Negative.
They "know" things are moving away since 13.7 billion years ago, because the things that they can see, which are located at 13.7 billion light-years away all seem to be moving away from us.
What you see of things located at 13.7 billion light years away is the light they emited 13.7 billion years ago, and as such it is exactly as if you were looking at the past.
You are looking at the past when you check the time on your wristwatch.
Very interesting link. Thx!
It's hard to break the innital resistance towards non-Relativity-based cosmology, without falling into the crackpot theory/pseudoscience realm.
Following the latest trend of ridiculous referentials, how about:
. football fields of dollars
. highway lanes of dollars
. sand truckloads of dollars
. beer kegs of dollars
. stolen high explosive crates of dollars
1. Join the Army
2. Acquire assault rifle
3. Shoot people who are terrorizing and holding hostage civilians in their own city
4. Put down rifle, assist in peacekeeping, reestablishing infrastructure, helping to rebuild
5. Ask "Are you happier?"
You know what? Maybe so. The problem is the soldier is taking step 5 before step 4. I have nothing agaisnt the soldiers. Soldiers are amoral tools - the responsibility is on the one's giving the orders. If he is ordered to kill, he kills. If he's ordered to do someting else, he does something else.
But anyway, back to GI Joe's poll: are you really so naive as to think that anyone with a drop of Middle-Eastern blood would give a straight answer to a rifle-armed western thug?
You seem to have felt for the common fallacy that if it isn't in the US Constitution, then it isn't your right.
The US Constitution was created to limit the powers of the State, not to guarantee the citizen's rights. The citizen's rights are taken for granted, and assumed un-revocable.
So you are finally coming out of your biblic innuendo-ridden argumentation, and bringing your Ark theories to bright daylight. Good for you.
But here's a newsflash: grow the fuck up. Those are stories made for peasants, goat shepherds and small children, from the time when 'thunder' = 'angry god'. Thos stories aren`t even original, as much as they're a copy from older, even more primitive stories.
Seriously, what the fuck would a society that could barely read/write know about Global floods?
Take your holy books for what they are good for: behavioral guidelines for a (somewhaat) civilized society. Anything else is fiction.
Besides, Lynn is enthusiastic about antimatter because he believes it could propel futuristic space rockets.
"I think," he said, "we need to get off this planet, because I'm afraid we're going to destroy it."
I don't know about you, but I almost choked with my coffee...
Right below the article there's small note explainning why it was a remarkable observation:
"is by far the closest ever observed astrometrically." The distinction is important, because the title of "closest ever observed" probably belongs to the well documented Great Daylight Fireball of 1972. On August 10th many witnesses, including a meteor expert, saw and photographed an object of about 2004 FU162's size fly through Earth's atmosphere, traveling from south to north along the Rocky Mountains of the U.S. From military satellite data it was later determined that the object passed 58 miles (93 km.) above a point in Montana during its journey. Gary Kronk's account of this event and subsequent investigations is great reading.
I call bullshit on the whole US education issue. The NASA engineers that put a man on the moon were not a random cross section of the general US populace. The engineers at PARC were not a gaggle of people picked randomly from the general US population. The scientists that developed the LASER, RADAR, every lab coat wearing nerd at JPL and The AeroSpace Corporation in El Segundo CA (the guys that actually did the work for Mercury and Gemini and GPS) - NONE of those guys were or are representative of the 'average' American High School student.
Hey congrats, you just made a point that the US education system of the 1930's rocks.
"GNU/Linux is proof that if freedom only requires hard work, people will work for freedom - now the proprietary world realises that freedom must be made either illegal or obsolete."
Slashdot Mirror
Negative.
They "know" things are moving away since 13.7 billion years ago, because the things that they can see, which are located at 13.7 billion light-years away all seem to be moving away from us.
What you see of things located at 13.7 billion light years away is the light they emited 13.7 billion years ago, and as such it is exactly as if you were looking at the past.
You are looking at the past when you check the time on your wristwatch.
Very interesting link. Thx!
It's hard to break the innital resistance towards non-Relativity-based cosmology, without falling into the crackpot theory/pseudoscience realm.
From Family Guy:
Lois: I guarantee you a man made that commercial.
Peter: Of course a man made it. It's a commercial Lois, not a delicious thanksgiving dinner.
Who needs all the CG in the world when they can't affix an extra head on an actor?
I'm laughing out loud here, and the entire office just stopped to listen.
"America will always do the right thing, once it has exhausted all the alternatives."
- Winston Churchill
It's just a big, internal combustion powered, alien base. Or maybe the exhaust from their giant alien steam sauna.
In any case, I for one welcome our new venting Kuiper overlords.
Amen brother!
Following the latest trend of ridiculous referentials, how about:
. football fields of dollars
. highway lanes of dollars
. sand truckloads of dollars
. beer kegs of dollars
. stolen high explosive crates of dollars
I think you're on to something here!
Sry to burst your bubble, but this is slashdot, and nobody is on to anything here...
It's not going downhill towards the Sun that costs too much. It's going uphill from Earth that makes it impraticable.
1. Join the Army
2. Acquire assault rifle
3. Shoot people who are terrorizing and holding hostage civilians in their own city
4. Put down rifle, assist in peacekeeping, reestablishing infrastructure, helping to rebuild
5. Ask "Are you happier?"
You know what? Maybe so. The problem is the soldier is taking step 5 before step 4. I have nothing agaisnt the soldiers. Soldiers are amoral tools - the responsibility is on the one's giving the orders. If he is ordered to kill, he kills. If he's ordered to do someting else, he does something else.
But anyway, back to GI Joe's poll: are you really so naive as to think that anyone with a drop of Middle-Eastern blood would give a straight answer to a rifle-armed western thug?
1. Join the Army. Acquire assault rifle. 2. Point said assault rifle to Iraqi and ask: "Are you happy?" 3. ??? 4. Profit.
You seem to have felt for the common fallacy that if it isn't in the US Constitution, then it isn't your right. The US Constitution was created to limit the powers of the State, not to guarantee the citizen's rights. The citizen's rights are taken for granted, and assumed un-revocable.
So you are finally coming out of your biblic innuendo-ridden argumentation, and bringing your Ark theories to bright daylight. Good for you. But here's a newsflash: grow the fuck up. Those are stories made for peasants, goat shepherds and small children, from the time when 'thunder' = 'angry god'. Thos stories aren`t even original, as much as they're a copy from older, even more primitive stories. Seriously, what the fuck would a society that could barely read/write know about Global floods? Take your holy books for what they are good for: behavioral guidelines for a (somewhaat) civilized society. Anything else is fiction.
noobs.. had they used IDDQD they wouldn`t even be on trial right now.
I still remember the good days when we didn't have computer games, and thus no violence at all.
600 crackers.. I wonder how much Space Shuttle Fuel Tanks worth of destruction that means, in a yards/foreweek scale.
Besides, Lynn is enthusiastic about antimatter because he believes it could propel futuristic space rockets.
"I think," he said, "we need to get off this planet, because I'm afraid we're going to destroy it."
I don't know about you, but I almost choked with my coffee...
I think what you are looking for is "fathoms per league per foreweek".
Right below the article there's small note explainning why it was a remarkable observation:
"is by far the closest ever observed astrometrically." The distinction is important, because the title of "closest ever observed" probably belongs to the well documented Great Daylight Fireball of 1972. On August 10th many witnesses, including a meteor expert, saw and photographed an object of about 2004 FU162's size fly through Earth's atmosphere, traveling from south to north along the Rocky Mountains of the U.S. From military satellite data it was later determined that the object passed 58 miles (93 km.) above a point in Montana during its journey. Gary Kronk's account of this event and subsequent investigations is great reading.
Well, for one reason... they already know what lurks beyond.
I call bullshit on the whole US education issue. The NASA engineers that put a man on the moon were not a random cross section of the general US populace. The engineers at PARC were not a gaggle of people picked randomly from the general US population. The scientists that developed the LASER, RADAR, every lab coat wearing nerd at JPL and The AeroSpace Corporation in El Segundo CA (the guys that actually did the work for Mercury and Gemini and GPS) - NONE of those guys were or are representative of the 'average' American High School student.
Hey congrats, you just made a point that the US education system of the 1930's rocks.
Completelly offtopic, and yet so very well put.
Heya Bill, boring day at work?
"GNU/Linux is proof that if freedom only requires hard work, people will work for freedom - now the proprietary world realises that freedom must be made either illegal or obsolete."
Amen brother, well said!