they are SO paranoid about this, why don't they put their BIOS into a package form that can't be modchipped? Solder it directly onto the motherboard, from underneath and on top. Make it with hundreds of teeny little connections that robots have a hard time with.
If they REALLY wanted their BIOS to NOT be modchipped, they would pay the extra nickel per board to make it nearly impossible to get around. End of story. Miro$oft LIKES to get items like this in the news. They LIKE having a lot of attention focused on them instead of Linux, Macintosh, or whatever.
As the old saying goes, talk good about me or talk bad about me, just talk about me.
As the former owner of several sports card shops, I can tell you that when a player is inducted into the Hall of Fame in his particular sport, his cards do not in fact go up very much. You see, he's been retired for five years, meaning he's not in the news every day like when he played. So, when he is inducted into the Hall of Fame, his cards are worth almost exactly HALF of what they were on the day he retired. Get a series of price guides out. They will back this up. But people buy cards in DROVES, and repeat the SAME mantra, "When (player's name) retires, I'm going to put little Billy through college."
I'm not making this up. Even negative publicity will HELP people most of the time. When Ronald Reagan was running for re-election, one of his opponents ran an ad detailing all the crap Reagan pulled. Reagan loved it. You see, it showed Reagan in front of an American flag, while the announcer voiced over the info. All those people who saw it with the sound muted only saw Reagan and an American flag. Better publicity than Reagan could buy.
You have GOT it. I have dropped a Panasonic 4420 six feet directly onto concrete. Back 'round 90 or maybe earlier. And it STILL WORKS TO THIS DAY.
Panasonic printers are workhorses. Panasonic dot matrix printers are STILL the choice of businesses that print on 3-part or 4-part or 5-part paper, because you can STILL READ them.
You can find instructions on how to reset a Panasonic laser cartridge on the web so it thinks it's a new cartridge. Maintenence mode IIRC. Too bad Panasonic doesn't make inkjets. If they did, the inkjet would run you about $500, would have separate cartridges for each of the six colors available, print natively at 2400 dpi, and have HUGE paper rollers made of real rubber, like seventeen of them, instead of the crap HP makes out of plastic, and they're 3/8" in diameter.
I buy Panasonic electronics when I can and have never once had a warranty issue. I research and don't buy the crap - they do put a little of it out, but the Panasonic brand is fairly unpolluted.
I would pay any amount for a REAL Panasonic inkjet. Too bad they don't make cars. We'd see a 100 mpg SUV if they did.
Doesn't anyone know that if the BSA "audits" you, you can a) Plead the 5th. You have the right not to provide incriminating evidence against yourself. This works on the IRS, and the BSA isn't more powerful than THEM. b) Wait until they come up with a subpoenae. FORCE the issue. Don't let Miro$oft/BSA get the better of you!
hmmm.... Voting as a non-citizen is a felony and will prevent you from ever holding legal status in the US. Probably not the best course of action.
Actually, with the passage of the Motor Voter Act, it is in fact LEGAL to vote even if you're not a citizen! If you have a California Driver License (not drivers or driver's but Driver is correct - read them), then you may actually vote! You don't even have to sign up! Check it out, it IS true.
The problem with Palladium lies in who exactly implements it. The easiest example is...eBay.
You can already sign in to eBay with your Miro$haft Pa$$port. Oh yeah, and you also give Miro$haft your information when you sign up for Windows XP. Credit card information is stored in your wallet. Microsoft has sold off customer information before, too. So - they FORCE use of the Microsoft Passport and Microsoft wallet.
Now if Bill Gates were smart and crafty, he'd want a fee per transaction used with the Microsoft Wallet, charged of course to the merchant. Now if he just owned PayPal, he could make a transaction fee on every credit card transaction. Or bypass credit cards altogether. Microsoft is in bed with eBay already. eBay owns PayPal. Microsoft buys out eBay, and thusly PayPal. This scenario might seem like the rant of a lunatic, but let's just keep exploring it. Remember, Microsoft has bought out and/or bankrupted THOUSANDS of companies.
Let's say eBay implements Palladium (or whatever they call it this week.) It's not about whether Palladium is insidious or not. It is about what it forces the general public to DO. If you want to sell on eBay, then you must upgrade your hardware AND your OS. This is the only way Microsoft will be able to sell large numbers of its new operating systems. We don't NEED an upgrade to XP, or for that matter 98. If this happens, you either upgrade (and are forced to submit all of your user info to Miro$haft), or lose out on your eBay account. If you earn your money from eBay exclusively, then you MUST do the "upgrade," much to your detriment.
Let's keep going with this example. In Windows 2006, the next NEXT release of said OS, they have included a new Passport feature that allows you to sign in to ANY bluetooth enabled Palladium ridden computer. Ever hear of Home Again?
It's a chip that is implanted under the skin so that pets can be identified and returned to their owners. Well, in Windows 2006, you just get one implanted, and then scan it under the chip reader that all new motherboads come with. Remember, MICROSOFT has set the standards for the new "legacy free" motherboards, NOT Intel or other board manufacturers. The link below and others at Microsoft outline the specs for getting your motherboard to be Windows compliant.
It's the mark of the beast. Use the new "Biometric XP" chip and you can log in "securely" to any Windows equipped PC!
Here I stand, the lone ranter on the corner with a sign that the end is near. If Microsoft implements it, all it takes is ONE major company like eBay to implement it. Once we've all upgraded to the new hardware, we're screwed.
Fight Palladium. Hack it. Bitch to eBay about the Microsoft Passport. Microsoft doesn't have to worry about patent infringements here. They are focused on implementation. They still implement the Microsoft tax, but now it is MANDATED that you use THEIR OS with the motherboard. Microsoft's defense - they're not forcing you to upgrade to the new Windows and motherboard - eBAY is!!
I could keep going with this scenario, but then I'd lose any ability to get additional points.
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Where does it say in the GPL that it is illegal to link? IT DOES NOT. Please show the exact wording. See my above post.
This is how you can get away with releasing only the ORIGINAL code, and not the Linksys mods.
Quote:
The "Program", below, refers to any such program or work, and a "work based on the Program" means either the Program or any derivative work under copyright law: that is to say, a work containing the Program or a portion of it, either verbatim or with modifications and/or translated into another language.
Think about it. They distributed the source for the "Program" as outlined above. "A work based on the Program" can refer to either the Program (the original) or the "work based on the program" - that is, the derivative. So, if you take it to always mean "The Program" or the ORIGINAL program - then you only must distribute the ORIGINAL PROGRAM and not the mods! Perfectly within the GPL.
I'll get modded down on this, but HONESTLY the GPL says this. It does not say that "The Program" means BOTH, but EITHER.
The GPL doesn't say you have to release your mods, but only a list of the changes and what dates. Have you actually read the GPL?
The other problem with the GPL is that there is conjecture and opinion throughout, not fact, as there must be in an Agreement. IANAL but I worked in the world of Contracting (as in Construction) and you must specify everything, not give opinion.
"If you develop a new program, and you want it to be of the greatest possible use to the public, the best way to achieve this is to make it free software which everyone can redistribute and change under these terms."
This is an OPINION that "the best way to achieve this." Sometimes making it of the greatest possible use to the public is to never use it. For instance, the software that drives nuclear missles. This is a deterrent. The best way to use this technology MIGHT be not to use it, not make it software which everyone can redistribute.
The first time the GPL gets tried in court it will get thrown out because it's full of opinion, and holes like I just pointed out. And remember, I'm FOR Open Source. I just think that Richard Stallman tried to force his opinions on everyone else's work. "Free" my butt. (And I know the difference between free as in beer, etc.) Here's a quote from the FSF website:
"The $5000 Deluxe Distribution includes all GNU software compiled for your choice of computing platform (micro-chip and operating system). Please contact the FSF Office if you are interested."
"Free" my butt. $5000 US is a LOT of money for a program, period, ESPECIALLY for one user.
Go Linksys. MAKE money. PROVIDE a valuable service!
The traffic IS atrocious. I just got back from a trip to Los Angeles and I LOVED it - fast traffic in LA! If you've never been to Seattle, YES, the traffic is much worse in Seattle, and the carpool lane is RARELY ever full. Maybe once a month if that.
This would be a good thing - if they do a dutch auction and not one a week. That would only be 52 a year...so a dutch auction makes more sense.
So why doesn't some journalist sign the NDA, then leak whatever they're allowed to see to several outlets, say, other journalists, who THEN can protect their source? If the Linux community got ahold of the source in question, we'd find ALL the code, and remove it BEFORE the trial got finished. Anyone think of that?
YES - eBay uses .net passport to log in. It's the only one I know of, but it DOES exist. Someone could ruin your eBay rating you worked a LONG time to get if they could get into your .net passport. Just a thought.
They don't recommend C - they recommend SCHEME - which is "an especially clean and simple dialect of LISP" - AAAAAAHHHHHH!! *runs screaming*
Ever USE LISP? We used to call it "Lots of Interesting Silly Parentheses."
Stallman is an ID10T. He doesn't think you need a GUI. He's behind the times, and tries to impose his views on everyone else. Let people use the best tool for THEIR job!
Some people NEED to use *choke* Windows. SERIOUSLY. Because they can't understand how to set up e-mail or anything. SERIOUSLY. They use AOL maybe.
Cohesiveness is a GOOD thing. Sheer stupidity because you don't want to use graphics and everyone else does is not.
Try it. Help your grandma put it on her system! She'll love it!
Rus - (that's also my name, same spelling!!)
Why don't you try Lycoris for your dad? e-mail me at dot.slash.penguinrenegade@spamgourmet.com and I'll help get you going.
Lycoris DOES have the ability to open MS Office Files, play games (Over 150 Windows games under TransGaming/WineX through the GamePak), and surf the Net - Mozilla, Konquerer. It's aimed more squarely at mom & pop, but does give the flexibility of the CLI ONLY if you wish! A GREAT starter Linux system.
Again, e-mail me and I'll answer anything.
Rus
Empathy808 - e-mail me at dot.slash.penguinrenegade@spamgourmet.com and I'll help you convert to Lycoris. That goes for anyone who wants to check out Lycoris. PLENTY of volunteers to help answer questions in the forums, too!
I'll answer any questions you might have, too, PERSONALLY.
Takes about 10-15 minutes to install Lycoris. And it gives you a solitaire game to play once you've finished entering your information and configuring hardware.
Amethyst. Version 1 if you will. Current release is update 2.
Next is update 3 (after the betas get stabilized), and after that, Beryl. Version 2 if you will.
Lycoris is different, but it is FUN.
Empathy808 - you can send me an e-mail at dot.slash.rus@spamgourmet.com and I'll help you get converted to Lycoris.
Actually it was posted not by e-mail but by me, through the slashdot postings, as it should be. And posted yesterday. It IS news because not everyone has heard of it. Did you download it?
It might not be your favorite, but have you tried getting your mom to run Debian?
it could even be AN exclusive...
C'mon - you're giving us geeks a bad name by using poor grammar in your headlines!
Been done.
BLUETOOTH.
If they are SO paranoid about this, why don't they put their BIOS into a package form that can't be modchipped? Solder it directly onto the motherboard, from underneath and on top. Make it with hundreds of teeny little connections that robots have a hard time with.
If they REALLY wanted their BIOS to NOT be modchipped, they would pay the extra nickel per board to make it nearly impossible to get around. End of story. Miro$oft LIKES to get items like this in the news. They LIKE having a lot of attention focused on them instead of Linux, Macintosh, or whatever.
As the old saying goes, talk good about me or talk bad about me, just talk about me.
As the former owner of several sports card shops, I can tell you that when a player is inducted into the Hall of Fame in his particular sport, his cards do not in fact go up very much. You see, he's been retired for five years, meaning he's not in the news every day like when he played. So, when he is inducted into the Hall of Fame, his cards are worth almost exactly HALF of what they were on the day he retired. Get a series of price guides out. They will back this up. But people buy cards in DROVES, and repeat the SAME mantra, "When (player's name) retires, I'm going to put little Billy through college."
I'm not making this up. Even negative publicity will HELP people most of the time. When Ronald Reagan was running for re-election, one of his opponents ran an ad detailing all the crap Reagan pulled. Reagan loved it. You see, it showed Reagan in front of an American flag, while the announcer voiced over the info. All those people who saw it with the sound muted only saw Reagan and an American flag. Better publicity than Reagan could buy.
Miro$oft does this on PURPOSE.
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Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows '98
You have GOT it. I have dropped a Panasonic 4420 six feet directly onto concrete. Back 'round 90 or maybe earlier. And it STILL WORKS TO THIS DAY.
Panasonic printers are workhorses. Panasonic dot matrix printers are STILL the choice of businesses that print on 3-part or 4-part or 5-part paper, because you can STILL READ them.
You can find instructions on how to reset a Panasonic laser cartridge on the web so it thinks it's a new cartridge. Maintenence mode IIRC. Too bad Panasonic doesn't make inkjets. If they did, the inkjet would run you about $500, would have separate cartridges for each of the six colors available, print natively at 2400 dpi, and have HUGE paper rollers made of real rubber, like seventeen of them, instead of the crap HP makes out of plastic, and they're 3/8" in diameter.
I buy Panasonic electronics when I can and have never once had a warranty issue. I research and don't buy the crap - they do put a little of it out, but the Panasonic brand is fairly unpolluted.
I would pay any amount for a REAL Panasonic inkjet. Too bad they don't make cars. We'd see a 100 mpg SUV if they did.
Mod parent up. They missed it - it's not on the processor, it's on the CHIPSET.
One word. PALLADIUM.
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Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows '98
Keep it simple and descriptive:
technological janitors.
That's Technological Custodial Engineer to you!
Bastard Operator from hell! And his underlings, PFY (pimply faced youth) and of course, Management.
Doesn't anyone know that if the BSA "audits" you, you can a) Plead the 5th. You have the right not to provide incriminating evidence against yourself. This works on the IRS, and the BSA isn't more powerful than THEM. b) Wait until they come up with a subpoenae. FORCE the issue. Don't let Miro$oft/BSA get the better of you!
hmmm .... Voting as a non-citizen is a felony and will prevent you from ever holding legal status in the US. Probably not the best course of action.
Actually, with the passage of the Motor Voter Act, it is in fact LEGAL to vote even if you're not a citizen! If you have a California Driver License (not drivers or driver's but Driver is correct - read them), then you may actually vote! You don't even have to sign up! Check it out, it IS true.
The problem with Palladium lies in who exactly implements it. The easiest example is...eBay.
You can already sign in to eBay with your Miro$haft Pa$$port. Oh yeah, and you also give Miro$haft your information when you sign up for Windows XP. Credit card information is stored in your wallet. Microsoft has sold off customer information before, too. So - they FORCE use of the Microsoft Passport and Microsoft wallet.
Now if Bill Gates were smart and crafty, he'd want a fee per transaction used with the Microsoft Wallet, charged of course to the merchant. Now if he just owned PayPal, he could make a transaction fee on every credit card transaction. Or bypass credit cards altogether. Microsoft is in bed with eBay already. eBay owns PayPal. Microsoft buys out eBay, and thusly PayPal. This scenario might seem like the rant of a lunatic, but let's just keep exploring it. Remember, Microsoft has bought out and/or bankrupted THOUSANDS of companies.
Let's say eBay implements Palladium (or whatever they call it this week.) It's not about whether Palladium is insidious or not. It is about what it forces the general public to DO. If you want to sell on eBay, then you must upgrade your hardware AND your OS. This is the only way Microsoft will be able to sell large numbers of its new operating systems. We don't NEED an upgrade to XP, or for that matter 98. If this happens, you either upgrade (and are forced to submit all of your user info to Miro$haft), or lose out on your eBay account. If you earn your money from eBay exclusively, then you MUST do the "upgrade," much to your detriment.
Let's keep going with this example. In Windows 2006, the next NEXT release of said OS, they have included a new Passport feature that allows you to sign in to ANY bluetooth enabled Palladium ridden computer. Ever hear of Home Again?
Home Again
It's a chip that is implanted under the skin so that pets can be identified and returned to their owners. Well, in Windows 2006, you just get one implanted, and then scan it under the chip reader that all new motherboads come with. Remember, MICROSOFT has set the standards for the new "legacy free" motherboards, NOT Intel or other board manufacturers. The link below and others at Microsoft outline the specs for getting your motherboard to be Windows compliant.
Legacy Free Specs
It's the mark of the beast. Use the new "Biometric XP" chip and you can log in "securely" to any Windows equipped PC!
Here I stand, the lone ranter on the corner with a sign that the end is near. If Microsoft implements it, all it takes is ONE major company like eBay to implement it. Once we've all upgraded to the new hardware, we're screwed.
Fight Palladium. Hack it. Bitch to eBay about the Microsoft Passport. Microsoft doesn't have to worry about patent infringements here. They are focused on implementation. They still implement the Microsoft tax, but now it is MANDATED that you use THEIR OS with the motherboard. Microsoft's defense - they're not forcing you to upgrade to the new Windows and motherboard - eBAY is!!
I could keep going with this scenario, but then I'd lose any ability to get additional points.