It has nothing to do with Gateway/AmigaInc anymore so I guess the icon is wrong.
QNX has done a deal with Phase5 http://www.phase5.de ( Makers of G4 cards, Gfx cards etc for Amiga and Mac platform) to supply QNX with the PPC cards for Amigas and also for the Amirage computer, sounds like pretty cool hardware.
Amstrad had a PC that didn`t use a fan around ten years ago and they couldn`t sell it, the media didn`t beleive it didn`t need one so wrote about suspect reliability in the reveiws.
In the end Alan Sugar had them fitted with fans just to shut up the sceptics, when asked why he did this he said "I`ll paint them pink with polka dots if it makes them sell better"(probaly not his exact words but near enough).
IIRC after he said this they painted their building pink with black polka dots.
>Video stores will not stock much in the way of DVD here
My local Video Library stocks DVD for rent. Almost all the stores that sell VHS also sell DVD.
>I mean, only about 3.5 houses in 20 has a PC of any kind (I read that someplace). Only the very expensive machines come with DVD, also we all tend to use 14/15 monitors, which aren't too nice for video.
You seem to think DVD is only used on PCs, You can buy stand alone players that plug into your TV.
All three sites back up your statement about ROBBERY. However if you look at the murder rates quoted :
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cjusew96.h tm Doesn`t include any figures
http://public-policy.org/~ncpa/pi/crime/oct98a.h tml "While the U.S. murder rate in 1981 was nine times higher than England's, it has fallen here and gone up there -- resulting in the U.S. rate being only six times higher in 1995."
http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Cramer/us.ca nada.html UK murder rate " That gives a murder rate of 1.35/100,000 population. " US Murder Rate "The U.S. murder rate was 8.2/100,000 (down significantly from its peak in 1980 at 11/100,000"
No one is trying to say that there is no crime in the UK, there is, mainly theft related. Car crime nearly doubled between 85 and 92, this hardly compares with being killed. I guess it all boils down to whether you would rather be murdered or robbed/assualted etc.
>> Charlton Heston, the mouthpiece of the NRA, argued that the way to prevent Columbine like tragedies was to post armed guards in schools. What the hell does this teach children? That it's OK to bear arms, because if you abuse them you'll get shot?
> I suppose it teaches them the same thing that an armed police force and populace does.. If you decide to start killing people, someone will be there to stop you.
At what stage would it be ok for Armed teachers to shoot a child? Before they pull a gun? After X number of pupils have been Killed?
I can just imagine the outcry after a teacher blows away a child who was playing up, only to find it was a Mars Bar in his hand!!
If I remeber correctly Sony fought the case until the very end to prevent a dangerous precedent being set. Once they won the case they realised he wouldn`t ever release anything so they let him buy himself out of the deal for a very large sum of money.
Arent you the former Amiga Engineer who knew all the nitty gritty about the NG but were bound by the NDA ?
I guess this press release means you can tell all now:) as they are no longer in the hardware business.
As a user of Amiga forever I couldnt agree more with your post. Its more compatible than my A1200 was. I played Robocop for the first time in about 8 years the other day.
I have to agree with you. As an amiga user for more than ten years I probably shouldnt however, all this constant changing directions, changing leadership, changing Kernel etc etc just makes them look mickey mouse. Better to keep quiet until they actually produce something than to be written off before anthing is released.
These don't, thats the innovative thing. Still it must be the only truly innovative thing they have done.
One of the truly amazing things to come out of the DOJ case is MSloths claim that they can only innovate if there is a monopoly, and to think I thought it was competition that promotes true innovation.
This may be the case, but then why would they be hiring all these highly educated proffesionals? just to sit on their backsides? Yes we should wait for the products before we get excited, if its going to be as good as they say for the price they are saying I`ll be the first in line, if its half as good and twice the price that they say then I wont.
>Show me some product for chrissakes! How can they? most of the components do go into production until the end of the year. If they demonstrated a rough prototype with boards hanging out of the side and a half done OS that crashed frequently would that Impress you? I don`t think so.
As the PPC add on boards are almost as expensive as a budget PC I can't quite see how they can make an entire computer to this spec for as cheap as they seem to be implying.
Compared to the US it probably is. Compared to the UK it is a lot cheaper. I lived in OZ between '75 and '86 and I still find it incredible that you could talk to someone all day for 20c (at the time ).
Delphi and CBuilder have always supported MFC but the main framework is their VCL. What that last story meant was that borland products will support the most up to date MFC. In the past the MFC supplied hasn`t always been current so MS products appeared better.
>2. The IDE must let me use whatever editor I want
I think this is unlikely as their are a number of fetures that integrate the editor and the forms, for example you click on a menu item on a form the ide takes you to the relevent place in the code, I can`t see how they could implement this with a third party editor.
no one could be as bad as Commodore, except maybe a company called ESCOM };)
>It's the techs who made the Amiga great wasn`t there an easter egg in pre 1.3 Amiga OS that if you held down the mouse buttons a message was displayed "We created Amiga, Commodore f..ked it up "? Wise words indeed.
I may be a raving coNspiracy nut but this quote from Jim collas kinda backs up my twisted logic
>>From: Jim Collas Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: QNX announcement is misleading Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 06:10:33 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
....SNIP...... As for QNX, I can assume that they aren't happy that they didn't get the Amiga opportunity and they decided to confuse the issue ....SNIP......
>It's amigaOS 3.0 Came out early 90`s >"It will be a PPC"! PPC add on cards have been available for nearly two years. >a great new company I take it you have never heard of Gateway then;)
>Amiga is dead forever. Just forget it. That may be the case but look at the number of posts on the subject in the last four days 800 for three stories.
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>thing have anything to do with Amiga?
It has nothing to do with Gateway/AmigaInc anymore so I guess the icon is wrong.
QNX has done a deal with Phase5 http://www.phase5.de ( Makers of G4 cards, Gfx cards etc for Amiga and Mac platform) to supply QNX with the PPC cards for Amigas and also for the Amirage computer, sounds like pretty cool hardware.
Try this
http://www.phase5.de/homee.html
Under Amiga Poducts, last paragraph. Not much info, but an accelerator card for Amiga computers with Multi G4.
Also on their site
http://www.phase5.de/amiga/amiragee.html
Sounds like a very cool machine, just hope it doen`t turn out to be A mirage:)
Runs QNX, provides compatibility with Amiga software, should run linux PPC I guess. Dont know if you could run macOS on it though.
>No fan? Convection cooled?
Amstrad had a PC that didn`t use a fan around ten years ago and they couldn`t sell it, the media didn`t beleive it didn`t need one so wrote about suspect reliability in the reveiws.
In the end Alan Sugar had them fitted with fans just to shut up the sceptics, when asked why he did this he said "I`ll paint them pink with polka dots if it makes them sell better"(probaly not his exact words but near enough).
IIRC after he said this they painted their building pink with black polka dots.
I also live in the UK .
>Video stores will not stock much in the way of DVD here
My local Video Library stocks DVD for rent.
Almost all the stores that sell VHS also sell DVD.
>I mean, only about 3.5 houses in 20 has a PC of any kind (I read that someplace). Only the very expensive machines come with DVD, also we all tend to use 14/15 monitors, which aren't too nice for video.
You seem to think DVD is only used on PCs, You can buy stand alone players that plug into your TV.
All three sites back up your statement about ROBBERY. However if you look at the murder rates quoted :
h tm Doesn`t include any figures
h tml "While the U.S. murder rate in 1981 was nine times higher than England's, it has fallen here and gone up there -- resulting in the U.S. rate being only six times higher in 1995."
a nada.html
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cjusew96.
http://public-policy.org/~ncpa/pi/crime/oct98a.
http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Cramer/us.c
UK murder rate " That gives a murder rate of 1.35/100,000 population. "
US Murder Rate "The U.S. murder rate was 8.2/100,000 (down significantly from its peak in 1980 at 11/100,000"
No one is trying to say that there is no crime in the UK, there is, mainly theft related. Car crime nearly doubled between 85 and 92, this hardly compares with being killed.
I guess it all boils down to whether you would rather be murdered or robbed/assualted etc.
>> Charlton Heston, the mouthpiece of the NRA, argued that the way to prevent Columbine like tragedies was to post armed guards in schools. What the hell does this teach children? That it's OK to bear arms, because if you abuse them you'll get shot?
> I suppose it teaches them the same thing that an armed police force and populace does.. If you decide to start killing people, someone will be there to stop you.
At what stage would it be ok for Armed teachers to shoot a child? Before they pull a gun? After X number of pupils have been Killed?
I can just imagine the outcry after a teacher blows away a child who was playing up, only to find it was a Mars Bar in his hand!!
Do you think only US citizens read books?
I remeber this story from my younger days, as I`m sure most of the other non US readers do.
>In the film 2001:aSO I'm sure I saw a Hilton logo
I guess thats why the intro said...
...the depiction of a Hilton in 2001
If I remeber correctly Sony fought the case until the very end to prevent a dangerous precedent being set. Once they won the case they realised he wouldn`t ever release anything so they let him buy himself out of the deal for a very large sum of money.
Arent you the former Amiga Engineer who knew all the nitty gritty about the NG but were bound by the NDA ?
:) as they are no longer in the hardware business.
I guess this press release means you can tell all now
As a user of Amiga forever I couldnt agree more with your post. Its more compatible than my A1200 was. I played Robocop for the first time in about 8 years the other day.
I have to agree with you. As an amiga user for more than ten years I probably shouldnt however, all this constant changing directions, changing leadership, changing Kernel etc etc just makes them look mickey mouse. Better to keep quiet until they actually produce something than to be written off before anthing is released.
Or you could buy the Amiga Forever CD and get UAE and all the ROMs from I think 1.2 to 3.1( the online edition now comes with 1.3,3.0 and 3.1).
Didnt the U originally stand for Unusable ?
>They needed metal 'mouse pads'
These don't, thats the innovative thing. Still it must be the only truly innovative thing they have done.
One of the truly amazing things to come out of the DOJ case is MSloths claim that they can only innovate if there is a monopoly, and to think I thought it was competition that promotes true innovation.
>OS with no resource tracking, memory protection, or (built-in) virtual memory that runs on a 680x0
How could the OS have these when the 68000 didn`t have any memory management?
>More vapour, more B.S. Give it up already.
This may be the case, but then why would they be hiring all these highly educated proffesionals? just to sit on their backsides?
Yes we should wait for the products before we get excited, if its going to be as good as they say for the price they are saying I`ll be the first in line, if its half as good and twice the price that they say then I wont.
>Show me some product for chrissakes!
How can they? most of the components do go into production until the end of the year. If they demonstrated a rough prototype with boards hanging out of the side and a half done OS that crashed frequently would that Impress you? I don`t think so.
>lemmings like yourself who run out and buy a new computer,sound or video card every six week
Thats funny, the last official hardware for amiga came out in `92 this hardly qualifies as lemming behaviour.
I guess we could go out and buy a pc sound or video card but they wouldn`t fit.
Speaking of lemmings which platform was it created on ?
A Amiga
Yes, Amiga Inc is owned by Gateway (yes the cowbox people) Why bother posting if you don't even know this?
> why don't they just use x86 hardware then??
Ask them
BTW this Amirage thing has nothing to do with Amiga Inc.
>2) Didn't the company that produced Amiga, go out of business.
Yes
>3) Are these "new" guys
Never heard of Gateway then ?
As the PPC add on boards are almost as expensive as a budget PC I can't quite see how they can make an entire computer to this spec for as cheap as they seem to be implying.
>to AD it's still alot cheaper.
Compared to the US it probably is. Compared to the UK it is a lot cheaper. I lived in OZ between '75 and '86 and I still find it incredible that you could talk to someone all day for 20c (at the time ).
>become another MFC compiler?
Delphi and CBuilder have always supported MFC but the main framework is their VCL. What that last story meant was that borland products will support the most up to date MFC. In the past the MFC supplied hasn`t always been current so MS products appeared better.
>2. The IDE must let me use whatever editor I want
I think this is unlikely as their are a number of fetures that integrate the editor and the forms, for example you click on a menu item on a form the ide takes you to the relevent place in the code, I can`t see how they could implement this with a third party editor.
no one could be as bad as Commodore, except maybe a company called ESCOM };)
>It's the techs who made the Amiga great
wasn`t there an easter egg in pre 1.3 Amiga OS that if you held down the mouse buttons a message was displayed "We created Amiga, Commodore f..ked it up "?
Wise words indeed.
>What on earth is your logic behind this theory?
I may be a raving coNspiracy nut but this quote from Jim collas kinda backs up my twisted logic
>>From: Jim Collas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: QNX announcement is misleading
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 06:10:33 GMT
Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
....SNIP......
As for QNX, I can assume that they aren't happy that they didn't get the Amiga opportunity and they decided to confuse the issue
....SNIP......
)8-P
>It's amigaOS 3.0 ;)
Came out early 90`s
>"It will be a PPC"!
PPC add on cards have been available for nearly two years.
>a great new company
I take it you have never heard of Gateway then
>Amiga is dead forever. Just forget it.
That may be the case but look at the number of posts on the subject in the last four days 800 for three stories.