While I understand that the customers want info about invalid clicks, in this case I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. Security through secrecy has always been a hot topic, but in some cases it definitely has an advantage. Customers will not be pleased if click fraud increases as a result of this, and Google will possibly have to move faster and with more resources to shore up their fraud detection (not too bad for customers but could be bad for Google with the bad PR, etc).
While that possibility did occur to me, there is also these issues: Giving the customer recent data, preferably not more than 48 hours old. Most people will expect near real time statistics from Google on this one. Using multiple accounts to test many methods, thus allowing many attacks to be checked while making any delay between attack/statistics less of an issue.
Now this seems like a damn stupid idea to me. Say I'm trying to discover methods to click fraud my competitors or perhaps come up with automated software to sell. I can now use a dummy account with Google using search terms no one would hit and test different methods of fraud while getting feedback on which methods trip their detection.
Sorry, I should have thrown in a 'the' as in "we're OK with no results but the knowledge gained". Since it was my thought I didn't notice that it could be misread.
While I've read about the huge shift to commercial/applied science, it seems to me a lot of pure research is still of the "let's find out what we can and damn the applications" variety. While the only things that come immediately to mind are cosmology and some of the "research" branches of physics, I'm sure there is more out there that doesn't demand a consumer product as the end result. I'd like to see a resurgence of long term projects with big money backing and no worries about being canned like what happened in 1993 to the huge super-collider in Texas. Who knows what may have come out of that, perhaps more advanced/larger ones have been brought online in the meantime, but we could have had at least some of those results sooner. Are there even any agencies (Arthur Vining Davis Foundation, DOE, etc) who are willing to fund a "we're OK with no results but knowledge gained" project in what is currently considered an applied science field?
I've been doing this both alone and with my buddy Jack for a few years now, using Asian films as the base. First I pulled off a 6 hour marathon turning We're Going to Eat You! into We're Going to Eat Jack for his birthday. Here's a short clip from some facially deformed man originally singing some fairly normal song, with timecodes, etc removed:
A fucking bell?
It's part of the birthday party...
This is Jack's Birthday song
with blood and gore all night long
and drink until you all fall down
Watch me wave my penis wand
with five speeds it goes on and on
Bang it on my gong and stick it up my crack
Once you've seen this movie there is no going back
From a tape deformed man, Happy Birthday Jack!
Solo!
Next up was Battle Royale, which we both worked on for another friend's birthday, turning it into a kill or be killed game show. Those of you familiar with this movie will recognize the early section where they are watching the explanation video.
Time to watch the video.
Don't fall asleep now... bitches.
The Idiots Guide to Fight
a Battle Royale!
With Dayna Charlton! By Nintendo.
WHASSUP, Japan Finals Team!!
SUP, Ho!
The survivor of this round,
will advance to the World BR Championship!
Good luck!
-Fuck you!
This Arena has a few new rules,
that I'll be explaining to you!
Pay attention, maggots.
What you don't know can kill you!!!
Japan's Arena is a deserted island
that looks like this!
lt's about 10 miles around, fully equipped with cameras,
and the Hell-o-Chopper will be circiling the arena!!
l said no whispering!
All right, move, move.
What did I say? Huh?
Don't fuck around.
Girls #18 Chatty Cathy Dead
41 To Go.
Shaniqua!
Asshole!
-Benito!
Benito!
Shit!
OK, back to the video!
The Arena's divided
into many Zones.
Your host will inform you about which...
4 times a day!...Zones the audience has selected
to become DOOM ZONES
lf you're in those DOOM ZONES,
you should leave quickly......because DOOM is Fucking Nigh...
OK, about the necklaces
you're wearing.
They're 100% waterproof
and shockproof......and totally mooseproof!
lt monitors your pulse,
informing us......of your location and movements.
So if you linger in a DOOM ZONE......or cause trouble, we can identify you,
and transmit radio waves......And blow your fucking head up! BOOM!!!
Fucking Crazy!!!
lf you try to rip it off, it explodes
too, and your pitiful friends will cry.
We figured that trying to redo an entire audio track would be too time consuming, have to replace all sound effects and everything. This method works much better since none of us speak anything but English anyways. We just started on Godzilla: Final Wars a month ago, and have started turning it into some kind of religious zealot war. These things have a life of their own, we never know how the story is going to turn out.
While the value to other industries may be higher, and therefore those industries would win in a bidding war, wouldn't an even larger supply of hemp mean more industries would have a shot at getting some as well as driving down prices? Also rising costs of non-renewable might make even "expensive bid" hemp a cheaper alternative. Frankly I don't know, just throwing out some thoughts. Thanks for the correction about Methanol/Ethanol, I'm a computer hacker with little knowledge of chemicals. Jonah HEX
While the sources are questionable to you, the facts are real. Hemp grows like weeds, and you can get 3 to 4 crops out of a field with no nitrogen depletion of the soil. It's the most efficient biomass material, and can replace many industrial materials for paper, construction, petrochem, food, clothing, etc. Jonah HEX
I really have to put in a plug for hemp (biomass). I'll not insult you with my IIRC facts, since I can so easily insult you with a quick google search for methane hemp. I'll tell you what I've personally seen though, a field of 7 foot Canadian Hemp (on the road to Blenheim from Rondeau Provincial Park) growing so thickly you couldn't force yourself 6 inches into them. All long stems just perfect for industrial use and not a damn thing even close to smokable. Now on with the mini cut and paste, see "more" links for the rest.
more This one has a tons of facts covering replacing various industrial materials, historical uses, etc.
* Farming 6% of the continental U.S. acreage with biomass crops (Hemp) would provide all of America's Energy needs.
* Biomass can be converted into methane, methanol, or gasoline (which could eliminate our ties with the Middle East) at a cost comparable to petroleum and hemp is much better for the environment.
* Hemp fuel burns clean. Petroleum causes acid rain due to sulfur pollution. * One acre of hemp can produce as much usable fiber as 4 acres of trees or two acres of cotton.
* Trees cut down take 50-500 years to grow, while hemp can be cultivated in as little as 100 days and can yield 4 times more paper over a 20 year period.
more Much shorter page but some others on the site are good reading.
There are many interesting facts about hemp such as Van Gogh and Rembrandt painting on hemp canvasses, and also painting with hemp paints. Benjamin Franklin used hemp in the first paper mill, and Henry Ford thought methane, not gasoline, should be used to fuel cars. Biomass can be converted to methane (ethanol) at a fraction of the costs of oil, coal, or nuclear energy. (Imagine world politics if oil was off the table?) Wretchedly, the world swathed its destructive path, cutting down trees for paper, when hemp could have been harvested every three or four months, and, by using petro-chemicals instead of methane, at untold costs to our planet.
Actually I'm talking about my experience at the time GTA was first released. Of course it was pretty damn good for the day, but the control system really sucked IMHO, see my posts above. I'm 35 now, started my puter life on a Trash-80, ran the elite Xenogenesis BBS in 313 using TAG on a 286 originally then Obv/2 on a 486. To tell the truth I was always more impressed with another DMA classic: Lemmings!
Memory constraints can be overcome, even in that day and age, however that section of my comment was mostly tongue in cheek. The article goes on about how they wanted to make a living city, however the gameplay really never felt that way due to the respawn action.
As for keyboard control, trying to walk in the original GTA felt to me like I was trapped on a square grid, I could never get turned the right way at the right time. Of course I wouldn't have used the mouse, any driving game I've ever tried which supports mouse steering gets it turned off ASAP. I can recall many top-down view games that had excellent keyboard control without feeling like I was using something with less control than an original Pong analog controller. Even some of the early flight games had great keyboard control, I played F-117A Stealth Fighter with keyboard only and kicked the shit out of my joystick using friends. Hell I still prefer keyboard control, I own neither a joystick or gamepad to this day.
Driving from the top-down perspective drove me crazy with the first GTA, and trying to walk around using the keyboard made me want to ignore the game and just kill all those virtual people. I can't imagine how many times I was killed while walking for a mission, for me it totally overshadowed the "living city" aspect they go on about in the article. Hell I don't even remember that I noticed it was "living" at all, since like most GTA games then and since you merely have to move out of the zone you're in and back into it to find everything "reset"; no crashed cars, dead bodies, etc. Where the hell are all the tow trucks, EMT's, and coroner's that mysteriously clean up behind me? Why can't I kill them too so the wreckage stays? Do I just need to install a "decal limit" hack?;) Jonah HEX
Blackthorne was an excellent game, almost as fun as Magic Pockets by Bitmap Brothers. Here's a little snip from wikipedia on my favorite part:
One of the game's characteristic elements quoted to this day is Blackthorne's ability to fire in the opposite direction without turning around. This subtle element added a lot of attitude and edge to the character. It was highly unnecessary to do, but people did it nonetheless. It also featured an innovative device called the levitator, which looked like a 'pizza slice'. It allowed Blackthorne to 'levitate' to heights normally unreachable.
Man it was great to sling that shotgun behind you and blow someone away, especially the "prisoners" you were supposed to be releasing. One of the first games I can recall that had idle animations, he'd polish his sunglasses and load his shotgun IIRC. Jonah HEX
I'm still looking for a way to monitor all my favorite software for updates and possibly even download/install them automagically. Sure some programs have Internet updating capability, but I want an all in one app! Every time I want to make a new install CD that puts all my apps on for me I spend hours going through bookmarks getting the latest versions. Some combination of RSS feed reader and web page scraper is prob what is needed, but with the ability to download files. Hell I've been thinking of writing a basic one in AutoIT3 but don't really have the time to invest in doing a new project from scratch. I spend more time updating software than I do diagnosing or fixing problems.
Ignore Me, I totally missed the missing -N from the first filename. Let me rephrase my warning: thegeekery doesn't have DSL-N and I'm downloading the wrong file.;) Jonah Hex
The only mirror showing file dsl-3.0.1.iso 20-Jun-2006 is http://dsl.thegeekery.com/current, all the rest, including ibiblio, only have dsl-n-0.1RC1.iso 01-May-2006.
I've got 9+ hours remaining for this 50M file, someone please tell me there is a torrent.
Used to use Smoothwall, switched to Clarkconnect several years ago and never looked back. It has a standalone install option that will give you all the server apps you'll likely need. I copied the list of modules from their site to give ya a quick overview. - Jonah Hex Software Updater cc-apt Web Site Reports cc-awstats Backup/Restore System Settings cc-backuprestore Backup cc-bacula Bandwidth Manager cc-bandwidth Caller ID cc-callerid Console Tool cc-console Print Server cc-cups Content Filter cc-dansguardian Caching DNS Server cc-dnsmasq Mail Server - POP and IMAP cc-dovecot Maildrop cc-fetchmail Gateway Firewall Tools cc-firewall-advanced Photo Gallery cc-gallery Web Server cc-httpd VPN - IPsec cc-ipsec System Statistics cc-mrtg Database Server - MySQL cc-mysql Network Tools cc-nettools PHP cc-php Mail Server - SMTP cc-postfix Mail Server Log Analyzer cc-postfix-report VPN - PPTPd cc-pptpd Banner Ad and Pop-up Filter cc-privoxy FTP Server cc-proftpd Windows File Server cc-samba Web Proxy Reports cc-sarg Intrusion Detection cc-snort Intrusion Detection Reports cc-snort-report Antispam Quarantine Tool cc-spamassassin-filter Web Proxy cc-squid Webmail cc-squirrelmail System Status cc-status Wireless cc-wireless Webmin Software webmin System Watcher cc-syswatch
Check out http://www.msfn.org/, the "home" of nLite and many other projects. Personally I use nLite, WPI (Windows Post Installer), BTS Driverpacks, and AutoIT3. I have done both Image/Ghost style for multiple PCs and scripted installations, images are too hard to update on a regular basis, I much prefer scripted installs.
We've been reading about them in SciFi/Cyberpunk stories for years, so where the hell are our IAs (Intelligent Agents)? Especially useful for those of us who's brains are skewed towards the Asperger Syndrome side of things, I would love a cyber personal secretary. Now I'm deciding between Rainlendar and Google Calendar for keeping my girl and I apprised of what our schedule and to-do lists are, and of course neither come close to the ideal IA. Perhaps Google will combine all their offerings into Google Desktop/Talk and add my dream IA.
... Yes Google, I am available to spend my 20% on this project, just hire me for the other 80%, I'm friggin broke.
Let's travel back to the heady first days of Ultima Online, when they had a spawn system that approximated real world birth-life-reproduction-death cycles. Unfortunately the player population couldn't FIND any mobs to fight, the spawn was too realistic and couldn't cope with the artificial nature of players screwing up their routines. Old spawn system trashed, new spawn system based on timers goes into place, problem solved.
The way things work in the real world is not nessesarily a good basis for a game. Jonah HEX
From their site: Linux* / Mac* / Windows (95, 98, ME, NT4, 2000 and XP). Using any mix of the operating systems mentioned above. RA is written in portable C++ code. Unlike the competition (they use Windows internals like GDI drivers and system hooks) we are not tied with Windows. The "*" of course leads to an "available soon" at the bottom of the page, however this proposed cross platform support is new since the last time I checked their website out (approx 2 months ago), and they have a great track record of fast releases and excellent technical basis.
Uh-huh. Sure. I mean if there's traffic, it's detectable. Might not be easy, but come on--as if their directory service has a magical packet cloaking device. Ok... could be firewalling. that's not necessarily "impossibility to detect."
Yes there's traffic, but since I already typed out a long post about the NAT traversal I'll just mention that the Master or Slave clients (they are seperate, slave is only 90k!) "phones home" to the Directory Server and then takes it's orders from it, it's not like VNC/PCAW where it's constantly listening on a port waiting for an (possibly malicious) incoming connection. (ignoring additional security layers like SSH tunnels etc) So no magic, just judicious control over where the handshake starts and how the Slave/Master gets in touch with the DS, which also has the benefit of maximum ease of NAT traversal in most common environments.
From your description of what your trying to do, I think this would fufill your requirements nicely! Check my post on TWD Industries Remote Anything w/Directory Server above, the slave can connect thru any NAT to the DS, and the Master connects to the DS to tunnel back thru to the slave. (diagram+desc) All it takes is one port forward from firewall to DS to let any slave (behind who knows what NAT/network config) automatically make itself available to Master clients. Simple enough, but it seems most other VNC products are more concerned with "one to one" rather than the "many to one" situation where you simply can't deal with reconfiguring someone's router via phone just to try and VNC them, you need a solution that works no matter what's in between them and you.
Small footprint (90 KB): a single executable file, no DLLs, no drivers. Portable so Mac, Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD versions will be available. One-click installation+configuration allowing on-demand deployments. Remotely invisible: impossibility to detect and attack Master/Slave*. Transparently reach Slave PCs behind firewalls & routers with Masters*. Auto-update Master & Slaves without interruption of service or reboot*. Non-repudiation with RSA 2048-Bit keys + AES 128-Bit session keys*. [*] Requires TWD Industries' Directory Server (DS).
The DS option offers database backup, multiple servers, and excellent NAT traversal and security. Controlling a slave is pretty much comparable to working with other VNC products, lots of options to speed things up, plus the configurability of the slave client is really full featured with all possible User Policy options an Admin could dream of.
You've got to be joking, Fox are the idiots who are responsible for the legal view that there is no law preventing News Broadcasters from deliberately distorting the news it broadcasts! From the Judge's decision: We agree with WTVT that
the FCC's policy against the intentional falsification of the news - which the FCC has
called its "news distortion policy" - does not qualify as the required "law, rule, or
regulation" under section 448.102.
Check out the other side of the story at thier website, I'm not telling you it's all the gospel truth but since we all have to believe in something (if only the shared fantasy we call reality) I choose, evaluate, hypothesize, ponder, discard, repair, and repeat that Fox fucking sucks.
Here you will find behind-the-scenes details about how a large share of America's milk supply has quietly become adulterated with the effects of a synthetic hormone (bovine growth hormone, or BGH) secretly injected into cows... and how pressure from the hormone maker Monsanto led Fox TV to fire two of its award-winning reporters and sweep under the rug much of what they discovered but were never allowed to broadcast.
After a five-week trial and six hours of deliberation which ended August 18, 2000, a Florida state court jury unanimously determined that Fox "acted intentionally and deliberately to falsify or distort the plaintiffs' news reporting on BGH." In that decision, the jury also found that Jane's threat to blow the whistle on Fox's misconduct to the FCC was the sole reason for the termination... and the jury awarded $425,000 in damages which makes her eligible to apply for reimbursement for all court costs, expenses and legal fees.
Fox appealed and prevailed February 14, 2003 when an appeals court issued a ruling reversing the jury, accepting a defense argument that had been rejected by three other judges on at least six separate occasions. CLICK HERE for more details on latest ruling. CLICK HERE to view how Fox13 reported the ruling.
The whistle-blowing journalists, twice refused Fox offers of big-money deals to keep quiet about what they knew, filed their landmark lawsuit April 2, 1998 and survived three Fox efforts to have their case summarily dismissed. It is the first time journalists have used a whistleblower law to seek a legal remedy for being fired by for refusing to distort the news. Steve and Jane are now considering an appeal to the Florida state Supreme Court.
Prediction: Every woman who posts to this thread gets their personal URL slashdotted.
Jonah HEX
While I understand that the customers want info about invalid clicks, in this case I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. Security through secrecy has always been a hot topic, but in some cases it definitely has an advantage. Customers will not be pleased if click fraud increases as a result of this, and Google will possibly have to move faster and with more resources to shore up their fraud detection (not too bad for customers but could be bad for Google with the bad PR, etc).
Jonah HEX
While that possibility did occur to me, there is also these issues:
Giving the customer recent data, preferably not more than 48 hours old. Most people will expect near real time statistics from Google on this one.
Using multiple accounts to test many methods, thus allowing many attacks to be checked while making any delay between attack/statistics less of an issue.
Jonah HEX
Now this seems like a damn stupid idea to me. Say I'm trying to discover methods to click fraud my competitors or perhaps come up with automated software to sell. I can now use a dummy account with Google using search terms no one would hit and test different methods of fraud while getting feedback on which methods trip their detection.
Jonah HEX
Sorry, I should have thrown in a 'the' as in "we're OK with no results but the knowledge gained". Since it was my thought I didn't notice that it could be misread.
Jonah HEX
While I've read about the huge shift to commercial/applied science, it seems to me a lot of pure research is still of the "let's find out what we can and damn the applications" variety. While the only things that come immediately to mind are cosmology and some of the "research" branches of physics, I'm sure there is more out there that doesn't demand a consumer product as the end result. I'd like to see a resurgence of long term projects with big money backing and no worries about being canned like what happened in 1993 to the huge super-collider in Texas. Who knows what may have come out of that, perhaps more advanced/larger ones have been brought online in the meantime, but we could have had at least some of those results sooner. Are there even any agencies (Arthur Vining Davis Foundation, DOE, etc) who are willing to fund a "we're OK with no results but knowledge gained" project in what is currently considered an applied science field?
Jonah HEX
Jonah HEX
While the value to other industries may be higher, and therefore those industries would win in a bidding war, wouldn't an even larger supply of hemp mean more industries would have a shot at getting some as well as driving down prices? Also rising costs of non-renewable might make even "expensive bid" hemp a cheaper alternative. Frankly I don't know, just throwing out some thoughts. Thanks for the correction about Methanol/Ethanol, I'm a computer hacker with little knowledge of chemicals.
Jonah HEX
While the sources are questionable to you, the facts are real. Hemp grows like weeds, and you can get 3 to 4 crops out of a field with no nitrogen depletion of the soil. It's the most efficient biomass material, and can replace many industrial materials for paper, construction, petrochem, food, clothing, etc.
Jonah HEX
more This one has a tons of facts covering replacing various industrial materials, historical uses, etc.
more Much shorter page but some others on the site are good reading.Jonah HEX
Actually I'm talking about my experience at the time GTA was first released. Of course it was pretty damn good for the day, but the control system really sucked IMHO, see my posts above. I'm 35 now, started my puter life on a Trash-80, ran the elite Xenogenesis BBS in 313 using TAG on a 286 originally then Obv/2 on a 486. To tell the truth I was always more impressed with another DMA classic: Lemmings!
Jonah HEX
Memory constraints can be overcome, even in that day and age, however that section of my comment was mostly tongue in cheek. The article goes on about how they wanted to make a living city, however the gameplay really never felt that way due to the respawn action.
As for keyboard control, trying to walk in the original GTA felt to me like I was trapped on a square grid, I could never get turned the right way at the right time. Of course I wouldn't have used the mouse, any driving game I've ever tried which supports mouse steering gets it turned off ASAP. I can recall many top-down view games that had excellent keyboard control without feeling like I was using something with less control than an original Pong analog controller. Even some of the early flight games had great keyboard control, I played F-117A Stealth Fighter with keyboard only and kicked the shit out of my joystick using friends. Hell I still prefer keyboard control, I own neither a joystick or gamepad to this day.
Jonah HEX
Driving from the top-down perspective drove me crazy with the first GTA, and trying to walk around using the keyboard made me want to ignore the game and just kill all those virtual people. I can't imagine how many times I was killed while walking for a mission, for me it totally overshadowed the "living city" aspect they go on about in the article. Hell I don't even remember that I noticed it was "living" at all, since like most GTA games then and since you merely have to move out of the zone you're in and back into it to find everything "reset"; no crashed cars, dead bodies, etc. Where the hell are all the tow trucks, EMT's, and coroner's that mysteriously clean up behind me? Why can't I kill them too so the wreckage stays? Do I just need to install a "decal limit" hack? ;)
Jonah HEX
Man it was great to sling that shotgun behind you and blow someone away, especially the "prisoners" you were supposed to be releasing. One of the first games I can recall that had idle animations, he'd polish his sunglasses and load his shotgun IIRC.
Jonah HEX
I'm still looking for a way to monitor all my favorite software for updates and possibly even download/install them automagically. Sure some programs have Internet updating capability, but I want an all in one app! Every time I want to make a new install CD that puts all my apps on for me I spend hours going through bookmarks getting the latest versions. Some combination of RSS feed reader and web page scraper is prob what is needed, but with the ability to download files. Hell I've been thinking of writing a basic one in AutoIT3 but don't really have the time to invest in doing a new project from scratch. I spend more time updating software than I do diagnosing or fixing problems.
Jonah HEX
Ignore Me, I totally missed the missing -N from the first filename. Let me rephrase my warning: thegeekery doesn't have DSL-N and I'm downloading the wrong file. ;)
Jonah Hex
The only mirror showing file dsl-3.0.1.iso 20-Jun-2006 is http://dsl.thegeekery.com/current, all the rest, including ibiblio, only have dsl-n-0.1RC1.iso 01-May-2006.
I've got 9+ hours remaining for this 50M file, someone please tell me there is a torrent.
Jonah Hex
Used to use Smoothwall, switched to Clarkconnect several years ago and never looked back. It has a standalone install option that will give you all the server apps you'll likely need. I copied the list of modules from their site to give ya a quick overview. - Jonah Hex
Software Updater cc-apt
Web Site Reports cc-awstats
Backup/Restore System Settings cc-backuprestore
Backup cc-bacula
Bandwidth Manager cc-bandwidth
Caller ID cc-callerid
Console Tool cc-console
Print Server cc-cups
Content Filter cc-dansguardian
Caching DNS Server cc-dnsmasq
Mail Server - POP and IMAP cc-dovecot
Maildrop cc-fetchmail
Gateway Firewall Tools cc-firewall-advanced
Photo Gallery cc-gallery
Web Server cc-httpd
VPN - IPsec cc-ipsec
System Statistics cc-mrtg
Database Server - MySQL cc-mysql
Network Tools cc-nettools
PHP cc-php
Mail Server - SMTP cc-postfix
Mail Server Log Analyzer cc-postfix-report
VPN - PPTPd cc-pptpd
Banner Ad and Pop-up Filter cc-privoxy
FTP Server cc-proftpd
Windows File Server cc-samba
Web Proxy Reports cc-sarg
Intrusion Detection cc-snort
Intrusion Detection Reports cc-snort-report
Antispam Quarantine Tool cc-spamassassin-filter
Web Proxy cc-squid
Webmail cc-squirrelmail
System Status cc-status
Wireless cc-wireless
Webmin Software webmin
System Watcher cc-syswatch
Check out http://www.msfn.org/, the "home" of nLite and many other projects. Personally I use nLite, WPI (Windows Post Installer), BTS Driverpacks, and AutoIT3. I have done both Image/Ghost style for multiple PCs and scripted installations, images are too hard to update on a regular basis, I much prefer scripted installs.
HEX
We've been reading about them in SciFi/Cyberpunk stories for years, so where the hell are our IAs (Intelligent Agents)? Especially useful for those of us who's brains are skewed towards the Asperger Syndrome side of things, I would love a cyber personal secretary. Now I'm deciding between Rainlendar and Google Calendar for keeping my girl and I apprised of what our schedule and to-do lists are, and of course neither come close to the ideal IA. Perhaps Google will combine all their offerings into Google Desktop/Talk and add my dream IA.
... Yes Google, I am available to spend my 20% on this project, just hire me for the other 80%, I'm friggin broke.
Let's travel back to the heady first days of Ultima Online, when they had a spawn system that approximated real world birth-life-reproduction-death cycles. Unfortunately the player population couldn't FIND any mobs to fight, the spawn was too realistic and couldn't cope with the artificial nature of players screwing up their routines. Old spawn system trashed, new spawn system based on timers goes into place, problem solved.
The way things work in the real world is not nessesarily a good basis for a game.
Jonah HEX
Jonah Hex
From your description of what your trying to do, I think this would fufill your requirements nicely! Check my post on TWD Industries Remote Anything w/Directory Server above, the slave can connect thru any NAT to the DS, and the Master connects to the DS to tunnel back thru to the slave. (diagram+desc) All it takes is one port forward from firewall to DS to let any slave (behind who knows what NAT/network config) automatically make itself available to Master clients. Simple enough, but it seems most other VNC products are more concerned with "one to one" rather than the "many to one" situation where you simply can't deal with reconfiguring someone's router via phone just to try and VNC them, you need a solution that works no matter what's in between them and you.
Jonah Hex
Jonah Hex
Check out the other side of the story at thier website, I'm not telling you it's all the gospel truth but since we all have to believe in something (if only the shared fantasy we call reality) I choose, evaluate, hypothesize, ponder, discard, repair, and repeat that Fox fucking sucks.Jonah Hex